/sci/ - Science & Math

I am still astonished from the previous thread about the idea of nurses prescribing anything, what the fuck is wrong with the American Health system? No wonder they consume like 90% of world opiates.

>>9941467
the american healthcare system was designed to wring as much money as possible from insurance companies. Any other side effects, like curing the patient, are just incidental.

I find it hard to believe actual MDs use 4chan. Maybe med students but even then, doubtful.

but if yall arent fakes curious about your alma mater lol

>>9941532
Believe it, the future is now, soon enough as this generation ages, no matter how many NEETs and incels that includes, they will take over political offices and government jobs, much the same way memes became mainstream because 12 year olds started to grow up

>>9941538
whered you attend med school

>>9941467
There are like 15 types of prescribing nurses in the US. Do you have specific issues or questions about them, or did you want to just imply that you think thousands of people are incompetent and move on with your life?

NPs/APRNs definitely have their place. Midwives allow safer births outside the hospital, FNPs can handle most common complaints and perform simple procedures like removing impacted earwax without a physician present, hell even anesthetists have their place. I even heard of one neurosurgeon who hired an NP to do a full neuro exam on all his patients before he saw them in clinic - a huge time saver and beyond what many neurosurgeons do with their ambulatory patients.

Where it gets sketchy is using NPs in place of IMs and even intensivists. Mid level providers get used a lot on stroke floors in my hospital system. You see a LOT of inappropriate discharges, like GCS<7 full codes with 200+ systolic BP being sent to home care.

>>9941585
>did you want to just imply that you think thousands of people are incompetent and move on with your life?
I'm moving on one day at a time. My research is going really well, what are you doing with yourselves? Are you getting money by serving your money master?

>>9941610
Speaking of GCS<7....

>>9941532
They definitely do. Mostly third worlders and radiologists.

>>9941279
how well did you guys know you wanted to do medicine went you went into college?
t. unsure

>>9940542
>>9935557

Not sure if you're the same guy but you've got me really interested in medical imaging. But still my biggest worry is how my Laryngopharyngeal Reflux will affect my work. I think it'll be a problem for all careers, but more so for jobs where I have to talk a lot.

I can project my voice relatively well to begin with but it becomes painful and my projection declines as the day goes on. After 3 years it has improved considerably but my recovery seems to have plateaued since the first year. I might have it for life. To give you an idea, if you and I were having a one-on-one casual conversation, I could last about 1 hour until I become uncomfortable and after 2 hours the pain would be unbearable. So it's important that I'm not talking in a loud environment and also that there's breaks inbetween talking. If I was working with patients, I would probably wouldn't like small-talk or jokes because I'ld want to minimise my vocal output as to conserve my fragile voice.

How many patients do you see a day?
How long are you talking to the patients for?
Are you talking with co-workers constantly?
Are there times when you are filling out forms / configuring settings on equipment where you don't have to talk at all?

THORACIC and LUMBAR: Diminished fatty marrow signal may indicate red marrow conversion, recommend clinical correlation.

Well, /sci/?

>>9941532
you know that old "haha time for 4chan meme"

the older we get and the more time marches on the truer it becomes

>>9941904
But Radiologists are one of the best specialities

>>9941483
absurdly true and sad

>>9941534
My Alma mater is the Internet Proper.

>>9941904
>Third worlders
So MBBS?

Why does the U.S, which is supposed to be the "best" industrialized, first world country have the worst maternal death rate and IMR of day 1 old babies compared to other industrialized first world countries?

>>9942414
the US is only good if your IQ is above 120, otherwise you are just fodder for the meat grinder. welcome to capitalism.

>>9942429
Good thing the U.S has the most vaccines to protect them. Before you give your child it's first feeding from the mother gotta make sure it's protected from the deadly Hep B that plagues every single infant.

>>9942414
America has a lot of poor blacks and hispanics, other industrialized first world countries do not.

Comparing America to Europe directly is erroneous. You need to compare the white states, like the Midwest or North East, and ignore the non-white states (South, Texas, and the west coast)

what should i do with my bsc in biochem lads. im too dumb/lazy for med school. is med lab tech my only option? I've been working min wage jobs since i graduated and i need to move on

>>9941921
In my case I was forced to go to med school. Now I kinda like it.

I just had a patient telling me I'm too young to be his doctor and to fuck off.

>>9941532
DMD here
I'm barely post nowadays but im lurking for about 9 years.

lads is internal medicine worth taking? I finished med school and want to know what's up with it

>>9941585
They don't know what they fuck they are doing hand half the time sucking dick to seem as if they know better.

I see America is still on top. If your statement stars with ......"America" sorry but I'm taking it as a joke off the bat.

Does anyone know where to get a full copy of Finley's Interactive Cadaveric Dissection Guide? Or just where to pirate references in general. B-OK doesn't have everything I need.

I have symptoms that seem a whole lot like Menieres
I live in the bay area, do I go to UCSF or Stanford?

>get something in eye
>doesn't really hurt that much but have to make sure i don't accidentally die or lose a vital organ due to autism
>apparently medical advice on the topic is "go to the emergency room NOW because you might go blind btw there's no way to tell if it's that or nothing lol"

really fucking epic

so is ophthalmology really shitty or just really jewish

dentists mates "3
what's the biggest challenges that faced you during your study or work and how did you overcome it ?!

>>9941921
My dad had his his aortic valve and part of his aorta infected and got a valve and aortic root replacement. He was in and out of the hospital for months before the surgery and he had a pretty bad prognosis. He went to some big shot cardiothoracic surgeon in San Diego and had got fixed right up. I thought that was pretty fucking cool especially because he would be dead right now without modern medicine. This happened in my first year of college and it was the only motivation I needed.

>>9944237
A good doctor is basically God. You keep people alive who should definitely not be alive and you are the only person who was capable.

>>9944153
Shit clinical tutors.
Basically they could not care less that there are students there to learn shit.

shitanon from a week or so ago.
I still appear to be shitting just liquid. That would be in the region of 3 weeks now.
Admittedly it is getting slightly concerning at this point.

>>9941921
Wasn't sure at all desu. I'm a UK student and I know US med school is very different but here's my view. I only decided to do medicine because it has like 100% job security and I like problem solving. I also didn't want to be a cog in the corporate machine like both my parents. I think I would have been equally suited for any engineering degree as well. In my first two years I questioned my decision all the time but after my third year and now in my fourth year I couldn't imagine doing anything but medicine. I'm aiming for anaesthetics.

All the higher calling caring for people stuff is bullshit in my opinion, if you really only cared about helping people you would be a care assistant or a nurse or something. But you have to be able to turn that side on for all the entrance/interview stuff and OSCEs.

>>9941532
med student here. right now in the 5th semester.

>>9941279
What are the biggest problems facing medicine today?

Hi /med/, sorry for being giga gay and marching in here with a question but i've searched for fucking years now and i want an answer, maybe anyone of you will recognize what i'm talking about?

So, basically, whenever i don't sleep much in the night (like, 4 or 5 hours of sleep, not enough), i have this weird thing during the day.

From time to time, i will SUDDENLY remember a dream i had. Or not. What i mean is - i'm not sure if i actually HAD that dream, or my brain is making me think i had. Either way, what happens is i completely lose track of what i was doing and "focus" on the dream that i just remembered - all this while having a slight headache and very slight problems with breathing.

And this lasts 10 seconds, or so - i was never able to count. Either way, once it's done - The headache is gone, i can breathe normally, and more importantly - I completely FORGET the "dream" i just had remembered. Poof. Gone. Not a single detail.

When describing that to a friend of mine he said it might be related to high blood pressure, which i do indeed have - but it seems SO bizzare, especially given i can't find any details on it on google.

Any help? Does anyone know what happens to me?
Thanks in advance, i love you all.

What the fuck is wrong with doctors in the US? Ive just seen one on tw*tter complaing about muh $250k debt, but if you look at any statistics the average salary for the lowest specialty is $200k/yr? Do they just not know anything about saving money for a year or two?

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on what I would need to do to get into med school as a 30 year old boomer in a different field (engineering)? I assume the main things are getting the premed classes done and taking the mcat, but is undergrad research needed?

