/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12373063
Cocky businessman born into money, praised by brainlet simps who think he bootstrapped himself

and he names his kids weird shit

Brainlets hate him

Redpilled

>>12373070

>Cocky businessman born into money,

Irrelevant. Call him anything you want, but out of all the countless people those things apply to, he is the one doing actual good stuff. He deserves acknowledgement for that.

>>12373063
50% real shit, 50% hype he'll never deliver on.

I think his opinions on mars and china are kind of brainlet but otherwise is doing a lot of cool shit for technology development.

>>12373063

>>12373116
Brainlet. Chink fear is the norm because we all subconsciously understand the rising threat. Ignoring that is stupid.

>>12373088
>be detective
>go into interrogation room where suspects are lined up
>make a comment like " the murderer was a really evil person"
>suddenly one of the suspects starts screeching about how dare the detective use hateful language and how he should stop discriminating against murderers
Really makes those neurons spark.

>>12373159
That wasn't even the point of his post, but it still triggered the same people.

Regardless he was trying to make a point to a journalist who was claiming elites want to suppress news media. Musk then replied in an obvious fashion that the elites actually own the news media.

Then they began further negative coverage of Musk and his companies for years to come

>>12373180
Yep, but the long nose tribe screeching was very amusing, more so as it was for nothing at all.
Really telling about their predominant schizotypical mindset and associated paranoid tendencies.

>>12373088

>>12373189
Any vague questioning of the victim status becomes assault in the eyes of those with twisted minds.
Noticed how nothing in the original post relates to those, yet some can't help themselves but employ the strawmanning tactics to inspire purity tests and affirmation of status quo.
How predictable of the inferior mind.

>>12373063
Last hope for a future.

>>12373249
Elon would never win an election because he would run as an independent.
no one votes third.
>>12373075
Midwits love him
geniuses couldn't give a fuck.
I mean honestly, you and me, we have to know how stupid we are right?
I mean we'd have to be borderline retarded if we thought we were actually geniuses.
If I was a genius I would be solving Millennium Prize Problems instead of posting about some guy who throws metallic shit into space.
Here's the verdict.
If you retards would stop shilling him he wouldn't be shat on.
This is a science and math board. Not a let me suck off this rich guy the board.
THIS IS NOT A CHARACTER CRITIQUE BOARD.
NOT SCIENCE OR MATH.
GTFO.
>>>/pol/

>>12373063
Anyone that shits on Elon at this point is just a contrarian.
His companies that he started and pumped money into, and then hiring the right people and makingthe correct deals, are succeeding more than he or anyone would have expected.
He must be doing something right, as at least two of his endeavors thus far have been very successful. Star link seems to be working well so far, with people getting low ping (for a satellite comms), high download and high upload, with only a portion of the satellites in orbit.
If anything he gives me hope. There's not too much else in this world that does that.

>>12373268
Found the brainlet

>>12373317
I think he's criticized because he's not a specialist. He started from PayPal, but he's the best rich guy for science out there ever.
I mean gates is a push over in comparison. The guy just blows his money circumcising and vaccinating poor worthless people.
Elon is putting in energy and wealth into making the human race slightly better.
And yeah he will be criticized, sometimes rightfully, like with his hyper loop egotism. But don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
I mean I'm not going to suck his cock like some of you retards, but I'm not going to shit one him.
I mean in 50 years when astroid mining is feasible it will be a game changer in terms of rare minerals.
We'll be able to create computer much cheaper.
The guy is a big of a whore with numbers though.

>>12373339
Is he in Henry Ford's league?

>>12373339
You can't own a bunch of companies and be a specialist.

>>12373358
Yeah exactly. That's my point.
He also shouldn't be.
It's a waste of his time.
He should be a specialist at making companies that work, then hire a bunch of loser faggot who got denied tenure as slaves to be his specialist.
The guy get's retardedly shat on specialists because he's not a specialist in whatever the fuck they are.

Makes accomplishlets seethe.

>>12373339
Brainlet

>>12373063
He shills science stuff that is not possible, like going to mars. On that he's pretty based. His electric car company is a hoax tho. He somehow saved it with the company's current ticker market cap.

>>12373070
he actually bootstrapped himself thanks to the internet revolution. Such a thing is hardly possible today.

>>12373471
>probes are currently on Mars
>impossible

>>12373088
>redpilled
>is third richest man with 100 billion net worth
>is part of the elite he's "bashing"
>b-b-but he's just just one of us
brainlets

>>12373063
It literally doesn't matter. NPCs will continue to worship him no matter what is said.

Based and redpilled.

Without him we wouldnt have reusable rockets, fast satellite internet or actually cool electric cars today. So I would say he is pretty based, although he has his faults as any human being.

