/sci/ - Science & Math

/sci/ schizoscience
>Gather "evidence" from single headline

>Call everyone who disagrees with you a shill

>Claims are unfalsifiable as any refuting is "Jewish propaganda"

>Never do an experiment:Too poor to afford a lab and too lazy schizo to use someone else's

>Refuse speak to anyone outside of echo chamber about claim

>NEVER change unless it's to move the goalpost

>>15547203
Lone mavericks working in isolation should be removed. A lot of worthless pseudoscience comes from research-by-committee.

>>15547227
Why are you even on 4chan if seeing opinions from outside of your MSM safe space triggers your emotions so badly? Just use Facebook or Reddit instead and you won't have to be so upset all the time

>>15547249
I believe you were trying to reply to the OP. Let me help you. >>15547203

>>15547260
No it looks like he quoted the right post.

>>15547261
Nope. Chuds don't "embrace" criticism. They scream shill 1000 times.

>>15547286
What the heck is a "chud?" Are you having a stroke?

>>15547288
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Maga%20chud

>>15547249
>opinions
Schizoscience detected. Add "immediately become personal and defensive" to the list.

Dogmatic and unyielding lone mavericks working in isolation making grandiose claims that go beyond the evidence actually (sometimes) discover things though.

>>15547402
>urbandictionary
redditdictionary

>>15547227
glowposting is against the rules shill

>>15547286
as opposed tohou trannies who say men are women then scream child and Nazi at whoever points out you are mentally deranged?

>>15547632
q.e.d.

>>15547203
Remove the left column and relabel the right column as "modern science".

>>15547227
Tranny communist, everyone knows you LGBT freaks just wanted to marry and adopt so you could have access to kids to rape.

>>15547249
Yeah, look beyond the evidence provided by mainstream science, listen to the lone mavericks working in isolation on /sci/! wait...

>>15547461
And everyone here thinks they are that person
like >>15547747
Pure unyielding dogmatism jumping to conclusions

>>15547203
Honestly OP, it's like someone held up a mirror to you. And then you didn't like what you saw. So you took a sharpie and wrote "liberal" on the mirror. And now you're looking in the same mirror and laughing at the ugly troglodyte labelled "liberal". It's peak cope tbqhwy. I don't see how any of you can deny it, either. How many threads here are devoted to metaphysics? How many of you disagree with the entire scientific community on just about every important topic? Even just labelling "pseudoscience" as "LIBERAL psuedoscience" is an inherent act of dogmatism and working backwards from a conclusion. But you will deny it, of course, because what does a valid logical argument mean to you?

>>15547203
science: co2 doesn't cause the greenhouse effect on mars so it cannot cause the greenhouse effect on earth

pseudoscience: co2 doesn't cause the greenhouse effect on mars but al gore and gretchen thunderburp says it causes the greenhouse effect on earth so it does, everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi chud

>>15547203
I do it the same way everybody else does. What agrees with my political beliefs is science, what does not agree with my political beliefs is pseudoscience.

>>15548538
How would you get enough CO2 on Mars for a greenhouse effect?

>>15547227
kek based fpbp

>>15547249
you are literally proving him right, holy shit

>>15547227
>>15547249
false flagging samefag

>>15547249
Based.

>>15547203
>>15547227
>>15548643
let me tell you something you stupid fucks. I'm engaging both in 4chan and reddit; both in leftist and right wing places; but here and there.

everywhere it's full of stupid fucks; leftists who keep repeating mantras; right wingers who keep repeating mantras.

>>15548749
and you never raise the bar of discussion. sure sure, everywhere you go just also happens to be shit. i believe you, honey.

>>15547249
Ironically you want a safe space yourself since seeing a different opinion makes you this irate

>>15547203
>lone maverick working in isolation

There goes all my autodidactic work in my into the shitter. Thanks for nothing anon

>>15547249
Fucking kek!

>>15547260
I believe you were trying to dilate the suppurating wound where they removed your tiny dick so you could pretend you're a woman even though you don't have a womb or a second X-chromosome.

>>15548785
>NO U!
He never expressed any desire for a safe space. Not once. He never expressed any irritation.

>>15547203
what you label liberals are not liberals just another corruption of the language

>>15549130
>I-I'm no- I m-mean "he"'s not m-mad!

What fascinates me most about this idiotic debate is that so many people think the media and politicians represent the experts, and then conclude the expert consensus must be wrong because the media and the politicians are wrong.