Is a paramed degree worth it?
in Australia

>>9944620
May be some kind of seizure lad. Lack of sleep often predisposes epileptics to having seizures.
The symptoms of "remembering a dream" sounds a lot like the feeling of deja vu which along with is classic pre seizure symptom. Also the amnesia after the incident is consistent with a seizure.

Do you have a history of seizures/epilepsy?

>>9944422
Is an anaesthetist really a doctor?
All they do is knock patients out and bring them back.

>>9944742
Yeah all anaesthetists in the UK are doctors, they also do a lot more than just knocking patients out. It's actually a meme within the speciality that lay people have no idea about what anaesthetists do, yet they interact with 75% of patients in hospitals and are the largest hospital speciality.

>>9944715
Nope, not at all.. though i'll research a bit about it, that's a nice direction. Either way, thanks!

>>9943922
classic cauda equina syndrome, NP thought it was a 'pulled muscle' (in both legs and the lower back apparently)

>>9944715
Holy shit, i just searched a bit and it's LITERALLY the thing i'm having.

https://www.doctorslounge.com/neurology/forums/backup/topic-10006.html

People in this thread here are describing the exact thing i have - though mine lasts maybe for 10 or 8 seconds.

Man.

After 25 years of being alive i learn that i'm epileptic, what a ride.

>>9944779
If you tell your doctor that you may be having seizures and they diagnose you with epilepsy they may take your driving license for at least a year so be careful what you say lad. At least thats what they do in the UK

>>9944598
>What are the biggest problems facing medicine today?
Healthcare

>>9944391
What other symptoms are you showing t. GI fellow

>>9943922
ANOTHER PREMED FUCKUP - DISREGARD ITS SHIT TALK

>>9945002
None that I know of.
I have mental problems but I can't imagine that has anything to do with anything.

>>9945139
so only a liquid stool..

No blood, abdominal cramping, excessive gas, abdominal pain, fever, joint or mudcle aches, oily or pale stool, foul smelling stool(think like a dead animal smell), no problems chewing or swallowing food..?

I've got my 1st year final exams in 9 days and I'm so frickin nervous. I don't know shit, i framed a pass-atleast syllabus last month but i could only complete 30% from it. Plus I feel ive forgotten everything. I'm so freaking out i cant study. Help?

>>9941585
>Where it gets sketchy is using NPs in place of IMs and even intensivists. Mid level providers get used a lot on stroke floors in my hospital system. You see a LOT of inappropriate discharges, like GCS<7 full codes with 200+ systolic BP being sent to home care.

PVS
Permissible HTN
Full code until hospice consult
Economic forces to discharge.

Excellent post. Unlike most of the Eurotrash/Third World Turd posters and underaged doctor wannabe fucks blabbing on about shit they know nothing about.

>>9942074

go see a chiropractor

that and lose some weight fatty boombalatty

>>9941532

it's a welcome distraction from charting. for the lulz amirite

>>9945156
Nothing on that list.
For what its worth, every time I move after being still for ~10 minutes, a lot of my joints click very loudly.
most often hips, knees and elbows.

>>9945229
chiropractors are frauds

>>9945294
Do you take any medications... Do you have any autoimmune problems in your family

>>9945229
What do you mean? Do you get that from being fat, or are you just trolling?

>>9944671
Why pay debt when you can pay mercades?

>>9941279
pharmacists too, right?

>>9945686
God I hope you aren't in retail like I know some are

>>9945742
Yes, in retail. Going to talk to a friend in hospital for a per diem position.

>>9945758
genuine question, how many medical questions do you get from average patient and do you feel well equipped to answer them?

>>9945812
Well, I'm a recent grad so I feel very equipped to answer their questions. Unfortunately, I may get 1 or 2 questions a day related to pathophysiology or mechanism of action in detail, so I rarely get to use it.

>>9941279
Guys. I don't think I can be a doctor anymore.


>Be me.
>At A&E.
>Some woman in her mid 50s carted in complaining of food poisoning or some shit.
>Decide to check it out in bloods.
>Looks like food poisoning.
>She gets asked the usual questions.
>Embarassed about something apparently in her lower region but still wants it checked out.
>Blood everywhere. Must be a problematic period.
>Notice some coagulated like substance in the blood.
>I was so fucking wrong.
>Apply some light pressure.
>She was exuding chunks of meat.
>Chunks of raw meat and coagulated blood.
>Keep applying pressure to release this... this meat fetus. It was like popping a giant red pimple.
>Keep asking what went wrong.
>She eventually folds and says she was shoving minced meat up there.
>One of the interns on call nearly passed out from the smell.
>Had to apply surgical cleanup and antibacterial meds.
>Can't stop thinking about it every night.

Tl:Dr

Should I just kill myself?
Have we truly reached peak degeneracy?

Shouldn't we have a mandactory vit D test for teens and criminals, like once per person? A bunch of bullshit seems influenced by it.

>>9945849
lmao shit like this makes me feel better about my life.

>>9945849
I remember the story of a woman who developed toxic shock after shoving a turtle into her vagina on the advice of her herbalist.

>>9945849
>meat fetus

>>9945849
Could have gon my entire life without knowing dis

>>9945849
As a MD you have to see such gross shit. At least all I have to do is answer questions about interactions, IV flow rates, and doses.

How does /med/ feel about MD vs DO in US?

It kinda seems like there is no difference besides having to learn OMM (which is pretty much a load) and it being slightly harder to get into residencies as DO.
But after that there seems to be almost no difference.

Enlighten an ignorant retard

>>9945849
>tfw get to laugh at this post because I have never smelled something so bad and can't relate

>>9945849

>>9945849
>Should I kill myself?

Anon. If you really have to ask that question. You are a stronger person than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goOB8r785CM

>>9945914
>>9945914
MD get all the high paying specialties

that's it.

>>9945949
Ah.

>>9945849
ADD ME TO THE SCREENCAP

>>9945849
Jesus fucking christ why? Did she have some sort of sick and twisted coping thing for menopause?

>>9945686
>knew a girl with a literal borderline personality disorder, substance (mainly booze) abuse problems and suicidal tendencies
>has been working in a pharmacy handling shit like oxy since she was 15
Why is this fucking allowed? When I was 15 I couldn't even find janitor jobs.

What is the value of the medical profession given that A.I. outperforms all human-level diagnostics?

>>9946263
We can pull your head out of your ass when you stick it up there.

>>9946269
So can a robot. In fact I could program a robot before you could feasibly perform that operation to proficiency of a restorable state.

>>9946287
Why don't you then? You'd make millions if you could figure out a way to get a drunk homeless person to lie still and communicate with staff without just drugging them.

>>9946288
Why would I bother with that when my robots could feed and clothe them, providing even less need for HUMAN medical professionals.

>>9946288
And why would money EVER be my goal? Either it is gifted or it is not. Salaries are things for people that have a very narrow perspective of work ethic and social conscience.

You've outed yourself so I'm not going to bother replying anymore.

>>9946296
Outed myself from my own held perspective? Are you some sort of rapist?

>>9946292
>why would I bother
Using your own reasoning you wont bother make AI to outperform human medics. I think my career is safe from you in the meantime

>>9946303
Yes, my question is purely WHY is the medical profession holding technology back because of existential crisis? Are people in it just default SUPER NEEDY and don't want to give up feeling special because they can't believe the same level of fulfillment is obtainable through spiritual means?

>>9946303
Please stop replying. They're either trolling or actually facebook-tier deranged.

>>9946309
Trump runs a whole country that way, you think I can't rile up the youth of your country through blatant manipulation? Kids read these forums but adults post. It is a communication skill of a matured brain.

>tldr; younger brains absorb my information risk-free, so long as MY narrarive is the first one they've heard.

>>9946309
As if Russian spies don't post on /sci/ too!

>widening audience variable size, parallel performance expected.

>hurr durr medical professions will be replaced by AI

If AI becomes so advanced that this will be realistic (and it will not be for decades at least), then ALL the fucking jobs will be replaced, not just medical ones. This is not a medicine-specific question, and nobody really knows what a technological singularity will be like, so no point in worrying.

My Gender = Mathematically Polynomialized Categorized Genderling

>>9946325
I was offering. Most humans only believe in some witty banter before engaging in directed superlatives, like gentlemen.

Thoughts on this guy?

>>9946329
Male, goatee, receeding hairline, myoptic and squared jawline.