>>12373597
I'm sure all the people talking smack about him have done, or plan to do, more.

>>12373317
well he exploited child for labor in bolivia

>>12373063
Unironically solved climate change by singlehandedly forcing incumbent car companies to switch to EV while becoming a billionaire

>>12373597
He wants to be Thomas Edison of our times.
I pray to all the gods who listen that he's much better than that fuck.

>>12373063
An extremely unlikable guy

most people cant fathom the extent of his importance to science and technology right now, if anything thats a greater indication of how much he has contributed, people cant wrap their heads around it. it kinda stings but he along with Jobs, Gates and their equivallents throughout history are the only reason we are where we are now, humanities boundaries and wellbeing is lead by a handful of people who put in so much more than they take that no normal person can look at them and not feel guilt for being useless in comparison.
who gives a fucking rats ass if hes not a specialist? most go waste 4-10 years sucking certificationary dick, only to spit out the knowledge

most people cant fathom the extent of his importance to science and technology right now, if anything thats a greater indication of how much he has contributed, people cant wrap their heads around it. it kinda stings but he along with Jobs, Gates and their equivallents throughout history are the only reason we are where we are now, humanities boundaries and wellbeing is lead by a handful of people who put in so much more than they take that no normal person can look at them and not feel guilt for being useless in comparison.
who gives a fucking rats ass if hes not a specialist? most go waste 4-10 years sucking certificationary dick, only to swallow the knowledge, line up, and have the same done to them

>>12373799
Redpill me on Gates. I think he's overrated as fuck and only got ahead because of nepotism and corruption. Please try to prove me wrong.

>>12373820
I don't think I'll be able to prove you wrong, my opinion on gates isn't really as positive as it is to musk's, he definitely comes off as snakey to me and in his early years used jobs genius to achieve his vision, there's a few interviews where he reminisces about not being the man Jobs was. from what I've read on both, Steve was an ass but Bill was a blanket hiding dark undertones, like that guy from American Psycho. that being said he did what was needed to achieve his vision with microsoft, there's a reason it and macOS are the only two serious commercial os rn. Bills definitely an interesting character to look into, nothing like musk, he kinda did his thing and became the greatest titan on a single thing, then just let his wealth and knowledge taper off to where it is now. i personally see the current work he's doing right now as a waste of his talents, and the money his way of offloading cost of brainpower, but it seems to be inefficient and makes me wonder what his endgame is. i guess the most logical answer would be he's had enough of being on top

>>12373863
also just to tack on at the end there, windows in itself is an enigma and may as well be classified as sole, major monopoly that has zero pressure, as far as I'm aware. hes no idiot and while people give windows shit, its more or less made the professional pc experience and opportunity universally accessable

>>12373863
>i guess the most logical answer would be he's had enough of being on top
According to Jeff Bezos, once he became the richest man in the world, Bill Gates, who had been on the top almost 20 years on and off, said to him thank you.

>>12373799
>Jobs, Gates
What did they do?
Gates did some C and C++ to make an os
Jobs sold a bunch of phones and laptops

>>12373820
Read up on him mang, Gates was legit gud in programming and maths. With a bunch of friends, he was searching for bugs in PDP-10s as a high schooler, and then he had a paper published at Harvard before dropping out in his second year. Then, they (Gates, Allen and a third guy who did the floating point routines) were the first to write a BASIC interpreter for the new Altair, which soon became the first product of uSoft.
Its very strange that a lot of people think he’s a scam nowadays. It’s quite embarassing that this bs is prevalent in /sci/ or /g/ too.

>>12373902
Even if he hasn't done one bit (lel) of programming his business acumen is legendary and he's an excellent manager/ceo. There's that video where he's yelling at people under his command for getting things wrong, which can fuck up their product, "NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS!"

He's a born-into-money faggot who presents inventions of others has his own on their expense. Only name on the neuralink papers was his own because he's narcissistic piece of shit.

Remember the diver he called a pedophile for saving the kids in a cave? Remember the blatant stock manipulation on twitter (saudis funding TSLA to go private)? Remember him marketing Tesla as self-driving before it killed few drivers?

>>12373893
>C
Lol. Try writing your own BASIC interpreter in Assembly. Using a self-made emulator on a PDP-10. Over one summer. In 4KBs of memory. Because that is precisely what Gates did.
>Jobs only selling phones
While it is tempting to shit on Jobs as he was gargantuan cunt, you got to give it to him that he had a great intuition about the needs of normies, which is a nice-to-have for a designer, not only a salesman.

>>12373910
Yeah, he is a demanding guy that is sure. But looking at the old team of uSoft (like Simonyi etc.), he was always surrounded by very high skilled, motivated people so I can get behind his low tolerance for bullshit.

