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I think it's all bullshit. Wake up sheeple, mental disorders aren't real.

schizo, yea right stop being an attention craving bitch

"I'M SCHIZO AND BIPOLAR, I'M LIKE A LIL' CRAZY YOU KNOW"

yup, you and every 14 year old emo fat girl.

It's not that far fetched, as long as you're capable of some kind of placebo you could probably get rid of your mental illness with some mental power. Of course you're just a pussy ass weak manlet who can't do shit and is dumb as hell.

I also like to suck cock so what do I know..

>>4351379
No. I have different voices in my head that insult me and fuel my paranoia because i become unable to differentiate them from my own thoughts.

I've had psychotic breaks where I hid in my atic for 36 hours straight with only 2 bottles of water, my 1911, and my mossburg because I was convinced the van out my house was DEA and they were going to rush into my house and murder me.

>>4351380
>>4351379
>>4351376
7/10

I raged slightly.

>>4351380
As a med student this post makes me sad. Not sure if troll.

Actually in cognitive and behavioral therapies it has been found that your general disposition can actually influence the degree of your phases.

If you really made the effort to chill and think that everything is fine and you are just a bit grumpy and really embraced this state of mind, pushing for happiness, you'd generally feel better.

tl;dr you feel better if you sort of forget about it

Honestly I don't see why if people can be born with deformed arms and limbs and shit-- why it's not possible to also be born with brain malfunctions such as schizophrenia..

>>4351367
most people have never felt awful feelings like you have, so they don't understand them. When they feel bad, they probably just wave it away and feel better. It's not that she's stupid, she just doesn't understand.

>>4351388
Well until you start having more of these breaks of yours, and your problem become more obvious, nobody is really gunna take you seriously,

so your in class, apparently functioning perfectly fine, someone asks whats up your ass-l'm crazy and super sad what do you think-

course you're gunna be lol'd at, and not be taken seriously, the girl is not gunna understand and nobody else should either

man OP, shit must be hell.
I most likely have something abnormal with me. My moods fluctuate like crazy over the smallest of things.. I'll be on top of cloud 9 one second, then down in a hole the next.

I can get quite anxious.. like, hearts about to explode, sweating a storm.

I'm not sure if its BPD or Bipolar or if its anything more other than me being just and intense guy.

hang in there man

>>4351400
Nope. The depressive phases really feel creepily similar to a HORRIBLE meth come down. The only thing that makes me feel better are opiates, meth, and coke.

If you're done these drugs you'll understand how shitty it feels.

she thinks your crazy its just her way of being polite

lol imagine asking someone in your class what's up and they're like "IM FUCKING SCHIZOPHRENIC AND DEPRESSED STAY AWAY FROM ME!!" i'd run for the hills.

enjoy your fail, fail op

>>4351451
this. there are some things that you should keep to yourself OP

>>4351445

lol and now you admit you're a drug user. getting strung out and acting weird != mental illness. quit being a faggot, op. everyone's crazy.

>>4351451

if someone said that to me, I'd find them fascinating and become their best friend

>>4351460
60-80% of schizophrenics have substance abuse problems to cope with symptoms.

These symptoms started when I was 16, before I ever had alcohol

>>4351460
60-80% of schizophrenics have substance abuse problems to cope with symptoms.

These symptoms started when I was 16, before I ever had alcohol or drugs

OP, I don't know if I'll be able to communicate this properly or if it will work or be understood or whatever but I'll try anyway. It helped with my own anxiety and panic attacks.

Try and be aware of your own mind, and its state. Usually, people go about their day physically without really thinking about their mind, and letting it subconsciously do everything. Try and consciously be aware of your mind (kind of like forced depersonalization / de-realization). Be aware of changes (anxiety, emotions, paranoia), be aware of its neutral state, and realize it's actually a lot more simple than it seems. That might make you feel more in control or understanding of your mind, and therefore less worried or scared when it gets disorganized in your phases; hopefully you'll be aware of its state, compare it to its neutral state, and by being aware of the thinking reduce the effects it has on you. I'm not trying to say you can stop yourself feeling paranoid, but you can kind of ignore those feelings of paranoia, or boil them down to realize what they essentially are, and reduce their impact on your behaviour and prevent a snowball effect where it makes you feel even more paranoid and shit.

Let me know if that helped at all. It made sense in my own head. I reduce my own anxiety by doing that and trying to "observe" my mind and thoughts as a spectator, instead of experiencing them.

Lighten up, biochemistry doesn't cover much clinical stuff if you pick certain modules.