>does the markov chain nigga-jigga dance

>>9946331
I'm talking about his claims that the reasons malocclusions in the teeth and the recession of the jaw occur is due to poor oral posture.

>>9946339
Poor oral posture is rectifiable by mouth guards. Sufficient preventative care would resolve the initial concern.

>>9941483
:(

>>9946342
But what he's saying is that it's possible to change bone growth through postural changes.

>>9946352
Correct. Old ancient cultures used to do the same thing. Chinese foot binding and indigineous Skull Shapers.

>>9945546
Lamotrigine 150mg twice daily.
Not that I know of.

>>9946630
Should clarify, I've been on that for years

>>9946339
Are you saying that jawgains that /fit/ talks about are real

>>9941279
I'm a witchdoctor, can i stay?

>>9946704
Only if you do the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNAr5tzZxdk

>>9941545
Isn't it this information too doxxable? I mean medical schools aren't exactly large.

>>9945156
So you never bother to ask about his diet, any recent travel, or history of this happening?

>>9946844
Normal history goes in order, Presenting complaint, History of presenting complaint then Medical, Family, Social, Drug history in whatever order you want

>>9943619
What do you mean? You didn’t do a clinical rotation in IM? Despite what some people might say IM is very complex. It’s a specialty where you’ll have to do a lot of reading to stay up to date, and there is a lot of paperwork. Still if you enjoy the problem solving aspect of medicine, treating complicated or multiple diagnoses, managing medications, and long term care then you might find it fulfilling. The learning curve is immense, though. Even worse than many other specialties.

>>9941921
As a kid I suffered from severe headaches 3-4 times a week. After tons of useless doctor visits I eventually found my way to a major city where I got a consult from a very smart otolaryngologist and got endoscopic sinus surgery along with correction of a deviated septum. The surgery and recovery was horrible but it kept me from getting debilitating headaches multiple times a week and changed my life. That doctor was like a god in my eyes. Eventually I realized that while it was a life altering event for me, he does that sort of thing multiple times a day. That was all I needed to know that every other profession sucks cock comparatively.

Anyone have tips for MMI's? I have an interview for my state school soon and they use this style.

>>9944681
Research is not necessary but it’s helpfu, the majority of matriculants have some research experience. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be in biology or chemistry, the point of it is that you know a little about the research process. Volunteer work is required, clinical and non clinical. I’d recommend you look on SDN at the non-traditional forum.

Volunteer, take the pre-reqs (get a 4.0), take the MCAT, and apply early and broadly. Some medical schools are more open to older students than others so researching that will help you.

>>9946905
Sure, but this is an image board, they could have easily posed these questions near the initial post to gather as much info as possible.

>>9946933
Fair enough,I was explaining why GI anon was only asking questions about the presenting complaint first. It often helps to get a good detailed profile of the complaint then progress through the history narrowing it down as you go along. It saves you from spending loads of time working through set questions. The relevance of your questions regarding diet and recent travel are completely dependent on details of the complaint.

>>9944422
Actually, if you *really* cared about helping people you would become some soulless VP earning $300k, most of which is stolen from americans who are manipulated into buying your companies products through advertising, and then donate most of the money to improving lives in 3rd world countries. This would allow you to save hundreds to thousands of lives a year, far more than any doctor could.

>>9946329
literally who?

Just starting Med School here in Denmark at the University of Copenhagen. It´s great!

Question: Is it inappropriate, to drink laté while having an anatomy demonstration or during dissection?

>>9947050
Yeah mate I never said doctors had a monopoly on caring. I think all that rhetoric is bullshit, that was literally the point of my second paragraph

>>9947087
In america, no.

>>9944314
i feel you anon mate, that's why i spend most of my time on YouTube learning most of the clinical issues in its proper way :p

have you ever noticed that nobody can objectively answer how much of a drug is too much

makes me fairly mad that i have to reconstruct it from academic publications

>>9947704
>objectively answer how much of a drug is too much
Ever hear of "LD50". Patient factors aside, this is your best blanket measurement for lethality for a drug.

>>9947752
it should be obvious i am talking about chronic, not acute, usage of a drug

>>9947704
>nobody can objectively answer how much of a drug is too much
>>9947890
No, it's not obvious. Be sharp in your wording if you want distinct answers.

>>9947902
It is trivial to accurately quantify acute pathology related to toxins.

It is almost impossible to accurately quantify chronic pathology related to toxins.

Why is your field so

1. unscientific
2. unquantified
3. shit

>>9947704
>>9947890
Tolerance is a thing that varies between people and also depends on the dosage, length of time, as well as a combination of possible other drugs. To figure it out involves too many variables which isn't even considering damage to organs from prior drug use, age of patient, any cardiovascular conditions, brain abnormalities that may affect uptake, etc.
>tl;dr you are retarded

>>9948015
>le everyone is le special snowflake copout bullshit answer that brainlets always use
It's called radiology

Is it possible to live a healthy live without my medication(I have type 1 diabetes) if not,would it be possible for a cure to be created in my lifetime?(I'm 15 btw)
Please just give me truth, I'd rather live with pain then have a false fucking sense of hope....

Is SIDS real or is it a cover up for women killing their babies?

Why are there so many women in medicine? In my country 70% of medical graduates are, it's not even funny.

>>9947937
>It is trivial
Yeah Toxicology is just useless garbage.
Poison control centers and hazmat specialties are barren from the lack of work they receive.

>>9948061
>>9948061
It's an autoimmune disorder attacking beta cells of your pancreas. I'm sure in time, they'll have "cures" for newborn-adolescents, but who knows for sure

>>9948185
It's a blanket term for diseases and conditions that we have no idea about. Until a condition is identified and managed, nearly every infant born with it will die before it can be prevented because we can't screen for something we can't recognize

>>9946909
I had clinical rotations at uni

the one aspect I don't like about it is that you know everything and nothing, and you will never beat an actual specialist, a gastroenterologist will do better endoscopy than you, a cardiologist will do better heart ultrasound than you

>The learning curve is immense, though. Even worse than many other specialties.
and this bothers me also, I'm sick and tired of wasting so much time studying only to forget that shit

guess I should reconsider this

>>9944149
if by jewish you mean some insinuation about money, then yes

>>9945178
Study harder next time

bare below elbows

do any of you doctors practice it? why or why not?

Are there any job prospects for BME's? Seems pretty bleak based on my own experiences...

>>9944671
Yes.

Physicians are terrible with money. That is why so many of them are poor despite 200k+ salary. Physicians who invest that shit are rich as fuck though...

>>9947704
The literal first step in drug developement is developing the “maximum tolerated dose” for safety. Just because you are a faggot that’s doesn’t make an effort to find out these things doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

And the worst post on /sci/ today goes to >>9947704

>>9941532
post grad year one mbbs here. taking a shit before mandatory training. Midwives are shits who don't realise that a 9 year old textbook is not the be all and end all of safe prescribing

What's the best speciality and why is it emergency?

Tip to anyone making a general:
Put a link to the previous thread in the OP
>>9923072

>>9949801
Why is emergency the best speciality to you?

>>9944684
>getting a bachelors in PTSD
Why not do science and get a GPA over 6 on a 7 point scale?

>>9949801
Toxicology

>>9941532
Year 3 MD here, Australia

>>9941279

Western medicine is shit

t. Supersayan

>>9941610
So far i'm just getting at the peak of my health. At the same time i'm trying to solve my financial problems. Once i got that i will live a epic and easy life.

Medicine or Biomedical Engineering?

I very nearly have the grades for med school, I've got a high "internal to the school" average, and a top score in 2 out of 3 national exams required, so I would only have to retake the 3rd exam which is well within my reach.

The thing is, I've got the entrepreneurial vibe and would definitely like to start my own company. But Medicine will always be Medicine. Tough choice.

>>9950369
Biomedicine

>>9950530
Elaborate. I don't think I've ever heard of that before and no top uni in my country offers a course of "Biomedicine"

Someone answer pls
>>9950627

>>9950681
Fuck, wrong person
>>9950621

>>9950369
medicine, don't listen to that retarded fuck

>>9950958
The thing is, when controlling for intellectual ability, doctors seem to be well, not very entrepreneurial. I have friends who went to med school and the workload is insane, easily the highest of all higher education degrees.