75% showman
25% doer

>>12373880
wouldn't be surprised, being considered by many measures as the richest human being in existence probably leads to a bit of stress
>>12373893
i thought it was well known, bill gates was building a lot of the software for apple early on, making microsoft word for it, programming language, ect. while at the same time he sorta built microsoft as its own thing to go head to head with Apples market of OS
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Bill-Gates-steal-Steve-Jobs%E2%80%99-idea
Quora is opinionated, deboonk, ass, but there's further extrapolation in this post

>>12373063
Not the voice for humanity.

Inadvertently dangerous.

>>12373863
>>12373902
okay, thanks.
Either way, this project is insane and will probably get him killed and righteously so: http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2010/05/12/boys-with-toys-bill-gates-funds-geoengineering-projects/

>>12373952
You have no idea what humanity is all about.

>>12373961
Nor do you dickquad, that's the point, nor does he.

So go and take your face for a shit.

>>12373471
Hoax? I mean they make cars and people buy them.

>>12373964
Do you? (I do, but tell me first if you do)

>>12373063
Solid dude. Anyone with musk in their name must be solid.

Musk is a driven, narcissistic asshole who says stupid shit about things he has no deeper knowledge of. His recent opining over covid and the infamous pedo guy incident illustrate that well. Its weird to see someone squander so much goodwill so quickly. He has done great things, but it gets lost in noise.

>>12373973
Oh shut the fuck up. No you really don't know. He clearly thinks everyone is a sci-fan ready to colonise the Moon. For a fucking start I think that's a bad idea, I know from discussion on here that others have agreed.

Yet because he is the guy with the money he can assume whatever he wants and still do it anyway, that's why he is inadvertently dangerous.

Not like he ever thought about the idea that everyone would have to look at the moon and be aware of some rich turd on there with his gay sci-fi buddies.

Please fucking die in a car accident cheers.

>>12373987
> he's dangerous, because I will butthurt every thime I look at the moon
Why though? Fear is the first motivator of the scum. Greed is the second one (but humanity is all about getting pleasures and avoiding discomforts, which scientific progress definitely delivers, keep on seething or don't)

>>12373958
>2010 article on cloud whitening
I don’t really see anything insane here. Having been done a decade ago, if there were unpleasant consequences of these experiments, we would know already know of them.

>>12374000
Science delivers that? You mean endless headaches searching the obvious. Science confirms water is helpful to us.......... Science confirms fruit can be helpful .......

No stop deluding yourself you fucking infinitely small little dork.

Butthurt everytime. Hmmm you seem to missing the fact that, there would ACTUALLY be a moonbase on there, that can easily lead to bigger projects and possible mineral exploitation on big scales eventually.

That's called foresight you fucking pleb. That's the annoyance of looking at the moon as well, the inevitable.

You're just one of those little dorks who has their head stuck up a professor's ass crack with zero awareness of life around them until the professor takes a shit with new knowledge for you to consume and idolise.

Shove your idea of motivators up your ass.

>>12373063
Whether he is going to do the things he wants to do or not, his biggest contribution has been inspiring people to compete against him.
SpaceX may or may not be the company that gets to Mars first, but whoever does will only have done it because they were trying to beat them.
Neuralink may not be the company to first develop a full brain computer interface, but the people who do will have been inspired by them.

>>12374000
Sorry for being toxic. I just worry and feel adamant that the Moon could become defaced, blindly by overzealous types.
Probably not in my lifetime but that fervor to do so could easily start from cultural backing, which could be contributed by communities like this one. Not like I'm out to proactively dismantle movements or anything, I just simply stumbled upon this thread.

I had to apologise because it feels very out of shape for me to turn vulgar to those extremes, I do in fact suffer with conflicting minds.

I do respect science and it has very valid solid frameworks of understanding reality with past experiments lining up with the theory. And I know the framework allows for hope of finding new prospects quite easily without too much drama.

>>12374023
> reddit spacing
why?
> Butthurt everytime.
I see, but why?
Your grammar is all fucked-up of that butthurt, so it's hard for me to tell if you are pro or con that moonbase we'll eventually have.

>>12374085
Don't be scared, it's getting better all the time. We'll hear your concerns and will make you happy. Everybody will be happy, this we'll deliver and not with drugs. Take care, it's going to be fun.

>>12373070
>born into money
Bullshit.

>>12374085
>This. Must. Be. Stopped.

He showed that Jack Ma knows Jack Shit.

>>12374085
>>12374186
Compromise - colonization is only allowed on the far-side of the Moon

>>12374148
Ignore it, it's just leftists bought into fake news about his wealth as child.

>>12374186

Why? I think its beautiful.

>>12373914
Remember to get your shit straight before you post shit on the internet. None of the shit you said actually happened the way you descrived them.

