/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10888302
Most of the actually worthwhile games are NTSC titles with PAL stuff being demoslop and mediocre action games.

>>10888302
Stare at his hat and make sense of it
Behold its shape

Killed Until Dead

The truth is the C64 is a lot more to program for than to actually play games on.

>>10888495
I'm surprised there aren't more RPGs for the C64. The thing was practically built for DQ clones.

>>10888502
it had quite a lot of rpgs though, Wasteland, Phantasie, The Magic Candle, the Ultima games, Times of Lore, Bard's Tale, Might and Magic, Dragon Wars, The Legend of Blacksilver, all the gold box games just off the top of my head

>>10888549
There's like 100k games and only a handful of graphical RPGs. And I more meant highly simplified JRPG style games that fit the 1 button controller thing they had going on.

Test

Knight Games is great. MULE of course is classic.

>>10888302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j86veyiIcS8

>>10888495
>Type LOAD "" to load the game. When FOUND, press SPACE. When READY, type RUN.
What the FUCK were they THINKING?

>>10888571
Jesus, zoomers are a lost cause.

>>10889024
>he doesn't RUN/STOP + SHIFT

>>10888302
Ultima V

>>10888308
there she is, our resident schizo

>>10888302
not an easy question answer, so here's a top 5:

Summer Games II
International Karate Plus
Turrican 2
Rescue On Fractalus
Ultima IV

Armalyte, not only the best shmup on the C64 but also an incredible technical achievement
https://youtu.be/pXfq5PDt2aE?feature=shared

>>10888571
it has a keyboard, why would you need console controls?

ChatGPT

>>10888302
i tried to play some rpg games on it, but it was hard. made me miss jrpg games like dragon quest and ff series which are far better than things like wasteland and ultima and wizardary which felt like cheap copies of better jrpgs

>>10888316
I'm more of a Dizzy man myself

>>10890398

why did NTSC C64 games look so primitive? all the great graphics and sound stuff was in PAL games.

>>10894078
Because computers were serious business in NA. Only poorfags used a C64 instead of IBM PC or Apple II. If you wanted good graphics you bought a Nintendo.

>>10894078
Mostly had to do with the fact that those games also had to run on the Apple II so they couldn't do l33t hax0r programming tricks. But also because NTSC C64 are hard to do demo effects with due to the short blank.

>>10888302
Mission boot, pooping pigeon, boulderdash. My top three favorites.

>>10894245
by todays standards a c64 is pretty expensive, you can get a decent gaming pc for what the c64 with disk drive and monitor cost if you account for inflation. I don't think actual poor people got a c64 until very late.

>>10888302
Out of the recent ones I've been playing 720 skateboarding and paperboy. Wonderboy 1 and 2 are pretty good too. Sega games are pretty decent overall.

Popular ones I've heard from others are Impossible mission and r type. For how good the graphics are its easier for me think of good spectrum games which is odd.

It was funny back then that people didn't realize it was worth paying twice as much for a computer that is 10x more powerful. Weird attitude back then.

>>10894376
>Australia
And no, it was really cheap, like $150 in 1985 in the US. It was cheaper than the NES. The disk drive was expensive though, it was around the same price as the computer, although that's about as much as 4 NES games, so in the end you're saving a lot of money if you're going with C64.

>>10894376
>by todays standards a c64 is pretty expensive
The C64 was often sold at deep discounts. Jack Tramiel was a business bastard and would cut his own throat to squeeze out a competitor. Everyone I knew with a C64 got one during one of those crazy sales. And we were all rocking tape decks because nobody had the money for disc drives.

Paradroid is the only thing that personally impressed me as a kid, but I mostly played early-mid 80s crpg ports on the thing when the C64 was at the tail end of its popularity.

>>10888302
Best then or best now?
Project Stealth Fighter held up pretty well.

>>10888571
a dragon warrior 1 port could be nice. the MSX had one and it was a pretty weak machine.

It begins with Ape and ends with Craze

>>10890331
What now?

>>10894248
European games also had to run on the ZX Spectrum, so that's no excuse.

>>10895865
Not exactly. The C64 didn't share a CPU with the Spectrum so such low effort ports were generally not an issue. It did share a CPU with the Apple II so...same happened with the Amiga getting loads of lazy copypaste Atari ST ports.

>>10894376
>i dont think
that is your own problem

>>10888302

>>10895872
Even if it shared the CPU the systems were totally different, ports were essentially rewrites.

