/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

FUWAMOCO are /here/ and they always have been.

Still awake.

I WAS ONE OF THE MENHERAS THAT WAS WORRIED ABOUT GOLDEN WEEK AND THE FUTURE JP STREAMS.


I wrote a comment in the membership VOD (my comment wasn't really that bad) I spent the whole week stressed about it... I lost sleep over it and I wrote countless walls /here/, walls that are meaningless now, all those walls will be lost in time, like tears in rain. And... words cannot express how happy I am. I'm just so so happy that I was wrong...

This week has been absolutely terrible, not only for us, but for FWMC too. All the drama, Mococo getting sick, cancelled streams... This has been the worst week for the ruffians AND for FWMC.
I'm sorry that the worry that some of us had made things worse for FWMC, but I stand by the things I did and said. I was wrong, and I accept that, but there is a possibility that FWMC changed this week because of the feedback, we'll never know. It's a good thing either way, if the schedule was like this from the start that just means that they love their EN fans so much that they CRIED just because they thought that some JP streams in a VERY packed week would make us sad, which means that they won't really make too much JP content in the future, and if they did change it that just means that they care about us and decided to take our feedback and add some EN streams to not make us feel bad, and that is a very good sign.
In the end it doesn't matter if they changed it or if it was like this from the beginning.
THEY LOVE US. THEY REALLY REALLY CARE ABOUT US, AND IT WASN'T JUST WORDS, THEY SHOWED IT WITH THEIR ACTIONS TOO.

I won't feel bad about being wrong. Yeah, some people jumped to stupid conclusions, but at the end of the day we were honest with them, and I'm proud of that.
That's how relationships work, you HAVE to be honest, you HAVE to communicate what you think and what you feel, or the relationship will end up broken, one way or another.

I don't believe in unconditional love, and clearly neither does FWMC. Everyone has lines that don't want crossed, averyone has unspoken conditions for their "unconditional" love. In FWMC's case a lot of the ruffians would probably leave them if they fully changed the streams to JP, a lot more would drop them if they did homocollabs, and countless ruffians would abandon them if they publicly got boyfriends. You can cope saying that they'll never do it, and you are right, I honestly think that they will NEVER do any of those, but if you were to leave them if they did any of those your "unconditional" love and support would no longer be unconditional. Unconditional love doesn't really exist. It just so happens that some of us drew the line at them pandering to JPs too much and leaving the EN ruffians, so the membership announcement made us worry a lot. But that doesn't mean that we are "sisters" or "antis". We just have different values and find some things more important than you do.

I won't delete, reply to or edit my VOD comment. I was honest with them, and no one will be able make me feel bad about it.
If something bad happens in the future I'll try to be more positive and believe in them.
I love FWMC.


And FWMC if you are somehow reading this, thank you. Thank you for loving your fans so much, you are the sweetest girls that I have ever known. You deserve all the good things that have happened to you, and I hope you can fulfill all your dreams. I'll keep supporting you.

also next week we have a membership stream... didn't they say that the next member stream would be in a month or so? I don't really remember... BUT I feel like they wan't to do the member stream as an excuse to talk about the future, and I hope I'm right in this, I made several posts this week saying that the best thing they can do now is be open with us and communicate more clearly what they want

I'm so fucking happy bros

>>74668830
check out fuwawa's massive floofies pressed up against mococo

>millions of people talking all at once in both English and Japanese
>can hear Mococo twice through Fuwawas mic
>BGM that made me think it was my neighbor blasting music through the wall again
is this what they call sensory overload

Nobody is reading all that fag

>>74668900
shut up
*hides post*

Gosh, the MC stream next weekend is gonna be great.
>Moco-chan telling Fuwawa to do something
>"Ehehehe, what?"
>Tells her again
>Fuwawa fails task
>Moco-chan puts down headset and model stops moving
>Mocochan in Fuwawa's mic
>"Hereh, give me that!"
>"Eheheheheh"
>Preforms task and goes to sit back down.
You know it's gonna happen. Think of how things in the Cookies and Cream stream happened, but now they actually have to get up and go over to the other's computer.

>>74668900
Amen. It astounds me how much of this could have been avoided by swapping the
>its okay if you don't show up, there are other streamers out there
line for
>please don't be upset if you can't make all of our streams, there'll still be plenty of times to see eachother the rest of the week

Fuwawa the schedule was nice but if I don't get a like today I'm still leaving for biboo.

>>74668900
You should kill yourself. I mean that 100% sincerely and unironically. The world would be better without you.

>>74668933
You can train your ears better

>>74668900
Didn’t read. Kys.

>>74668900
this post screams autistic brazilian

>>74669031
>its okay if you don't show up, there are other streamers out there
I know this is just their self esteem talking but this line seriously bothers me.

>>74668900
They were fucking melting down when they mentioned their next member stream in the battle plan stream. I felt like it would happen sooner rather than later because it sounded like they really needed another stream just for their pleasure so they can relax and have fun

>>74669069
>>74669095
please follow your own advice

>>74668900
yeah, yeah, shut up already

>>74668900
>I love FWMC.
No you don't fag. Kill yourself.

>>74668900
>That's how relationships work
relationships also aren't usually involving such a heavy dfiference in power and distance
you're sharing them with 800k+ other people,t heir relationship with us is streamer to fan, yes we're their "boyfriends" but the power difference is far extreme its not really actually being their boyfriends

rest of your post is whatever, you're very clearly a fragile mentally ill person who has never held a proper relationship, and if you did i could easily see you being the problem in them, fuwamoco is probably the first time you've been showered in love right?

My adorable princess

>>74668900
kill yourself you waste of life

>>74669072
But I have autism...

>>74669111
That's not even the worst thing they said. I was tearing up when they said "it's ok if you hate FWMC and seeing us makes you upset. We'll be happy if you decide to come back"

>>74669141
bruh

>>74668900

>>74669239
They said something like that to my super and I wanted to die because that wasn't even something on my mind. They probably fucking hate me now

I didnt know ina was an introvert like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrMyJyaa9B8

>another Patra like
Koyori told them, Armored Core Squad will be REAL

>>74668900
>>74669141
of course

>>74669239
>>74669031

why are they so mentally ill? this goes beyond menhera, to even think or have those thoughts in your mind must be planted from somewhere
they probably read nasty posts on irrelevants on twitter or vod comments and it made them consider the possibility

>>74669102
BAU BAU

>>74669181
I'm sharing them with whoever shows up, not 800k, many of whom may not even watch them.

>>74669304
ina has a hikkikomori outfit, she is de facto introvert
although aqua is probably THE top introvert, her shyness is insane

Is it bad that I also smile whenever I hear Reine, Kaela, or Ollie too during this collab?
Also I just got to the Lui chase and I'm dying. Moco-chans strained "NNNNNNNNOOOOOOEEEEHHHH" causing Lui to laugh.

>>74668933
>can barely hear what they're saying
>can clearly hear whatever the fuck's ollie rambling about behind them
how to fix ears

>>74669141
KEK nice job editing that

>>74669391
no, i was smiling anytime i saw ina on stream or heard her from fuwamoco pov

Moco-chan hiding during the crowd part reminded me of when I was at a barbecue school gathering thing in high school and the only place I could find to hide was the doggy house, so I went in there and fell asleep.