>>12374211
He wasn't poor I guess but you can't really call them rich

You know, a country with money's a little like the monkey with a windmill. No one knows how he got it and danged if he knows how to use it!
>*chuckling*
>Heh-heh... monkey
The name's Musk! Elon Musk! And I come before you good people tonight with an idea. Probably the greatest... ahh, it's not for you. It's more a *Canada* idea.
>Now, wait just a minute. We're twice as smart as those fucking leafs. Just tell us your idea and we'll vote for it.
All right. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll *show* you my idea. I give you: The American Hyperloop Network!
>*gasps*
I've sold hyperloops to Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic and, by gum, it put them on the map!
>*tittering*
Yessir, there's nothin' on Earth, like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-pod hyperloop! What'd I say?
>Hyperloop
What's it called?
>Hyperloop
That's right! Hyperloop!
>Hyperloop
>Hyperloop
>Hyperloop
>I hear those things are awfully noisy.
No air in there, it's quiet and cozy!
>Is there a chance the pod could crash?
Not on your life my trailer trash!
>What about us braindead louts?
You'll get free rides on every route!
>Are you a conman without honor?
No, good sir, I'm Afrikaner
>I thought this beer had a twist-off cap.
Take my church key, my good chap! Come on, America, get a clue! Pull out your cash and pay your dues!
>Hyperloop!
What's it called?
>Hyperloop!!
Once again!
>Hyperloop!!!
>But the Interstate's still cracked and crumbling.
>Shut up, Boomer, quit your mumbling!
>Hyperloop!
>Hyperloop!!
>Hyperloop!!!
>...
>Hyper... d'oh!

>>12374208

Better compromise - it should only be allowed in the shape of a dick

>>12374248
Kek

>>12374231
They're trying to muddy the idea that Musk got his billions from his family. Which is bonkers given he didn't even have money to pay for his college education and came out thousands in debt.

>>12374248

>>12373562
Rich as he is, he hardly owns the press

>>12373562
If he's part of the elite, then why do the elites hate him so much? Just look at any Elon Musk/Telsa news in the last 10 years. Its all hate/fear/doubt/uncertainty from the elites who own the news media. Musk called them out on it and they put out more negative coverage.

Face it, your negative opinion of the man is more than 95% likely due to the news media brainwashing you.

>>12373987
>3 shitty paragraphs that are inherently both subjective and collectivist
Go away.

>>12373987
If I have to kill people like you to see a moon colony I would not hesitate in the slightest.

>>12373987
Not sure troll of extreme brainlet

>>12373987
yikes

>>12374481
Right, just like Soros isn't part of the elite since every mongoloid on facebook/twitter/news site that isn't even remotely left absolutely hates him as the big ebil man. You really are the sheep calling others sheep meme aren't you? News sites and online faggots hardly constitute "muh elite". No, not even nuh sjw actors/singers represent the elite. They're just dancing monkeys for the real elite, the bankers, the rich investors, the moguls, all of whom love Musk. Fucking retard

>>12374481
>Literally invited by US government to orchestrate coup against foreign country to reap benefits
>Isn't part of the elite because some hollywood tranny said he doesn't like him
Oh no no no ahahahahhahaha the absolute state

>>12374644
>Tesla the most shorted stock in the world
>loved by elites
LMAO

Tesla succeeded despites their attempts to kill it. You regularly hear all the news media calling Tesla investors as "cult stock" as derogatory statement. The investors in Tesla aren't elites but rather individual retail investors. Heck Tesla couldn't even be added to "elites" stock because elites hated the stock so much. But they couldn't hold out on Tesla because it was the biggest elephant in the room and denying entry would make the whole point of investing by elites foolish.

>>12374664
And we can do what we want with you third world commie shitters like you if you step out of your line to kill/starve your civilians.

>>12374644

>the bankers, the rich investors, the moguls, all of whom love Musk

Citation needed.

>>12374664

It was a Twitter joke to trigger commies. Only idiots believe he actually had something to do with any coup.

>>12374672
Ah so it's the /pol/tards that are worshipping this guy. Always have to have a daddy to bootlick

>>12374689
Commies get the rope.

>>12373562
This. Oldest tactic in the book.

>>12374687
Idiots and commies.

He is redpilled about the Great Filter and wants to do something about it. That makes him automatically better than 99% of other stupid rich fucks.

>>12374689
>m-muh /pol/

>>12374739
I assume he's one of the guys that doesn't constantly masturbate to the idea of wanting to use vaccines and shit to enslave everyone?

>>12374867
Why do you assume that? Did he masturbate into your ass and laughed evilly at you while he whispered in your ears about not being vaccinated?

>>12373063
He's relatively young, rich, and imaginative. At the very least he's better than the billionaires that did one innovative thing than sat on the fortune that it gave them and doing nothing other than giving a small amount to charity.