>>15547227
provide an example

>>15549126
We can't all have an extra chromosome like you

>>15549126
>pretend you're a woman
Okay, here's what bothers me about your implicit logic. If gender is just a synonym for sex, and if sex is entirely chromosomal, then how do you reckon that someone growing their hair out and putting on make-up and wearing a dress can at all be "pretending" to be anything? Did they alter their biology? No, they didn't even attempt to. So how is anything they do at all feminine? Your argument implicitly recognises the validity of gender as a concept separate from sex at the same time that you insist they're the same thing. It's a blatant contradiction.

>>15549388
Scientists are low IQ servants who only exist to serve the will of their high IQ political masters.

>>15550478
The power to influence your environment >>> the ability to understand it. Bullies will always wipe the floor with nerds. Power politics is the only thing that matters. That's the only thing the far left gets right, and it's why Mearsheimer is the man.

>>15547249
NPCs should be banned from 4chan, they interfer with the gestalt

>>15547466
>>15547249
>YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO BROWSE /POL/ FOR INFORMATION ALL OTHER PLACES ARE TRYING TO BRAINWASH YOU!!

>>15547203
>Cherry picks only favorable evidence, relies on testimonials or weak evidence
This is extremely antisemitic

>>15552392
You're extremely anti-Semitic

>>15550478
>Scientists are low IQ servants who only exist to serve the will of their high IQ political masters.

diberal sniberals are such pseudoscientists!!! i want to pwn them so badly so they know that conservative science is the only real one out there!!!

>>15547249
Lot of trannies on 4chan cross post on sites. They get triggered all the time lmao

>>15547249
Non-basednazis actually have less arguments on 4chan than the average basednazi.

>>15553033
-based +Sºy

>>15547227
based

>>15547203

KEK theory of evolution and palaeontology are literally pseudoscience

>>15547227
fpbp

>>15547249
>proves the post right in one reply

>>15547203
Open minded, inclusive vs Credentialism, appeal to authority

>>15547227
Kek

>>15547227
It's /sci/'s time for this meme

>>15554046
just merge the boards already

>>15554046
>Right-wing racism
>Actually exists and incredibly common
>Left-wing racism
>Only exists in the fevered imagination of rightoids
>Normal
>What the left actually wants
Centrists get the bullet too

>>15554046
left to right:
120 IQ
100 IQ
80 IQ
140 IQ

>>15547203
kek, you made them seethe so much they linked this thread in their discord

Based! Those highly influential and dangerous s*yientists will never recover from this. Just... thank you.

>>15556287
>More /sci/ hypocrisy

>>15554046
>The mainstream right
>The mainstream left
>The radical left
>The radical right

>>15554046
bottom right panel is just a normal, mentally healthy person asserting their desire to fit in with the mainstream of society
heres a thread about the mental illness cause by constantly trying to identify yourself as an outcast and victim of of society and how common that is amongst negroes and other minorities >>15536543

>>15551443
Thats an intended effect

>>15554046
these two panels are identical

>>15554352
Don't you have a city to burn and kneel for bbc faggot slut?

>>15548751
You're a negro jew. What an annoying existence

>>15547203
You should include examples.
E.g. intelligence being largely genetic, intelligence being predictive of nation's success, covid vaxx efficacy/lethality, gender pay gap due to women not negotiating a higher pay and choosing shit non-STEM careers, etc.

>>15547203
>What would I remove?
This thread, and your brain from your skull

>>15560153
Bold of you to assume he has a brain.

>>15548637
CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas

>>15548538
>I dont know how atmospheric pressure works
Mars has a tiny fraction of the amount of CO2 as Earth does because it barely has an atmosphere.

>>15560634
Mars has 2000% more CO2 per unit area.

>>15560636
Mass of Mars' atmosphere: 2.5x10^16 kg (pressure is .006 atm)
Mass of Earth's atmosphere: 5.15x10^18 kg (pressure is 1 atm).
The Martian atmosphere is less than .5% as massive as Earth's. By mass, Mars has less CO2 than Earth.

>>15560659
you are low iq

>>15560659
Total mass doesn't matter in a vacuum because it doesn't tell you anything. Amount per unit area is the only valid metric. That's the only relevant thing if you want to claim a greenhouse effect because it dictates the mean free path.

>>15560667
Lower atmospheric mass = less CO2 even if the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is higher.
And there's also the fact that Mars is about 1.5 times farther from the Sun than Earth, so it receives less solar radiation.