Biomedical would allow me to get to work on my on prosthetic arm or whatever I feel like right off college. OTOH, Medicine is incomparably more prestigious and allows people to actually treat patients (I'm assuming biomedical engineers cannot perform any procedure whatsoever themselves)

>>9951036
>doctors seem to be well, not very entrepreneurial.
If this is true, then you have an advantage. Medical school doesn't spit you out with the same bland personality and uniform skills.

>>9941279
MD+PhD dutchfag here.
I have a question for fellow students and potentially those who already finished med school and the like. Did you have a job during med school? Was it related to the medical field? I worked in a nursing home for the 1st year of what I think burgers call pre-med (1st year of the bachelor of medicine). Although washing old people wasn't the nicest thing, the pay was really nice at 14 euros per hour. I did a little over a year of phlebotomy (drawing blood) at my university's medical center now for 15 per hour and alot of physicians I talk to say finding veins easily is a good skill to have practiced. The pay is really nice as fellow student who work in grocery stores get 9 euros per hour lmao

>>9951096
wew I have to mention I'm not a physician yet as that might not be clear from the text

>>9951096
I think in murrica you can only go to med school AFTER you finish our Bologna Bachelor's or the equivalent.

It's a strange system. They can't go from high school + national exams straight to med school. I think it's the same for lawyers.

>>9949801
>Not lifestyle specialties like anesthesia, derm, rads, or psych.

Enjoy having terrible hours.

>>9950611
He’s fucking with you.

Medicine has job security and respect and gets you pussy.

10/10 would study again.

how do you deal with being tired all the time? i am failing my classes because i dont have enough time to sleep enough and study. If i choose to study then i get sleep deprived and eventually comes a day when i collapse and dont wake up at all when i need to go to class, and if i choose to sleep then i get behind and it's nearly impossible to keep up.
depression is getting me

>>9951111
But, what? What bachelor are fhey supposed to do before entering med school? That seems a bit weird to me but like you said I'm used to the bologna bachelor master system

>>9951238
You need to examine how you spend your day and cut everything else out. Your friends will still be alive when you graduate, if they're really you're friends they'll understand. People say all the time
>oh I have no time for X
>I've done everything I can but it's not enough
That's shit and you know it. We all waste time. I'm wasting time on /sci/ right now. The difference is I don't bitch that I don't have enough time, I've designated this time for wasting. What do you actually DO in a day? (don't tell me, I don't care, just write it down and examine it yourself) No cheating. If you sit on your phone for 30 minutes after breakfast before leaving for work/school, that goes on there too. That's where the time adds up.

Question to the medfags, is there any benefit of killing a varicose vein? Will it prevent expansion of the disease to other veins?
>>9951270

>>9951381
Fuck off back to your own thread, PS DO NOT CUT YOUR VARICOSE VEIN ON YOUR NUT, idiot.

>>9951384
OF course i wouldn't. Only retarded people such as 99% medics would sugest that. No irony here

premeds fucking gassed when?

>>9951454
hopefully soon
t. premed

>>9951185
Emergency has some of the best hours... They work 3 days a week.

>>9951599
24 hour days

>>9945914
If you don't believe OMM works then don't fucking go to school to be a DO.

Fact is that it very much does work if you use the right techniques, and you can do it to yourself. Simply clasp your hands behind your head and pull down until you feel tightness. Try to lift your head up while using your hands to not allow it to move. Do this for 3 seconds, then relax for 3 seconds. Take a deep breath and pull your head further down with your hands as you exhale. Congratulations, you just performed muscle energy and stretched your neck muscles. You can do this to ANY muscle in your body that you can provide resistance for.

This is the most basic form of OMM. Anyone who tells you it doesn't work is either retarded or trolling. There is stuff that is bullshit, but the core foundation definitely works.

>>9951621
I should note that you repeat the 3 second on 3 second off rule until you reach the point where the muscle either cannot stretch any more or until it becomes too uncomfortable.

IS THERE ANY BENEFIT OF KILLING A VARICOSE VEIN? WILL IT PREVENT EXPANSION OF THE DISEASE TO OTHER VEINS?
Why dont we use CHIVA (Cure Conservatrice et Hemodynamique de l'Insufficience Veineuse en Ambulatoire) for varicocele?

>>9951671
stay in your own containment thread

I really need some guidance guys.

>doing rad tech degree
>in previous years people with high GPAs had the option of doing a research project in the final year and changing their degree to Honours
>now all the universities are changing so Honours will be the ONLY degree and everyone does it
>now have the option of doing Honours OR opting out and finishing the old degree
>the entire job market will now be flooded with Honours degrees
>worried I'll be at a disadvantage if I don't do a shitty research project and get Honours

What do you guys think? Will it hurt my job chances to have a non-Honours degree in a sea of grads who do have it? I really don't want to do it because it cuts back on my actual clinical experience time so I can do a shitty project on patient emotions or something. Shit like that is the exact reason I didn't do a BSc. Pretty sure we won't even have a choice of topic or methods, and resources will be spread incredibly thin because the whole cohort has to do their own project. And I'm not sure if I'll even have time because unlike 90% of the cohort I have to pay rent.

I was also thinking about doing medicine after graduating while working part time as a tech, but I don't even think research experience would help me there. Hell, if worst comes to worst this project might even tank my GPA and stop me from getting in.

>>9951599
>Work three 24 hours shifts for a total of 72 hours a week.

What great hours friend. I sure regret working those 45 hours instead.

>>9951599
I thought 24 hours shift were not a thing anymore on the US?

>>9951868
>non-Honours degree
no one cares about honors. they care about experience and maturity

Anons, I am a brainlet when it comes to solving math like problems, I took general chemistry and got B. Is there any chance for me to get good GPA in med school prereques? So far my gpa is 3.8 and I have about 60 credits, but only 12 credits are medically relevant (Anatomy/Physiology and Microbio), got A on those. I am scared to take org chm and physics. Is there anons like me?

are all people in medicine fucking psychos?

>>9945415
The scientologists of healthcare. I know one guy who became a chiropractor and I would venture 50% of his instagram post likes are from other chiropractors who have the prefix dr. in their account names. Obvious marketing tactic, makes me wonder if they are taught how to use social media in school?

>>9951868
Got PhD friend
Enjoy comfy job

>>9947937
This'll be hilarious when you end up needing chemotherapy 50 or so years down the road.

>make all this money
>no time to spend it

>>9945849
Very interesting case summary anon.
Will add this to my reading list

just experienced what felt like ruptured aneurysm? should i go to ER?

still feeel crazy

>>9953786
If you had a ruptured aneurysm you would have fallen unconscious and subsequently died within a minute or so.

I have a pilonidal cyst, can I treat it at my home without spending 45€ at the hospital?

>>9953894
No, my friend had an aneurysm. He was in coma for some months then he died for an infection

>>9952578
They aren't. That's called trolling.

Had a patient with the worst case of hpv in the history of humanity. Imagine a penis split into thirds length wise and spread apart slightly Now imagine hundreds of necrotic pea sized asymetrical worts with tissue similar to your palpebral conjunctiva oozing puss and blood Now imagine all of this on an 60 year old obess man in end stage sepsis convulting in the er while also incontinent of stool and urine. His uretha was non present and catheter placement was impossible. urine trickled through the worts onto the bedsheets like it was passing through honey comb. The smell was unimaginable bad and the sight has fucked with my head for weeks. It was so bad a picture posted publically would have been immortalized.

>anatomy lecturer is a female with a shrieky voice
>voice resonates fucking perfectly with the mic making it crackle
>coupled with the 64kbs recording quality it's basically impossible to make it through the lectures without cringing every 5 seconds
I don't think I'm going to make it lads. She deliberately puts assessable shit in the spoken portions only so it's not like I can just put my notes in anki without listening.

>>9954128
>>9945849
Where the fuck do these people come from? How do they get this bad? Just mental illness, neglect or homelessness?

>>9951307
You can get any bachelor you want and just need to have taken basic science classes along the way. Usually having a non bio or chem degree actually helps you stand out since they want a "diverse" class.

I prefer it simply due to the fact I and many of my class mates didn't know we wanted to be doctors until sometime in undergrad. Plus I like the diverse academic backgrounds people have.

>>9954248
Anon, I...

>>9941279
Any oncologists here? How stressful is the job and is the pay off good?