>>12373063
Whether or not they're genuine, he has great hopes and ambitions for humanity, he invests time and money intp projects that help accelarate humanity forward, and he serves as a great icon of our age, and will serve as an inspiration for generations. Love him or hate him, he is a net good for humanity.

>>12373268
I wasn't saying he'd run for president lmao. My point was that if he doesn't get Mars up and running, we're done. That's the last hope I was referring to.

>>12373573
The latest zeitgeist is that NPCs hate him. They're forever telling him he's problematic or reckless whenever he tweets. He's being set up to be the next Orange Man - perpetual target of hate.

He takes risks and he lets his employees take risks without having 234239432 managerial approvals. If you are a mid level engineer and want to go work at a place where they let you actually do cool shit, you go work for Elon. I know you fags think that kind of gig is easy to come by, but its not. People are taking huge paycuts to work for this guy and its not because of memes, its because he isn't a corporate oligarch whos fixated on next quarters profits. If i wasn't getting paid so well where i'm at, i'd go work for him.

>>12375135
schizo.

>>12375182
>he lets his employees take risks without having 234239432 managerial approvals
Ha.

>>12375214
yeah theres oversight, but its orders of magnitude less than other companies doing the same kind of work. Boeing, LMT, RTX are all extensions of the US government at this point and have adopted all that gubmint redtape culture.

>>12374609

>>12375209
>It's 2030
>You own nothing, and you've never been happier

>>12374248
fucking lmao
a post that is both inspired and high-effort

>>12375241
that electrode in the pleasure centres of your brain was worth it...

>>12375182
>he isn't a corporate oligarch whos fixated on next quarters profit
Which is why he busts unions and puts his workers at health risk
>Not like the other billionaires!
>Totes not hungry for profit he's just a benevolent visionary that wants to advance humanity

>>12375304
Unions are a waste of time and probably a communist hoax.
>puts his workers at health risk
The health of the individual is unimportant. The individual must die anyway, eventually. Only the objective matters.

>>12373317
>His companies that he started and pumped money into, and then hiring the right people and makingthe correct deals, are succeeding more than he or anyone would have expected.
The Boring Company? Neuralink? OpenAI? The only thing Elon Musk has accomplished is selling luxury vehicles and weapons delivery systems.

>>12373923
assembly is really not as difficult as people think

>>12375312
>Only thing
And that's more achievement than 99.9999% of people on this world.

>>12374248
nice

>>12373471
Why wouldn't going to Mars be possible?

It just wouldn't be a very useful thing to do in the foreseeable future, because Mars sucks.

I'm with Bezzos who sees more potential in space habitats.

>>12374186
>>12374212
I also think satellite views of city lights look beautiful.

They make cities feel like living things, that people are part of.

>>12375501
what are all these lights near the Ural mountains in Russia?
I thought not many people lived there

He is based, redpilled and will unironically become the richest man of the planet

>>12375314
While I agree that Assembly is romanticized, >>12373893 suggested that Gates "only did some C/C++ to make an OS" which greatly underestimates the effort that he put in in his early days.
As I said in >>12373923 he (together with Paul Allen and Monte Davidoff) wrote a full interpreter in it, which is not a trivial thing to pull off, even if you are good with your programming. If you say that is the equivalent of "doing some C/C++" then you are in serious denial about what it takes to build such a system.
I'm not saying it's something out of this world, though.

>>12376825
Building such a system in 1990 pales in comparison the work that is put into systems now.
Sure you have more tools, but expectations have increased more than tools have.
Only saving grace now is that people are more concerned with how it looks rather than how it operates.
However, Bill Gates achievements technically are not the same thing as starting and running a company that launches rockets, not should you compare the two.
Once Bill Gates made the first few versions of his product he dusted his hands of it, and handed It onto someone else, some other specialist. He then moved onto other philanthropic shit.
Bill Gates made one successful company and effectively retired.
Steve jobs is effectively a skilled Tech salesman. Sure he knows how to make the Tech, but he was far better at marketing and selling it.
These people are highly achieved, but are not comparable to Elon Musk because their areas are not the same.

>>12373923
I could do that in a summer if I had no commitments and there was no competition in the market.

>>12373063
hes nothing but a character to impress midwits and make them believe the ruling class will sort everything out and maybe even convince them that with enough hard work they will one day be like him
all he does is buy up promising companies, become CEO and then claim everything the scientists and factory workers achieve as his own accomplishment, like any bourgeois pig does.
he doesnt have any real skills outside of business, if that could even be considered a skill, but through his expert branding he perfectly embodies the venture capitalist image that techbros love so much, while literally all he does is own things that make him rich, propose absolutely retardet ideas like the hyperloop or those shitty car tunnels that will only appeal to his petite bourgeois fanboys.

