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Hey /sci/

I made a thread about schizo a bit ago. Well I missed my class to get diagnosed and missed a test. My professor is refusing to let me make it up. I have a note saying I am diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia and my doctor wrote (lied) i was having a psychotic break to make my professor seem like a huge fucking asshole if he didn't let me make the test up.

Can I sue this mother fucker or talk to the dean or something? This has to be illegal. I will fail because I got treatment for fucking schizophrenia. The professor is head of the department so I can't go above his head there. It was a Calc test I missed.

>seek medical help
>professor spits in my face
>mfw

I'm getting really angry and stressed and getting paranoid again.

>> No.3861750

>>3861718
I would talk to the dean, but perhaps first you should talk to the doctor that diagnosed you.

Since you have been diagnosed, would you be willing to tell me some of the symptoms you have?
You have mentioned you are beginning to get paranoid again, so I am guessing you have symptoms that fall under the "paranoid schizophrenia" umbrella.

>> No.3861765

>>3861750
When it gets bad, i think people laughing are belittling me, ridiculing me. I think cops are after me when campus police walk by. I think they will plant drugs on me or shoot me. I feel like people are watching me or following me often. Cameras freak me out.

Also, I have conversations with people I know in my head. They belittle me, make fun of me, plan to hurt me/screw up my life. I can't tell if that's what they really think, or if I am being paranoid. Makes it hard to get close to people. I'm a loner due to it.

Stress makes me worse. What could my doctor do?

>> No.3861788

Bump

>> No.3861794

>>3861765

I would say to go to the dean, tell him, and gie him the doctor's phone number.

>> No.3861811

>>3861794
How much shit will my professor get in for doing this when I have proof? I want to get him in trouble. I hate the fucker right now. I'd torch his fucking Mercedes if my universities parking lot wasn't littered in cameras.

>> No.3861812

Talk to your academic counselor first. Then talk to the dean of students if your counselor isn't able to get the prof to give you the makeup.

Don't be ashamed of going to either one of them. That's what they get paid to do: make sure your time at the University is productive.

>> No.3861820

>>3861765
That all sounds pretty normal to me. I have experienced the same and I wouldn't consider myself paranoid.

>> No.3861826

>>3861820
Maybe you need to see a doctor. Those are schizophrenic symptoms.

>> No.3861832

Behave weird and erratic around you professor, stare at him while he's walking towards the classroom.....when he looks at you put your hands in your ears and muble, if he asks you something be completely terrified and muble "leave me please".... stalk him in the parking lot... he'll definately pass you with an A+, i would.

>> No.3861836

>>3861826
I don't think so. It's not like I'm hallucinating.

>> No.3861840

OP you deserve to fucking fail. please kill yourself.

i'm raging so hard at your post, and because these other faggots are actually giving you advice.


oh my fucking god i'm reading your other posts.

get the fuck out of college, you piece of shit

>> No.3861842

>>3861836
Hallucinations are not a requirement. They are RARE and only in extreme cases. Mental illness is a scale. Some people have more symptoms than others.

I thought I was completely normal too and just a nervous wreck until I met a girl who had schizophrenia. She began telling me about her thoughts and I was like "Oh I have those too". Then she told me they are not normal. I never told anyone about them so I thought everyone had them.

Then I saw a doctor and was diagnosed.

>> No.3861853

>>3861842
I could never trust a doctor. If I tell him too much, maybe he is gonna let them lock me up.

>> No.3861855

Bipolarfag here. I've experienced some pretty extreme paranoia before myself. Thinking back about my worst manic episode I can't really understand what was real or what I invented. It doesn't help that it was all triggered by taking LSD and cannabis at the same time. For several days it felt like the entire world was playing a trick on me for their amusement. I still have flashbacks. I wonder if I have some PTSD associated with this particular incident.

>> No.3861858

>>3861840
He deserves to fail for getting treatment for -schizophrenia-? Somethings take priority over class. Obviously this is one of them.

Really? Are you brain damaged?

>> No.3861865

>>3861826
I'm not that guy or OP but i have the discussions in my head with people I know thing.

I guess the only difference is that I know that's not what they really think and I'm not belittling myself through it, just guessing how they'd response if I told them that based on what I know of them.

>> No.3861867

>>3861765
So it's of the paranoid "the world is watching me and out to get me" type, rather than the paranoid "the voices in my head are telling me to go murder the president" variety. Thanks for sharing. I really hope you can re-take your test, OP. >>3861812
has some good suggestions too.


>Also, I have conversations with people I know in my head. They belittle me, make fun of me, plan to hurt me/screw up my life. I can't tell if that's what they really think, or if I am being paranoid. Makes it hard to get close to people.
Just like many other psychological disorders, everyone experiences these things to some degree. When it begins interfering with daily life (as you have stated, as it makes it hard to get close to people, and you are having trouble discriminating between what their in-your-head representation thinks and what the person actually thinks)

>>3861826
>>3861836
(see above about the manifestation of symptoms)

I hear voices in my head all of the time. Always have. But it's never interfered with anything, other than periodically destroying my self-worth, and so it has never really affected me.