>>74669304
Offtopic She's a huge introvert. She was streaming Monster Hunter at the same time as Biboo and they did a couple missions together without ever actually speaking. They communicated through their chats and even had some cute syncs.

>>74669391
No, is good. Is the miracle of the holobox where you like others in the family.

>>74669304
Kronie sounds really happy on that clip
Unlike her doomer side when the dumb and dumber still around

>>74669450
>the doggy house
why the fuck there's a doggy house and how the fuck do you fit in there

>>74548032

>>74668900
You're pathetic.

I just woke up and missed everything, how was it? And what's the schedule looking like?

What will you do if they touch marine boobs next week?

>>74669391
Kek timestamp for lui chase? Been at work all morning and only caught part of the main stream

>>74669554
>>74668830

>>74669526
we're all pathetic here. Have you forgotten where you are?

>>74669103
All of the brazilianGODS were supportive, even the fuzzian.

>>74669580
No no, just you faggot

Likeschizos...

>>74669580
NTA but nah, pretty sure he's more pathetic than most of us.
Fucking hell this is ridiculous.

>>74669239
The combinations of stuff they said felt horrible and probably triggered some bad memories, I suppose it goes for them too. By the time they said that my brain had almost ceased to process information and just wanted to die. Still won't edit the VOD comment though

>>74669509
Me happy now Mogoco

>>74669562
https://youtu.be/FoE7INMtxRg?t=2179
It's really funny because I thought the 'huah' from Lui was a villager at first.

>>74669301
They do hate you. Everyone does.

Why is Koyori obsessed with Fuwamoco, does she want to fuck them or something? This is not normal...

>>74669580
Fuck you. I never once doubted them and actually support them. My VOD comment is my testament.

>>74669633
Actually hurt me by the way, I'm not in a good mental spot so thanks. I should fuck off

>>74668900
>I was wrong
>*massive wall*
>But I was right!
Real growth there, champ.

>>74669301
deserved

>>74669671
She needs to learn from her genmate how to BECOME WALL

>>74669615
>just wanted to die
Nothing's stopping you. Go die

>>74669687
Good, hopefully you won't try to guilt trip them anymore, they certainly don't need insane schizo like you.

>>74668900
>This week has been absolutely terrible, not only for us, but for FWMC too
Because of you and people like you. Instead of trusting them you had a self-indulgent hissy fit based on nothing. And you still want to act like you were justified and don't even feel bad about what *you* put them through. You don't love them, you're genuinely not a fan, kys.

>>74669687
You are not alone, and you were not the only one that felt this way. Spend some time away from the hellhole to remember why you loved them in the first place.

Chances that this is a preparation for Advents 3D?

>>74669500
It was at someone's place, not the school itself. It was a big dog, and half my body was still out.

Glad I'm sometimes reading the MC text. Would have missed "TAKANE LUI USED ULTIMATE SKILL <HAWK EYE>". Heh.

>>74669687
You get so emotional and righteous that you lash out at them for trying to accomplish their dreams. Kill yourself scum

>>74668900
I'm not reading that but hopefully they really start increasing the JP solos after GW just to spite you.

>>74669141
Dossie…

>>74669822
They got me worried with the crying.i was worried about too many JP streams......

>>74669671
Seeing someone at the same company that you fought hard to join admire you, look up to you and bring up your insane hard work as the reason for their admiration must feel amazing. She's been grinding at Holo for a while now, but only now became senpai with Advent and ReGloss, right? I'm happy for her.

>>74669304
She's very fucking introverted. Basically led a hikki life, MMOs and art. She told people once she tied her hair with whatever she could find and her room sounds like its like the manga/anime hikki room filled with trash. Dunno if she got better over time, doubt it though.

>>74669924
she has gotten significantly better bro, its been years

>>74669884
Leave already faggot. I don’t care about your insecure feelings

>>74669323
They have basically been abandoned by almost everyone else over the year. By their own words they lost all their friends. Their family is across the world. They have their senpai but they'll never be able to fully understand them either

The ruffians are everything to them. And they do get antis tagging them on twitter and even in their comments (pic rel is STILL not deleted btw and probably never will be) telling them their manipulating their fans feelings and milking them
It's easy for us to say "oh these are just antis and sisters" but it's clear that their self esteem is terrible and they feel like they deserve to be hated.

>>74669789
3D or not, definitely could be anniversary related. They had merch and covers to shill at random dates like halloween, anniversary will probably be really big for them.

>>74669924
Actual audio from Ina's room when she stands up and walks to the door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CofbOiKj0

So it's in agreement that those who couldn't place their trust in FuwaMoco are mentally-ill and have trust-issues, correct? It's ridiculous how their hearts of gold attracted absolute scum like them.

>>74669737
>>74669822
Which cliquefag paypig is this?

>>74668900
>>74669615
>>74669687
you can still watch them, maybe even interact with them through superchats and standard chat, but they remember you doubted them and as such you have been eliminated from ever being considered a husband to them.

you were weak. you were driven by your emotions. fuwamoco cried because they were afraid of failing to protect your smile and disappointing you, you cried because you believed fuwamoco actually did fail in doing those two things. you don't deserve them. your best bet is using an alt now because they'll remember this even more so considering that was them at their most vulnerable on stream and instead of wanting to comfort and trust in them you were more concerned with yourself.

don't feel bad about contributing to the wave of schizos who went out of their way to make them feel like shit? you are a waste of oxygen, a worthless menhera whose only oshi is himself. you don't "love fwmc" and you never have. fuck off forever and never come back, you cretin.

>>74670030
Daniel the Hungarian homobeggar

Hidden posts keep adding up, they should kill themselves or something

>>74670035
>being considered a husband to them.
nta but anytime a post says this i cant take it seriously lol and i say this as i'm emotionally invested and of course would love to be their husband
but get a grip on reality, no one is going to be their husband until the june voice packs

>>74670035
BASED PERO

>My perspective is the only valid one
>Anyone who felt any differently to me is a bad person and a fake fan
>I alone am the arbiter of what people should be allowed to feel
>I am going to reply to this post with the "yes" chad face meme to distract from the fact that I have the emotional development of a 5 year old

>>74670035
Based perogod

>>74670108
>he missed the NY voicepack

>>74670035

>>74670096
It's wild. I've just been stubbing anyone who talks about that retarded shit and it's insane.
Welp, time to stub this post myself.

>>74670157
yep thats how it goes

>>74670157
tl;dr

>MMMoco-chaaaannn~
Fuwawa you're so cute.

Sisters, will we ever win?

>>74670035
I'll deal with the consequences of my own actions.

>>74670157
Honestly who cares. The schedule is out, the whole thing is a nothing burger. A month from now this will just be some wacky time we all look back and laugh on. Just continue loving FWMC. That's all we can do.

>>74670035
i still don't under what went in fwmc when they decided to unveil the gw announcement the way they did. it made it sound 100 times worse than it actually is and just sent the weak minded ruffians into a rage.

>>74670035
All I said was I was happy they were being genuine to their desires... was that being a doubter?

