/sci/ - Science & Math

>Kurzgesagt is soience

>No you see is not that we are paid Bill Gates propaganda the internet is now like very meanie for noticing!

>>15893975
Internet has been taken over by rabid propagandists and opportunists of all sorts.
It's melting away the brains of the youth.
Social media was a mistake honestly.
My mother is a teacher, children in schools have trouble reading and writing now.

>>15893997
This

Also, in case anyone here is too dumb to realize: 4chan is also social media.

babe new propaganda just dropped

>>15893975
The video is actually decent but it fails to acknowledge that simply closing the pandora's box that is twitter doesn't actually solve the cultural incompatibilities we've discovered, it just silences them.

>>15894031
Niggers are Low IQ violent subhumans.

>>15893997
In a country of blind men, the one eyed man is king.
Just make sure it doesnt affect your children. Personally I spend most of my internet browsing on the fediverse. Its a breath of fresh air. Theres a sort of voluntary self filtering there. 4chan is really the only normie site I visit frequently.

>>15894010
Technically it's antisocial media.

>>15894042
>fediverse
>breath of fresh air
wtf am I reading? they are all rabid trannies seething 24/7

>>15894042
modern parents use the "phone" to keep their children in control
Just give the kids endless media to consume and they shut up.
I have seen this many times myself, whole generation of children will grow up to be to literal retards

>>15893979
>>15893991
Kek.
>Kurzgeschissen read this thread and this is its redponse video:
>>15881035

>>15893975
>"Oh no people are actually learning what others think and they don't like it, we need to go back to when we didn't know or understand how evil people were so we can wander forth in ignorance"
no

>>15893975
Lmao

>>15894077
>>15894085
He's mad lolol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjHMoNGqQTI - How Kurzgesagt Cooks Propaganda For Billionaires

>>15894105

Edit: Now watching the video it does have a point
(But even if the video has a point it does have some catch to push an agenda)

The internet is in fact worse than ever due to censorship and surveillance. You get banned from all social networks if you talk about your vaccine injury. Fuck Pfizer. Fuck Moderna. Fuck everyone who pushed that poison that destroyed my life.

>the irony of spambots pushing a video claiming internet is going to the shiter

>>15894010
The difference is, without continuity of identity, you can't brew real hate between people, because we may very well converse and agree on some topics while never being aware that it's the same person we disagreed with before on some other topic.

Unless you put on a trip, but then it's easy, everyone hates tripfags.

>>15894135
Yeah, this. As much as 4chan is viewed as a cesspool, even by its own users, it's much better suited to detribalising issues than anywhere else on the internet.

>>15894135
>The difference is, without continuity of identity
But there is continuity of identity. We categorize what we read and we love or hate these categories.

>>15894145
>But there is continuity of identity.
No there isn't (nta, just to prove the point)
>We categorize what we read and we love or hate these categories.
In other words, engaging with what's actually being said rather than who said it.

>>15894042
>In a country of blind men, the one eyed man is king.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man will be shot. Idiot.

>>15894153
>In other words, engaging with what's actually being said rather than who said it.
Nah, that's not how it usually works. Anon reads what I say, and thinks "He's an X!" and then starts ranting about vaccines or Israel or whatever other views he attributes to X.

>>15894184
Or how you're using this opportunity to chase ghosts in your own head

>>15894173
He'll be shot but not hit.

>>15894153
>engaging
The devil is in this ambiguity. Constructive debate is not only about who or what we relate to but how we relate. For example: intention / goal-setting. I'm afraid that most people aren't even aware of their own intentions. That's a reason why npc's exist: they don't know what they're doing. Are they engaging to win, to understand, to stimulate or distract themselves etc.? They don't reflect on that.

>>15894228
>That's a reason why npc's exist: they don't know what they're doing. Are they engaging to win, to understand, to stimulate or distract themselves etc.?
nta but good point

>>15890890

Peak example of basedence, the earth will never run out of oxygen unless all air evaporates in to space

Increased carbon dioxide does cause warming though which has other real negative side effects

>>15894242
Fuck I replied to the wrong thread

>>15894123
what happened to you that destroyed your life?

>>15894314
The Pfizer vaxx gave me a crippling autoimmune disease similar to MS.

>internet used to require a pc to use
>all the plebs were kept out that way
>then apple had to go make a goddamn phone that could go on the internet as well
>the floodgates were opened, every retard on the planet can go online now

>>15894331
>implying that oldfags don't behave like retards too.