>>12377319
>bourgeois
Thanks for letting us know not to take you seriously

>>12373088

BASED

>>12377349
you do know what the term means right? im not a communist, but the term exactly describes elon musks class position hence why i used it

>>12377363
>bitching about class
>bourgeois pig
>petite bourgeois fanboys
>not a communist
Lol okay idiot

>>12374076
>his biggest contribution has been inspiring people to compete against him.
Just look at the electric car markets now compared to what they were 15 years ago. Before Tesla and the Model S, electric cars were seen as nerdy cuckboxes on par with a household appliance. Now, in 2020 and beyond, every major automotive manufacturer is scrambling to create a bespoke electric car with luxury/performance underpinnings to take on Tesla because Musk made electric cars desirable to the mainstream audience and not just eco-minded people.

>>12373249
>>12373268
Elon's not an natural-born American.
He can't run for president.

>>12373063
he's a used car salesman loved by soiboys, and he's a manchild who probably has ass burgers.
Also made it possible for a bunch engineers to develop cool reusable rockets and he pisses off journalists so that's cool.

>>12377429
Neither is Ted Cruz

>>12377455
Yes he is. Ted Cruz's mother was American. That makes him natural born.

>>12377390
class is a very real divide and one of the most important
dont tell me this is the first time youve seen exagerrated or infammatory language on 4channel
petite bourgeois fanboys precisely describes people who look up to musk
am still not a commie

>>12377319
Well said

12377470
>4channel
No more (You)s from me

>>12377390
>noooo you can't criticize the upper classes without being a commie!

>>12373063
I don't like him, but I like what he's trying to do.

>>12373063
When's he going to jump on the nuclear train?

>>12373063
The verdict is that this war between faggots who love him too much, and faggots who hate him too much, is more annoying than ol'Muskie ever could be.

He's the only billionaire putting his resources toward technological progress. Other billionaires put their resources toward brainwashing you into becoming a tranny and other gay shit.

It's easy to tell why he gets attacked so much.

>>12378457
kek he is putting his money towards whatever gets him even more rich or whatever he personally thinks looks cool that he can toy around with other rich people with
>Other billionaires put their resources toward brainwashing you into becoming a tranny and other gay shit
go back

>>12378474
>go back
How does billionaire ass taste when you kiss it?

Went from under top 10 billion to 2nd richest person this year. Bezos is ~180B right now. Musk at ~128B

Musk threads really bring the brainless out of the woodworks.
You can't doubt Musk at this point. Every post I've seen that is criticising his achievements is a massive cope.
As far as billionaires go, Musk is the best one I can think of.

>>12373070
He is the best thing since Von Braun

>>12373562
>a boer is accepted into the elite
next time you will say the grandson of a goldrusher is also part of the elite

he sucks

>>12379948
based

>>12373932
This.

>>12378457
>Other billionaires put their resources toward brainwashing you into becoming a tranny and other gay shit.
He brainwashes the IFLS crowd into believing he is some sort of Iron Man

he makes unaccomplished people seethe and every macro goal he sets out for is to better the species. nobody else shrieks about the thousands of other billionaires doing dick-all with their money. you arent intelligent or special for wanting elon to fail. youre a retard for betting against someone who is only trying to improve things

>>12382550
>every macro goal he sets out for is to better the species
>who is only trying to improve things
>Making unreliable cars for rich people and selling false promises of Mars colonization is advancing the species
Kek

>>12382764
Are you insinuating the opposite would advance the species?
>never develop electric cars
>keep humanity a monoplanetary race
Is that what you're saying?

>>12373268
kys

>>12374689
kys2

>>12382779
>never develop electric cars
Cars already existed
>keep humanity a monoplanetary race
Space industry already existed

>>12382779
>implying elon did anything to develop electric cars
the scientists and engineers developed them, not some CEO who siphons money away from the workers. electric cars have been around for a while too
>implying elon will make a settlement on mars
companies have no incentive to do anything that doesnt net them a profit but keep coping

>>12382863
>some CEO who siphons money away from the workers
I would bet my fucking life that you're the same faggot that wrote >>12377319

>>12382863
And who organized the engineers and gave them time and funds and direction to develop it? People and resources don't naturally organize themselves into innovative, productive groups. It's probably the most brainlet take in this whole thread to say
>it happened therefore it was always going to happen so the person who made it happen can't take credit for it happening
Sorry pal, you're an idiot.

>>12382894
>who organized the engineers
The project managers silly
>and gave them time and funds and direction to develop it
The senior engineers probably
>People and resources don't naturally organize themselves into innovative, productive groups
They don't?

>>12373108
Pretty accurate.