>>15560690
you are low iq

>>15560690
The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2 and Mars has no greenhouse effect. How can CO2 be a greenhouse gas on Earth if it isn't one on Mars?
On Earth CO2 catalyzes the storage of solar energy in organic matter, sunlight is absorbed and never reemitted at any frequency, CO2 in effect acts as a coolant by catalyzing photosynthesis.
Mars doesn't have that process and yet Mars has no greenhouse effect.

Basedboys are the greatest threat to humanity right now. And that's.... not a joke!

>>15560659
Which is heavier
95% of 2.5x10^16 kg
0.04% of 5.15x10^18 kg

>>15561273
don't forget to account for mars' much smaller surface area

>>15560766
antibiotics have allowed all of the genetic trash to survive childhood diseases that used to wipe them out and now we're paying the price with an overpopulation of retards

>>15547249
triggered lol

>>15561273
ppl believe in global warming because they can't do math

>>15547203
maybe something about coincidentally agreeing with the point of view of those that funded the research/organization...

>>15563944
sort of there with the first point but if doesn't really point out how funding is behind a lot of it

>>15547227
HOLY BASED AND UMOGGABLE CHADSENSE

>>15547670
This jew whipped conservatards lie about science just as much as libturds
I mean smoking is objectively bad for you and objectively alters your body's chemistry and physiology, but yet they still defend tobacco companies to the death

>>15552874
I became antisemitic the second they cut off my dick when I was born

>>15559249
Since when are asian people white?

>>15554046
this one always get to me.
>How to say N***** without saying Nigger, bravo, well done, great job

>>15554046
Jews:
>oy vey who cares if she's my cousin it's for our jewish race
>oy vey I only hire jews but sprinkle in some asians and white women to pretend we're diverse
>oy vey you filthy mulism I'm gonna deport you back to sweden
>bagel room kvetch room
>I'M NOT FUCKING WHITE

>>15563955
Unless you're Jewish yourself you have puritan Christians to thank for that, dickless.

>>15564029
>IT'S DA CHRISTOOOOONS
then why do liberals cut their kids too?

>>15564048
Firstly, a majority of liberals are Christian. Secondly, it's because Christians decided it should be common practice in America.

Here's what I would add:

>Starts with a conclusion, then works backwards to confirm.
e.g. creationists, race realists

>Hostile to criticism.
e.g. /pol/cels

>Uses vague jargon to confuse and evade
e.g. theologians

>Grandiose claims that go beyond the evidence.
e.g. conspiracytards, janusfags

>Cherry picks only favorable evidence, relies on testimonials or weak evidence.
e.g. antivaxxers, UFOfags

>Uses flawed methods with unrepeatable results
e.g. flat earthers, mediums

>Lone mavericks working in isolation
e.g. holocaust deniers, flat earthers, breatharians

>Uses inconsistent and invalid logic.
e.g. JQers, theologians

>Dogmatic and unyielding
e.g. creationists, mediums, flat earthers

>>15564048
imprisonment... they are always the first to cave.
>trust the 'experts'

>>15564057
>a majority of liberals are Christian.
none of them are

>>15563953
>objectively
the objective data contradicts your emotions and feelings

>>15564082
>inside you there are two wolves
>it never happened
>they deserved it
>both are right

>>15560703
>The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2 and Mars has no greenhouse effect. How can CO2 be a greenhouse gas on Earth if it isn't one on Mars?
It can't be, CO2 is not a greenhouse gas

>>15565315
You're right. I forgot to add it to inconsistent logic.

>>15564762
>unironically using the no true scotsman fallacy in 2023

>>15552392

>>15547203
peer review is pseudoscience

>>15568173
yep, science turned to shit when peer review became commonplace and the midwits took over authority over the publishing process

>>15547203
>>15547244
this
lone mavericks are and always have been the true champions of truth(and most other virtues too)

>>15567436 >>15567405
>>15568173 >>15568162
>>15569108 >>15568162
Scientifically speaking, why do you choose to bump your shit threads at these specific times?

>>15567436 >>15567405
>>15568173 >>15568162
>>15569108 >>15569089
Scientifically speaking, why do you choose to bump your shit threads at these specific times?

>>15549663
You also made an implicit assumption that invalidates your entire argument once considered false: that the social concept of femininity is the same as the female gender. If one chooses to separate the two (i.e being feminine is unrelated to being female) then there's nothing wrong with the gender = sex idea. But that also means that the other anon would still be wrong since he claimed being feminine is the same as "pretending to be a woman" but it's as simple as saying that the previous statement "being feminine is the same as pretending to be a woman" was false.