Anyway, I flew home today and this is what happened at security:
>Tension headaches
>Take prophylactic amitryptiline
>Always carry at least 30 pills when I travel
>Officer asks me if I have a prescription
>Not with me
>They may have to confiscate them
>"You do know that amitriptyline is an antipsychotic, don't you?"
-"What?"
>"Do you really someone on a plane who hasn't taken their antipsychotic medication?"

After a quick chat with the duty doctor they gave them back.

>>4351472

i'm just trolling you, op. don't think because you have a mental illness you deserve special treatment. faggot.

oh come on just suck it up fucker

but seriously how can you pass university with bp and schizo, how can you get through if you fall into deep depression and can't do shit from time to time

>>4351513
are you just one person trolling the thread

>>4351513
I was one of those kids who had a 4.5 GPA in high school with out studying. Then when my symptoms hit it went down to a 3.0. I have a 3.5-2.5 each semester in college.

I have a lot of problems with math though now. I got an A in AP HS calc, but i failed college algebra, I can't seem to think as well any more.

>>4351367
Opinion: Sucks to be you, People are lovable idiots.

>>4351534
why were you doing algebra in college when you had already done calculus?

>>4351560
I didnt have math for years and forgot a lot of it.

you are not suicidal and you do okay in school. what's your problem?

Bipolar guy here. OP I feel your pain, it is cute how a lot of people don't like to think that they aren't masters of their emotions. Tell them "your mood is largely based on chemicals and if they are imbalanced or the receptors are wonky then you don't show appropriate emotions for appropriate situation. That is a sickness" and they just don't understand. Well it isn't their fault.

Mental illness IS bullshit and all it takes is willpower

When the fuck did mental illnesses become cool and hip?

I blame A Beautiful Mind.

>>4352158
I don't think anyone thinks schizophrenia is cool. or wants it.

How big of a part do you think stimulants played in the decay of your mental state?

Because I think my amphetamine abuse is having serious detrimental effects on my psyche.

Solution: stop using stimulants.

>>4352173
I can't be sure. My cognitive abilities have been slowly declining regardless of my stimulant use. I used to use meth daily 5 days a week but i slowed down a lot. I don't think it fucked with my head that much. Weed makes me more paranoid than that every did.

>>4352166
>schizophrenics have more friends than me, even imaginary.

>>4352183
I'll stop using stimulants once doctors give me a medication that removed the negative symptoms such as diminished ability to feel pleasure, lack of motivation, and nearly constant depression.

SSRIS dont work. Neither do MAOIs, or the other type. SNRI does not work either, I've literally been on every single one of them because my old psyc was a cunt and refused to give me xanax for my anxiety associated with paranoia.

well you can use pure willpower to get rid of some mental diseases like OCD. In your case, that would be much much harder if not impossible.

>>4352185

> used to use meth daily 5 days a week
> thinks it doesn't have much to do with positive symptoms

stop smoking so much weed

>>4351367
OP, you just have low levels of 5-HT in your brain.

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

>>4352195
I had them before I used meth bro. I only started using meth because I stopped giving a fuck about my health due to symptoms

I don't think she meant any harm. I've been told the same.

I once confronted the girl who said it and she simply admitted to me that she is aware of the condition and didn't mean to insult it; she just wanted to cheer me up/make me laugh, even through ignorance.

After thinking about it a bit and not trying to take it so seriously, I saw what she was doing. It's a stupid way of trying to make someone happy/laugh, but it's the thought that counts.

I had a similar thing happen to me but with my friends. When I explain to them my problems (Bipolar/GAD/SAD/OCD) and having psychotic breakdowns, they look at me and go "Really? You are prefectly and so nice and sweet. You can't have those problems".

Yes I can act normal but fuck I just making up those problems right?

Also my aunt is conviced I'm throwing tantrums when I have my psychotic breakdowns and anxiety attacks.

Thinking soberly about mental illness is very difficult for humans because we've evolved/learned to treat "subjects" and "objects" as different types of things. For the most part this is an economical strategy - eg, "John wants ice cream and believes he can get it at the store" is a far less intractable predictor, at the macro level, than "That there bunch atoms are in such and such a configuration and obeying so-and-so laws of interaction".

Mental illness, however, violates our habitual expectations of how "subjects" and their minds work. The most readily available responses are to think of it as a completely broken automaton ("crazy like those homeless people") lacking in real subjectivity, or just the same thing they're used to ("it's all in your mind" / "be happy").

>Paranoid
>Depressed
>cocaine or meth
Great mixture, OP. That sure as hell wouldn't drastically increase your paranoia and depression

>>4354234
shut up faggot, people with serious conditions like that need some sort of coping mechanism, who the fuck are you to judge??

John Forbes Nash, the game theory guy the film "a beautiful mind" was based off was completely nuts.

