/sci/ - Science & Math

Sounds like a bullshit stereotype to be honest.
I remember seeing some documentary about schizophrenia and in it they showed artists with the disease. They were garbage, so don't worry, you probably would be too.
Do engineering if that's what you want.

Are you the same schizophrenic from the AGDG thread?
And I don't see any reason why it would hold you back from engineering, particularly.

>>5830603
which documentary?

An AMA is not even remotely /sci/ relate.
Go to r9k, it's the schizo hangout.

>>5830620
The schizo tendency for arts is a wasted talent? Wtf is going on?

>>5830644
>schizo talent for arts.
can glorius people from /sci/ show me videos?

>inb4 rules
aren't psyquiatry /sci/ related?

what kind of schizo are you OP?

paranoid, catatonic etc

>>5830666
I'm indiferentiated.
BTW is that the lesser variant?

>>5830672
>indiferentiated
yeah, undifferentiated is the best type to have. The least dangerous and the most functional. You would still have all the basic schizo symptoms but you dont fit a specific subtype of behavior. Like delusions of people conspiring against you or echolalia (repeating words, making strange rhymes and sounds with no real meaning)

whatever you do, just don't take copious amounts of hallucinogens and ruin yourself like Syd Barrett did.

>>5830679
I still talk a lot with myself when I'm walking on the street. I just feel the necesity to keep busy my brain with internet, TTC, math, game making, so I don't walk in circles and thinking about conjoined twins.

>>5830679
*one thing to add.

You can have some catatonic, disorganized or paranoid symptoms but usually they have to be severe to be diagnosed with a specific type of schizo

>>5830679
>best type to have
so I have super powers?

>>5830701
In this case, the last bad is the best

>>5830698
is catatonic like I'm on the bust and then mi neck sort of jumps or my hands?
my body does that, not too frequentely though.

>>5830598
>>mfw I ask the doctor if I should pursue an engineering degree.
>>mfw he says I'm better doing art.
Who gives a shit what your doctor thinks... If you want to learn science and engineering then go learn it. Art is nice and all, but you can do that on the side as a hobby.

>>5830705

Catatonic means non-responsive paralyzed sort of thing. No response, won't/can't move, glazed over eyes etc.

>>5830705
Catatonic schizo is really rare now and its more like mini-comas where you cant speak or move or look around you and shit. Also it involves echolalia in many people which is like saying random repeated words a in hypnotized states.. not all catatonic is like this but its the basic profile of it

what does /sci/ think of Paliperidone?

>>5830603

Yep. Doc's going with the "tortured mentally ill soul with beautiful feeeeeeeellliiiinggs" stereotype. I don't know the extent of your schizophrenia, but if you think it won't interfere in any way with your competence as an engineer, I'd say go for it.

The competency thing is pretty important. Engineers pretty much have to be certain that what they make won't kill someone... unless that's what they're TRYING to make. Then they have to be sure it kills every single time.

>>5830598
ITT: People who pretend to be "scientific" throw around terms they cannot even define, much less explain.

Not much science on this board is there.
Just a lot of moral masturbating and impotent "superiority" complexes.

I'll be back on /b/ where at least the scum are honest.

>>5830598
If you want to learn science, DO IT! Don't let some doctor give you some BS advice about schizophrenics and art.

>>5830740
We'll miss you dearly.

>>5830740
>implying honesty exists on /b/
SURE IS LE SUMMER NEWFAGGOT CANCER LE LE FEELING BUTTRUSTLED FAGGOT?

>>5830740
Psychology isnt a science. We're not trying to be scientific we're trying to help him understand his illness

>>5830760
You define science weirdly, what is the science of mental states and abnormalities of the brain? A branch of neurology?

You're trying. We're just mumbling around. The OP just wanted to know how much is the influence of schizophrenia in art but he forgot about the artists who aren't schizophrenics.

>>5830598
>mfw I ask the doctor if I should pursue an engineering degree.
>he says I'm better at doing art

wtf is he also your academic advisor or something?

Basically all the artsy types I know are schizoid at least.

Well, it's either schizo or gay.

I'm diagnosed schizoaffective. I've always done well with artistic, language, and mathematical endeavours. I love science, and I want to pursue something related to it, but my manic symptoms cause problems. I've spent roughly a decade in seclusion due to paranoia and difficulty with social situations; the only way I know to cope with it all is being completely entrenched in something that occupies my mind, be it math, science, art, or what have you.

>>5830816
Forgot to add. The autists are usually attracted to math and science.

>>5830817
You were programmed by nature for this.
Society needs to have a fucked up minority to exploit in order to have all the innovations it needs.

So you can consider yourself like part of the ritual sacrifices nature makes to keep the species going.

>>5830830

Oh, did you watch that Robert Sapolski lecture as well?

I've watched a lot of his shit trying to figure out what's wrong with me.

I'm not OP, by the way.

Why are there so many schizophrenics on /sci/?

>>5830655
>implying this is a psychiatry thread
>implying psychology is a hard science
hmmm. You probably won't find a warm welcome here.

>>5830701
Super Schitzo! Damn, you may have weird ideas but you're giving me great ones. Your superpowers are starting bad threads on the wrong board, not using /soc/ to get a feelsbadman.jpg thread, etc etc etc.