>>74670157
>I definitely love this person that I don't trust and don't feel bad about hurting

>>74669671
Their her friends, and she likes having kohai who look up to her. I don't know why some of you paint her as a sexpest

The people being so harsh over the regretful menheras are half sisters, just switching their strategies since the one they planned to use is now invalid, keep that in mind.
That being said, do take to heart to stop doubting them until they give you an actual reason to, but more importantly, decide why you want to support them and be honest with your feelings. Don't tell yourself and others it's all about their dream to feel better if the moment chasing their dreams doesn't allign with giving you 100% of their attention you lash out.
That massive apology wall didn't learn anything, it's embarrassing to see him saying "maybe they changed because of our feedback! that's a good thing! I regret nothing!", basically telling himself he should harrass them whenever he feels a slight doubt about future unannounced content to make sure they'll stay obedient. I'm sure he would disagree when I put it that way, but that's exactly what he said.
Try actually listening next time. Try actually thinking before replying, you're not the woman in the relationship. Stop acting like one. They weren't wrong saying you need to be "macho enough" for this.

>>74670282
im not going to laugh when i look back and remember the idiot hungarian who sent a wall to them in a tweet reply with borderline anti words, the passive aggressiveness was so stupid
its dreadful that we're stuck with these same people for the foreseeable future

So we're basically getting an english stream almost everyday?

>>74670030
The kind that couldn't believe how fucking insane and aggressive you guys can get (especially towards them) over the dumbest shit you can possibly imagine.
Seriously, you are unironically gave Kronies a run for their money.

>>74670282
One can certainly hope. I'm just taking the time to shit on anons feeling high and mighty for "keeping the faith" like watching autistic women pretend to be anime girls is a religion.

>>74670326
Like this example here.

>>74669920
I'm glad they get along with her. Idk if she has any cliques but it's kinda sad they don't really do full-gen things.

>>74670416
>autistic women pretend to be anime girls
so true sister

>>74670361
Who were the faggots in that discord watching yesterday?

>>74670416
>I'm just taking the time to shit on anons feeling high and mighty for "keeping the faith" like watching autistic women pretend to be anime girls is a religion.
"Female" hands typed this post.

>>74670441
It's kinda hard to do full-gen when you have La+ in your gen. That's like asking Myth to do full-gen stuff again.

>>74670401
five out of seven days got an english stream. with the two days with no english stream it's the marine off collab and the other koyo&friend collab

>>74670476
I don't know, didn't check, but in the screencaps they were saying "healer"

>>74670401
DKC on Monday, SC reading on Tuesday, AO ONI on Friday, MInecraft on saturday, and members fall guys on sunday
Only Tuesday and Wednesday missing.

We are no joke getting more english streams on muh golden week than this past week lmao

>>74670035
I don't really feel guilty or anything, I just feel relieved my questions were adressed.
Any sane person would obviously would obviously discuss their doubts and insecurities regarding each other if they were in a healthy relationship, even if it's a platonic distant one between entertainer and audience.
You don't really keep up things bottled up like a retard without speaking up (assuming it's something sensible), right?

>>74670416
Cry me a river sister

>>74670416
>like watching autistic women pretend to be anime girls is a religion.
where were you?

>>74670035
Baused

>>74670599
>Not to be confused with Bautistic

>>74670416
>Look at this guy not having a schizophrenic meltdown, how high and mighty
Sorry, I didn't think not hurting two autistic girls was such a difficult value to uphold

>>74670361
A single VOD comment is not harassment, but otherwise I agree with you. If anything, the silver lining to this mess is that anyone doubting them in the future (genuine or sister) can be pointed to this event as an example of why they should be trusted.

>>74670566
there's a big fucking difference between speaking up and whatever the fuck you did this last week

>>74670441
>Idk if she has any cliques
She is in suisei clique lol.

>>74670361
>you're not the woman in the relationship. Stop acting like one.
He will never learn and keep posting about how he cries thinking of FuwaMoco in bed or on a bus ride like the little bitch he is. Utterly disgraceful.

>521 bau baus in 2.5 hours
how does she do it

Should I make another apology wall on the mengen? Wait to send it during fall guys? I just need to make sure they don't hate me for what I didn't intend to say

>>74670691
I do wish those people stop at just a single VOD comment.
Some fuckers doesn't stop at just single, vod, nor comments

>>74670814
Whats the total baubau overall? individually?

>>74670814
By matching it with the same amount of "Eheheheh~"s. It makes everything balance out.

all this talk about trust has been so fucking weird to me
i think maybe i have a little bit of entertainmentschizo in me but , what the fuck is there to distrust? maybe i'm default "trust" but they are streamers. they provide content. if theres a stream i dont think i'll like, i wont watch it
me watching or not watching does not affect anything between us, so i don't understand what is there to "distrust"? all their streams are pretty much as advertised - they don't go "DKC2 STREAM!" and then it turns out its fucking conkers bad fur day instead

am i just not mentally ill enough? do i need to increase my mental illness stat?

>>74670864
the dude got menhera moment last month so the counts ain't accurate no more

>>74670864
>Fuwawa - 128832
>Mococo - 87931
>FUWAMOCO - 216763
according to that one guy in the comments

Some of you are being too harsh.
Anon was a little bitch but at least he owned up to it.
>>74670845
No. Move on and forget about it.

>>74670845
For the love of God please just fucking stop for ONCE.
Just move on already.

>>74670896
>am i just not mentally ill enough? do i need to increase my mental illness stat?
you're fine, it's coming from the deluded idiots who genuinely believe that FuwaMoco are their girlfriend/wives.

>>74670845
No, just say nice things from now on

>>74669671
Why are you a fag? Is great they have a senpai who openly dotes on them.

What was it like to be free entertainment for the whole week, menheras and sisters?

>>74670896
it's ok, some people are just too fucking drunk on the three (3) instances of GFE they got

>>74670035
reminder: not a SINGLE rufferan was an anti/shitposter/doubter
keep that in mind the next time you talk shit about pero

>>74671001
>who genuinely believe that FuwaMoco are their girlfriend/wives.
They literally are 100% unironically. They said do themselves

>>74671035
>rufferan

>>74670896
Retardation and obsession. If they do a member stream where they say something that indicates something I might not like for upcoming streams, I might leave a comment saying what I do or don't like about it and leave it at that. I'll watch what I want and ignore what I don't care about. Who cares if I don't watch the Koyori offcollab karaoke? Oh wait, schizos here and that's it.

>>74671068
No, they said they're MY daughter

>>74671068
They said they're my wives, not yours, sorry

>>74671068
Yeah, mine. Not yours.

>>74670899
Someone started using AI so it's up to date again because he had to come back to keep attention

>>74671068
they say their my gf so fuck of fags

>>74670406
Oh shut the fuck up faggot. If you didn’t want to held accountable for the retarded and disrespectful shit you post maybe don’t do it with your name attached to it. Have you wondered why it’s only a certain number of clique fags who get brought up and dragged through the dirt here? It’s because they’re the ones that cause problems for FWMC and/or act menhera on main where they can be identified as fans of FWMC. There are plenty of clique fags that are unknown because they act like normal and respectful fans. Any good fan base should hold their own members accountable for the problems they cause. I’m not here to coddle some mentally ill attention starved fucks, I’m here to watch CGDCTs.

>>74670698
Including me in the group of offenders is fine, since I did speak up. And guilty by association is a thing.
But just because I spoke to personally just let out things out of my chest and hopefully move on, doesn't mean I should personally feel guilty if some people did whatever the fuck happened last week.
If I recall correctly at most I felt slightly embarassed when it happened but that was it.