>>12373187
It's also a flex for them. It's like the British Empire chimping when a raja got confused and didn't bow correctly to the queen. At the time, they portrayed it as a savage act of unwarranted aggression by the raja, for which he should be punished. Just about keeping the boot stuffed as far down onto the goy's throat as possible.

>>12379941
But anon, my seething against someone who's doing better things than me can't be because it shines a light on my failures. It has to be because he's bad. That's why I spend my time talking shit about beloved figures rather than focussing on bringing the worst acts of the most harmful figures to light.

>>12373268
Found the 130 IQ midwit, lol.

Real awkward when reddit trannies and /pol/ tards have the same misinformed talking points.

>>12384216
>the right and the left are both after me and they say the same things
Have you ever considered that you might just be incorrect?

>>12373108
Much better than sci's 90% seethe, 10% not delivered on.

>>12374148
Aside from the emerald mine meme his dad did have a lot of money, specially for a south african. He had enough that he managed to basically buy his mom who was a semi famous model. It's true he had it tougher later in life but he was definitely born in what you'd call a rich home.

>>12373562
Second richest now

>>12373063
He's ok. He knows his place. Do you know yours?

>>12385698
He's making a simulation joke

I guess /sci/ is reddit now. Everyone hates Musk for no reason. He's still a human you know lol. He does mistakes - like believing hyperloop would work. But still he has vision that we should all support. We don't have to be depressed about Earthly problems like overpopulation, lack of resources if we colonize more planets.

But i guess that's what the elite wants, they want us to be neurotic and miserable while spreading depressing news through every channel. You should feel depressed because there's too much people, you shouldn't want to have kids because of that. You should feel depressed because the earth is going be heat up dramatically, you should feel depressed because we won't have enough fuel and space to grow crops and we'll all die. This is what they're feeding you while Elon is trying to give hope.

Kys demoralization bots.

>>12385961
You should feel depressed because most people need to wageslave all their lives. I could care less about the planet.

>>12385970
>I could care less about the planet.
Surely you meant couldn't

>>12385970
What does that have to do with Musk? You're jelly that he isn't a wageslave and that's why you hate him? What's your point.

>>12385961
Agreed with everything except this stupid ass "elites" shit. There are no elites. And there are no supposed elites who want you or anyone to be neurotic. Stop with this schizo shit. If you want to talk elites, Elon is one of the few elites that actually exist in the world.

>>12373063
You need to go back

>>12385970
>You should feel depressed because most people need to wageslave all their lives. I could care less about the planet.
Sure, fuck the planet, but this planet hosts some of the most interesting and morally-relevant things in the universe.

Don't fight for the planet, but fight for life, and for sentience. Every human should strive to help ensure that sentient life exists in 1,000 years from now. Be it human or otherwise.

>musk hate thread
This place is reddit

Fuck bim for destroying sky

>>12373665
because cars owned by the wealthiest 8-10% fo the population are the main contributor to climate change? lol.
be serious ffs

A very smart person that, when he steps out of his areas of expertise, ends up looking pretty foolish.

>>12373063
Greatest genius of this generation.

>>12385961
>I guess /sci/ is reddit now
If both reddit and 4chan can't stand the guy, you know he must be fucking up big league
>Everyone hates Musk for no reason.
Except that's not true idiot there are numerous reasons
>He's still a human you know lol
Not to Musk cultists
>He does mistakes - like believing hyperloop would work
He wont admit that lol
>But still he has vision that we should all support
And what vision is that exactly? We all have visions so what makes that jackass's vision important?
>We don't have to be depressed about Earthly problems like overpopulation, lack of resources if we colonize more planets.
Why does he get the credit all of the sudden for this idea of colonizing other planets.
>But i guess that's what the elite wants, they want us to be neurotic and miserable while spreading depressing news through every channel.
Musk is part of the elite now whether you like it or not. He has the second highest net worth now. If you think the elite normally doesn't have the interests of others prioritized what makes you think Musk does? Because he watches anime and smokes weed on our favorite podcasts just like the common prole? It's pretty tricky trying to muddy class borders while leveraging it to his full advantage.
>This is what they're feeding you while Elon is trying to give hope.
What hope is that? He is a businessman his priority is to sell you shit. The thought of a billionaire colonizing another planet with his legion of dedicated reddit cultists and establishing himself as a God-Emperor of it sounds like a sci-fi horror plot. There is no hope in that.

>>12387288
Yeah because fuck all the mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and doctors who do the work. He has his name on some companies so he's the real MVP. Fuck outa here you jabroni.

>>12373063
He's ruthless and doesn't put up with nonsense. He's a businessman who know what he's talking about with his products. I can understand why /sci/ddit hates him though. And I also disagree with him on a few things, but then again, it's not like I'm buying any of his products.

