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15985087 No.15985087 [Reply] [Original]

why has science been so bad in the last 50 years? is it the falling IQ levels in the population? bad education? bad scientific institutions? did peer review ruin everything like some schizos say?

>> No.15985089

>>15985087
Women in education basically castrated the masculine mind. Segregate school again and you'll see geniuses emerge.

>> No.15985092

>>15985089
good point, i forgot about women because thankfully in my last 2 jobs there were zero

>> No.15985118

Retards thought capitalism was uniform and monotone increasing
but they've always been quite dumb as shit, you can't just think of how stupid they are as a intentional creation of themselves, the new generations were made retarded.

>> No.15985178
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California, which was not too long ago the world epicenter of technological innovation, is now the lowest IQ state in the nation, all thanks to immigration

>> No.15985190

>>15985087
pseudo intellectual 30+ year old niggers posting endlessly on a teen image board forum or watching brainrot videos?

>> No.15985237

>>15985190
what does that have to do with scientists?

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>>15985237
>scientists
you mean the generation of people who already hold academic certificates?

>> No.15985245

>>15985241
watch out everybody, young anon here knows how to cure the world of its problems. we should all listen to him

>> No.15985247

Feminism. But actually: Bretton Woods collapsing. But also: phasing out leaded gas. But actually: HFCS in everything.

>> No.15985287

It was never good

>> No.15985452
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>>15985087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMN62SjXqZE

>> No.15985960

>>15985287
it was good when it was aristocrats and autists doing it in their free time

>> No.15985962

>>15985452
>Edward Dutton
that anglo is too goofy for me

>> No.15985970

ahhh yes another /sci/ thread full of incels blaming buzzwords for the world's problems

>> No.15986120
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>>15985970
>reeeee!!! muh incels!!!
>they're out to get me!!!!
>its a big conspiracy!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion

nice job blaming all your problems on the incel buzzword btw, you have no self awareness, how low is your IQ?

>> No.15986136

>>15985087
There has been relentless social and moral decline in last 60 or so years.
US stopped being a white country.
stuff like hard work, excellence, curiosity, innovation etc doesn't matter anymore.
Money control and management is at the center of things.

>> No.15986174

>>15985087
>why has science been so bad in the last 50 years?
There have been major advances in AI, genetics, mathematics, and physics (either mathematical or in condensed matter physics) in this period. The falling IQ levels and increasing unjustified confidence of people discussing science on the internet might be the real explanation for this thread

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>>15986120
damn didn't realize my post would upset you that much

>you have no self awareness
pic related

>> No.15986309

Modern science fags lack creativity and courage. They are all groupthink sheep who will literally lie or suck nigger dick for grant money.

>> No.15986325

>>15985089
I went to an all boys school and this is total cap

>> No.15986330

>>15985087
>why
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Stagnation
And we have this discussion weekly.

>> No.15986355

>>15986330
>Peter Thiel laments lack of development since 1970
wasn't the 70s just peak oil? per capita energy expenditure in the US peaked then and has never gone up after that

>> No.15986525

>>15985087
There's only so many ways you can say the same shit.

>> No.15986537

Large government funding into science and research. Then the Republicans took over and cut taxes for their billionaire friends and the money was all gone.

>> No.15986550

>>15986325
https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/50/2/447/169668/Causal-Effects-of-Single-Sex-Schools-on-College

>Causal Effects of Single-Sex Schools on College Entrance Exams and College Attendance: Random Assignment in Seoul High Schools

>Despite the voluminous literature on the potentials of single-sex schools, there is no consensus on the effects of single-sex schools because of student selection of school types. We exploit a unique feature of schooling in Seoul—the random assignment of students into single-sex versus coeducational high schools—to assess causal effects of single-sex schools on college entrance exam scores and college attendance. Our validation of the random assignment shows comparable socioeconomic backgrounds and prior academic achievement of students attending single-sex schools and coeducational schools, which increases the credibility of our causal estimates of single-sex school effects. The three-level hierarchical model shows that attending all-boys schools or all-girls schools, rather than coeducational schools, is significantly associated with higher average scores on Korean and English test scores. Applying the school district fixed-effects models, we find that single-sex schools produce a higher percentage of graduates who attended four-year colleges and a lower percentage of graduates who attended two-year junior colleges than do coeducational schools. The positive effects of single-sex schools remain substantial, even after we take into account various school-level variables, such as teacher quality, the student-teacher ratio, the proportion of students receiving lunch support, and whether the schools are public or private.