>Game ends and everyone in the same spot again.
>2 minutes and Moco-chan runs away to quieter spaces.
I do wonder if she would have talked more if she actually could have raised her voice above some or if her autism still would have triggered. I love her either way.

>>74670896
Well, it's cause they either aren't your oshi, or you just aren't attached at all. Your position is similar to the resident anti-gachikoischizo except less hostile, I guess.
FuwaMoco got incredibly attached incredibly quickly, and as a result, so did pretty much anyone who oshis them. Them being huper attached led to their own menhera breakdown, and the fans being hyper attached led to theirs.

>>74670896
You aren't that invested. Its fine.

>>74671160
my fucking sides

I'm watching doroke right now, it's so freaking funny to hear Mocotyan screaming from across the room on Fuwawa's POV.

>>74670024
Anon, we got an actual stream on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-33SoUtfCs

>>74670896
As a menhera, let me break it down for you:

The "bad end" scenario that everyone was schizo-ing over was the possibility that the last 8 months were all an act to just get them back to Japan to flip to mostly JP content and doing their RM activities again. Obviously, in retrospect, this is ridiculous, but enough things were happening all at once that made it ever so slightly possible as to be worrying.

The JP content was never the issue, it was always the possibility that we had be duped, and all of our emotional (not to mention financial) investment was for nothing. I personally never cared about the money, I'm lucky enough to have money to burn, but waking up every day looking forward to seeing someone to only find out you were only ever a stepping stone is not a comfortable feeling.

Obviously we have a a lot of reflection to do, but anyone claiming there was never any room for doubt is lying to themselves or a sister.

>>74670896
These people are unhealthily obsessed with them. Fwmc gave them a little attention for some money and now they feel entitled to their entire lives. I’ve been watching vtubers for 4 years now and I’ve never seen this many entitled schizos in one fanbase

>>74670896
Yes you need to be more mentally ill to understand those fans. And they will give you more love for being mentally ill too. Start quilting likes, crying about what they do and they will go out of their way to make you smile. If you are always happy they won't even think of you.

>>74671262
Can kicker Ina. It's great.

>>74670896
you are too normal for this place
you should feel sorry for people here, not look for a way to fit in

>>74671287
It's because they never set a real boundary.
You can still simp and enjoy attention, but there's always a line and we're far past it.

>>74671205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoE7INMtxRg&t=7525s
on the other hand, she sounds so soft and weak this stream, it's fucking adorable not gonna lie

>>74671033
its just strange to me, because i've also listened to their voicepacks, i gorillad during the VN streams, i beat my meat to fuwamoco
but at the end of the day, they wont and cannot do anything resembling a real relationship -- they're not going to text my phone "why arent you watching the stream" when i'm not there

>>74671226
idk, ive watched every stream except uhh sasuke, kanji de go, watame live, and something else
i'd say i've relaxed with my feelings but im still very much invested to watch them, but i genuinely cannot relate to this trust stuff
maybe i've gotten complacent or something but idk man, the trust stuff is just weird to me because as much as i love them, they're still streamers in the end and that comes with its own territory

>>74671287
And they show no time of stopping. Someone's going to get hurt, so if it worries you I'd look elsewhere before it gets uglier.

>>74671374
>they're not going to text my phone "why arent you watching the stream" when i'm not there

>>74671373
Yeah I know. I will never understand 'ear cleaning'-type asmr fags, but this shit right here is gold.

>>74671374
>they're not going to text my phone "why arent you watching the stream" when i'm not there
you didn't get that?

>>74671287
Some people, majoritarily men, are awfully starved for attention and affection in today's world. Of course they are obsessed, after all mental health is a real issue that isn't addressed with regards to men.

new community post

>>74671372
Yea. Look at this >>74671226
>if you don’t feel like they do its cause “they aren’t your oshi or you aren’t attached”
>”fuwamoco got incredibly attached”
Them paying attention to their fans and building a community = they are obsessed with us
They will twist everything they say to justify their mental illness

>>74671374
>they're not going to text my phone "why arent you watching the stream" when i'm not there
>he isn't on their secret husband list

What's this new shitposting angle? Just admit you fags were wrong and dogeza.

>>74671444
I'll cling to that one time my middle school teacher crush gave me a compliment, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me!

>>74671374
It's because while you understand it's fun to play into it a bit, you also probably have something else outside of them/their community that you enjoy. There are people who's lives have completely warped around these two. It's the same kind of people who would post that they would be upset/disappointed to not be able to make it to a stream live that made them scared to do a twitter space. Those same kinds of people will jump from hobby to hobby every couple of years because their emotional drain on everyone around them makes them get pushed away and then they develop a victim complex where it's everyone elses fault but their own and they go to reek havoc in another community that feels 'open'. I've seen it a few times with some of the stuff I'm into.

>gachikoischizo shitting on gachikoi
>using terms like "simp"
>pretending the gachis weren't OVERWHELMINGLY supportive
Jesus christ it really smells like reddit/tranny farms in here

>>74671522
Literally, watch streams. It's not that hard, sister.

>>74671535
Compliment from a teacher when you're a teenager really goes a long way on shaping your mindset though
I mean, my whole 20 years careers can be tracked back to that time I got complimented back in elementary school
>crush
wait nvm disregard all of that

>>74671605
I think the sistser/anti/shitposters are upset about the GW schedule being so good, and that fans are happy with it. They lost the angle, so now they're scrambling to find another one.

>>74671605
what youre smelling is yourself 4chin poster

I'm always forgetting about community posts kek.

>>74671638
clean ears

>>74671533
>What's this new shitposting angle?
The new angle is using the JPschizos to shit all over any fan halfway invested kek
I never once doubted them because I listened to their words and understand that these girls overreact a lot.

>>74671605
Sisters arent getting any results in /#/s so they go to /baubau/ to farm dophamine(You)s

>>74671597
this post sounds scarily accurate, can any menheras agree?

>>74671468
wait, how the fuck are you able to comment there if precat not ope--
>precat open
oh rite
main channel stuff

>>74670691
I agree that a single VOD comment isn't, but as the other anon pointed it went beyond that, but more importantly is turning it into a pattern. "I left that message, they heard my feedback and the week that would be disastrous is now good! you're welcome!" is what he's saying. Leaving a VOD comment that you didn't think through and regret later is one thing, doing this again strategically because you've convinced yourself that will lead to you getting your way IS harrassment.

Eh, opening the thread to see that someone wrote a big wall going through their self-reflection on everything that has happened this week feels surprisingly refreshing, happy for you guys.

>>74671605
>>74671677
samefag

>>74671720
ears, clean them. If you want tips on how to properly clean your ears so you can understand the words they say, I would suggest you go to the store and purchase 3% hydrogen peroxide.
Get an eyedropper as well and drop THREE (3) drops of hydrogen peroxide in your ear canal. Let it sit for ONE MINUTE as it breaks down the obvious WALL OF WAX blocking your eardrums.
After that, you'll be able to hear again and you'll understand just how attached they really are.
It works, trust me.

