/lit/ - Literature

>>23270108
Looksmatched couple in 2024

>>23270112
kek

>>23270108
Midgets are disgusting. I dream of a full on free for all Purge level midget slaughter.

I bet irl humans would keep female hobbits as sexslaves. Wonder if this happened with pygmies actually.

What are some books with midgets authors or protagonists?

lynchian

>>23270108
Did he go in for the kiss and get denied at 0:11

>>23270108
Yes. Hobbits are just short humans. That doesn’t stop both from treating each other like different species. Tolkien notes in Nature of Middle Earth that long after the reign of Aragorn’s son, men hunt hobbits for sport until the hobbits become extinct

>>23271719
>men hunt hobbits for sport until the hobbits become extinct
That's fucking dark. I wish he had published more books in his life.

I see no reason why Men or Elves couldn't get along with a hobbit as a husband or wife, assuming they'd be willing to make some lifestyle adjustments.

>>23271790
It was the men hunting female hobbits for use as personal relief. Unfortunately this lead to total hobbit extinction.

>>23270108
I've read a few doujinshi concerning this topic, the general scholarly consensus seems to be yes

>>23270108
Hobbits are am amalogy for Britoms.

Men for Normans and Germans and Elves for Swedes. Dwarves are Jews and the wizards the aristocrats.

>>23270341
The Dwarf by Lagerkvist is kino. There's also The Tin Drum which is a little cucked.

>>23270108
We will never know because Tolkien wasnt a degenrate race mixer (elves are just perfect humans so that doesnt count)

>>23272162
We already know actually

>>23272083
I don't think so but this doesn't answer the question

>>23272166
nope.

>>23272162
>elves
They are peaceful and are 'leaving' because they represent the Swedes who stayed neutral after having been a great military power with Gustavus Adolphus.

>>23272170
Hobbits are absolutely the Britons. The Shire is an idealized version of peaceful Britain before the Germanic and Norman invasions.

>>23272176
kys

>>23272180
Lotr is just a mishmash of Tolkien's reality and various periods of European history.

>mfw only just found out "Orcs = corrupted Elves" is actually not true
Apparently Tolkien couldn't actually figure out an origin story for orcs that fit into his already established lore. Orcs = Elves came from his son.

>>23272175
Yes

>>23272176
>They are peaceful and are 'leaving' because they represent the Swedes who stayed neutral after having been a great military power with Gustavus Adolphus.
No. They're nothing like Swedes lol

>>23272192
>>23272201
Orcs are the Americans. The mixed race ones.

Mordor is the Soviet union and Isengard is America. He wrote the book during ww2 for christsake.

Gondor is Germany battling Mordor; that is the mixed race Soviets. England beats the mixed race American Uruk hai.

Tolkiem was a Philo-Germamic classist. He made Britons into hobbits! It doesn't get any more classist/racist.

>>23272083
>the wizards the aristocrats.
how so? is Saruman Oswald mosely?
>>23272187
that's for most fantasies. Conan is just Bronze Age eroupe with (maybe) stand in
>>23271827
hot
>>23272192
I like the origin story with orcs in elder scrolls is that their god was devoured and was shatted out and his sons ate the poo poo

All the creatures are mishmashes.
They don't solely represent a single people. And I doubt Tolkien was that concerned about the Americans

>>23272210
>>23272206
If Churchill wasn't heavily indebted to Jewish bankers England would've joined Germany. There were a lot of Nazis in England and Tolkien was one of them.

>>23272214
then why did they make him seethe?

>>23272242
Absolutely. Tolkien was of Prussian extraction.

Lotr is his Germanic supremacy fantasy. The coward should've made a political move instead of writing a useless book.

>>23272242
>Tolkien was one of them.
Completely untrue. He didn't like Nazis, nor Hitler, nor their obsession with racialism, nor imperialism, nor industrialism, nor even words like "Aryan" and "Nordic".

>>23272268
He was a coward.

>>23272270
He was a sane man. Psychotic nazi bastards are cringe.

>>23272277
A coward because he wrote his racist fantasy at a time when it was actually being applied in the real world. That's cowardly.

>>23272280
That's called being a writer of fantasy. Any other judgment you have is besides the point.

>>23272280
He was primarily a Catholic, and thus his first loyalty was to the Church and to Christ. Ergo, he supported Franco but did not like Hitler. Hitler wanted to destroy the Catholic Church.

