/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9678602
I’m in the process of becoming a medfag too. You should’ve gone into academia if you actually wanted to interact with intelligent people. Doctors are good at hands on problem solving (well, some of them), memorization, and standardized test taking.

The real world is filled with disgusting and shallow normies anon.. Stay here with us.

normies are dumb piece of crap ahead of themselves

>>9678602
>Goes into field based on pure memorization
>Is surprised it's all normies
No shit nigger should've done physics/math/Astro if you wanted people who can problem solve and think for themselves

>>9678762
>problem solving using pre-made theoremes and laws. you're so ahead of yourself about shit you know little about i'm sure youre a blue color subhuman.

>>9678602
Derp. You know the answer. Yes, medicos have shifted right on the normal distribution but some are educated beyond their intelligence - they know facts but have no idea what it means. Or they are a mile deep in one thing but an inch wide in knowledge base. In general the normal distribution says if you are on the right side of the curve, everybody seems dumb because they are to the left of the curve from you - they are literally not as bright..

>>9678787
>Doing proofs and thinking through unique problems where you can't just use memorization isn't problem solving
Also you messed up indenting your second sentence. Medfags are morons compared to mathematicians.

>>9678828
>doing unique problems.
Lets do an "unique problem" 2+7+8+1.221+2.7373221
is an unique problem, yet you're using pre-made laws.
>doing problems you can't just "memorize".
Each building is unique you can't remember a building since every environement has it's own chalenges yet you can remember what to do "if" and how to do "if", "if" not, then try "this" etc...

what do you think ? like eisten or tesla didnt used their field knowledge to try experiment ? that their thought just "popped".

The topics you debate about in he medical field come later when you are part of a "treatment team" debating on pathology,diagnosis, and treatment for a patient.

Protip: their bout of psychosis, depression, mania or anxiety might have organic roots instead of psychological ones. Think about that before passing them off to a therapist or social worker.

>>9678787
Physics is math but to derive the math you usually have to do some intuition leaps to solve the problem

>>9678866
(You)

>>9678602
Every medfag I've talked too (sample size of about 3) abuses adderall to shit out stuff they memorized.
SAD

>>9678602
>medfag
>>9678602
>people who can actually think and have opinions about certain topics
HAHAHHAHAAHAH maybe if they are 60yo+ newmeds are they most idiot you can see

>>9678984
Or just straight up abuse of notation to see if something works

>All the QM derivations that start with assuming that a formula that holds for classical momentum should hold for the momentum operator

Medfag here, I hold opinions and thoughts but they're more in the Humanities side, I am still a brainlet who can barely do arithmetics.

>>9679481
>newmeds are they most idiot you can see
Why?

>>9678602
>certain topics
What topics? Like in the medical field or other shit? That's what confuses me. Also some things I find hard to have opinion on (in the medical field). Like you can't fucking argue about a patient with abdominal pain that he has a brain tumor. Being booksmart is actually required in the medical field from what I've seen.

>he wasn't aware that medicine is just the blue collar white collar profession

literally just rote memorization and no intellectual creativity

the only respectable MDs are PhD/MDs.

Also why does the majority think there's no creativity? Differential diagnosis is fucking hard sometimes.

>>9678602
maybe most med students don't have enough time in the day to sit around and muse about random bullshit because they're busy memorizing all the information necessary to properly treat patients, and this MDs = dumb nonsense is based on their behavior and not capacity, but you fucks can't distinguish cause from effect

t. not even a medfag

>>9678602
>surround yourself with people whose academic career is defined by work-intensive stamp collection
If you want to find people with interesting thoughts on a wide variety of subjects, turn to engineers, mathematicians or physicists. They are - at least on some level - required to understand what they apply in exams and in solving real-world problems. From ability to understand abstract concepts comes an ability to reason abstractly in general, which is the type of person you desire to engage in conversation with.

>>9681143
>differential diagnosis
Throwing the term "differential" in front of whatever practice you aim to defend is of no use - the half-assed guessing game of a physician "diagnosing illness" is nothing more than that: a slightly sophisticated guessing game.

>>9681180
>required to understand what they apply in exams and in solving real-world problems
>>9681185
>a slightly sophisticated guessing game

So you guys think going through a list of illneses in your head and comparing it to patient's symptoms is all there is to it? You're completely ignoring the fundamental sciences (anatomy, physiology, pathophysiology, pathology and biochemistry) with which you actually know why shit is happening and why the hell is the guy sick/dying. This only confirms my theory that non medical people think they know better than actual doctors and if they could they would buy prescription medicine based on googling symptoms. Seriously medfags are the only specialists that get told how to do their thing by other non profesionals. I don't tell a mathematician how to solve equations, I don't lecture physicists on quantum theory I don't tell mechanics how to fix my car and I don't ask firemen "but why can't I light a fire in my living room". Yes I'm salty.

>>9681214
well 1) it doesn't help that these people think Biology is field about memorizing words with zero context and
2) they don't realize understanding a disease is reliant on understanding things like biochemistry of the disease.

It's like they think when a doctor says "Parkinson's disease is characterized by a loss of dopaminergic neurons in the substantia nigra pars compacta" the doctor doesn't actually know what those words are, and can't visualize the specific brain region or how dopamine transmission works and is altered, but rather, just literally memorized those words verbatim and never thought about it beyond that.

>>9681180
>engineers
Are you joking?

>>9678602
You're doing the wrong major if you want fellow autists, try either: computer science, mathematics or physics.

>>9681247
Why do normies have to ruin every field reee. Mommy please make normies leave my field alone reee.

>>9678984
>Truncates taylor series to make the problem easier