>>5830714
>who gives a shit what your doctor thinks
>oh he said i schitzo so i better act schitzo
Get a doctor who actually, you know, inspires you to figure out how to fix it. That's how you contribute to science. Figure out this tough problem,
>cure yourself or whatever
>publish papers
>???
>profit
Also, who cares if doctor says you are something or not. Instead of embracing a problem, figure out how to fix it or how to get help dealing with it. You don't hear people saying
>i'm a diabetic
>am i the good kind of diabetic?
>i haz cancer
>is it the good kind of cancer?
If your 'disease' is just as serious, you have to be the one to treat it that way.

>>5830760
>psychology isn't science
>still calls a psych disorder an 'illness'
You can't have it both ways

>>5830772
>implying your brain has to be abnormal
No, sometimes all you have to do is convince yourself something is wrong, and your body will react accordingly. That's psychology, and that's the science side of it. Pavlov, anyone? It's not neurology, neuropathy, etcetera.
Also, no, science is things that can be done empirically. Psychology is largely anecdotal at this point. Although, there is some science, just saying 'doctor said I have mental 'disorder'' doesn't exactly qualify as science. Mainly because you don't really have a test for it. We can test for high white blood cell counts. We can't test for high schitzophreniagen counts.

>>5830817
You can't get over problems you don't face. If you've got a problem dealing with people, start dealing with people if you need to change it. If you're simply reaffirming a particular behaviour.

>>5830840
Last i checked this board was an open-air asylum with diseases, mosquitoes, and stagnant water.

>>5830830
>society needs
>part of nature
Pick one.

>a minority to exploit to get change
>>>/pol/

Come back with science and we'll talk.

>>5830835
Also, don't imply that just because you don't like going out in public means people don't want you there. False cause, muthafukka.

>>5830840
There aren't. Most of them hang out on /vg/ or whatever.

>>5830844

>You can't get over problems you don't face. If you've got a problem dealing with people, start dealing with people if you need to change it. If you're simply reaffirming a particular behaviour.

Mania, paranoia, asociality, and people is not a good mix. I know, I've dealt with this since childhood.

>>5830858
>asocial
>on an imageboard being social
Hmm. Maybe that word doesn't mean what you think it does.
>manic paranoia
>4ch certainly isn't the kind of stress that would make those conditions worse...

>>5830598
True story, I developed a mental illness that I recovered out of, while doing a chemistry degree.

I obtained said chemistry degree, and not the kiddie tier chemistry either, but with a specialization in Inorganic and Computational Chemistry.

I had mediocre grades though, so I'm moving into business now, but it helped my confidence alot.

Schizophrenia doesn't prevent you from doing anything, it just adds some resistance to what your doing.

An engineering degree, with the exception of maybe chemical or electrical, is comparable in intensity to a chemistry or physics degree at full load.

You can do it if you apply yourself and just shut out social events. Which should be easy, since

1. Schizos tend not to like people; I didn't, and still don't, even though I recovered out of it.
2. You can spend your entire time studying if people avoid you because they think your crazy.

>>5830598
There was this one time that Gödel was Schizophrenic.
Just sayin'.

>>5830849
>society needs
>part of nature
>Pick one.
They aren't mutually exclusive, noob. Society IS part of nature in the human species. You can choose to go it alone, but the adjustment to that will be hard.
And yes, we have biologies evolved in such a way that society is served by exploiting trait diversification. But you're too noob to know much about all that. And I don't have patience to write the whole story and the studies which support this perspective. You will see it in the news, though, gradually, over the years.

>>5830598
>schizoprenia

Stop fucking attention whoring. This is the 9th thread you've made about yourself. Hurry up and commit suicide already!

>>5830964
>This is the 9th thread

http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5721341
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5648658
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5645150
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5620784
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5578273
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5581736
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5546954
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5540052
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5536481
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5531411
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5525100
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5515523
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5509755
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4753866
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S5051906
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4663948
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4529673
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4439055
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4356227
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4351367
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4201078
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4182422
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4147203
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3912645
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3861718
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3847078
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3832260
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3708134
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3597765
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S3483344
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S2245880
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S1202366

Make that 32+ fucking threads. /sci/ is not your live journal

>>5830598
>How much is the influence of schizophrenia in artist?

Huge. You going to need to be heavily schizo if you're going to leave your mark on the world by splattering it with human paint. I recommend you start at a nice big preschool with only one exit.

Your local wallmart should have all the 'art' supplies you need...

>>5830760
>Psychology isnt a science.
>We're not trying to be scientific we're trying to help him understand his illness
nigga pls
>>5830844

No, sometimes all you have to do is convince yourself something is wrong, and your body will react accordingly. That's psychology, and that's the science side of it. Pavlov, anyone? It's not neurology, neuropathy, etcetera.
Also, no, science is things that can be done empirically. Psychology is largely anecdotal at this point. Although, there is some science, just saying 'doctor said I have mental 'disorder'' doesn't exactly qualify as science. Mainly because you don't really have a test for it. We can test for high white blood cell counts. We can't test for high schitzophreniagen counts.

they have actually determined that schizophrenia is physiologically rooted. its appears no matter what culture or ethnicity, or hysteria (somatiform disorders is what you would call "convincing yourself something is wrong"). psychology actually covers a lot more area than somatiform disorders.

schizophrenics to not respond to talking therapies and only respond to drug treatment affecting neurotransmitters. have even studied the brains people with negative symptoms of schizophrenia and found significantly smaller frontal cortexes.

yes, we can actually see schizophrenia happening.