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Good question, I've always wondered near the same thing.

bump.

Dominance in the evolutionary game is the key to a happy life. Like the great Conan said: "crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women". Of course we cant have all of society liveing by this, but if you want your SOURCE to be real, this is basically it.

"Peace", niggers

>>5536189
I agree. Too many philosophers and religious thinkers thought that modesty was the key to hppiness. It's funny to know that it's quite the opposite. But they their thinking were meant to create a formula to make everyone in the world happy. But in the evolutionary game only few people can really be happy. That is be successful at almost everything.

>>5536198
>making happiness be dependent on success
>not mastering your emotions so you can feel however you want to feel at any time in any circumstances

>>5536208
Thats not how evolution works, mate. Keep telling yourself you can feel happy at any time doing nothing. I'd rather set myself some goals and accomplish them. You dont need to be successful in the eyes of society. You just need to know thhat yourself is capable of doing shit. That will make you happy.

>>5536218
Im capable of feeling happy at any time and making myself believe whatever i decide to.

>>5536218
I bet you're one of those DYEL faggots. You have a pathetic view on life. There are many people out there who are more successful than you can ever wish to be who aren't very happy at all. Happiness is relative. Success is an idea. Chemicals are material. Your emotions ar dictated by chemicals, not these social abstracts of "success".

Survival of the fittest has little-to-nothing to do with one's happiness. You're just so fucking stupid it hurts. Stay shit, /sci/.

Depends on where the dopamine is being released.

If you're talking about the dopaminergic neurons in the Nucleus Accumbens (NA) then you're talking about the chemical stimulus that creates recursive behaviors. The release of dopamine generally corresponds to something vitally important for survival like eating, sexing, lurking etc. A large amount of stimulation in the NA is likely to create memories of whatever you did to trigger that stimulation so you can do it again in the future. Dopamine is pretty much responsible for telling you that you're doing what you need to do to win at life, so in a sense, yes it improves quality of life.

However, the addictive pathways associated with the NA evolved in organisms without the ability to understand neuroscience or pharmacology. We've done a really good job of making things that are evolutionarily insignificant but still release dopamine. Playing video games doesn't add to our fitness and yet are capable of stimulating the NA, so it's possible to worsen your quality of life by doing something that feels biologically important but really isn't. Drugs like crystal meth and the cocaine actually release so much dopamine in the NA that it can deregulate receptors or replace every behavior to a problem with 'do more drugs'. Feeling sad? Smoke crystal meth. Feeling hungry? Smoke crystal meth. Out of money? Smoke crystal meth. Teeth are falling out? Smoke crystal meth etc. This is bad.

So, TL;DR yes and no.

what's the difference between artificially increasing the levels of dopamine and serotonin and actually doing shit that increases them like going to the moon and having kids and stuff

>>5536226
The chemicals are realeased according to social situations in social animals. I lift hard, and that makes me happy. Just to know I could fuck you up in real life makes me feel my masculinity and my test just rise! Accept we humans are just mere social animals man.

>>5536248
Cause going to the moon and having kids costs more money than popping a lustral pill doofus

>>5536253
do you enjoy blowing dicks?

>>5536281

so witty

>>5535952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVN6426oVgw&playnext=1&list=PL68B51CAEFDAD7D11&feature=results_main

This was a pretty good watch on the subject.

>>5536248

Normal stimuli occur, do the things it needs to do, then (usually) a feedback loop triggers an opposing stimulus to return the brain/body back to normal; homeostasis. For instance, the parasympathetic nervous system allows your body to become physically sexually aroused in the presence of a sexy stimulus. The acetyl choline released from those neurons cause a series of events leading to the release of norepinephrine that activates the sympathetic nervous system. So, these two systems feed each other up until you start doin it. The sympathetic nervous system is responsible for orgasm, so when it reaches a certain threshold of activation, that's when you cum all over said stimulus' tits. The elevated norepinephrine prevents acetyl choline from binding to receptors and thus reducing sexual arousal. Also, btw, both the pns and sns get inputs from the parts of the brain near the NA so it's all connected.

Anyway, point being, our brains have built in control mechanisms that keep us regulated. They allow us to know to stop having sex at a certain point so that reproduction isn't an all consuming activity. Imagine if sex had no inhibitory control; you'd start to have sex until you were jizzing and then you'd keep on splashing baby batter until you die...Sounds fun, but not a very good system.

Artificial means of triggering reward pathways allow us to override the inhibitory mechanisms by just increasing the dose. This is how amphetamine can keep you up for weeks at a time. Continuing to release dopamine in the NA keeps the stimulation from ever being inhibited by GABA neurons. This inevitably has its consequences on the brain, worst case being death.

TL;DR drugs make you not care that you're killing yourself; take them only if you don't give a fuck about living.

>>5536348
>sexy stimulus.

>>5536358

I've got degrees in psychology and parapsychology.

Crystal meth and masturbation are my favorite things in life.

So dopamine is good.

Before the "hurrr ur brian gettin fried lulz" idiots chime ine.

Yeah, I am fucking up my brain. But I am schizophrenic anyway. I have never been able to make friends since my symptoms started. After I had my first true psychotic break, my social skills took a nose dive or something. i dont know what im doing wrong, but i fail badly. i think i did alright, but people dont wanna talk to me agian, avoid me, act condensending. dont try to continue the conversation. it just dies.

so, why not use meth? i can be happy for a few years. better than my normal life. anti depressants don't work. ive been on every single SSRI/SNRI that exists. Not joking either.

anti psychotics = die at age 50-60 due to heart problems
Meth = die at age 50-60 due to heart problems

AP = sleep all day, no euphoria, bored, tired, no sex drive, not parnaoid or anxious, nothing to talk about
Meth = awake all the time, energy, euphoric, happy, hypersexual,more paranoid, more to say but still not much

I wont have friends on or off. I wont ahve a wife ever on or off AP meds. So why not just abuse meth?