>>15894319
Do you want a genuine recommendation to fix your fucked up nervoussystem?

>>15894319
fabricated and homosexual

>>15894056
How the fuck do I stop my little sister from doing this?? It's honestly disgusting to see this kind of neglect from my father, I've thought of just straight up snatching the phone from her hands and not giving it back.

>>15894461
as a 45 year old today I appreciate this. You faggot teenagers need to know that there was never a magical internet culture that shared a bunch of magical secret special shit it's always been 99% trolls and retards and 1% feds.

>>15894471
You don't because your parents will likely just punish you and give her the phone. All you can really do is watch and ensure it doesn't happen to your kids and when your parents reap the consequences you remind them of what they did.

I have no kids, but I don't give a fuck how bad the social consequences are, they will never have a phone or tablet until they are 21. It's fucking insane to see everything playing out in real time, but the adults all around me are so happy to just go along with it. I don't get it, since they and I both remember the pre-internet world and didn't grow up like this. I know it's apathy but if they cared that little why the fuck did they have kids?

>>15894500
>teh radio listening stories so cool
>muh kids watch screen i haate it

>>15893975
>Sciense says

I wish this was auto-filtered to something else like onions is

>>15894123
amen brother

>>15893975
we are not the ones who detonated the woke bomb when Occupy Wall Street happened, they did it and many felt for it
And big tech and corporate media fanned it's flames for profit not caring about the awful social consequences, they are the ones who profit spreading hate and governmental misinformation

>>15894500
>your parents
parent*, she's my half-sister but I still care about her
>All you can really do is watch
Unacceptable, I can not let my sister grow up to be a retard
>but the adults all around me are so happy to just go along with it. I don't get it, since they and I both remember the pre-internet world and didn't grow up like this.
I know right, she should be reading books and learning about the world instead of scrolling tiktok, it's infuriating

>>15894537
>woke bomb
>when Occupy Wall Street happened
I lost whatever childhood respect I had for the feds at exactly this moment in time.

>>15893975
>social media gives normalfags a reason to start using the Internet when previously mostly just nerds used it regularly
>retards flood the Internet
>smartphone ownership rising among third world 70 IQ brainlets
>even dumber retards further flood the Internet
Damn, I wonder what caused the decline in quality.

>>15894573
If it's any consolation she won't be behind her peers. Most of them will probably be unable to focus on anything either.

>>15894594
>decline in quality
newfag af desu

I feel like I recall that I had to go to a UBS office to sign Helene's fraud contract around 2007. The dates on these articles from last week seemed to align well with the email I sent to Helene's lawyer about my intention to have those fraud contracts voided.

UBS CEO says private buyer preferred outcome in case of rescue
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/ubs-ceo-says-private-buyer-preferred-outcome-in-case-of-rescue/ar-AA1kneyx

UBS's head believes the bank is not too big to fail.
https://www.finews.com/news/english-news/60289-sergio-ermotti-ubs-rescue-too-big-to-fail-manager-liability-english

>>15894602
It really isn't, modern "content" is total brainrot beyond just stunting development, but skewing perception of what is normal to do, I must do everything in my power to get her off that shit

>>15894611
>nigger lingo using retard posing as an oldfag
lol

>>15893975
Time to regulate it and give more power to the government of course!
Remember what this channel repeatedly says: You cannot combat climate change with individual actions, only the government and policymakers(tm) are brave enough to take away our righ- i mean tackle climate change!

>>15893997
Result of dysgenics too. Only couple where both parents are on welfare have above replacement rate fertility. Complex civilization breeds terrible traits, resulting in collapse.

>>15894631
>zoomer thinks the posting was better on usenet
many such cases

>>15894010
no, you don't really understand what social media means in the sense that people refer to it when discussing declining internet quality. you're being disingenuous because adopting the posture of the guy even more cynical than the others makes you feel cool

protip: internet forum sites with more social aspects than this imageboard have existed for longer than you've been alive, and they weren't the problem

>>15894642
wow, the newfag namedropped usenet, that makes him totally cool and credible

>>15894594
yeah and keeping them off platform goes head to head with like...money. how solve this apart from nsaciafbi honeypot?

>>15894123

social media is not going away its a invaluable tool for governments, business and society to indoctrinate and monitor populations. The problem is censorship after the fat of wrongthink is not good enough since if any people see it damage is done. AI censors may be the solution to this - evaluating social media posts before they ever become visible and flagging the poster for silencing.