>>12387318
>He's ruthless and doesn't put up with nonsense
While he floods his twitter page with nonsense and gives his kid a stupid name because he thinks it will impress the redditors. Imagine ruining your own kid's life to get upboats and reddit karma lmao
>He's a businessman who know what he's talking about with his products
The dude literally thinks you'll be able to upload kung fu into your brain while the fucking neurosurgeon that he brushes off actually working on the thing face palms

>>12387310
What are some achievements of those scientists/mathematicians/doctors/engineers that affect the world? Do they have anything on Musk's Electric Car or Reusable rocket?

>>12374689
fuck you nigger kike

>>12373471
>humans will never set foot on the moon thats impossible

>>12387740
Anyone who says Mars is impossible literally has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
We could do it today, but it wouldn't be cost-effective or logical.

Another one of those retards that hope they can create risk for others without being held accountable for it.

Read R.U.R. Only in a retarded society can you walk away from risks you create for others. Taleb was right about these punks.

>>12373116
qrd or link please? I havent followed this guys musings for years. interested to know what he thinks about those.

>>12373358
He specializes in owning companies. Come on, people!

>>12373070
All that means is he had less venture capitalists and loans. Anyone that developed PayPal would have come out relatively the same. Then they could buy into tesla and take it over. Then leverage that into SpaceX.

>>12387792
>cost-effective
>logical
those terms are far more subjective than what is commonly thought.

Good business man with enough science understanding to follow the real brains working for him. Has a good sense to get into government subsidized markets early. Where steady supply of cheese will keep failing low.

Needs to stop tweeting so damn much. Get some exercise and sleep, and stop taking so many drugs.

>>12376626
probably massive industrial operations. Like those lights in the middle of western Australia are probably mining, fuck all people live in that part.

>>12373070
Dude successfully tackled on the biggest industries in the world and virgin basament dweller here unironically shit on him just because, sad
When will brainlets ever learn

>>12373070
Is this shit facebook? Everytime the 1st post gets the more comments cus it's on top, getting annoying, how do we fix this

>>12373187
It's a game for the jews.
They like acting like this and watching the goy prostrate themselves.

>>12389677
Stop with your schizo Jew paranoia. I'm a Jew and I all the Jews I know respect Musk and think the media outrage against him is absurd.

Your problem is with the "woke journalist" crowd, who are largely non-Jewish white American women, with an incidental healthy sprinkling of Jews because they disproportionately tend to go into writing.

>>12389677
>>12373187
Stop with your schizo Jew paranoia. I'm a Jew and I and all the Jews I know respect Musk and think the media outrage against him is completely absurd.

Your problem is with the "woke journalist" crowd, who are largely non-Jewish white American women, with an incidental healthy sprinkling of Jews because they disproportionately tend to go into writing.

>>12389768
Dont get me wrong, i'm not some /pol/ tier anon who think jews control the world.
In fact jews are massively "short term profit" in ways of thining and thats what keeps bitting them in the ass every time.
And the jewish society abusing the shit out of antisemitism creating even more antisemitism is something they are completely oblivious of too.

>>12373063
irl Tony Stark

Dangerous and mentally ill individual.

>>12391752
>Dangerous and mentally ill individual.
Well that's a problem because that individual is the second richest guy

Weaselfaced rich boy

A shittier John Hammond but real and greedier somehow.

Also fucked a glorified eGirl and thinks their union of unholy modernized dipshittery is avant garde.

>It's another episode of /sci/ falling for the Great Man Theory.
It's possible to appreciate the contribution of an individual without deifying him. Repeat this to yourself 100 times. Do it now.
No single man drives history. Reality is a complex network of interests between multiple competing groups. No single person is in control of history. You are not a conspiracy nut. You are in /sci/. You can do better than this.

So the verdict is:
>Elon Musk is making important contributions to technology, mostly in the electrical car and space exploration realm. Arguably many of these are not necessarily his creations, but he has a good sales acumen and good charisma for exploiting geeky space travel and I FUCKING LOVE TECH nerds.
>Most of his other projects are not as good/straight up failures, but this is consistent with the fact that reality is not a one variable problem and he is not an uber genius, as discussed. This shouldn't be a problem unless you deify him.

Hopefully by now you can appreciate his contributions, whatever they may be, and not deify him. Go ahead and do that for every single other figure you believe shaped history alone.

>>12392633
Yes, naturally.
Taleb was right..

>>12392704
>Taleb was right..
Who is Taleb? What did he say?

>>12392777
>Who is Taleb?
Arab
>What did he say?
That you shouldn't get to walk away from risks you create for others.
To mlon usk, people are just numbers that he gets to manipulate as he pleases without taking any personal risk or things that he creates.

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