/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16059502
Yeah. No shit. Experiments showing that sort of shit have been done time and again. Welcome to basic socioeconomics.

You act like facts matter.

doubtfully on much, 1k is nothing
you can't even afford insurance with that and even if you try to obfuscate the payment method they sell off the vouchers and buy frivolous shit.
You'd shit your pants if you knew how much money we waste on welfare.
The government WASTES around 1.4 TRILLION DOLLARS on welfare. That's enough to send over 11 million people to college... not that that's a good investment.
So we actually do have enough wasted money to give every homeless person a house and a pool and live rent free until they die while I work for their rent... until I die.
Here's what I think, don't bullshit it. Just give the black people money... give them money if their children are preforming well in school. Then instead of beating on they cheeds for no good reason but cause they feel like it, then they will be beating their kids to ace their math exams.
People don't need sticks for crutches, they need sticks for beatings to motivate them.
Also darwinian theory indicates we should left these people die if they can't help themselves anyways.

>>16059535
>1k is nothing
Please stop wasting carbon.

>>16059502
>>>/pol/

>>16059541
Dude I don't know what shithole you're from but 1 month rent in the US is over 2k for most people

>>16059569
Dude, I don't know what shithole you're from, but a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and even covering 2 weeks rent can buy a lot of breathing room/peace of mind.

"Paycheck to paycheck" isn't a euphemism. A fuckton of Americans are dirt poor. "Median" net worth for a Black "household" is $44k.

>>16059569
$500 USD/week is a lot. Is that a 3 bedroom house in the middle of the city or something? That's pretty much my whole weekly wage in AUD

>>16059502
A UBI would probably be better financially. It would be financed by removing welfare and the pension and lots of other payments like that and all the related infrastructure and employees needed to run those services. Then everyone just gets a flat rate payment regardless of income

>>16059502
landlords understand basic economics and that housing is not an elastic good.
there will always be someone willing to pay 70% of their disposable income to rent
oh you got an extra $2000 between you and your wife? well surely you wouldn't mind if $1500 of that goes to making sure your kids don't end up on the street, right?

>lower income
hypothetically, if someone makes 300k a year and then decide to stop workings and their income goes to 0 next year
do they qualify for ubi? if not, when would they start qualifying?

>>16059569
>but 1 month rent in the US is over 2k for most people
is that nationwide? anecdotally nobody i know living outside of big coastal cities are paying more than 2k in rent

>>16059502
>Give poor people money (from where?)
>Poor people spend it on stuff poor people buy
>Demand for stuff poor people buy increases
>Stuff poor people buy goes up in price
Back to where you started. Regardless, how do you plan to get all this money?

>>16059586
Stop giving these people welfare and they'll either find a way to stop going living paycheck to paycheck, or die. Either solves the problem. Yet again socialists are feeding the ducks creating an unsustainable population. And just like the granny feeding the ducks they don't do it for the poor's benefit; they just enjoy feeding ducks.

>>16060407
>Stop giving these people welfare and they'll either find a way to stop going living paycheck to paycheck
Not actually how that works. Also, even if it were how that works, neither is going to be a good social outcome, the thing public policy should be trying to achieve.

>Yet again socialists are feeding the ducks creating an unsustainable population.
Waterfowl populations are healthier than they've ever been. Climate change and pesticides broadly aren't fucking them more than humans creating favorable environments for them is helping them. City duck populations are pretty much just as sustainable as city pigeon populations, ie very.

>>16060415
Once granny dies the excess ducks will starve.
>Not actually how that works.
Tell me how it does.

>>16059569
>>16059809
>over 2k for most people
i live in connecitcut, and it's maybe $1500-1600 for a 1-bed, 1-bath condo in my area. prices can spike to $2000 when you move outside a 10 mile radius though
minimum wage will get you $2000 a month (after tax, which reduces it by a fifth)

>>16060434
>$1500-1600
yeah that's not 2k a month
>minimum wage will get you $2000 a month
assuming you even get approved for that rental

>>16060407
>Stop giving these people welfare and they'll either find a way to stop going living paycheck to paycheck, or die.
Man I wish I was still 16, listening to my boomer dad prattle on like this, living at home.

Economics isn't science & math
>>16059535
>The government WASTES around 1.4 TRILLION DOLLARS on welfare
Why do you think it's a waste? Not necessarily disagreeing, just trying to get more details.