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>>15985178
really makes you think...

>> No.15986557

>>15986537
>cut taxes
Based. Taxes should be abolished.

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>>15986537
wrong, redditor
try again

>> No.15987070

>>15986553
And of course the jew media is constantly singling out West Virginia and Kentucky for derision as being dumb and backwards.

>> No.15987308

>>15985087
Kids are more concerned at being YouTubers and twitch streamers when they grow up

>> No.15987315

>>15986355
>wasn't the 70s just peak oil?
Not sure about that, though there was the oil crisis in 1973 which caused a lot of financial damage.

>> No.15987337

>>15985087
b/c science is fundamentally flawed, unlike the glorious Quran

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>>15987315
>There's only so many ways you can say the same shit.

>> No.15987760

>>15987337
Of (cour)ces it's (wrong)

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>>15986561
>Posts an image proving my point
Government spending was on rocketry and computers, private companies spending is on weight loss pills and mood drugs.

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>>15986355
>peak oil
shit that never happened and never will

>> No.15988483

>>15986174
Yep, science is advancing at a steady pace for those who are in touch in current developments, but for low IQ /pol/ack baboons who only get their information from /pol/ or from their echo chamber on xitter, then it's somehow worse than before.

Just last year we saw a new rare decay of the Higgs at the LHC

>> No.15988487

Because we've reached the highest we can go in science with standing human genetic variation.

>> No.15988630

>>15988475
even if abiogenic petroleum is 100% real, it doesn't matter if it's too deep and hard to reach, it will matter the day that empty oil wells start filling up again which it has never happened so far

>> No.15988671

>>15988483
tell us more about /pol/ buddy

>> No.15989878

>>15988630
>empty oil wells
no such thing
no productive oil field has ever run dry, the west pennsylvania field that started the oil industry over 150 years ago and has been producing constantly ever since is still as productive as it ever was

>> No.15989888

>>15985087
All the nazis retired. You need a touch of eugenics to create super smart people. Also a stable society without a ton of hoops to jump through like a trained dog to get to a high level position.

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>>15985087
>bad scientific institutions?
Mainly this. Science became a bureaucratic institution rather meritocratic discipline. Scientific discovery in the postwar era has been a matter of increasing money and manpower. Both can be increased ad nauseam to diminishing returns. The bureaucratization of science started during the Manhattan Project, and increased during the Cold War weapons projects and space race. Governments attempted to mass produce scientists and scientific progress by using schools as scientist factories and by funding massive research projects and laboratories (CERN, Fermilab, RAND, et al). Turns out the Great Man Theory was right.

>> No.15990264

people stopped dreaming and stopped focusing in these endeavors for get rich quick schemes so they can be famous

>> No.15990265

>>15987308

I knew so many kids who were smarter than me in school who went to college for communications so they could be media influencers.

>> No.15990277

>>15985087
it's always been bad, same as religion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsrj1jJ1eM

>> No.15990440

>>15985087
Robert Maxwell and bibliometrics

>> No.15991604

>>15990265
they did that because they're smarter than you. communications is the high iq degree, they're they people who determine what everyone else thinks.

>> No.15992538

>>15986355
It peaked because later more effective power plants and combustion engines were invented. Look at the baltics, they produce more electricity and drive move than ever in history, economy went from 5k per capita in the 90s to 30k. Yet, the co2 production decreased by half, simply because now they use 80% efficient gas turbines for the powerplants, instead of 20%. Or shit like movement truggered light in the stairs of commieblocks. It's actualy a sign of techological advance as there is jo poont in using oil inefficiently.

>> No.15993226

>>15989878
tsmt
peak oil is just a meme

>> No.15993255

>>15985452
>>15985962
Edward Dutton is just an entertainer like Sam Hyde.