>>74671605
Are you calling what the homo begger did overwhelmingly supportive? He's one of the most open gachi ruffians there are

>>74671757
>>74669141

>>74671729
Yes, ever since high school I've never made it more than 2 years in an online community. 3 years in the best. So I expect others are similar and the big cleanse will happen in 2026 or so

>>74671605
Yes, it's sisters shitting on anyone halfway attached to them cause their shitposting tactics aren't working anymore.

Now that the schedule is out I'm just annoyed their menhera outburst ruined the comfy battle plan stream. It's not that bad a schedule, though I personally don't like so many collabs in a week. I genuinely don't understand their hysterics.

>>74671855
the fuck is this

I have actual schizophrenia. I hear voices all the time, so hearing the many voices speak at once during the streams overlapping with the voices in my head was quite the experience. God help me.

>>74671991
careful now, the sisters are going to call you a fake fan for misunderstanding them

>>74672027
Same but double because I had fuwAwa and mococo pov both at max . The crowd periods felt aaaaaamazin

>>74672027
Did you reply to post here without noticing that was yours too?

>>74672093
No?

>>74671001
I believe FuwaMoco are my girlfriend/wives and I agree with that entertainmentschizo's post.

>>74672027
posts like these genuinely terrify me

>>74672110
You just did

No like this month and they're off to bed. I'm out, this always was my line. Didn't expect much just bare minimum acknowledgement I exist.

>>74672138
what?

>>74671991
JP collabs on their channel are THE best way to get Japs to sub to them. It's people who are coming to your channel who probably have never been, coming to watch their Oshi interact with you, who then get asked to sub to your channel by their Oshi and they will do it because it costs them nothing. The only other way you might get more is by being on the main channel, because unlike the EN main channel, there's actually important shit happening on the Hololive channel. That gets a ton of eyes on you because Japs are more likely to watch those main channel events that EN ever would for the EN variant.

MY WIVES WILL BECOME JAPANESE DORYAAAA

>>74671729
Ive dealt with plenty of menheras in the past and it does fit. Truth is theyre lonely for a reason.

>Nerissa gets kiss-raped by Matuli
>Moco-chan is just shaking her head 'no' the whole time
I love my dummy.

#helpFWMC I want to offer some constructive feedback on the dual-stream setup! (1) First of all, thank you for trying this out! (2) Switching 1x~2x speed is needed to keep them synced, a little ruff but OK, but desynced BGM is very noticeable (no BGM best?) 【Tweet 1 of 3】

>>74671374
>but i genuinely cannot relate to this trust stuff
That's fine, you don't have to, though I feel as though you aren't as attached as you say. Just a more-or-less casual fan who doesn't see them as emotional fulfillment, inspiration, or gfe at all. No big deal though.
FuwaMoco are very VERY attached to the Ruffians and have harbored, whether intentionally or unintentionally, an equally attached audience. Doing so means that there are certain things they could do like collabing with the homos, saying something completely unlike them, or secretly having a bf/husband which would 100% "break trust" since it goes against the way they've presented themselves, I suppose.
FuwaMoco take the things they say seriously, and have outright said to "trust them." When someone says things like this, it's natural fans will take it seriously too.

>>74672154
>>74672093
>>74672110
>>74672138

>>74671991
>Now that the schedule is out I'm just annoyed their menhera outburst ruined the comfy battle plan stream.
Don't worry, I agree with you. In fact it was THEIR outburst that was responsible for the menhera's having the reaction they did. They made it seem much worse than what it was, as barely any EN steams for GW. I know most of you think FuwaMoco are perfect and that's because you don't watch streams since they've said themselves they aren't but they do make mistakes at times and not only were they responsible for the chain reaction of schizos having mental breakdowns but they ruined an otherwise comfy stream.

>>74672271
(3) Is there a way you prefer we respectfully acknowledge we're watching both, and support both? Or do you prefer we focus on you individually in split streams? I want to make you both feel the most comfortable and supported as possible! 【Tweet 2 of 3】

>>74672300
how the fuck

>>74672357
meds

After today I’m sold on a Minecraft arc, if they enjoy the game those will be amazing streams

>>74672267
>Continues
>Nerissa trying to kiss Shuba to a "WHY!?!"
Oh wait...
Nerissa was the one doing the raping the whole time...

>>74672300
AAIIEEEEEEEEEE

I watched 2 POVs at once, but I'm loving going back to each individually just so I can hear the other through a secondary mic, it sounds like the twitter spaces a bit

>>74672389
problem is that vanilla minecraft isn't as guided as this one

>>74672389
don't be mistaken, minecrap fucking sucks especially with two inexperienced hags playing it

>Moco-chan talking about being cute to her chat
>Hear Fuwawa in the background talking about being cute to her chat
Holy shit this is great, what were you fags so worried about with 2 POV again?

>>74671991
>worried about disappointing fans
>worried about "leaving people out"
>worried about forcing Ruffians to wake up early just to watch them
>worried about fans oshihenning because the week has a LOT of JP streams
>worried about being seen as cynical for capitalizing on GW
Pick one, or all of the above. It goes double because they both obviously come /here/ sometimes and they both LOOOOVE to talk each other into deeper and deeper menhera doomspirals. They also have unfounded abandonment issues and irrational fears about themselves.
Basically, they're both women who elect to schizo out about the WORST possible futures to each other.

The echo is cute but I hope they can fix it

>>74672481
Nah, it's kino

I like talking to myself.

Deinstitutionalization and it's consequences, we need to bring back mental asylum

>>74672507
Just pick a stream to watch instead of watching both and go back and watch the VOD of the other if you care so much.

>>74672498
>what were you fags so worried about with 2 POV again
I don't have two devices

Ruffians, is it true these two have committed incest?

Are we going to acknowledge that everyone (itta) that posted a clip during the stream being live outed themselves as only watching one of their streams?
Common knowledge the paypigs lean to fuwawa but funny to see in reality.

>>74672446
Couldnt they just do survival mode or whatever it is called to learn the ropes?

>>74672505
>both obviously come /here/
No matter how much people spam this it will never be true.

>>74672574
'fraid so

>>74672498
I really don't like having chat split up

>>74672568
What is a PC

>>74672558
OR they could easily fix it with filter since it’ll sound bad when they’re collabing with others

>>74672606
pay better attention. It's obvious

>>74672574
there is no solid proof but very likely

>>74672590
>Are we going to acknowledge that everyone (itta) that posted a clip during the stream being live outed themselves as only watching one of their streams?
No because i don't care about some random faggots, go back

>>74672539
we matches!

>>74672505
The problem with this line of reasoning is that if they had just done a members post outlining their intentions without any vagueposting bullshit any time after the battle plan stream, everyone would have been "oh, is that it? lol okay". And don't tell me they were afraid to do that, they spent the latter half of the members stream doing whatever the fuck that was, so a 5-line members post is not out of the question. They handled it poorly, people responded poorly, and hopefully they can take this as an opportunity to improve, the end.

>>74672628
I don't know, what is it?

>>74670157
results of zoomers not interacting with other humans beings when they were kids
they are stuck in their 2yo mentality forever

>>74672498
timestampa

NOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH

>>74672639
Yes yes, the voices in your head told you so it's true. Reality is they don't come here and never have.

>>74672662
I should have added that they are also retarded

>on the hololive OFFICIAL CHANNEL (for the 1st time!)
But it's not the first time... You already were there for the new year event... And the new year hologra... And the holoexpo advent panel...