>>15894807
>after the fat

*after the fact

>>15894010
I just have to wonder what it is about socialization that thoroughly takes a majority of our focus and makes our brains feel so good they melt in chemicals even under the guise of anonymity and, supposedly, any biological benefit. I can understand why psychosomatic monstrosities designed for addiction like TikTok or Instagram would rot your brain, but why does 4chan also fit the bill so well?

they're right

>>15894083
the internet is not a place where people just interact. It's intentionally curated and managed to cause the most unproductive possible discourse. It's only useful in the hands of an intelligent & emotionally mature individual

>>15894857
>to cause the most unproductive possible discourse.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cBpENf7NRTg
basically

>>15894857
>It's intentionally curated and managed to cause the most unproductive possible discourse.

the effect twitter has on people is pretty fascinating. Simply by virtue of its design it encourages people to attack other parties seeking approval (re-tweets) from their own group. Its also habit forming as people like elon musk and trump demonstrate being unable to stop posting even if it is hurting their interests.

Faggot

>>15893975
You know how TV became full of ragebait scripted reality peograms? That's what has happened to the internet as well. And yes, the scripted part too through bots.

>>15894135
I hate you all equally. There's that.

>>15894463
Sure, I'm desperate for any recommendation. I doubt though that there's a cure. Two different hospitals specialized on neuromuscular diseases couldn't help me and I tried pretty much all of those memes propagated on /pol/ regarding food / supplements.

>>15893975
Best video Kurzestein made.

>>15894010
>4chan is also social media
No it's not because women don't use it.

>>15895183
>build trust
>abuse it
every single time.

>>15894123
but you won't do jackshit will you?
hahahaha

oh they're at the stage I was, in 1998 when I first got trolled by someone on newsgroups?

sounds about right for senior people and kids first learning about the internet today.

>>15894638
This is all the fault of the socialist vermin. There is no reason at all why civilizations should become unnecessarily complex and filled with parasites. The only way forward is extreme brutal violence against niggers and jews.

>>15893997
Define dysgenic

>>15894638
>Complex civilization breeds terrible traits, resulting in collapse.
What if it's the opposite?
Dysgenical indivituals flourish in modern societies and eugenical ones diminism.

>>15894622
>I must do everything in my power to get her off that shit
Man in the middle attack to intercept the shit traffic and feed her good curated content at least. This is technically a crime but do it, poosy. You won't

>>15893975
Internet has become a place for utmost censorship, political propaganda, and propaganda tools for the establishment elites. They control all the top 100 sites, their revenue, their information flow, their narrative, their boards, etc.

Centralization was a mistake in that it gives absolute control over narrative/censorship to those who control the companies. Not CEO or the founder, but the advertisers who are controlled by WEF and run DNC propaganda

you can tell Kurzgescheissen was slowly compromised just by the degeneration of the art style over time. It used to be cheap and minimalist. The common trope was every character was represented by a bird. Now they stuff every frame with as much shit as possible and try to grossly imitate the old artstyle by making everything look "flat." The characters are all now dysgenic humans, and the birds are rarely seen.

All that is not to say the old artstyle was pretty - it wasn't. It was cheap and minimalist. It showed the character of the channel. But it was also clean. The artstyle of today is just simply an ugly mockery of the old. And it also shows the character of the channel.

This is why people care or should care about aesthetics. Aesthetics lets you look into the soul of the person who designed/made it. Sometimes you'll find good things; other times, bad.

Kurzgesagt are soi fuck reddit scum. S, hope they get what's coming to them

>>15894077
>>15894085
>>15894087
They were so mad about it they actually changed the video thumbnail after being called out by /sci/ once again

>>15895663
You think I have any clue how to do that?

>>15893975
>Video ignores the fact that companies like FaceBook, Twitter, Tiktok, Instagram, Reddit, etc., all put these algorithms in place
>All of these websites either have employees or mods who police content, and choose what to promote or cancel.
>Doesn’t mention how websites like 4chan are much better
>Doesn’t mention how after Occupy Wall Street, companies like the New York Times started reporting on “racism” like 400% more often
>Doesn’t mention how Leftists infiltrated websites prior to 2016, and kept it up while Trump was president (even before that, Reddit was pro-Ron Paul in 2008 before all of the neutral mods from /r/politics were removed)
Very weak video overall. Then again I have a healthy usage of social media because I don’t go on TikTok or Twitter, I rarely go on FaceBook, and I was banned from Reddit by the Chinese government.