>>23272286
>Hitler
Was a Catholic.

>>23272286
>>23272292
You can never stop being a Catholic. That shit is drilled into you.

Hitler's mother was a devout Catholic and therefore so was Hitler. Catholicism before Vatican 2 had an anti-semitic mandate.

Tolkien was a kin to Hitler in more than one way.

>>23272292
He was baptized Catholic but clearly wasn't much of a Catholic when adult.

>>23272308
He clearly loved his mother dearly by all accounts.

>>23272302
Hitler was not a Catholic
> The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science ... Gradually the myths crumble. All that is left to prove that nature there is no frontier between the organic and inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light, but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.

>>23272318
Sure but he himself was a materialist.

>OP is about hobbits
>some posts later
>muh HITLER
Godwin's law

>>23272320
>>23272324
You guys clearly miss the point of what Catholicism is.

>>23272192
>is actually not true
the movies confirmed it

>>23272330
Lotr was written during ww2 and is about it. It's not Godwin's law in this case. Sauron is Stalin.

>>23272344
Wrong. Maybe actually research Tolkiens thoughts on the subject.

>>23272347
Sure buddy.

>>23272347
>>23272349
The German blooded Tolkien somehow didn't see Germany as Gondor and the Soviets as Mordor.

>>23272352
Correct because blood is irrelevant here. He was British.

>>23272341
The movies are glorified fan fiction.

>>23272286
>did not like Hitler
That's true. He wrote Denethor.

The line of German kings was indeed broken and Hitler was a steward.

>>23272357
He knew had a German last name.

>>23272363
>>23272352
It's funny how prophetic Tolkien was. He knew the Soviets were the real problem and to this day it's Putin that again threatens the West.

He also hated America and they were indeed to dominate the 20th century.

>>23272363
>He knew had a German last name.
So? He was British. He didn't identify as German nationality.

>What was Frodo's chromosome count?

>>23272378
>identify
He was still a German.

>>23272401
Not by nationality nor culture. He was an Englishman.

>>23272404
With a German last name in a classist society. He just had to self-glorify himself. Especially after being pressured by his family and near emasculated in ww1.

All fantasists self glorify but after reading Tolkien's biography he has to be the worst. He's not truly English or German - he's a snake in the grass.

>>23272407
You seem to really hate the guy.

>>23272407
>he's a snake in the grass
A Catholic. Loyal only to Rome.

>>23272414

Just the snakiness. >>23272415

>>23272415
Just like Hitler. His priority was to kill the Jews not win the war for Germany. That's why he refused to pull the trigger in Dunkirk and Moscow.

Catholics are the weirdest bunch.

>>23270108
Presumably, yes, but they don't because the racial separations in Tolkien's literature represent the different natures and characters of persons.

>>23272162
/Pol/pseudery—forever a surface level intelligence.

>>23272426
>different natures and characters of persons
People of similar natures don't all group together. Tolkien's divisions are clearly racial.

Chuds
>He was le coward! He was le snake! He should've chudded out and supported Hitler!
Trannies
>He's le dead white man! So racist, classist and privileged! He shouldn't have supported Franco!

Both sick psychopathic groups hate him and that makes him certified BASED.

>>23270108
Chuds
>He was le coward! He was le snake! He should've chudded out and supported Hitler!
Trannies
>He's le dead white man! So racist, classist and privileged! He shouldn't have supported Franco!

Both sick psychopathic groups hate him and that makes him certified BASED.

>>23272435
>>23272440

>>23272440
He was both those things.

Loyal to nothing but his own self-glorification. Solely because he was neither English or German and was forced to fight in ww1.

>>23272443
what?

>>23272448
He was English, thoughbeit.

>>23272453
An English Catholic with a German last name and a branded coward for not volunteering. All clear narcissistic wounds.

>>23272162
Tolkien was not remotely clued into racial questions despite the theming of his works. He expressed sympathy for blacks in south africa and a love of jews

>>23272642
kys /pol/, no one is talking about niggers and jews.

>>23272433
No, they are the physical embodiment of the nature of people in general. This is why elves are characterized as Wise, humans tend towards bravery and leadership, dwarves towards greed, etc.,. You're just another moronic /pol/cel, determined to superimpose his racism on everything and anything he can because it is your entire pathetic identity.

>>23272642
That just shows he was a real Christian. You're being "clued-in" really just means being a clueless degenerate full of hatred and impotence.