/lit/ - Literature

>>23196976
Cormac McCarthy

>>23196984
Why do you think that?

>>23196976
Hemingway, Pynchon

>>23196976
Pic unrelated

Donna Tartt

>>23196976
Orhan Pamuk, Jose Saramago (ahhh, that guy!), Knut Hamsun, Maxim Gorky...

I must stop, or else...

>>23197185
Why Saramago?

>>23197260
Lol I don't know, I started reading his books 3 times and I just couldn't... which doesn't happen to me often. I left Blindness through the half of the book, and I couldn't even finish the first chapter of another one... Sun and Moon something

>>23197263
You should suck dick for money dude cause you are sharting cum all over me

>>23197270
>sharting
Wow, that was very visual.
You should try writting
>would be better than Saramago

>>23196976
Mark Fisher

>>23197087
this. i tried reading the secret history and the writing style and prose were so atrocious and horrendous i couldnt finish chapter 1

>>23197260
That book about death being a woman is literally a redressed neil gaiman novel.

Dostoyevsky, great ideas, but horrendous writer

>>23196976
Bukowski.

Tolkien was very creative and put in a ton of work but actually reading LOTR and, to a slightly lesser extent, the Hobbit, puts me to sleep. Maya Angelou is terriblem

Aldous Huxley had a great idea and wrapped it into the most dull prose I've ever read

>>23197503
Which translation?

Mark Twain - an arrogant ideologue. "Look how dumb these southerners and Christians are, haw haw haw let's all have a good laugh."

That's all his books really are. He represents the worst in American culture.

This thread made me realize that retards still think that quality has to do with their personal taste.
An author is good or bad independently of wheter someone likes them or not.
A retard on /lit/ disliking Dostoyevsky doesn't makes him an "horrendous" writer, nor Colleen Hooves being liked by tiktok makes her a good writer.

>>23197665
R u gonna suck my dick for money dude?

>>23197665
This thread is about personal preference, hence the “good author you think is shit” question from the OP. How are you in a literature board and you don’t know how to read?

>>23197600
"Good"

>>23197630
Any, problem with his style and prose is far too deep-rooted for translation to change it

>>23196976

>>23197665
How is an author considered good? Can it be said that a piece of writing is objectively or intersubjectively good? It seems that people tend to say that an author is good mostly because of his influence rather than because of his writings themselves.

>>23197665
Autism.

>>23197411
what novel?

>>23197002
No, Joyce fucking sucked.

>>23198334
Filtered

>>23196976
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they? They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example. For they disgust the masses; the epitome of becoming.

>>23198501
>Better formatting and so and so
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they?
They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example.
They disgust the masses, which is the epitome of becoming.

>>23197635
Based. I completely agree. Twain is massively overrated and it's a fucking crime that he became the first internationally recognized American writer, rather than Hawthorne or Melville or Emerson.

You can tell Twain is REALLY shit because he didn't like Jane Austen. Disliking Austen is always the sign of a pleb.

>>23198556
Emerson was the first internationally recognized American writer, if not Washington or Cooper.

>>23196984
>>23196997
Not that Anon, but I also came here to say Cormac McCarthy.

In my case it's that his no punctuation style is a fucking gimmick. It doesn't add anything to his writing, it's not a choice that says anything artistically, it's just being different and daring anyone to give him shit about it.

And it makes his writing hard to read. Also The Road is pretty damn generic once you actually get into it. But if he didn't have such a ballsy, bullshit gimmick, his prose wouldn't especially stand out, and he wouldn't have half the clout he has. So it IS effective marketing at least. Can't stand him though.

>>23198353
Joyce is the favorite author of wine aunts who go to Europe and get their pussies blown out to "find themselves".

>>23198755
Nice fake stereotype.

>>23198061
This. Fuck this blind, neocon, zionist nigger.

>>23198757
Nice spray tan, wine aunt.

Jane Austen. Liking Jane Austen is always the sign of a pleb.

>>23197503
this

>>23197665
>An author is good or bad independently of wheter someone likes them or not
No they're not. Personal taste is synonymous with quality.

>>23199939
What if 2 people disagree?

>>23198501
>>23198517
you can just delete your first post

>>23196976
Postmodernists in general, are garbage. I hate postmodernist art with all of my existence.

I only have two authors who I really despise
Thomas Pynchon (before death in 1994) and "Thomas Pynchon" (post 1994)
both suck but the replacement is slightly better

>>23198729
Midwit

>>23198729
I agree about it being a gimmick.

It made sense in the Road because the world is chaos and disjointed. You could argue Blood Meridian too. But it's every novel.

>>23196997
NTA but "rocks fall, everyone dies" is a fucking lazy plotting endgame no matter how purple your prose. Nihilism is always a choice.

>>23196976
Joyce and Dazai
The occasional pretty sentence doesn't really justify the gimmicky prose or the rather shallow way of thinking

>>23196976
Tolkien, the shut-in autist (sounds familiar?) who thought everyone else was trash even while taking inspiration from them is grossy overstated, but I believe I recognize his value for what it is and was. He was a good man with real vision and his work should be remembered.

>>23196976
If by good you mean selling well with dozens of books, I think Harry Turtledove is fucking awful and always was. The only reason Guns of The South sells well where I'm from is it lets us see General Lee and his buddies kill Yankees with m16s and then feel safely modern about it. What a greasy novelist.

>>23199975
>I hate this author, they're shit
>I love this author, they're great
Where's the issue?

>>23200428
It's not a gimmick. Most of his other books aren't even written like Blood meridian.

>>23199355
Or just being a woman.

>>23200388
timmy turner phenotype

>>23196976
William Faulkner.

>>23196976
camus

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>>23198729

Read Suttree bitch