>Abstinence [from alcohol] improves liver histology, decreases portal hypertension, and decreases, but does not eliminate, the development of cirrhosis.

how the fuck does abstinence from alcohol not completely eliminate the risk of fatty liver progressing to cirrhosis???

Would it work? If any of you are experts (you arent) i dont want anymoney/creddit, i only would like if you contact me

>>9954939
viral hepatitis, other hepatotoxins

>>9945849
>meat fetus
The thing is anon, you can't know if we've reached the peak until we drop back down. Why not ride it out until then, who knows what lovely wonders await us?

I don't expect an answer but I'm hopeful nonetheless.
I have a nose surgery scheduled due to a deviated septum, around 90% or so apparently. I went in for congestion, this explains it. I also ask for the surgery, it wasn't forced onto me. Apparently he also saw that the turbinates are enlarged moderately. But that could largely be because allergy season, but I dunno.
I read up on consequences of surgery not going well, and I'm scared. I'm considering asking him to not touch the turbinates, and only straighten the deviated septum to be "safe".

What would you guys do in my shoes?
A: fix deviated septum, leave turbinates alone
B: fix deviated septum and turbinates; the default option right now if I don't say anything.

>>9944620
If you completely forget the dream... how do you know if you had it in the first place?

>>9944671
Most people, regardless of profession, are terrible with managing resources. Note that I said resources, and not money, because this extends to things like time, health, attention, etc.

>>9951238
>sleep enough
>tired still
that's your problem. Look into standard biological causes for depression sans brain chemistry fuckery. Are you getting enough sun? Vitamin D? Magnesium? How's your diet? How's your etc. etc.
Also, as a treatment not a cure, how does caffeine get along with you?
Could be anything from mineral stuff, to sun, to nose stuff obstructing airflow, to lack of sleep because sleep apnea... you get the point.

>>9944391
3 days liquid shit in a row means you have to go to a doctor if you like your organs in a good condition.

are himalayan breathing salt things legit?

>>9944391


Just to clarify... you've been 3 weeks already with diarrhea? if so... how liquid is it? it has the consistency of pudding or brown water?

how many times per day do you have diarrhea? do you also have more solid depositions or just plain diarrhea every time?

How much would you say you are shitting each time? is it a lot or not so much?

does it have a different smell from what it used to? specifically, does it smell fishy (literally fish like)?

have you changed the dosage of the lamotrigine recently?

have you eaten uncooked seafood on the past month? is there a chance you've drank non-potable water on the last month?

Is your BD under remission (controlled, with no symptoms)? have you been under more stress lately than normal or feeling depressed?
> I have mental problems but I can't imagine that has anything to do with anything.
The submucosal plexus of your gastrointestinal tract (auerbach's plexus) has autonomic outputs, any sustained increase in sympathetic tonicity (say like when you are depressed or stressed for long periods) in susceptible individuals will decrease your gastrointestinal motility modifying the consistency of your stool

> every time I move after being still for ~10 minutes, a lot of my joints click very loudly
did this begin at the same time with the diarrhea? or did you already have it before diarrhea appeared? how old are you?

in the last year, did you have an episode of bacterial gastroenteritis or was under antimicrobial therapy for any other reason?

do you have abdominal pain or pain somewhere else?

None the less, a diarrhoeic episode that lasts for more than 7 days should always be further studied. You should go to the doctor to at least get a biochemical panel.

>>9954939
because non-alcoholic steatohepatitis is as, if not more common than alcoholic fatty liver. You may had gotten rid of the acute toxic effect of alcohol but not it's long term effect (alcohol tends to increase the synthesis of lipids and they get stored in the liver so even when you get rid of alcohol you are still left with a fatty liver anyway)

>>9955044
postpone surgery until allergy season is over and reevaluate your nasal conchae.
If you are still unsure then ask for a second opinion, your current surgeon will not mind it at all.

>>9955292
>fat people actually have worse livers than thin alcoholics
my sides can't take this absurdity

Reduced affect display is a hallmark trait of an actual human being

>>9955313
While it's probably a good idea to get a second opinion... in fact I will do that in the next few days (surgery is scheduled in about a week or so, should hopefully be able to do it tomorrow / monday?), allergy season *is* already effectively over at this point.
http://pollen.aaaai.org/nab/index.cfm?p=AllergenCalendar&stationid=188&qsFullDate=08/1/2018
(I'm allergic to trees and grasses, mainly. Not molds at all, and not much to weeds) So I would probably not have them be inflamed still if it were purely allergies... which, you know, I wouldn't have bothered looking up allergy season stuff and putting that two and two together without your comment to focus on, so thank you, that takes a little of my concern away, at least insofar that it's not enlarged purely because allergies.

It's embarrassing to worry so much, though. I was discussing surgery stuffs with doctor in his office and I passed out in the middle of the conversation... which pretty much ended the appointment there, nothing on his end it just kind of makes you lose your train of thought when the last thing you remember is waking up in the doctor's office and why am I here? Oh. Right. I must have passed out. etc.

>>9955408
my fucking hell here we go again... reading comprehension on /sci/ brainlets goes from bad to disgusting to just sad really...

you are implying I said one is worst than the other but you are so wrong. Both can eventually get you into cirrhosis if left untreated, that's literally all I'm saying.
Anon asked... why alcohol abstinence doesn't eliminates cirrhosis risk on these patients? I answered because the liver is either filled with fat and other factors besides alcohol must be addressed or because it already is undergoing fibrosis which is irreversible, most probably both processes are indeed occurring and some part of the liver are indeed already cirrhotic. Get it?

I have a swollen gland or something under my chin/above my adam's apple, kind of under my tongue area but only felt from outside my skin. Been like this for a couple weeks or longer and hasn't changed. No pain or anything though.
What's the dealio?

>>9955466
nothing to be ashamed of tho, surgery is a topic of concern because even the most simple laparoscopic appendectomy can go horribly wrong. Remember to evaluate the pros and the cons of the surgery, that is the most important thing to consider. Personally I always recommend getting a second opinion if necessary, heck even a third if still not sure. Also remember that the doctors expertise with that specific surgery also plays an important roll here.

>>9955509
observe it, if it doesn't change much leave it be or name it billy. If it changes size considerably then freak out (not really but consult).
Your description is quite vague and without physical exam there's not much we can do but randomly guess.

>>9941279
Is being a doctor as cool as it seems to be when I read about it? Are you just working in the hospital and having all these people come to you and you get to play detective and figure out what's wrong? It can't be that easy and fun sounding right?

Poorfag here, I have pain in my stomach and GERD, when I tried to take garlic as antibiotic I kept screaming and felt like I'm going to die in pain and I kept vomiting, does this means that thi garlic is working?

>>9954721
What?

>>9941279
I got prescribed some zopiclone by my doctor

Took one yesterday. Worst feeling I've experienced in my 20 years of life. I could feel every single bone aching and I was practically paralyzed and I was sweating cold. Could I've been damaged by the drug?

>Communication skills workshops with simulated patients while being observed by 3 peers and one facilitator.
>Nervous as fuck every time I go.
>Display all the necessary skills such as open/closed questions, paraphrasing, empathy statements etc.
>Received plenty of positive feedback from the patients, but all of them mentioned that I need to relax.

How do you guys manage anxiety with regards to public speaking?

I was told that attending a local public speaking workshop on the weekend would help.

>>9955873
>3 peers and one facilitator
That's the stuff of nightmares. I have no issue talking when it's legitimate but as soon as it's fake like that it becomes acting and I just can't ever get in the right mindset.

>>9955873
>How do you guys manage anxiety with regards to public speaking?
Is that really public speaking if you've only got 3 peers and 1 facilitator? I usually just don't worry and give them what they want to hear, because any 'taught' communication is completely fucking useless and only there for fuckup ESLs who'll get fired from any decent place in a few weeks.

Whatup ma bois? I had a 20 day vacation and I missed ya felas. In the duration of my vacation I had to deal with a series of medical problems though. Is this what it is being a real medfag, dealing with stupid shit while you're trying to relax?