>>5536379
>Degree
>Parapsychology

Kill yourself

>>5536427

You're psychotic because you're on meth dummy.

A manic or psychotic episode can lead you to do harm to other people as well as yourself. When you lose the ability to think rationally you are dangerous.

But otherwise, go to town man. Meth is good stuff.

>>5536427

>schizo
>have never been able to make friends
>bad social skills
>cannot get people to hang around

How do you know that isn't social anxiety and autism?

Both of my parents were herewin addicts and I have not done any regular drugs in my life. (Accept caffiene.)

I often feel apathetic about life, I have spent half of it being poor and I have not had motivation to improve myself much throughout it. Not every day is the same though, but even on the good days, my desire to self improve is marginal to my daily activities, which is work, diet, exercise, basically anything I think would keep me in optimal condition for a healthy life. I am 27, 6'2" and 200lbs.

What are the chances I am genetically predispositioned to be a low dopamine producer (An addictive personality) because all people tell me is that I need to have sex, and drink. I have never and probably will never do either, regardless of how attractive I am told I am. (I am reminded on a weekly basis by strangers.)

I have had the best results in motivation with mucuna pruriens supplementation, but that is it.

>>5536466
It's a movie quote you uncultured swine.

>>5536509
One of the most trafficked websites on the internet, and I still never get replied to posts I make with related information.

Its like posting in /soc/
Tits required

>>5536499
Because...when sober I thought that my parents bugged my room with mics/cameras and keylogged my computer. For months id think this on certain days and I would actually go into the drywall looking for them. I cut apart my matress with a knife too.

I used to think everyone at school conspired to humilate me in all my classes for no reason. and shit like that.

I cannot talk to police. I fear they will beat me to death for being schizo and then claim excessive force. I plan ways to kill them if they stop me and try to restrain me. The few times they have talked to me, I was able to hide my schizo by giving them 2 word replies and being silent. Then they let me go. If they see me pacing though, they'll kill me and cover it up.

They say this is paranoia but ive seen videos of cops killing the mentally ill for no reason. i wont be one of the victims.

You do know schizophrenia comes with social deficits similar to autism right? Or do you not know shit about the disease and not know this fact and assume any social retard schizo is lying? Like the faggot you are.

>>5536509
Schizoid personality disorder, severe depression, schizoaffective disorder, schizophrenia are posibilities. See a doctor. why haven't you?

I'm glad someone knew it.

It's hard for me to believe that I'm of an age where cinema canon was produced before some people on this site were born.

>>5536595
I have seen a doctor, two actually. One gave me SSRI's, didn't like them. The other I went for sleeping problems, he told me he thinks I have a personality disorder, and recommended me a therapist.

The therapist is actually just a social worker who I pay $25 a visit, she has her degree on the wall, and seems unable to differentiate me from one of her other patients after seeing her for a couple months.

Prior to seeing these doctors in the last two years, I was too poor to reasonably afford healthcare, and I also didn't recognize myself as having a problem. I simple expected to have more motivation given better circumstances.


Whats more odd is that on some days I am quite animated and capable. But knowing that I can wake up on the wrong side of the bed and basically have impaired cognitive function coupled with apathy and sluggishness I feel extremely limited for a young person.


Physically I am average. But in the last year I have had male pattern baldness and some of my hairs are turning white, all over my body.

I do not enjoy much and I do not look forward to those things I enjoy. Sometimes I will intentionally inhibit things that I enjoy to give myself time to sit quietly and think. Today is one of those days.


My cicadian sleep cycle is way off right now, I was switched to working evenings this new years, so I started taking vitamin D to prevent seasonal affective disorder.

>>5536590

>paranoia

Anyone who was bullied or consistently humiliated at high school could identify with the 'conspiracy to humiliate' idea.

I am pretty sure that I can even identify with the paranoia about my parents. I was completely afraid of my parents finding my porno collection on my computer, I never knew why, but I certainly was driven crazy by it.

The cops thing I really don't understand. It almost seems like you have watched too many movies and you can't figure out that movies are fictional.

>you know it comes with all these other things

I'm not surprised that people who identify themselves as mentally ill would want to collect every other mental illness which could be possibly associated to make themselves more of a victim, but I didn't know that.

>Or do you not know shit about the disease

Nah. I've just met too many people who pretended to be 'mentally ill' to gain sympathy because they need to have a reason other than their own laziness and irresponsibility for their lives being the fucking messes they always are.

>>5536629

>Nah. I've just met too many people who pretended to be 'mentally ill' to gain sympathy because they need to have a reason other than their own laziness and irresponsibility for their lives being the fucking messes they always are.

This.

This guy has been posting all week on /sci/. He may or may not have schizophrenia; he definitely has a personality disorder. He's using you /sci/.

>>5536629
Several doctors have agreed on schizoaffective, or schizophrenia. One says bipolar with psychotic features, and she doesn't believe I never did drugs at 16. But, I am truly not lying about that. I was against drugs ADAMANTLY before i became miserable due to my parents drilling it into me.

>>5537002

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>>5536189
Isn't this an oversimplification?
I mean....... You have to take group dynamics into account. We reproduce not only as individuals but as populations. You're genes are more likely to be passed down throughout the ages if they help the entire group achieve dominance over other groups.

So, depending on your genes, you might find happiness by getting a meaningless job and pumping out offspring, or you might find happiness in, for instance, doing scientific research.

Fair enough?