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I have a pretty serious mental illness. Due to this, I have trouble relating to most women. The only girl I've connected with also is mentally ill. I don't desire children since I have problems connecting to people, I'd make a horrible distant father. This girl wants kids. Also, I'm pretty sure if we both have schizo, kids would as well. I wouldn't want to give anyone this illness.

Is it best for me to let my genes die out? I'm handsome and intelligent, but tweaked in the head. Also a drug addict.

>> No.3912650

mental illnesses don't exist, you're just acting like a victim.
You're gonna come back soon and telling us you're gay or sth.
Man up, dude.

>> No.3912651

Let them die out.

>> No.3912653

what is your mental illness?

is it very hereditary?

some are not

>> No.3912654

>>3912650
So I don't hear shit or get paranoid delusions? Oh wait.

>> No.3912658

>>3912653
Paranoid Schizophrenia. Girl has Schizoaffective disorder or paranoid schizophrenia depending on the doctor she talks to.

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>>3912650
>mental illnesses don't exist

>> No.3912669

This is simple. Do you want kids or not? If you don't, let your genes "die out". Also, if she really wants kids she'll probably end up breaking up with you.

>> No.3912676

Psych major reporting in.
There's quite a high chance that the kid will also have schizophrenia.
>hearing voices and shit
Are you sure it's not just the drugs man?
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dopamine_hypothesis_of_schizophrenia

>> No.3912684

>>3912676
Seeing as I started using drugs after the symptoms started, yes. I was straight edge before. Then I become so unhappy due to my symptoms I started using opiates and meth.

>> No.3912686

Let them die. We don't need more crazies.

>> No.3912691

>>3912660
prove me wrong. Prove "mentaly ill people" aren't just attention whores like EK.

>> No.3912702

>>3912691
because even when alone they are deeply ill

>> No.3912705

>>3912691
prove oranges aren't writing desks

>> No.3912710

>>3912702
then they should stop to be that way.
When I'm sad, I stop being sad and be happy instead.
When I'm ill, I stop being ill and be healthy instead. Not so fucking hard.

>> No.3912712

>>3912686

Well, a lot of those crazies are very creative individuals which is a good trait. If you don't believe me google mental illness and creativity.

>> No.3912718

>>3912691
> bring up EK all the time
> EK is an attention whore
haha oh wow

>> No.3912717

>>3912691
Brain lesions are found in some people with schizophrenia. As well as changes in the mass of grey matter in frontal lobes.

That attention whoring too?

>> No.3912716

>>3912684
Yeah there's a 50% chance that the kid will also have it
However genes aren't everything, you'll need some kind of trigger like stress or something which combines with the underlying genetic predisposition to actually produce symptoms.

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>>3912710
>mfw

>> No.3912738

it's not your genes. it's your horribly abusive parents.

inb4 stockholm syndrome "they were great".

no they weren't. separate and get a psychologist.

>> No.3912748

>>3912710
get out in the real world and meet someone who is genuinely seriously mentally ill, rather than being some inexperienced dunning kruger underaged fool.

>> No.3912757

Yea dude, schizophrenia is a terrible disease, you shouldn't have kids. It is so tragic when a bright & happy child is on the verge of adulthood and instead of blooming into a functional adult they instead become afflicted with hallucinations and fear. If I were you I would have a vasectomy.

>> No.3912760

If it was just about bad genes I'd say to go for it, but because of your circumstances neither of you would be likely to make good parents. Children of parents with substance abuse problems or mental illnesses generally become fucked up and miserable. My mother did part of her medical internship at an emergency mental department and the vast majority of patients were either substance abusers or grew up in homes with mentally ill or substance abusing parents.

>> No.3912766

>>3912710
I hope you get cancer.