>>15895939
That's actually just them doing the sort of cynical manipulation of "the algorithm" they're talking against. Youtubers will often use a provocative thumbnail for the first 24-48 hours to drive up initial views, before switching to something tamer for the long term.

>>15893975
You tell us, astroturf.

>>15893975
Time to ban those germs. Is simple as that.

>>15894123

>>15895939
we live rent free in kurggies brain

>>15895974
ironic innit

>>15895706
Birds don't count for diversity. They need to swap to humans so they can meet the skin color checklist requirements.

>>15894042
>Personally I spend most of my internet browsing on the fediverse.
Nigger how is that any better?!
Theres a sort of voluntary self filtering there.
It's where the undesirables go. Can you really say you'd rather talk to pedos/trannies/zoos (guess I repeat myself) than normies?

>>15895941
it doesnt work anymore, this guy is going off some hacking thing he heard ten or more years ago, it hasn't worked since HTTPS, or he's just having a laugh

>>15896143
when you have physical access to a computer, you can still make it work. Just add a custom certificate to her browser. Like honest Ahmed's used cars and certificates back then.

>>15896524
that makes sense, I stand corrected

>>15893975
I'm guessing he says it's because of evil heckin chuds and not corporate shills/bots?

>>15893997
Its not because of social media, but because of vaccines and parents neglecting their children.

>>15896524
>computer
Who uses tiktok on a computer, she has a phone

>>15897357
No, it's because we're all stupid, apparently.

>>15894123
Reminder that the government is instrumental in perpetuating the existence of monopolies and regulating away competition.

>>15893975
>you guys did a heckin wrong think
that channel is funded mainly by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

>>15898787
You should try to be aware of your own cognitive biases and the evolutionary shortcomings hardwired into the human mind.

>>15894573
>Unacceptable, I can not let my sister grow up to be a retard
Oh, you will.
>I must do everything in my power to get her off that shit
You conviction is there, I feel, but you need to understand something another anon already told you >>15894500:
>All you can really do is watch and ensure it doesn't happen to your kids
She's not your daughter, she's your sister; she already has parents.
Talk to them, have a reasoned, informed, civil discussion, bring up sources and substantiate your claims, by all means; even better if you can offer practical and immediate solutions.

However, you need to let go of that righteousness, and then understand most parents don't let it happen out of some nefarious desire to see their own kids fail.
It's because modern life is a disgusting, mind-numbing slaughterhouse for the self, individual and collective, where tired, overworked, underpaid, goyslop-underovernourished, physically, mentally and spiritually exhausted people will take whatever fucking second of respite they can get - if the phone or tablet does it, so be it.

>>15893975
Its the easy acess to the internet and low IQ normies flooding it. If you entangle yourself with bullshit like social media you only have yourself to blame.

>>15894046
The official stance of most fediverse servers is that Free Speech is a bad thing.

I'm serious. They had a fediverse discussion thread and talked through it, and agreed to defederate any server that allowed hate speech, or simply any speech that was unkind in any way.

>>15893997
Social media is definitely bad overall. It can allow some people to make useful connections and have valuable interactions among other constructive uses, but the absolute vast majority of it is toxic as all Hell and the damage it does probably vastly outweighs the benefits in the end.
>>15894010
You're correct and what I said above largely applies to 4chan as much as any other social media website. That being said, this site plays out mostly like a source of laughter for me personally. It's one of the few places left on the internet where people don't seem to be taking the internet seriously.

Meanwhile, Reddit is a dystopian propaganda machine like nothing else I've ever seen before. Even X/Twitter is better than Reddit at this point. If you actually read up on how Reddit works structurally, the only conclusion you can arrive at is that it needs to be destroyed because it is objectively one of the most evil websites on the internet that manages to get a good amount of traffic.

>>15893975
the "scianse" wasn't here when porn and gore was freely traded on safe for work boards and AOL chatboards.

>>15899466
Yes because the internet was objectively better then

>>15895185
Femanon here. Yes, we do. Cope and seethe.

>>15901414
Tits + timestamp or gtfo

>>15899199
Care to elaborate on your last point? Algorithms and moderators are lame as hell, but I'm not sure I would call Reddit more evil than any given Zuck platform.

>>15898610
>parents neglecting their children
this. why parent them when you can just hand them a smartphone and have them sit quietly?

>>15902726
NTA, but it's all about incentives and feedback.
Reddit trains you to accept totalitarianism.
4chan only trains you to bait people.