>go to the seaside with friends
>1 guy gets diarrhea
>1 guy gets a sore throat
>1 guy gets his disk hernia inflamed
>had to rule out acute abdomen in 1 girl, turned out she just didn't eat for a whole day and then took antidiarrheal medicine for god knows what reason and got constipated
>had to deal with an inflamed gastritis in another girl. Pharmacy didn't want to give PPI without prescription and she puked out antiacids. Turned out she's an ex anorexic and barely ate throughout the whole vacation and was on coffee and cigarettes for most of the time.
>went to see my sister abroad. She lost her hearing in both years and had an MRI made. It showed nothing except a arachnoid cyst and she had her hearing back in a few days.
>she's now freaked out about the cyst
>had to pick up a friend of hers from a colonoscopy, because her other friends didn't want to (like wtf?)

Is this going to be my every vacation from now on /med/?

>>9955513
>Also remember that the doctors expertise with that specific surgery also plays an important roll here.
This guy's an ENT who also is the one doing the surgery himself. I have a feeling, and based off of the questions I was able to ask him (before passing out...), that he does know what he's talking about. It's just that fear hanging in the back of you mind. The "what if".

This is a question which is actually answerable though. If you show up for surgery for A+B, can you ask them to just do A and not B?

>>9955884
Yes. Unless you actively refuse to do doctor stuff on vacation. You're a doctor, why wouldn't they go to you for whatever?
You've heard of IT stories where people ask for computer help? Well, you're the IT guy for bodies.

I've been shitting bright red blood and my ass hurts what's the diagnosis?

>>9955886
I have to be one gigantic ass to refuse, lul.
>>9955887
Hemorrhoids/anal fissure.

How common are god complexes among medical practitioners?

>>9955507
>>9955292
fatty liver reverses though

>>9955507
I was reacting more to what i was reading in the literature than your post. Who the fuck knew that fat people have worse livers than alcoholics? That Americans have worse livers than Russians???

and besides, if you eat right and stop drinking fatty liver reverses.

>>9955887
Would be best if you go get checked to rule out something more severe than haemorrhoids.

What's the point of the hypophyseal portal system? Like why is that the way that hormones are transmitted to the anterior pituitary?

>>9955949
quite a bit

>>9955884
odds are pretty good the cyst is harmless unless it's fucking enormous, i went through the same scare myself

>>9955949
What's the difference between God and a neurosurgeon?
God doesn't think he's a neurosurgeon

What do they have in common, though?
Both made vegetables.

>>9948602
I do it, mainly to show off my massive forearms, but long sleeves can be a hygiene problem.

>>9951599
Lmao

Regards shrink with a 20h work week

>>9954965
Doesn’t provide a real benefit over existing technology and will probably increase risk of clots.

If i'm a graduate of a social work degree with a 3.0 gpa and I do really well on the MCAT is there a chance I could get into med school? I want to change course but I'm worried my GPA just isn't good enough.
Should I just give up and try something else?

>>9956785
Depends on where you live. In the US, you need 3.8 to be competitive. In Canada, it's 3.9.

>>9956785

If you can kill your MCAT you can get into a DO school. A 3.5 is pretty bare minimum for MD schools in the US though. Apply broadly, nowhere is too good for you.

compsci student here
As someone with a pretty healthy body how safe would it be to use 20mg of amphetamine 3 to 4 times weekly?
I might have ADHD, but I never was tested for it.

>>9956895

Non-issue with that dose and frequency. For reference max dosage for XR Adderall is 45mg/day.

>>9956851
>DO school
Fuck. I really want to do something specific and not just be a GP.
Is there anything I can do to change my GPA? Or anything that could compensate for the low GPA I have?

>>9956895
It won't save you from being a brainlet.

>>9952897
have to be insane to make it in healthcare, its literally a system built on contradictions; you’ll go crazy without being slightly sociopathic or psychopathic.

2.77 GPA because i was a fucking moron and dicked around in freshman and sophomore college, got some research experience and publication under my belt now; what are my chances to be accepted for PT or OT programs /sci/lads?

Could someone indicate the study load you'll have in the first 2 years of med school, and how it changes in the 2 clinical years? For the first two, are there many practical classes that need to attend or is it mainly just lectures? And for clinicals, are you basically working in a hospital while also doing full time study? Does the study load drop off much after med school?

Is IQ real?

>>9944135
Online diagnosing isn't bad because of patients.

>have abdominal pain
>web says is inflamed appendix
>read comments
>someone says you could just have been wearing a too tight belt
In the fucking comments.

How bad is smoking really?
I’m 19 and addicted, trying to determine how many years I’ll lose to the cigarette jew

>>9957580
Living on the edge is the best way of living. Just don't worry too much about it. Go and have a nice day.

>>9957612
>t. anon the enabler
>>9957580
Bad, but severity will depend. My anecdotal experience is that geavy, lifelong smokers start to see non-life threatening problems at around the mid 30's like persistent coughs etc. Fatal conditions soon follow, and I know several family members who didn't make it to 60 as a result of lung cancer and shit. It can also contribute to a lot of other, non-lung problems

However, I personally was exposed to a pack/day of second hand smoke for my entire childhood and most teen years. I have zero current lung problems and am into cardio sports with a pretty good stamina. So interpret this info as you will.

>>9956404
It is. 2.5x1 cm. But try explaining it to a hypochondriac.

>>9957580
>being okay with having difficulty breathing
Yikes.

>>9956936
Being a DO doesn't curse you to a life of GP. Plenty of DOs do other specialities. But if you were looking for a super competitive surgery or a competitive cushy speciality like derm or radiology then you'll be at a decent disadvantage. But there are residency spots that only DOs can apply too that may be of those specialities which can balance that out.

>>9956770
In long term it might be better but yeah it would need anticogulation eventually

>>9957425

MS2 anon here, so I haven't experienced clincal years myself, but know plenty of MS3/4s and talked with them about it.

A significant amount is school dependent, but generally: First two years is like college on steroids. You'll be putting in 3-4 hours a day minimum of study time, plus lectures. My school also has a decent amount of practical things, like learning how to do history and physicals, practice on standardized patients, etc.

Clinical years are you going to clinic for the majority of your day (though this depends on what service you're on - psych for example usually has much shorter days than surgery), and then studying for your shelf exams. Just how hard you'll have to study depends on your school - some put high emphasis on the shelf-exams as part of your clerkship eval, some care more about what the docs you're working with have to say.

>>9955044
I had surgery for a deviated septum and enlarged turbinates. It really only helped me for like a year or two. Now my nose is back to being fucked. Wait until you cant breathe out of your nose 24/7. Maybe my ENT was garbage but when I feel my septum it doesn't even feel straight.

>>9953786
>>9953894
okay what if I have unruptured aneurysm? ever time I get blood pressure rise my head feels like concrete. should i visit

>>9955044
Don't ever let a doctor touch your turbinate. I fell for it and had fantasies about stabbing that surgeon to death.

I had a condition called empty nose syndrome where I lost sense of smell and taste. felt like I was suffocating 24/7. The turbinates are like air conditioner for your brain. with surgery you can completely lose functionality. read up on empty nose syndrome,. people have killed themselves over it

deviated septum is a scam as well.

watch this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVOpgjH7pkQ

>>9955044
https://nypost.com/2018/07/15/my-nightmare-condition-makes-me-feel-like-im-constantly-suffocating/

>>9958185
Empty nose syndrome is pretty rare. You just got unlucky.

>>9958271
worst condition ever. like trapped in fifth dimension. my body was a prison. reality was like a film. constant suffocation.

>>9941279
Considering going to med school but is it really worth 8 years of my life and 200K+ in debt?

>>9958293

Only if it's because you love people and medicine. Don't go in for the money or prestige or you'll become a shitty, jaded doc

>>9958300
I hate people but think that medicine and germs are interesting as hell. It's been an autistic obsession of mine since i was like 8.

>>9958302
Medicine is all about people, don't go into medicine if you hate them. Most docs will tell you that the gratification that they get from helping people is what makes the rest of the administrative bullshit bearable. If you don't have that you'll be miserable

There are plenty of other paths (like research) that will let you do stuff involving "medicine and germs"

>>9958293
Go to a top medical school and graduate debt free but the odds of this happening are next to none. (thesr schools have 0-2% acceptance rates approximately, yes 0) otherwise get into a lifestyle specialty like derm but that's very hard as well. If you live frugally during residency and a bit after and don't defer payments during residency either, you will be fine. Worst case scenario you just say fuck it and double your salary by going to some rural bumfuck nowhereville.

