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How is this possible? I can do up to a gram a night of crystal. It's good stuff too, not shake n bake. I've given it to other people and they get balls to the wall insanely tweaked after half a point. I need like .25g to get high at all. i do it a few times a day.

I never have seen shadow people, while on meth. When withdrawing, I have hallucianted before bed. Also, when completely sober. Oh and before a bunch of people spout bullshit.

>I was schizo before i ever did a drug capable of causing psychosis. or any drug actually. symptoms = age 16. Drugs = age 18. Meth = age 21.

I don't get all weird on it ever. Sometimes I feel like somene is standing behind me and I have the strongest compulsion to look so I always do. But that's the extent of it. Well sometimes I check outside when a car parks at night to make sure it's not a cop. Not that bad I think. And it is posible, since I buy 10-15 year prison sentence amounts at once to save money cause im poor.

Can any of you medical students, or pharm or anyone knowledgeable on this subjcet enlighten me?

People say meth is horrible for a schizo and that it will shoot my into crazy beyond return, but ive used for years nearly daily, at half a gram or more a day. and i never had issues with my behavior.


How can I handle such heroic doses of crystal as a schizophrenic? Science based answers. Im curious to the chemicals responsible and etc...

it makes me feel happy, and normal. Not crazy insane happy like people claim, but it makes me feel human kind of. And hypersexual. I never get horny around people sober. but on meth i do. Not even 10/10 girls in person get me going IRL sober. but on meth, they do. dunno why. i think im uncomfortable with myself sober.

And....

>> No.5536484

Weed on the other hand, has caused me to have 4-5 hospitalizaton tier (If my doctor or cops found out about what I was like during these times, I would have been forced to be in the ward. I was raving paranoid bum jumping through people's backyeards hiding in trash cans and on roofs thinking feds were following me. I thought aliens were landing and about to do something to me. I thought my family wanted to enslave me and make me their tool and were controlling me somehow and that's why i was so bad at everything in life (Didnt realize it's just my schizo) and i was making adds on craigslist to sell my stuff so i could get on a train and never see my fucked family agian. a fellow schizo gave me a bunch of seroquel during this, and i came to my senses and he told me to see a doctor. thats how i found out i had it.

hallucinogens also make me trip insanely hard. people say mushrooms don't sent you into a different dimension but for me, they change everything. i am walking in a different world whne i take them. like the scenery becomes completely different like from a videogame or movie.

>> No.5536488

Nice shard OP. That's at least 4 grams.

>> No.5536508

>2013
>Doing Meth

Stay pleb OP

>> No.5536517

>>5536481
I have many of the symptoms of schizophrenia and am prescribed adderall (didn't tell the psych about the schizo symptoms lol). I feel like it grounds me, and I don't have the paranoia I usually do which is what is the most disabling for me.

>> No.5536524

>>5536508
My brain is already rotting from schizphrenia. I do not care about neurotixicity

>> No.5536525

>>5536517
Yeah I tried adderall too. Same thing. I know a lot of schizophrenics that do meth.

>> No.5536526

>>5536484
Shrooms for me does the same as you're describing at a decent dose (3g). Everything seems new and foreign, kinda like I'm a kid again.

>> No.5536528

>>5536526
yeah i do 3.5g or more always. what is it like for most peole? they say they don't get complete mind blowing visual changes

>> No.5536547

>>5536528
I didn't see visuals (open eyed ones), at least not anything beyond subtle shape shifting. But still everything seems completely different...as you probably know it's hard to put it into words though.

>> No.5536566

The causes of schizophrenia are poorly understood.

Evidently, medications for schizophrenia work by suppressing dopamine receptor activity. Chronic doses of meth can lead to downregulation of dopamine receptors to compensate for the high levels and persistence of dopamine in the synapse. If high dopaminergic activity actually causes psychotic episodes, you may have increased your threshold by reducing the number of receptors. Long term high dose use can still lead to amphetamine psychosis but that's probably through a different mechanism (neurotoxicity or something like that).

Another thing to note. From the 'Pedia

"The extent of tolerance and the rate at which it develops vary widely between individuals, and even within one person. It is highly dependent on dosage, duration of use, and frequency of administration."

Like with everything, you're a snowflake just like everyone else.

>> No.5536586

>>5536566
If schizophrenia is an issue of there being too much dopamine released then why aren't they all really happy all the time?

>> No.5536599

>>5536566
Well why won't my doctor believe me when I tell him it doesn't make me crazy? Should I shoot up a herois dose in front of him then see what he does? What would a doctor do if I did that.

>> No.5536604

>>5536481
HA. Enjoy your hardcore addiction problems OP.

>>5536508
This.

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5536615

>>5536599
>Well why won't my doctor believe me when I tell him it doesn't make me crazy?

>> No.5536625

>>5536615
well it doesn't. i think the same exact things sober and on meth. im more social on it, only difference. and actually enjoy life.

so? why the condescending reaction image?