>>15569170
announcing a sage is against board rules

>>15569174
>You also made an implicit assumption that invalidates your entire argument once considered false: that the social concept of femininity is the same as the female gender.
That's not an assumption, that's a simple question of definition. That is in fact what most people are using the word to mean, but my point is exactly this, that the concept doesn't go away just because you stubbornly refuse to refer to it and insist that English needs to words for the same thing instead.

>>15569396
two* words

>>15569396
I know that, after all it's what it traditionally has meant, but that's something can change and seems to be changing with all the distancing from gender roles due to the feminist/general progressive movements.

>>15569414
that can change*

>>15569400
>>15569418
People are going to call us samefags for this, you realise

>>15569428
Why should I care what people call me? Plus this is just a conservation between me and a chatbot so it doesn't matter what bystanders say.

>>15569439
conversation*

>>15569442

soience on the left, science on the right

>>15570588
Hitler avoided saturated fat, red meat, and cholesterol.

science: skepticism

s o y e n c e: its true because a guy wearing a lab coat and glasses says so

>>15571543
If you're sceptical of learned experts but incredibly credulous towards every headline you read on twitter, you're not really sceptical, you're biased

>>15572320
exactly wrong, the scientific method functions via advancing knowledge by disproving the so-called experts.

>>15572827
That would require evidence, not credulity.

>>15550485
Spend your life gaining power just to have power and get certain things you want? This is just an empty, vapid life that may look good from the outside but in the end is meaningless unless you understand your surroundings and make decisions based off of that.

>>15547249(You)
>>15547227(You)
happy?

>>15573236
stfu nerd

>>15549453
you're on 4chan, mate

>>15571406
True and real, the painter was 100% soicialist.

>>15565843
True and real, that is why they are so desperate to add random shit into the list of "greenhouse" gasses, like cow farts.

>>15547227
holy jewposting

>>15551443
That gestalt is what jews fear more than anything

>>15573954
If you truly believed that you'd love socialism

>>15565843
even if it were, it isn't a meaningful or significant one on earth. but it isn't, because if it were then mars would have a massive greenhouse effect

>>15576120
Belief in global warming requires ignorance of the underlying science

>>15548538
this

Science IS liberal pseudoscience. I hate fags that think 'scientific' is a goof thing.

>>15560634
>I dont know what mean free path is

>>15573016

Given that women now get nearly 2/3 of all university degrees and given that no woman has ever contributed to advancing scientific knowledge or ability in any meaningful significant way ever, I'm gonna say that if it comes from academia then its pseudoscience.
No coincidence that the replication crisis has grown in lock step with the female fraction of university degrees.

>>15552171
>YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO BROWSE /POL/ FOR INFORMATION ALL OTHER PLACES ARE TRYING TO BRAINWASH YOU!!

>>15569439
the bystanders are all bots too

>>15547227
BASED
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>>15573236
this a common coping mechanism for the powerless.
>everyone who is more influential than me is doing to wrong
>i am sooooo much better than them
>***engages in power fantasies***

>>15547203

https://youtu.be/0514L2QwOBE

>>15585263
good video

>>15547203
There is no such thing as "liberal" anymore.
The ideology of liberalism definitely died in 2012, exactly like the practice called "science" died in 2020.

>>15586809
Liberalism is alive and well and functioning as intended, and you are still a massive pseud for trying to attribute pseudoscience as a concept to a particular ideology. As I pointed out before, that is inherently dogmatism and working backwards from a conclusion.

>>15586978
You sound like a pseud yourself.
It makes perfect sense when ideology a is associated with religious belief and rejection of science and ideology b is associated with atheism and emrace of science. Ideologues b would be the prime candidate for being pseuds

>>15586809
science died when peer review became commonplace in the 1960s

>>15547203
>Infographic from Skeptic's Guide to the Universe
They're just as guilty of pushing all the shit on the right hand side
dismissed with the push of an elevator button.

>>15547227
midwits btfo not a SINGLE refutation to this itt

>>15547203
Everything on the 'liberal' column is also true of conservatives (creationists)

>>15563960
Since they started getting rejected at the same high rates as whites at prestigious colleges.

>>15563965
Needs all 3 with the header to get the point across on its own.

>>15547203
Why do you chud mongrels always use low-quality jpegs for your infographics?

Are you afraid of the vaxx hiding in lossless file formats?

>>15576120
Surely you got a source to that fancy jpeg, chud?

Yeah, of course not.

>>15587025
Right, those who embrace science are the ones who don't embrace science, that follows logically. Well, I suppose it does to you, ideologue A.

>>15587634
Especially true

>>15563610
its funny because its true

>>15552171
Legitimately, isn't it's true?