>>10898763
They could reuse a lot of code when converting from the apple ii. Some c64 ports didn't even bother to change the ghastly color schemes from the apple ii versions.

>>10899351
DataSoft were notorious for that. They always designed their games around the Apple II and would do lazy ports to Atari 8-bit and C64 where they wouldn't even bother changing the color palette. Broderbund were also a primarily Apple II-focused company.

>>10899351
>They could reuse a lot of code when converting from the apple ii
Maybe not a 'lot' and you're talking about art assets.

Law of the West
or
Robocop 3

>>10895865
tbf games that also ran on the speccy often looked like speccy games on the C64. Just look at Head over Heels or Lords of Chaos.

>>10889285
>she
Rule 30

>>10888502
Not sure what you're on about it has all the classics of the time and often the best 8-bit version.

>>10894078
PAL is higher resolution that NTSC on the C64

>>10894078
all the best coders and musicians were European. USA got the C64 off to a great start but the EU took it to another level

>>10900236
too bad they didn't really make any good games just demoshit that wasn't fun to play

>>10900051
Still good games.

>>10899351
>>10898763
There were Amiga games ported to the Mega Drive which was also easy due to the shared CPU.

>>10888302
for me? it was being 6 years old playing x-out on my older brothers c64, which was insanely hard.
>that intro
>that shop keeper

>>10903521
looks like it was ripped off from Wing Commander

>>10903457
There were more differences than similarities though. Sprites/Tiles vs. Copper Lists is a pretty big rewrite. Not to mention how many Amiga games were in C or AMOS as opposed to native 68k assembly. The prevalence of amiga -> MD ports had more to do with favorable publishing agreements and having a fast CPU more than it being a 68k. I strongly suspect if it had been an equally fast x86 or MIPS or ARM it would have seen the same level of ports.

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>>10894376
I bought that ECP game pack in the ad for my c64. Android was the best game there. Ordinary graphics but a great pre Metroidvania.

*back in the day

>>10904681
>AMOS
Very few games that weren't PD or shareware were written in this.

I like this thread

>>10898652
What was that trailblazer-like game.
It played more like a shmup with the same mechanics.
Can never figure out the name.

>>10911109
Eliminator maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFoBQiv9Ez8

Paradroid's the best one that doesn't have a superior port elsewhere and came out when the C64 was still being made.

>>10911130
Fuck yea.
Tnx anon

Below the Root is the best version of that game, followed up by Alice in Wonderland.

Trivia, the developer of those games went on to program the campy Zelda games on 3do.

>>10911141
That's the one game I keep going back to, besides Thrust.

I was hooked on Arcadia.
Honestly a pretty poor shmup but better than Space Invaders. Very challenging and having different enemy patterns every level made getting better/further addictive.

>>10911167
>3do
Cd-i?

>>10888302
tetris

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>>10888302

>>10913227
I played the DOS PC version once a long time ago.

>>10911472
CD-i.

what's best, Commodore monitor or TV as monitor?

>>10915132
Commodore/computer monitor.

>>10888302
What kinda chip you got in there? A Dorito?

>>10916406
Yeah that's what I thought. I've never used one myself, only TVs.

>>10913239
>>10913227
I played pc version in glorious CGA too. Great game for the time. How did the c64 go with the 3d?

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>>10888302
Elite of course
Skool daze for fun

Ton of great adventures too

>>10911167
I love Below the Root. And yeah the C64 version is the best.

>>10888302
cum a door, shit the floor

Wizard (Ultimate is the rerelease with more levels) is hands down one of my favorite C64 games. Even comes with a full level editor construction set.

>>10888302
I can't get enough of Hovver Bovver

>>10920209
This.
Ultimate Wizard is pure fun.

>>10903532
Wing Commander came out in 1990, unless you mean Wing Commander the flight sim. Either case they're not the same genre.

Fiendish Freddy is a fun game, I also like Fred as a game.

A good game to try if you haven't is Activision Portal, very unique experience.

Other games I like:
>Tau Ceti - different experience than the other ports
>IK+


This list speaks for itself. https://www.lemon64.com/games/votes_list.php

does the VIC20 and C64 share the same controller plug pinout?
>i made a custom controller for ViC it works with c64 with no changes needed? plug and play?
i have some nes usb donor shells and spare db9 cables its tempting

>>10888302
Trivia Monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAtGXNP5zUU

>>10921085
I think they all use the same old Atari joystick standard.