>>9958323
>>9958334
I am half Japanese and was planning on going to a Japanese university since even if it's medical school, i'd only be paying around 10K a year, plus a dorm is added in.
If i get all my shit over there could i come back and still work here or would i be stuck over there?

>>9958383
Unlikely because while right now the number of MDs and DOs is a fewer than open residencies each year, it might not always be like this. Have you looked into state schools? I know Texas medical education is dirt cheap.

>watching a lecture/reading a book
>they start throwing their own mnemonics at you

Stop. I'm not a godamn baby. Your childish wordplay doesn't help, it's just more stupid shit for me to remember.

>>9954128
HP Lovecraft, is that you?

>>9958185
sounds like something a bad surgeon would do, be uncareful and fuck around with the epithelium olfactorii
>with surgery you can completely lose functionality
basically every surgery can lead to some kind of lost of specific functionality

>>9952895
You have no fucking chance on the MCAT if you're bad at "math like problems". And general chemistry is the second hardest part of the MCAT so

>>9941921
My dad used to bring home pictures from work and clinical advisor magazines w/ all the gore in them [spoiler] which is why I became an engineer instead, I can't stand looking at grotesque injuries

>>9956895
Mech engi here with actual adhd and meds
Get yourself some real strong coffee and a good thermos instead, it actuallyreally helps. Don't mess around with meds your doc didn't give you.
I'm on 54 mg a day but I've been taking it all my life. Starting cold turkey can damage your heart and taking too much can literally make your heart explode

>>9957580
Don't start smoking until your old and have a job. Or just don't start.

>>9958961
Caffeine only keeps me awake.
Doesn't really help me focus at all and in large doses it does the opposite of keeping me focus.
But considering I'll not use it daily i'll going to have a mini "cold turkey" on a weekly basis.
Also I will take week off from to time to recover my tolerance.

>>9958961
>>9959038

lol, stimulants are not nearly this dangerous unless you have some sort of congenital heart condition. I've never met a doc who titrated stimulant dosages upwards out of fear of cardiac issues.

>>9958881

Eh, I wouldn't say that. I got a B- in Gen Chem and generally have issues with complex math (I have what amounts to math dyslexia), and still scored a 39 on my MCAT.

>>9958048
Can I do surgery as a DO?

>>9959274

Absolutely, you can do pretty much anything as a DO.

>>9959186
>math dyslexia
Like dyscalculia?

At any rate, the MCAT really tests rationalization, critical thinking, problem solving, stuff like that. I don't remember it having any worse math than the GRE, just more science.

>>9959388
So then what does being an MD give you?
There must be a reason why that degree is more coveted.

I want my future children to have big dicks, should I choose a female with a big clit? Aren't they the same thing basically?

>>9959415
Prestige. DO schools are necessarily less established, less selective, and worse endowed than MD schools.

Is MD/PhD a meme?

>>9959544
I think staying at one institution for lmao9year is considered "academic incest"

>>9959274
You would have a good shot at a vast majority of surgeries. Certain ones however like say neurosurgery would be harder to get into as a DO but even then there are osteopathic only neurosurgery programs you could get into.

>>9959544
a phd is a waste of time.

Some recommend me a good YouTube channel like Medicurio (and to a degree, Kurzgesagt) please.

Thank you.

>>9960109
Good channels about medicine that is.

>>9941279
>In what types of cases do you wish you had old radiological studies and what kind?

Currently in my radiology elective rotation, my attending constantly says "A radiologists best friend is an older imaging study".

Having a baseline image could make diagnosis via imaging so much easier.

>How would medicine change if there were high resolution MR or CT images of (most) patients from before they got sick?

life would be easy as fuck.

>>9941532
3rd year US DO student, we're pretty much like MD students except not as smart.

>>9941279
What are y'all's opinions on optometry?

>>9944671
physicians are awful with finance, too much delayed gratitude makes it hard for them to justify continue living a resident lifestyle when they start making 300k+ a year, in order to pay off their debt in a timely fashion,

There's literally no excuse for a doctor not to pay off their student loan debt within 5 years of getting out of residency.

>>9944681
Get your pre-reqs done, keep GPA above 3.5.
Score 509+ on MCAT, have some shadowing done, and you'll be a shoe-in for any DO school.

MD school, you should be aiming for 3.7+gpa, 512+ mcat, research+volunteering, and shadowing, to be competitive.

>>9944742
Depends, in the USA there are CRNA's that can do it, but they need to be supervised by an actual Anesthesiologist (an actual doctor), since CRNA's are not equipped to deal with more complicated cases, or if the case goes wrong.

>>9945914
Current DO student, doesn't matter. Majority of what field you go into has a lot more to do with how well you score on Step 1, and Step 2.

>>9945952
this is mostly true because of higher average USMLE score, due to the nature of MD schools being more selective with the student pool.

only a few residency programs are really protected due to the nature of having an affiliated med school with the program/hospital.

>>9959544
If you're not doing NeuroSurg, Derm, or Heme/Onc; then it's a complete meme.

You're better served doing MD/MBA.

How do I learn the anatomy and physiology of the human heart w/ the circulatory system without wanting to shoot myself? It's objectively the most complicated part about Physiology and Anatomy 1

>>9946329
the voice of reason

>>9960644
now you know why cardiothoracic surgeons make so much

>>9941279
Do orthopedic surgeons, as a general rule, work on the entire body (head to toe, whole musculoskeletal system) or specialize on certain parts (I know there is spine, but is there arm, shoulder, hip, foot, etc?).

I want to be an orthopedic surgeon and I'm curious.

>>9961034
I am ortho. You may choose a fellowship after your 5 years to sub-specialize. I say may but you should definitely do so.

>>9961047
Is fellowship pay like residency pay (shit)? How long is an ortho fellowship?

>>9961050
You make about the same as the required residency and they are typically 1-2 years.

>>9961054
is spine longer than the others?

I'm gonna be poor for so long. I only started undergrad at 27. I'm gonna be like 42 when I finally start earning doctor's pay.

What the heck does psychology have to do with nursing ? Shouldn't you already be able to read people if you wanted to go that route ??

>>9961057
So you want to be a spine surgeon. this can be done via a neurosurgery residency or orthopedic and won't be longer than others.. they are both going to be very competitive. Age for medicine only matters in that you will be working 80 hour weeks from medical school throughout your residency so you need energy. If this isn't your life, don't do it. If you can see yourself practically living in a hospital running to help as much as possible, then this is exactly where to be. I LOVE being in a hospital and having work constantly. There are certain personalities that excel in this environment. If you want a balanced life, don't go through this. I am on vacation right now, otherwise I would never, ever be here.

Medfags, is coughing up phlegm from the lungs a sign I'm getting better from being sick? Not sure if I should go here or /adv/ for this.

Context
>get sick out of nowhere a week ago
>super sore throat
>fatigue
>ear pressure issues, primarily right ear
>no fever
>no rashes
>no nasal issues
>no other symptoms
>3 days ago right eye got conjunctivitis, left eye completely fine (though as of today the inflammation is much less and almost no rheum coming out, so it's going away)
>2 days ago the super sore throat went away, but got replaced by a cough coming from the lungs area
>putting on vaporub at night helped lessen the cough so I could sleep, and vaporub behind the ear helped relieve ear pressure when nothing else worked
>but when I woke up, coughing intensifies, and I cough up and spit out thick phlegm clusters - almost grey in color, but it could just be really dark green and yellow mixed together
>this happens until a certain point when phlegm stops coming out, then the coughing dies down for the rest of the day, starting back up around late afternoon and nighttime
I've figured out whatever I have is definitely bacterial, but the eye might just be a bacterial thing unrelated to my main respiratory sickness? I have no clue what I have otherwise. No fever or rash or any nasal symptoms like there would be with something like strep throat or scarlet fever or other nasty shit.

Anything?

>>9961060
As a nurse your job basically consists of interacting with patients.

Medical psychology teaches you how to effectively interact with patients, by learning
1) Why people act the way they do
2) How you can positively influence this behaviour
x) a lot more but the point is clear

It's a really valuable subject when you're studying it and it's even more valuable in practice (also really valuable for med studs).

>>9961034
If you have to ask, you are too lazy for any specialty

>>9961085
If you "know" whatever you have is bacterial then you should talk to your PCP for cultures and antibiotics. Don't self-diagnose, don't ask anyone on the internet to diagnose you, and if you think you have a bacterial infection, don't just hope it clears up on its own.