>>74672590
Are you stupid or something? Just because I take screencaps of Fuwawa's stream doesn't mean I'm not watching Mococo's.

>>74672667
https://youtu.be/FoE7INMtxRg?t=4989
>>74672638
You are part of the problem. Eat shit you whiny baby.

>>74672735
Yes but taking a recording mid stream requires you to have only one open.

>>74672770
No...?

>>74672734
You're part of the problem for getting so pissy over the most basic criticism

>>74672294
>emotional fulfillment
yeah probably not, they make me happy anytime they stream though and i enjoy their tweets about life or voice tweets etc but i dont NEED them to be happy
>inspiration
honestly, i think i see them as INSPIRING but not an INSPIRATION, that make sense? i can easily see them inspiring others, their journey and not giving up is incredible. but sadly, i guess they haven't inspired me, maybe a little bit, in a "life has a bit more color than before" type of way
>gfe
i mean this one is weird because i like the fantasy/delusion of them being my girlfriends, but i strictly acknowledge that as fantasy. obviously, the VPs have been clear GFE but thats VPs, the VNs though especially valentines were pretty clear too but idk it doesnt feel like flamboyant GFE to me, i like it of course though

i'd confidently say i am attached but i guess not as attached as others, because i have no problem skipping a stream, i dont ever feel like "im letting them down", the only thing i keep in mind is that i represent fuwamoco because i have their oshi mark so i can't be a menace to society (for better or worse)
and i'm very aware they're very attached to us, but like i said - they're streamers, so while i know theyre attached to us to me its like - they can't do much about it unless they want to risk breaking that streamer-fan line and that has its own set of dangers. the only time we ever see each other is when they stream, or tweet, and even then we still have access to vods to see them "whenever"

i think its just not possible for me to get obsessively-attached, there will always be this mental barrier that there is a distance between us as fan and streamer. i do want to support them forever though, i really look forward to when they (and advent) get 3D, when they perform in fes, when they release their first orisong, all that glorious shit that they can accomplish in hololive

>>74672667
Sorry, I timestamped wrong there. Here it is
https://youtu.be/FoE7INMtxRg?t=4679

>>74672726
Those were on the Hololive English channel, right? Not the main Hololive channel.

>>74672770
Doubles advocate, the other stream could be muted and you could rewind with ytbetter.

>>74672597
I guess "don't die" does counts as a goal, but I doubt it's enough of a drive for them.

>>74672788
>I like when I can hear Fuwawa in the background talking to her section of chat about something cute while Moco-chan does the same
>HOW ABOUT THEY JUST MAKE IT SO YOU CAN'T HEAR THE OTHER ONE
You're so fucking stupid.

>>74672662
The things they said were clear and reasonable. The way they reacted was overwhelming and unnecessary. Reply to their words instead of their emotions and you'll have no problem.
Nobody was screeching in the replies, the problem wasn't people getting emotional and crying while typing their walls, their well mannered posts were unnecessarily harsh and had fuck all to do with what was said.
I do not at all agree with placing the blame on them. One of the most liked comments even started along the lines of "while it's true that Ririka also does EN streams", who THE FUCK was talking about this? They didn't even remotely brush on this subject, you fags were very VERY clearly paying more attention to this thread than their words, and RESPONDING TO THIS THREAD, not their words, in their comments.
That comment was not worded aggressively, it wasn't disrespectful, it was no anti post, it just had absolutely fucking nothing to do with a single thing they said. And dozens of people thought it was a relevant response that needed to be boosted to top comments.
LISTEN TO THEIR WORDS.

>>74672726
They're the main girls, not guests this time

>>74671991
>Am I at fault for having a meltdown?
>No it was actually their fault

>>74672850
It will sound bad in collabs there is literally no denying this

>>74672809
You could, but who the fuck does that and misses them while they are live? It can't wait until post stream?

>>74672889
>Am I at fault for having a meltdown
Projecting.

>>74672734
Dude I’m just saying it’ll sound shit when they do big collabs like next week with Lethal company and content warning. You’re the only getting pissy

these posts can't be real

>>74672870
but you know the saying
action speaks louder than words, and emotion kiiiinda counts as action, right?

>>74672794
Thank you! Rewatching key moments is definitely more fun with one of them in the background, holy shit so cute.
I don't usually watch clips, but I think I'll check a bunch this time just to have this experience.

>>74672941
ai board

>>74672850
I don’t think you understand how sound works

fuck you guys
fuwawa and mococo love us romantically and masturbate thinking about us
they also have sex with each other because they love each other more than they love us and thats fine

entertainerschizo kys
sisters go buy your estrogen and treat your hole

>>74672892
i dont think anyone cares about sounding bad in collabs
for years, various holomem read chat during collabs - i personally hate when they do that but it cant be helped

>>74673020
why would they masturbate thinking about us when they can think about each other instead

>>74673020
Moco-chan you really need to work on not oversharing, even on an anonymous image board

>>74672870
>Reply to their words
This is not the W you think it is. Their "words" were that they were okay with people not being able to watch them, or throwing them away, that there are other streamers people can watch. If we went solely on what they said (which a lot of people did), then the conclusion was all JP during GW, and then more JP and less EN going forward. The former didn't happen, so god willing the latter won't either.

>>74673065
variety
and they like the kiss x sis scenario

>>74673020
Tell yourself whatever you need to keep those hormones in check, just stop guilt tripping them for trying to be happy

>>74672954
Yes, but you need to be able to read them. They kept begging us to not forget about them during the move, they only began to believe we wouldn't and stopped bringing that up when they saw people day after day camping their free chat and doing watchalongs of old VODs because they thought rewatching FuwaMoco was better than doing anything else with their time.
Them crying because they don't want to disappoint you, and they don't want you to leave, even if they understand if you want to, only means that they're scared of this, it's not confirmation that it will happen. If you listened to their words, you could judge whether or not the things they were saying would be enough to make you leave them.
A lot of replies said they were ok with anything for Golden Week because they gave us a heads up, which means all of the people regretting and apologizing were going menhera over a week you should have been perfectly capable of writing off as "this week is for their dreams, even if it isn't for me, I'll wait for the next one".

>Moco-chan's chat tells her that they can hear stuff being announced in Fuwawa's stream
>"huah? I can't hear anything! Fuwawa what are they saying can you hear them?"
>Quiet Fuwawa reply
>"No Moco-chan no I can't"
>"What are they saying huah!? I can't hear them!"
>"I can't either Moco-chan!"
Simply kino.

>>74673108
>just stop guilt tripping them for trying to be happy
I'm on the side where concernfags needs to kts
didnt read the thread after some posts
what do you mean by this, sister?

>>74672787
NTA but I know exactly where you're coming from and I agree. Fuwawa or Mococo are just about my girlfriends as they are actual demon guard dogs. They aren't. They're streamers who cater to the fantasies of lonely ojisan and there's nothing wrong with that. But if, say, I wanted to meet them in person at a meet and greet, I can't just tell the organizers to let me speak to FuwaMoco longer than the time set for me because "they're my girlfriends." They are not. Believing so would just be losing grip on reality. And besides, if this were a genuine relationship, fuck no i'm sharing the woman I love with thousands of other men across the globe. But I understand what this is and that's fantasy so I can indulge in FWMC loving the me who isn't really "me" as anonymous but "me" as in one out of the many who is represented as 2 blue and pink ruffians.