>> No.3912774

>>3912766
He mad

>> No.3912785

>guy says mental illness is fake
>people actually tell him he's an idiot
I'm actually pleasantly surprised by this

>> No.3912790

>>3912710

Holy shit are you serious

Schizophrenia causes a fundamental alteration in neurological chemistry and has been determined to be at least partially genetic

>> No.3912799

>>3912790
> implying people in medicine know how to use statistics
didn't we just go over this

>> No.3912812

>>3912790
What a convenient excuse to behave like an attention whoring child.

>> No.3912834

>>3912812

who's a good little troll..

>> No.3912866

>>3912834
One can only hope that it is but then again some people actually believe this

>> No.3912911 [DELETED] 

Same here, except I'm not interested in having children, I do all kinds of weird shit, for instance, if a friend gives me a condom as a gift I check if he poked holes in it, or when people offer me food or free stuff I assume it has been tampered with OR the person just did some kind of investment. I'm 25 and I never managed to be attached to my parents or any other person, I just have 'distant' friends and I use them for my advantage while looking as a generous person. I'm a white collar criminal, I tried to commit suicide once, I can't even enjoy sex (even though I've been with over 30 women), I feel terribly awkward after orgasming, it is truly a terrible way to live, but I don't know any better.

Anyone who says these illnesses are just made up disorders, is clearly an imbecile or a troll. Personally, There's still a part of me that refuses to subject someone to the same kind of life, honestly? I'd say don't have kids. I cry and curl up in a fetal position 2 or 3 times a year without really knowing why, I'll probably just kill myself in the near future, no point in subjecting others to this style of life if there's even only a 30% of the genes being passed on.

>> No.3912912

>>3912705
Suppose oranges were writing desks, then by definition an orange acts as a compact office. In particular it must facilitate writing upon. But oranges have a smaller flat space than the size of any piece of paper and therefore do facilitate writing upon - a contradiction. Hence oranges are not writing desks.

>> No.3912915

OP here. I'm the same way bro. Except I've only been with 3 girls who I didn't pay for. The rest were prostitutes. I assume people fuck with me constantly. Makes it hard to enjoy life.

You diagnosed?

>> No.3912922

No, breed.

>> No.3912924

Is it schizophrenia?

They all have variable levels of heritability.

What is your IQ?

>> No.3912931

>>3912924
I was in an advanced program for gifted kids as a child that required an IQ tested above 130. had a test by a psyc and all that.

However, as I got older it got harder to focus and use logic and I score around 110 now.

>> No.3912933

Schizophrenia has pretty distinct psychological advantages. If we were still nomadic/huntergatherer/non-sedentary peoples, having schiz would be highly highly functional.

But ehh, we aren't. Don't call it an illness though, it's just a condition-- a condition mostly unfavorable today.

>> No.3912939

>>3912933
I've noticed I excel at drug dealing and fail at normal jobs. My paranoia makes it so that I never get fucked over and am overly cautious.

>> No.3912942

>>3912931
The heritability for adult IQs is higher than childhood IQs, so I would bet your genetic IQ is around 110. Which is quite good. Yes, go ahead and breed.

>> No.3912945

> Is it best for me to let my genes die out?
How do you benefit from commiting genetic suicide?
You don't.
Your genes as shitty as they are managed to survive for untold billions of years, yet they die with you. YOU are the failure if you do not breed, not your genes.

Go out there and pass down your shitty genes. In time with the proper breeding they may become less shitty, but that is up to you and your descendants.

>> No.3912958

>>3912939
Consider a life in an earlier time, when you'd reach adolescence, break from the small nomadic band that raised you and venture off to spread your seed away from your own people (as most great apes do today.)

Consider the risks of survival as you explore the world alone, the hostilities with which other bands might approach you (perceiving you as a threat), the fight for territory and resources with other young adult males who've done the same as you.

No stores, no schools, just you, the unexplored earth, and the threats against your survival. Who's going to have a harder time functioning in that world? Who's going to have a harder time psychologically coping with the harshness of that world? Not the schiz

>> No.3913303

>>3912958
It's funny that schizophrenia starts at adolescents for men.