>>9961165

>>9961173
not sure why you're wojakposting, >>9961165
is correct

>>9961176
>not knowing something is a sign of laziness

>>9961170
going to a PCP is my last resort
if it doesn't clear up on it's own by Friday, then I'll see about seeking help
thanks

>>9961178
You want to become an orthopedic surgeon, yet you're too lazy and uninterested to do any kind of research yourself and expect people to spoonfeed you. You also defensively wojakpost like a retard when someone calls you out for it.

Not gonna make it unless you change that attitude champ.

>>9961178
You will be doing complicated work for 16 hours every day for like 11 years to become a spine surgeon, this isn't including getting into medical school with a 3.75+ GPA and HIGH MCAT. if you can't even Google something like this, you are way too lazy for truly any bachelor's degree let alone medical school, let alone one of the most competitive specialties, as well as a fucking spine fellowship. Don't even think about it. This is a joke.

why are pcps so fucking stupid? why is it so hard to find a good one? why are specialists a thousand times smarter every single time? 'oh lol it's just stress' for every issue you ever have, thanks doc heres 150 bucks

>>9961195
what do you expect a primary care physician to do

>>9961216
diagnose and treat diseases that arent obvious to every toddler

>>9961195
it's almost as if they have the lowest step 1 and step 2 avg score for a reason.

>>9961186
I wanted insight not easily found on google. Sorry that triggered you anon. Next time I'll be sure...to do the same thing because its the superior mode of getting information.

>>9961195
it's probably stress and/or being fat though

>>9961222
I imagine it's the wage. I would love to be a pcp but I could make literal 2 to 3 times their respectable salary with only a bit more training. If they made more money, the smarter more motivated people would stay around. But they don't generate money like specialists do.

>>9961235
What you're asking is a basic ass question about a job's function, there's nothing insightful to be said.

It's the equivalent of asking "Which day of the week is it?"

If you genuinely don't understand this you're a retard that has never studied and will never study medicine or any other non-meme study.

>inb4 no I'm not xD
>inb4 I was just pretending to be retarded xD

>>9961258
Yes, the question was obvious and easy to answer. And someone answered it. I learned and no one involved was butthurt about it.

On whose behalf are you upset?

Help this black spot appear aroun 1.5 year ago, i just though t was some sort of pigmentatuon, but the it got itchy an red like in pic.
This red itchy happened like every 4 or 5 months for a few day then went back to normal.
Any thoughts?

>>9961342
Can you take a less blurry pic

>>9960328
>Currently in my radiology elective rotation, my attending constantly says "A radiologists best friend is an older imaging study".
yeah i heard this from zerhouni at RSNA last year
I didn't know how common it was, but i guess it is fairly so

Guys make anything of this?

I was bit by something and my GP told me to put Vaseline on it (dry feet) and didn't think it was a bite despite my concerns. I put athlete's foot cream, didn't do much, lotion made it baby smooth. I think I should be seeing a ID for this...

Wat do

>>9961741

Better pic,

Also it's been 2 months and I suspect it could be Lyme/Co-Infection

(Muscle spasms, joint cracking, fatigue, ect.)

Egghead doctor laughed at me when I mentioned Lyme's Disease (I'm in California)

>>9960644
Take this and add congenital disorders of the heart with various shunts and shit. Enjoy pediatrics lul.
>>9961034
I think they learn everything, but everyone has a favorite part. There are spinal surgeons, arm and hand surgeons etc. BTW arm and hand surgery is precise as heck.
>>9961085
Sounds like a viral infection that descended to your lungs. These are very pesky and take a long time to heal. You could cough for 2 months straight. If your overall state worsens, you get a fever, difficulty breathing, hypotension it's time to see a real doctor, not us brainfarts on /med/.
>>9961741
>>9961751
That's what I thought too. It kind of resembles the bull's eye rash in Lyme's, but did you see the tick? And it's been there for 2 months?
>>9961342
Do a better pic. We can't even tell which part of your body this is.

Can someone explain body’s spatial localization medical terms to me.
I hear shit like ‘lateral’ or ‘ventral’ or ‘dorsal’ and hundred other stuff from doctors all the time. Any guide on thia terminology? Or at least how can i search for them?

>>9962066
Google body anatomical directions.

Remember it's all relative, used in exchange for left of and right of (because its easy to visualize) and is usually used in relation to body parts you know the names for "left side of the body, proximal (close to, above) the iliac crest (hip bump) and you'll get it. If used correctly, you should be able to paint an accurate picture with your words so that when you transfer a patient the doc will see what you described exactly where they expect it to be.

t. EMT

>>9961436
It is under my armpit

>right breast is feeling weirdly warm/sore around nipple
>go to GP
>there's one particularly sore spot
>get US / bloods
>nothing untoward visible on US, get told 'unilateral gynocomastia'
>still waiting for blood results

Meanwhile, my right pectoral started to get pretty sore and stiff and now my whole right arm feels a bit sore/stiff/weak.

Any ideas?

>>9962392
Well, it's not gynecomastia. I've had it and it doesn't make your pec sore.

>>9961992
>Sounds like a viral infection that descended to your lungs. These are very pesky and take a long time to heal. You could cough for 2 months straight.
Damn. Well for the past couple days my condition is stable enough - no fever, no rashes, no difficulties in breathing, no hypotension. Rather tame as sicknesses go, but what do I know?
The coughing only comes up in the morning for an hour or so after I wake up (i.e. until enough phlegm is purged out), and starts up nighttime around like 7 PM. All other times in between are alright, not a single cough.
But like I said, I'm gonna wait until this Friday and hope it goes away. If it still persists, THEN it's time to go see a real doctor and not randos on a mongolian basketweaving forum.
Thanks anyway dude.

>>9962406

Tit cancer it is then

>>9962421
Another thing. Are you a smoker?
>>9962193
Looks weird dude, derm isn't my strength, can't really say.
>>9962392
I'm thinking mastitis, but I'm not entirely sure if men can get it.

BTW I've been looking into DOs. And it seems like a meme to me. Somewhere it stated they can treat even congestive heart desease and other complicated matters. My sister got adviced to see an osteopath for a hearing problem. Someone redpill me on this.

>>9962715
Probably less than 15% of practicing DO's uses OMM (osteopathic manipulative medicine), and probably less than half have OMM make up a significant part of their practice.

For the most part, OMM is a low risk way to provide some symptomatic relief. There are some techniques that have been shown to actually help (such as colonic stimulation for post-op ileus). The stuff that's used to treat Musculo Skeletal complaints, like low range of motion due to fascial adhesion, or tight/shortened muscles, tend to work the best for patients. The more voodoo stuff like cranial rhythm, lymphatic flow techniques, and sympathetic/parasympathetic stuff is mostly placebo.

There are also a subsection (generally older DO's) of DO's that go full quackery/scam artist with crystals, funky diets, etc.

> Somewhere it stated they can treat even congestive heart desease and other complicated matters

I don't think I've ever seen a DO claim this. But, what they could be talking about is relieving some of the symptoms with osteopathic techniques.

>My sister got adviced to see an osteopath for a hearing problem.
Depends on the pathology, if it's a middle ear infection, or middle ear effusion, there are some osteopathic techniques that help open up the Eustachian tube (the tube from the ear to the pharynx), and help drain it out, which would help with hearing.

Source: Current 3rd year DO student.

>>9962785
>I don't think I've ever seen a DO claim this. But, what they could be talking about is relieving some of the symptoms with osteopathic techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHn6pers97Q

This guy at 1:05 did. Now, I know he's a celebrity, but he's also a doctor, either he believes this or it's a false statement. Anyway thanks for the insight anon. Way better explanation than the motherfucker in the video.

>>9962710
Not a smoker, why?

>>9962835
>treats ailments
he means symptoms here, not disease/pathology.

>>9962421
Get a chest x-ray my dude. To me it sounds like some kind of allergy but you never know.

Do your eyes get watery/itchy/red around the same time you start coughing? Does your nose get all runny?

>>9943619
How tf did you just finish med school and don't know what you're specialty or residency is going to be?

>>9947087
Yes, that is inappropriate.

>>9948185
Bruh I've wondered this so many times.