>>74673087
>W
First of all, kill yourself. Second of all, yes, they did say that, and also said this:
>Next week will be A LOT because it's Golden Week, but it will never be this bad again
>Most of our content will still be in english
>Only once in a while
>Will try to keep your timezones in mind, with the exception of collabs
>Will try a solution for EOPs during collabs, but will be speaking in japanese to make the senpai comfortable, at least for the first interactions
If you think all of the above is reason enough to feel that way, then sure. But if reading this in text form makes you think you acted like a little bitch, then you did.

>>74673131
>fuwawa trying to be quiet while mococo casually screaming in the background

>see ruffian post on twitter saying they too are shadowbanned
lol yeah i got excited and responded to all of their tweets...

>>74672870
I really thought telling them I don't care for JP streams but I want them to do whatever makes them happy would be going too far. That fear was gone with one refresh of the comments.

>>74673131
So are they even supposed to be able to hear the main parts or what?
I'm still not exactly clear on that, and also mostly because I had three fucking stream open so I don't know which sound came from where

stop replying to AI from south east asia

>I think they will speak a lot in Japanese next week, so there will be some conversations that are not understandable for everyone in Overseas, but we will have fun together!
Duckbro...

>>74673326
No no SEA 2AM now, not SEA

>>74671266
There was never any room for doubt. Every single thing they did over the past 8 months shows how much they care about us, falling for schizo shit is your own fault

>>74673317
There's a global mute to shut everyone up from the sound soup that happens when full unmute happens. Then they mute everyone and selectively would unmute a few people to make announcements for the games. You can see it turn on and off during the stream in the MC chat.

>>74673337
my reps paid off

>>74673337
Don't worry lil duck I've been enjoying Hololive for years

>>74673303
>responded to all of their tweets
I didnt think about this as a reason to get shadowbanned

fwmc should play the bunny game

fuwamoco... the frame for holo no kyuujitsu...

I'm actually looking forward to shashingo and kanji de go to see how far my 60 days reps would hold up

>>74672870
Ririka was brought up because she is doing English streams with the express intent of increasing her sub count. Which is similar to what they said they are doing but the other way around
That's what the comparison is for, because to an extent it sounded like they are pushing more on the JP side for subs. And I think that doesn't sit right with some people.

>>74673460
Sexpest Matuli...

>>74673460
MATSURI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>74673459
oh wait a minute please ignore this post im a huge fucking retard

>>74669239
That's what makes them impossible to really hate, that even if they make someone unhappy or mad or sad, they still hope they'll come back. They're too sweet.

>>74673467
Shashingo is extremely baby level. Not sure why they picked that

>>74673467
>shashingo
Doable, it seems simple enough
>kanji de go
You'll get filtered before they even start the game (its also boring as shit)

>Mass unmute happens for second game
>Zeta is just repeating loudly in Moco-chan's ear 'IT'S OVER, IT'S SO OVER, IT'S OVER CHAT, IT'S SOOO OVER'
Fuck I love these streams.

>>74673460
They should replace shasingo with that. The numbers will be way bigger.

For the delux members in main channel, when's the aftertalk scheduled for?

kanji de slop

>>74673360
>falling for schizo shit is your own fault
Perhaps, but the sweeter the last 8 months were, the more bitter learning it was a lie would have been. I still contend all of this would have been avoided with better communication. If you never had doubts, then well done for you, but not everyone is so trusting.

>>74673459
>>74673499
Oh nononononono

My cum in Mocochan's panties

>>74673547
kanji de go is funny if you know the answers and they don't
the first stream was their best Japanese solo

>>74673547
Don't underestimate me
I'll have you know that I already have like, 75 radicals in my belt

>>74673459
>>74673499
haha laugh at this dum dum

WATAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>74673602
You were watching fucking chuuba
It was all a lie from the very start, but you should still understand that your feeling is real

>>74673636
kek seeing Mococo malding over binoculars was funny.

>>74673476
>while it's true
Is adressing it as a direct point of comparison, as if they themselves brought this up as an excuse. Yes, they want to increase their sub count, but they also said, with every word, that these are things they want to do, they want to use japanese more, they want to reach out to that audience, they want to collab with senpai, and that mane-chan scolded them for holding back from doing things they WANTED to do but were SCARED.
The only place that tried to say "if Ririka can why can't they?" was /here/, FWMC never once brought up "JPs do EN streams too!", they don't give a shit, it's none of their business either way.

>>74672481
MC is a quintessential streaming game, the foundation of hololive is MC.

>>74668933
This is what I'm worried about. Seeing as they are going to have individual POV Minecraft streams I had no choice but to get two new monitors so I can enjoy fluffy and fuzzy at the same time.

Now my only concern and maybe someone here can help, is it possible to have Fuwawa on the left side of my headphones and MOCOCO on the right? If so what do I need to do?

>>74672787
oh if theres one thing fuwamoco has inspired me for, it's to be vocally supportive. no longer am i a lurker in the shadows but i actually leave comments and reply to tweets, it does feel nice engaging a bit more

>>74673547
no way, kanji de go was kino, it'll give us another fetish from Fuwawa's list for sure.

>>74673476
Problem is that they have a clear rule saying
>THOU SHALT NOT BRING UP ANOTHER NAME LEST MENTIONED FIRST

https://youtu.be/QitWxj8J4ic
Made me wonder if this is that Lodong dude that previously drops SCs for fuwamoco. Is he still in Fuwamoco’s chat?

>>74673782
The fetish list is written all over the wall you knuckle dragger

>>74673602
Well? Do you think it'll change moving forward? If you're gonna act this way every time you have doubts, then you need to do something about it. If you think you can trust them moving forward, then great, lesson learned, everyone is better off now.

Btw, they are planning to do way more eigo streams compared to Bae and Mori when they were spamming VCR.

>>74673826
How about I put you all over the wall huh

a part of me wanted the schedule to be 100% japanese streams. i was looking forward to seeing just how horrible this place could get.

I hope they dont plit the audio for the MC solo
But dunno how bad the echo will be during the Lethal Company since its in game audio

>>74673815
>Is he still in Fuwamoco’s chat?
He moved on to rissa.

>>74673826
Not really, Fuwawa's infatuation for MILFs wasn't really indicated anywhere before she namedropped it.

>>74673602
>this could've all been avoided
By you taking your meds and spending less time here yeah

>whole ID branch randomly circling and clucking like chicken
>everyone else follow suit
SO THATS WHERE THAT RANDOM CLUCK NOISES CAME FROM

>>74673892
Same, but moreso because it would have just meant a free week for me except if I decided one of the collabs was worth watching as an EOP.

>>74673815
It is and he's not, he's a nerizzler now

>>74673836
My position has always been that the next few weeks, not this one, is what is worth being concerned over. That said, this week has shown me that I should have trusted them far more than I did.

