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>>16108953
I never said that they are equal.
It's all poisons.
And mass spraying and consumption will lead to diffuse patterns of illness.
I don't say that DDT is as toxic as Lead arsenate.

But it's toxic.
Also during the spraying of DDT paris green and lead arsenate was used as well.
Also there were whole mixtures of shit.
It's not like it was pure "DDT" it was 80% kerosine, 15% DDT and 5% off a different pesticide, depending on who and where it was sprayed.
For example if it was sprays over apple fields it also contained lead arsenate or Para dichlor benzene.

But if you think its safe then, you are fine

>>15877995
>Not exclusively. Tetanus was a huge problem when the streets were filled with thousands of horses, each dropping 20+ pounds of manure into the streets each day. Horse manure is an ample, if not perfect, environment for tetanus to grow. Add tons discarded nails to the pile and you have both your serum and injection method.
Tetanus was a problem when cities were regularly deliced and sprayed and dumped with mercurypowder and lead arsenate.
It was in use everywhere.

Also the labeled every meningitis "tetanus" if a person had a minor wound.
And poisoned the people with opiates, mercury (mostly calomel) and arsenicals.
They even used strychnin, which all are extremly neurotoxic.

The blame on a bacteria was simply hysteria and a plausible deniability for the Big chem and Petroleum companies that produced the "delicing" agents.
Later they mixed the lead arsenate and paris green with DDT.

But the infantile "tetanus" was also caused by the frequent delicing in hospital and the contaminated hand of doctors who clipped the cord.
They poisoned people and marinated themselves and everything in pesticides which were mostly arsenic. Everything was contaminated.

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>>15577706
>You don't spontaneously get malaria
You use this term like it is a distinct special disease with unique symptoms.

Not only did they spay DDT but also PCBS and Paris green (arsenic).
All these compounds are poisonous and lead to "Flu like diseases" and even paralysis.

https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/pdf/ddt_factsheet.pdf
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.18.1.211
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pdfs/78-200d.pdf?id=10.26616/NIOSHPUB78200
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29211547/
http://www.jodrugs.com/toxicologies/3326-paris-green.aspx

"Pest control"-Pesticide exposure:
>human symptoms can include vomiting, tremors or shakiness, fever,
and seizures

They do nothing but relabel:
>hay fever, flu, summer flu, polio, poisoning etc.
To what ever fits their definition.
All is the same.
They poison people and induce flu like disese, which is also the side effect of a buckload of medicine "flu like disease"

You act like "Malaria" is somehow distinct in its presentation, when it is not.
it is a label to describe the same exact symptoms with the only difference beeing the circumstancial "evidence".

Where is the CAUSALITY proven, when lab parameters are the same in """"asymptomatic"""" cases.
HOW is causality proven?

>>15538711
What could have lead to whooping cough, during the early to mid 1900s ?

Maybe the spraying of DDT and Lead Arsenate and Paris green around that time, that stopped in the 50s...

>>15398393
Also what might impact the appearance of skin diseases:
>getting deliced with lead arsenate and DDT.

Also what you assume:
>diagnostic were correct and did not differ from our cureent dwfinition of each disease

Diseases were diagnoses by trend, not by their actual symptom pattern.
If its rendy to have
>tuberculosis then regular brochnitis, pneumonia and dry cough will be diagnosed as such
>if typhus is threndy, the same symptoms can be diagnosed as "typhus"

The illusion of doctors back then and now, could exactly pinpoint and diagnose a disease leads to the absolute retarded trust in "epidimiological" data based on disease names or ICD-10 Codes

>>15365757
>But it looks that transferable diseases exist were the pathogen is unknown

It looks.

>invite 30 people
>cook for them
>put poison in food
>everybody gets sick
>must be contagious

>100 sailors go for 4 months on the see
>all of them get sick
>must be contagious
>*oh no it's actually scurvy

>people get neurological problems
>in rural regions
>between 1920-1955
>must be something contagious
>ackshually it was spraying neurotoxic DDT, Lead arsenate and Paris green on food and people and especcially children to "delice" them.

Common exposure != transmission.
These are easily confused.

>>15326297
Vaccines.
Rashes, skin reuptions and so on are literally listed as common side effects.

And before vaccines, it was a different way of poisoning...
Delicing children with ddt and paris green and lead arsenate.

>>15298662
>contagious

>invite 30 people
>cook for them
>put poison in food
>everybody gets sick
>must be contagious

>100 sailors go for 4 months on the see
>all of them get sick
>must be contagious
>*oh no it's actually scurvy

>people get neurological problems
>in rural regions
>between 1920-1955
>must be something contagious
>ackshually it was spraying neurotoxic DDT, Lead arsenate and Paris green on food and people and especcially children to "delice" them

>>15294282
maybe spraying them down with lead arsenate, DDT and paris green?

>>15172871
Polio story is way more retarded.
Way way more.

But yeah, pesticides and arsenic based compounds, and directly spraying children with BHC and Paris green and lead arsenate is a problem.
DDT also bot DDT was the "least toxic" of all of the shit they sprayed on people.

Even though it is still a neurotoxin was always mixed with BHC or paris green.
Italy hat the biggest DDT + Paris green spraying campaign.

>>14840311
Oh here an illustration of the spraying of pesticides like DDT, Paris green and other stuff back in the days