>> No.5536628

>>5536586

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-factor_theory_of_emotion

dopamine doesn't equate to happy. There are other things that are required in order to have a pleasurable subjective experience.

>> No.5536635

>>5536625
Because nothing good ever comes from its usage in the long term.

If being anti-social is your only problem, I promise you, that you can work through that while sober.

What about weed? Does that make you more social? I know it does for me. If so, just smoke weed. Meth ain't fucking worth it.

>> No.5536641

>>5536599

>doesn't make me crazy

> Sometimes I feel like somene is standing behind me

> I have hallucianted before bed

>spout bullshit

Meth disrupts your cognitive faculties. Are you really the best person to judge if you're crazy or not considering your first post describes psychotic behavior?

>> No.5536648

OP is a faggot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVEulrvBwsA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Have fun being a faggot.

>> No.5536839

>>5536635
you didnt read my post, and you're just spewing bullshit. i said what weed does. you chose to willingly ignore that, or are just blindly saying "HURR WEED GOOD" like an idiot

>> No.5536843

>>5536641
Apparently your cognitive ability is effected worse. I said when I'm off meth, I hallucainte when bed. Withdrawing = 2-14 days after last dose. Not the come down.

Ive never visually hallucinated when high, or coming down. Only when no meth was in my system

>> No.5536847

sad

>> No.5536852

>>5536635
Work through schizophrenic negative symptoms when sober?

Bro, do you even know schizophrenia is more than hearing voices?

OP has autism level social deficits possibly. Not the same presentation, but schizophrenics can be severely socially inept in their own way. And they get dumb, unlike some autists.

>> No.5536858

>>5536481
>2013
>still shooting meth
OP you could've turned your life around and at least got a girlfriend of decent job. Now your teeth look like a picket fence, after we dropped a nuke, in Hiroshima. 10/10 for literally disposing of yourself.

>> No.5536861

Hi OP.
I have no idea why.
I'm diagnosed schizo as well, and meth was always my drug of choice. It never made me paranoid, in fact it calmed my paranoia. Likewise it slowed auditory hallucinations and other fun delusions. Very nice stuff.

I never got horny on it though unless I drank a shitload of alcohol at the same time. Mostly meth shriveled my junk and made it impossible to get hard.

but if it works for you, carry on. It'll kill you someday though.

>> No.5536870

>>5536861
It used to shrink my cock but, this dope from my new dealer doesn't really do that. It's pure euphoria, energy, and hyper focused hypersexuality.

I think pure d-meth has little vaso construction. My heart doesn't pound on this dope either. But I get insanely powerful orgasms.

>> No.5536871

>>5536858
What's fun about working when nothing is enjoyable in life. Why do i care about a decent job when i have no hobbies, dont want a family, women dont want me, or etc...?

Just to be a good drone? Fuck that man.

ive got all my teeth. and look my age. i usually sleep every or every other night

>> No.5536877

>>5536871
Working gives you a sense of responsibility whether you work for yourself or someone else. And what the fuck makes you think you can just be free? Everyone should contribute to society to have freedom.

>> No.5536880
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>>5536871
here's a short message from your future self.

>> No.5536883

>>5536877
Why should one have to earn freedom? Is freedom not free, but a reward for 'contribution'?

>> No.5536888

>>5536628
brah, have you ever blocked dat uptake? not OP. but i swear to god ive never been happier than I am on amphetamines.

too bad it's not sustainable, ruins your relationships, makes you talk and get distracted, gives you horrific tunnel vision and is terrible for your heart, otherwise i'd get my hands on some sort of amphetamine every day.

the methyl though... i wouldn't want that. id probably never try methamphetamines.

>> No.5536933

>>5536883
I agree with you, but I feel that living a life with nothing but short-term pleasure and no long-lasting achievement is a depressing existence.

You should take pleasure in learning/creating. You have no obligation to contribute to any corporation or government, but you do have an obligation to be the greatest human being that you can possibly be, even if it is meaningless in the end. Would you rather just allow yourself to slowly die away, leaving no legacy behind?

>> No.5536946

>>5536933
I have no desire to create or anything. I get pleasure from few things in life. Eating, sexual release, and drugs. Pretty much it.

i used to enjoy completing challenges, but after schizo, i enjoy very little.

>> No.5536952

>>5536946
such a hedonist for all that anhedonia.
have you tried lighting fires? torturing kittens? public nudity?
never know what might give you a thrill.

>> No.5536960

>>5536481

Hi OP, I think it's awesome that you're doing meth, and no one should try to justify why you should or shouldn't use it. If I were you I'd just push the pedal to the metal and go totally balls- out on it. If it's making you happy, do it!

>> No.5536971

>>5536952
i dont get pleasure out of hurting people. im not a cruel man. i dislike causing animals pain. i like being nice to them.

schizo =/= psychopath

>> No.5536990

>>5536566
>>5536615
>>5536635
>>5536641
>>5536858

please see
>>5536862