>>74673815
i kind of hate things like this because the fuck you want me to do?
keep my enjoyment of hololive to a minimum by only watching you?
although watching the clip
>they say things like oh i only love XX
>they comment more than they do on my own streams
i guess i can get it, you can watch other holomem while still having your #1
but shit man, if you're not streaming and theres another holomem i like streaming and im interested i will be watching - i definitely wont be as chatty as i am with you, but i will be watching

>>74673836
nta but i was unsure so i kept quiet this time
if it ever comes a time when they're in the hot seat again i will go to combat against the sisters and menhera

>>74673936
ID is fucking great. It's one thing I've always been sad about for EN having been watching Kiara since early 2021 and missing very little. I'm glad she started going a bit hard in the ID pit last year with her trip to Indo. They get their off-collabs, have more chances to just hang out, which makes it a lot easier for some of them to mesh together.

Anyone else enjoy streams less when they're active in their chats? The times I've just reclined in my chair and watched not worrying about replying in chat have been some of my comfiest streams.

>>74674007
>in the hot seat again
Do you not understand that this hot seat was a complete fabrication?

>>74673815
i don't think fuwamoco particularly mind as long as you aren't watching those talents while their stream is going on and if you aren't spouting love shit to them if you're supposed to be gachikoi

>>74674069
You should learn how to blind type

>>74673994
Others are fine i think. Nene is just a weak minded menhera.

>>74673761
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sound-adjustment/

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sound-adjustment/nebbehiamgpclkolmehcolhnfkkagdmp

I'm aiming for 10 today

>>74674069
I don't type in chat too much personally even when I can be there. I'll put in little bits and pieces, but I will never understand the people who type CONSTANTLY, whether it's just emote spam or them typing walls.

>>74674095
You should learn how to normal read

>>74674133
fuck off

>>74674042
Being able to off-collab is such a game changer. Just look at rissa and FWMC. It was kino.

>>74674133
10 cummies or 10 likes?

>>74674069
nope, i find the streams even more engaging when i'm in chat reacting to things fuwamoco are doing even if i'm not read by either of them but there's nothing wrong with just sitting back and watching since i do that too

>>74674069
i wouldnt say "enjoy streams less" but i do agree with the sentiment, i enjoy just reclining back and hardly chatting and they dont interact as much with chat either
but honestly even if they do interact with chat, you just gotta learn to let it go and sit back and not care about it either. sometimes i hide chat

>>74674201
Cummies retard, I don't care about Twitter kek

>>74674133
Why do coomers think we care about this?

>>74673722
But again, bringing up mane-chan puts it on to managements feet, which is why the comparison gets placed to Ririka. I'm sure Ririka wants to improve her english too, but the reason she is doing those streams first and foremost is because management is pushing her to bring up their subs

By bringing up mane-chan it muddies their words
>They say they want to do these things, but they're crying so hard. It doesn't sound like they want to do these things. Is this because mane-chan is pushing them?
You say "just listen to their words" but it's that easy, you yourself admitted in this thread that you "need to be able to read them" which just puts it back to the fact that they're words aren't some rock solid proof of anything

>>74674237
He got 3 (You)s in under 2 minutes you tell me

>>74674164
It's also amazing for zatsu content. Getting to hear stories about stupid little stuff they did together for the day is perfection. Then you can go to the other members stream and hear their version of the hangout if you want too because your Oshi might have forgotten something or didn't put any importance on the same things the other member did.

my daughter...

>>74674237

>>74673994
Just don't say things you don't mean, I guess. If they never had a reason to believe they're your number one, they won't feel bad seeing you acting the same way or closer to someone else. They know a lot, if not most of their fans didn't start watching Hololive with them.

shiori said fwmc are less westerns and it makes sense hence why they wouldn't have a crush on shadow like her and biboo

>>74674155
I know what I'm saying retard
Once you mastered the art blind type, you don't worry about mere act of replying anymore. Typing became your second nature and your chat is just another outlet of your stream of you consciousness.
You don't think no more, the chat just immediately flows without you even noticing

>>74674375
>t. I like to spam worthless shit into chat non-stop with no thought involved.
Nice.

>>74674095
I find it hear because I'm dyslexic. I can blind type, but what I'm typing is spelt wrong and sometimes a word scramble so I have to re-read it anyway.

>>74674094
The problem is that it also makes them doubt what everyone else says, right? If they see a supposed gachikoi acting lovey dovey with someone else, they won't just think "ok, that guy isn't honest, one less gachi", they'll second guess every time they read anyone saying they love them.

>>74674417
Why do you think everyone just spammed emotes, hm?

>>74674164
I dont think it actually changed a lot.

>>74674375
Being able to blind type (grandmas can do this) doesn't automatically make you think everyone wants to hear your stream of consciousness

>>74674238
As someone who has somewhat watched ririka from the start, i cant put the blame on management pushing her english streams. It has been there from the start to the point that she also posts schedules in both english and japanese.

>>74674467
they second guess themselves every time they read a confession or expressions of love because of their own insecurities sadly

>>74674447
fuck, I meant hard*. Pefrect example of my retardation.

are other fans overthinking this much like ruffians?

>>74674498
I mean, that's the whole premise of chat. Just because you chat, doesn't mean everyone wants to see what you type, but you still sent it anyway

>>74674069
No because every time I do that it's because I can't stay awake anymore and I'm struggling to. When I'm wide awake I want to chat, I only want to be comfy when I'm lying to myself that I can totally stay awake and finish the stream while laying down.

>>74674595
i pray that anon is right and we have a mass exodus in 2026

>>74674595
Have you tried visiting other splits? Maybe go to the other advent members and compare. Heh

>>74674447
Dont think just jam
Just press the enter and forget

I can't hold it in anymore, I need to have loving passionate prone bone with Mococo. Help.

are they sleep?

>>74673994
Idk, seemed like she was talking about people not coming to her streams as often anymore, not that you can't be in other chats.

>>74674569
All you gotta do so is stick around, keep showing your appreciaition and affection for them. Sooner or later they'll believe you. Especially as vtubers, the first year has a lot of fans who claim you're their oshi drop off. Just keep supporting them, all you have to do.

>>74674756
I hope so. It's almost 4am in Japan.

>>74673994
This was a specific case of someone dropping Nene and then posting about it publicly. That's different than just watching another girl.

>>74674698
It's because advent is the new shiny toy and it just so happens FuwaMoco are the biggest of the new shiny toys. It draws in more weirdos who have nothing going for them but these online communities where they leech the emotional energy of everyone around them until they overstay their welcome and everyone starts telling them to go away. You'll see it happen with the Ruffian 'core fanbase'. It happened in late 2021 with KFP. There were a few fags who still loved to shit up the threads on cooldown, but shit's really calmed down in the last 6 months there too.

>>74673994
I dont see a single problem with what Nene said, to be honest. Nobody cares about the casuals, if you're invested then you better not say something you shouldn't on someone else's chat otherwise youre good
>>74674097
Depends a lot on whom you're talking about, really.

>>74674742
same. todays stream had her extra vulnerable and god i was so fucking hard
i want to lovingly embrace mococo tightly while thrusting wildly like a damn monkey fuckfuckfuck

>>74674887
Man I just want to kiss, hold, and baby her so bad.

>>74673815
>moreover that person is someone i often address by name
>they're someone who sends me quite a few super chats or comments or gives me membership-exclusive gifts
christ imagine getting called out like this lol

>>74674859
I think its also that a lot of ruffians are "refugees" from other fanbases, because they give them exactly what they were looking for, and are a little too gun-shy for their own good.