>> No.3861876

>>3861865
I do have SAD, or at least I think I do, I've never had it diagnosed.

>> No.3861879

>My professor is refusing to let me make it up

Read your fucking syllabus. They never allow make up exams--ever.

>> No.3861883

Wait a minute, I have conversations with people I know in my head, but they usually go well. When people laugh around me, and I've been ridiculous around them before, I usually assume they're laughing at me, but it doesn't really make me mad because I like to act ridiculous sometimes.

is this schizophrenia?

>> No.3861885

You should at least be able to drop the class without penalty for medical reasons.

>> No.3861891

>>3861883
GTFO, normalfag.

>> No.3861897

>>3861879
>implying they wouldn't allow a make-up for getting pneumonia and having to go to the hospital.

Medical things are probably the only exception to "NO MAKE-UPS EVER"

>> No.3861901

>>3861879

i was just about to say that

OP: YOU NIGGAHHHH


it probably says "if you have a valid excuse i will TRANSFER THE WEIGHT to the final"

if the test was already written, then you could talk to people in the class to find out what you need to know etc etc etc etc... solutions posted? don't matter.

it's how it works, don't expect special treatment.

there are ACTUAL disabled people who never miss test days.

and why the fuck wouldn;t you go and talk to your prof in person in advance?

i assume the test was on the syllabus.

ps for all college courses everywhere in general: what's written on the syllabus is pretty much set in stone, unless prof accidentally scheduled something on a holiday, or a typo.

no special treatment faget

>> No.3861905

>>3861897
The prof would have to make a new exam just for you. Because otherwise you can just go to your friend and have him tell you the questions (or worse, they already handed back the test). Fat chance.

>> No.3861906

>>3861883
Everyone has slight symptoms of any mental disorder. It is when these symptoms begin to interfere with daily life that it becomes a disorder.

>> No.3861914

Ahem. I hear this shit a lot. Outside of school, in the real world. If you miss a meeting to go to the doctor, then you missed it. Plan around your obligations op. That's how the world really works. Stop crying and raging about it.

>> No.3861919

>>3861897

different bro. and no not even. THEY DON'T DO MAKE-UPS.

if you have a VALID EXCUSE (op's excuse is flimsy as shit anyway), like being in a car accident or dying, then they will TRANSFER WEIGHT.

no make-ups for ANYONE for ANY REASON, in general

>> No.3861926

OP BETTER PREPARE HIS ANUS FOR THE FINAL

AND DOES YOUR SCHOOL HAVE A PROGRAM FOR THE DISABLED OR MENTALLY FUCKED?

IF SO, AND YOU'RE NOT IN IT, GOOD LUCK BRO

>> No.3861938

>>3861914
As someone with a mental illness who takes great care to meet his commitments, that simply isn't possible some of the time. Before I was treated I could hardly manage to feed myself and perform basic hygiene, let alone meet my obligations at school.

>> No.3861943

>>3861919
>Unless superseded by a valid excuse a missed exam will result in a zero. Valid excuses are officially sanctioned UF events, medical excuses or family emergencies. Acceptable excuses will require a coach's, doctor's or instructor sanctioned note with a verifiable contact phone number. The documentation must be provided to your instructor within 2 weeks of the missed exam or a rational reason that it will be delayed must be e-mailed along with the projected receipt date of the documentation within those 2 weeks. A valid excuse will allow you to take the cumulative make-up exam to replace the zero on the missed exam. There will be one cumulative make-up exam (covering material from both during-term exams) given at the end of the semester (date and time t.b.d.) at a mutually agreeable time.
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy2049/f11/grading.shtml

Depends on the university and the class, but typically professors provide an out for extenuating circumstances.

>> No.3861940

>>3861919
Flimsy? If he is getting paranoid delusions he likely cannot focus worth shit and is at risk of becoming psychotic and you know, becoming one of those school shooters or seriously harming himself or others.

Especially with that kid Jared whatever, recently. The dean will FREAK THE FUCK OUT.

>> No.3861945

>>3861938
I understand that it isn't always possible. But you also can't expect the rest of the world to sit and wait for you to come running to meet the pack.

>> No.3861948

I thought most professors dropped the lowest test grade anyway.

>> No.3861951

>>3861948
Oh, I wish.

>> No.3861955

>>3861943

LOL 2 WEEKS HOLY SHTI

my university's policy is 48 hours from the hour of the exam (standard)

i guess if you're in the hospital for a week they use common sense, but if your excuse makes you able to get to them within 48 hours and you don't enjoy your fail

>> No.3861958

>>3861914

I'm not sure you're familiar with how utterly illegal it is to NOT make accommodations for the disabled...in work and school.