>> No.15993258

>>15985178
What does *average* IQ have to do with science? Does your university hire random average people from the surrounding area?

>> No.15994213

>>15985087
Some info here, on Freakonomics:
https://freakonomics.com/podcast-tag/academic-fraud/
conclusion: it won't end any time soon.

>> No.15994221

>>15993255
He's not an entertainer, he's an excentric intellectual. Sam Hyde isn't smart at all.

>> No.15995554

>>15993258
people at universities are average intelligence at best, they don't hire on the basis of intellectual merit, university people rarely if ever accomplish anything of any use or value, even the most famous academics have mostly done nothing worthwhile with their career.

>> No.15995729

>>15994221
dutton doesn't seem smart to me at all

>> No.15996785

>>15985962
stop being racist

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>>15993226

>> No.15997493

>>15985087
Science has been great in the last 50 years, you're just a badly informed dipshit.

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>>15985087
>why has science been so bad in the last 50 years?
Restricted by the false religion of atheism/evolutionism. And now science says boys can be girls and give up all your rights because climate alarmism.

>Darwin makes the groundbreaking discovery that: finches make... finches
>evolutionists think this proves man came from apes which came from fish which came from soup which came from a rock which came from nothing and they think that's science and not blind faith
When will evolutionists admit their religion is of blind faith and not science and has no place being tax-funded and forced on kids in public schools?

They don't even critically analyze their own religion of evolutionism of kinds. They just get angry whenever it's criticized because they can't prove it.

>> No.15997500

>>15997494
This much retardation only comes from either Oklahoma or Arkansas, where everyone is limited and no one fucking matters.

>> No.15997525

>>15985087
Honestly, probably a lack of advanced software is holding everything up. There's so much data that needs to be organized and presented better.

>> No.15998220

>>15985087
>why has science been so bad in the last 50 years?
has it?

>> No.15998774

>>15985178
How is Hawaii lower than some nigger filled states when it mostly has Asians and whites?

>> No.16000107

>>15998774
The gulf coast states have higher percentage black population than the rest of the south

>> No.16000110

>>15985452
ding ding! That's right folks it was dysgenics all along!

If:
>intelligence is in part genetic
>dumb people outbreed smart people
Then:
>there will be more dumb people!
WOAH!

>> No.16000111

One word: capitalism. Thread over.

>> No.16000115

>>15993255
>>15994221
>>15995729
Doesn't matter if he's smart or has a big penis; are his suggestions on dysgenics right or wrong?

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Related.

>> No.16000133

>>16000107
Hawaii isn't in the golf retard

>> No.16001379 [DELETED] 

>>16000133
so?

>> No.16002393

>>15986557
why do they even need taxes when they have the money printer?

>> No.16002508

>>15998774
They have a certain type of "asian" and it's not the smart ones. All the jap diaspora on Oahu is dwarfed by the pineapple nigger retards that inhabit the rest of the state.

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>>16000131
the solution

>> No.16004189

>>15985087
necktie should be narrower

>> No.16004541

>>15985087
VGH... THE AMERICAN TOGA

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>>15997493
>Science has been great in the last 50 years, you're just a badly informed dipshit.

>> No.16005890

>>15985087
Dying civilizations are bad at research because their institutions are rotten and institutions are what's doing research. Should be obvious.

>> No.16007037

>>15985087
antisemitism, racism and sexism

>> No.16008389

>>15985178
>all thanks to immigration
who promoted that immigration?

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>>16005890

>> No.16010348

>>16009643
Thats one of the best books out there if you want to understand how academia really works

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>>15985087
Environmental pollution

>> No.16010634

Because good science is not profitable.
That's why I'm actually inventing the mathematical study of abstract sciences to completely replace science in general by at least 60% reduction.

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>>15985087
soiyence fanbois exist, therefore soiyence exists.
soiyence fanbois disappeared then so would soiyence and we would be left with only science

>> No.16011753

>>15985087
Science is not different than religion.
It was never smart and is often looked at as a cope that is ruining the world.
Just like religion.

>> No.16011775

>>15986325
the school system itself is feminized these days down to the way of teaching, going to an all boys school doesnt change that

>> No.16013067

>>15985089
segregation by race is more important