Spent a lot of his life in hospitals. When he wasnt he was doing math. For years he lied about the fact that he conquered his mental problems with medication. It wasnt until the 90s I think that he admitted he was never on medication, and that he simply conquered his delusional thinking.

Just an anecdote. I dont mean to claim OP can conquer his mental problems in such a way.

With that said I have met a lot of mentally disturbed individuals. Bipolar, depressed, schziophrenic. It seems like the schziophrenics I have met actually suffer the most. They dont want to be that way and they are happy or functional. Besides that, I almost consider depression a luxurious disorder. The people I know on anti depressants are lazy, unmotivated, and uncreative. Anti-depressants have just made people content, and its an unfortunate consequence I believe.

Sometimes I feel paranoid as well OP. But then I think about how small and insignificant I am, and just how self centered and narcissistic it is that I think anyone cares about me. I think about how if I simply vanished, nobody but my immediate family would notice or care, and even they would probably get over it within a month or two. Realizing my worthlessness, I'm able overcome my paranoia. It does make me feel a little more depressed though. That leads to more rumination and self loathing, but at least I'm not paranoid.

>>4354246
Also, quit being a whiny little faggot.
You sound like a 16 yearold

>>4354246
Blow it out your ass.
I have depression and am borderline alcoholic because of it.
And from my personal experience with stimulants I know that they sure as hell don't take away paranoia, they cause it. And if you're taking meth or cocaine to get high you're likely to permanently decrease the supply of happy chemicals in your brain

>>4354263

>I am an alcoholic
>decrease the supply of happy chemicals

>>4354272
I dumbed it down for you because you sound like a moron and wouldn't know what serotonin is.

>>4354263
>you're likely to permanently decrease the supply of happy chemicals in your brain
well...you're clearly a retard who has no fucking idea how neurobiology works.

>I have depression and am borderline alcoholic because of it.
>"i'm a sad fuck with no life and i just drink all day because im an uncreative fuck who cant think of anything better to do with my time"
FTFY

>>4354268
eat shit

>>4354279
>implying that's me

Can't get rid of it, but you sure fucking can detach yourself from its effects.

>>4354279

I am not the guy you replied to.

Calling serotonin "the happy chemical" is an abuse regardless of how simple you want to convey the idea.

There is only a correlation between low serotonin and depression. Its an injustice to think that the brain is malfunctioning and we need to fuck around with serotonin.

Is it not plausible that something is upsetting this person and making this person, and their perfectly functional brain depressed? Perhaps something beyond the understanding of the individual in question.

Its like saying a lack of steroids is a biological dysfunctional that causes weak pasty white kids who dont even lift.

>Dear diary ...
also
>I have mental problems look at me look at me! It means I'm a special unique snow flake so I take any opportunity I can to tell people about it

>>4354294
Most of the time it's just some fucked up cognitive thought loop that the dumb fuck has gotten themselves into.

>>4354301
And here come the social scientists.

>>4354301

Yes I think so.

I mean, I know a lot of people with mental disorders, and its really awful. I have been put on anti depressants myself (when I was too young to object).

I cant tell anyone definitively that its just them being stuck in some cognitive irrationality or something. Its not right for me to delegitimize someone else's suffering.

But I do think if people stopped, slowed down, thought hard and rationally about their problems and desires, we could conquer a lot of the psychological stresses people suffer from today.

>>4354318
yeah, for sure, and some how developed some confidence.

>>4354294

I use plenty of steroids. For my eczema.

I remember a class mate I once had.
She took every opportunity she had to tell you she had autism or one of the various dysfunctions or illnesses she had.
>Hi, person.
I have autism
>Teacher asks her what 1 + 1 is
I have autism and blah blah blah
>Sitting near by working, not saying a word
Hey, did you know I have autism?
.
Reminds me a lot of you, OP.
I when she got home she started threads about how she was telling people she has autism just like you are doing now.

Bipolar disorder runs in the males in my family. I'm fortunate that I have not displayed any symptoms. Sometimes mental illness is purely a psychological matter, but when it comes to hereditary illnesses, that shit's in your genetics. It's a physiological matter that you have no conscious control over. All you can do is take medication to help counter the imbalance.

A lot of people assume you diagnosed yourself with any mental condition you tell them, a lot of people think most diagnoses are BS. I'm sure you're a lot more normal than you think and that's why she was surprised or skeptical.

I guess the closest analogy I could draw would be smoking pot, which idk if you do... But whenever I smoke, I KNOW everyone thinks I'm high, it freaks me out and all. The thing is it's 100% in my head, I've had people be surprised when I told them I was.

I'm sure you view yourself as far stranger than you actually are.

>>4354930
>I'm sure you view yourself as far stranger than you actually are.
i hope thats fucking true, because i feel REALLY FUCIG STRANGE a lot of the time...