Ever see those handicap parking spaces? You know what happens if a place of business doesn't have at least one spot close to the entrance reserved for the handicapped?

Same for the OP.

>> No.3861960

>>3861955
I am trying to find the policies for other major science departments. There doesn't seem to be a school-wide policy.
Again, though, this is going to vary based on university, and possibly the professor after that.

>> No.3861961

>>3861945
>>3861945
Actually by law they are required to.

>> No.3861968

>>3861958
And they have to hang little tags saying that they belong there. Before they leave the car. They can't come to the impound lot later and not expect a fine.

>> No.3861985

>>3861968
>analogies
>how does they work?

The OP had a legitimate reason to miss the exam. It was clearly do to his disability, which is required by Federal Law to be accommodated for.

I know you're butthurt that you're wrong, but stop making an ass of yourself already.

>> No.3861994

>>3861968
OP's note says he had a psychotic break. The professor will be forced to accommodate OP, give him an incomplete, or some other no penalty thing if the OP sees the dean. Unless the dean feels like getting his balls sued off and the reputation of his school ruined.

>Local news story on how University X fails student for missing class due to getting medical attention for paranoid schizophrenia (You know, the things the public associates with murderers)

>> No.3862002

>>3861718
Did you abide by the professor's syllabus? You generally have to arrange this AHEAD OF TIME.

>> No.3862007

>>3861943
OMG MY FRIEND IS IN THAT CLASS
what section are you in

>> No.3862021

>>3862002
>Implying I can predict when my paranoid shit starts up
I had to go that day. It was so bad I was looking over my shoulder every 30 seconds and having panic attacks for the last few weeks. It was either go in early, or wait another 2 weeks and get worse.

>> No.3862109

>>3861718
>>3861718
does you uni have a center that deals with disabilities? if so go there and they'll make sure you get to make the test up.

but yeah i googled the disabilities act in america for you. It seems that adjustment must be made by the university unless these adjustments are claimed to be "undue hardship" i.e. to costly to be justified i dont think rescheduling an exam falls under that.

here is the text

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/psych.html

>> No.3862127

>>3861958
building codes are not the same...

all univeirsities should have a policy on this... Look them up, if your conidtions do not abide by them, then your fucked... and it is legal...

you are not leagally obligated to attend school... They amited you under the condition that you follow the rules that are set out for you... if you do not follow them you can not sue them

JUST FUCKING LOOK THEM UP AND DEAL WITH IT, EITHER GO GET THE FUCKING NOTE OR GET OFF MY INTERWEBS

/thread

>> No.3862140

>>3862127
Public Universities are required to make accommodations for the disabled. Pretty sure private ones are too.

Worst case scenario, OP's grade is nullified for the semester.

Chill out OP.

>> No.3862142

>>3862127
>implying that schools and such are allowed to discriminate against people with medical problems because "you are not leagally[sic] obligated to attend school"

>> No.3862155

>>3862140
well I don't know what country this is taking place in... but here federal laws are subject to uni policies... we have a disibilites center, but you have to be registered with them, and get both their permision, and the permision of the proffeser at the start of the class to get special permisions and waivers....

>> No.3862168

>>3862142
>implying just bitching about it on /sci/ is following uni policies and the right way to get things done

>> No.3862258

>>3862155
No. You can get a medical withdrawal for things mid way through the semester.

Diseases of the body and mind do not time them selves around school.

>> No.3862260

>>3861876
pretty sure I have SADD...
That's the anti-sun one right?
I get incredibly happy, active, and feel the need to improve myself in the winter.
In the summer, I feel depressed, angry, worthless, and just generally upset.
Also, like a lot of you, I feel like there are conspiracies around me. I usually just dismiss as crazy, and never act on them unless I am sure no one will be affected/see but my imaginary antagonists.
I left out the specifics there, because this whole board and even the internet could be in on it.
True story. Am I crazy?
Diagnosis plz

>> No.3862295

>>3862260
See a psychiatrist. They only lock you up if you say you are going to hurt yourself or others.

Only thing they do it for. Or if you are arrested during a psychotic break.

>> No.3862316

>>3862168
now how in the hell did you pull that implication out of my post

>> No.3862321

>>3862295
well i think i'm too poor, and I don't trust psychiaters.
This doesn't seem to be affecting me, either. I am fully functional...
I lack a social life, but imo I can't have one what with schoolwork being what it is. I can interact with people easily when necessary though...
This is my second poast in this thread...
armchair diagnosis?

>> No.3862343

>>3862321
They can't lock you up for no reason. i didn't believe it either, look it up. medication helps tons. you will be able to connect with people once the right medication kicks in, and you will be able to do well in school/at work at the same time.

>> No.3862388

>>3862343
>>3862343
really not afraid of being "locked up"
afraid of...
you know i've never thought of that...
afraid of something arbitrary i can't say what it is