/lit/ - Literature

>>22759413
Diane D'Souza
God bless Zainab and her nephew and her brothers and her father and her mother and her grandfather and her grandmother.

I cannot

For me, it's Grouchy Gwendo.

Patricia Highsmith. Very talented, managed to do something different with detective novels and had a cool life. Was also a qt and left us a nude pic so there's that too.

>>22759413
No

>>22759413
>can you name at least one female (with a vagina) that you somewhat respect?
No, i don't think i can.

>>22759413
Nope, but tbf I usually don't even give female authors a chance. A few months ago I started to read a history written by a female author and it was so disgusting that I had to stop 100 pages in.

>>22759413
Hulda. (you will never read her)

for those who know the commie Laxness who wrote a book about how much he detested the backwards Icelandic rural life, morals, and people in his novel "independent people" Hulda, in response, wrote "valley-people" to show her love for her childhood and the rural Icelandic life. It's funny because Laxness, coming from a wealthy background, never actually lived in the countryside for a significant portion of his life and moved away from it the moment he could. Hulda on the other hand lived in the countryside her entire life

Anyone who disagrees is actually just coping.

>>22759413
>Greer
liberation fetishists need to be subordinated for their own good.

Clarice Lispector had a slimy slippery Brazilian-Jewish vagina I imagine. I respect her and her cunt.

>>22759413
The only female author I ever liked was Evelyn Waugh. All the rest were pure cancer.

>>22759460
Whom?

women don't actually want to experience anything, they don't love anything, they love the facsimile of it
a woman doesn't actually want to live in a hut in the woods, she wants to take "aesthetic" photos of flowers and post them on instagram with a cottagecore hashtag and then go back to her comfortable apartment. a woman doesn't want to actually live in an old timey university she wants to wear a woolen sweater and post a photo of an old book that she hasn't read and post it under the title of dark academia so they can get likes and internet clout
women are masters of deception and moving into cliques and subcultures in order to get attention. this is why you see women dressing in all black and calling themselves goths but who don't actually listen to goth music or read gothic literature, they are in it for the attention and will post photos of them wearing black on instagram that will get thousands of likes by low-born subhuman simps who will obsess over any woman with large tits who dresses like a mall goth

>>22759693
Calm down.

>>22759413
toko fukawa
not too into romance novels really but a personal level, she's very relatable
>there will never be high quality rule 63 art of her and byakuya
pain...

>>22759413
Simone Weil
Paglia
I don't need more

>>22759693
holy shit, have sex, jesus christ

Gwendoline Riley mentioned
>>22759719
>replying to pasta

>>22759413
McCullers

>>22759719
Can you refute it though?

>>22759413
Virginia Woolf
Sara Teasdale
Carson McCullers

>>22759413
Fields with wider female participation have a different tone to the small subgroup of angry boys within them. At worst, you could say they feel owed ownership of the subject. Being charitable, I would say they feel aesthetic standards migrating towards the culinary tastes of female audiences is pernicious. In any case, most of misogyny here is shitposting and little serious discussion includes it.

>>22759774
You made a post, ESL.

ivy compton-burnett

>>22759413
>respect
As a person or an artist?

>>22759801
The latter, of course. Why would you even care about the former?

>>22759814
Then my answer is: all of them. Being a writer is hard work.

>>22759413
charlotte bronte
I liked Jane Eyre

>>22759693
>listen to goth music
The fuck is this supposed to even be? There doesn't even seem to be a distinct style, just a bunch of bands that people decided were 'Goth'. I have more respect for people who just want to dress Goth than who actually care about being 'authentic Goth' or what that's supposed to mean.

Agota Kristoff, Tatyana Tolstaya, Fernanda Melchor, Alice Munro

I’ve always found women to be antithetical to enjoyment

>Incels
I wish we could locate these imaginary goblins you talk of, and dissect them so that we might know what they're really comprised of in the hopes that they aren't phantasms of your own creation.

Also, Ono no komachi

>>22759413
Ummm why did you feel to add the "with a vagina" qualifier? Don't you know that some women don't have a vagina? YIKES!

>>22759413
J.K. Rowling
Her books are bottom of the barrel shite but she actually stood up for her politics instead of bending the knee.

>>22759413
The clitoris and the female sexual vocalizations it has produced for 300,000 years is quite likely the first musical instrument in existence specifically dedicated to the genre 'nuptialis' as such. This vocalization is effectively unique to humans amongst all great apes, and is almost certainly the 'wellspring' of many, if not most, aesthetic doctrines to this day, extending over the entirety of the field(s) known as art, strictu sensu. Man, disinclined by his very constitution and nature from generating such sounds in any authentic manner, has rather been 'inspired' aurally to produce artificial instruments which, at least partially, mimicked the strumming nature of the clitoris herself. One of the first, if not the very first muse of aural art.

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>>22759693
>>22753259

>>22759413
No

no

>>22759413
I liked "The Yellow Wallpaper" alot. The broad who wrote that has some talent. Faggy feminists ruined it.

>>22759413
Esther Vilar

I genuinely respect at least 5-10 women throughout history (one currently living, no I don't know her personally, yes I have a girlfriend) and and "like" at least 10 more.

I will give a counter question

Name a female author you don't respect

Leslie Marmon Silko
Jane Austen
Toni Morrison
I really dig how Nella Larsen wrote a few works and then just fucked off out of existence and literally vanished
Just read Carmen Maria Machado's debut short story collection and it was wild
Maxine Hong Kingston
Jamaica Kincaid
I really think Plath nailed it capturing depression w/The Bell Jar, but haven't really enjoyed her poetry much
Tove Jansson
Emily Dickinson
George Sand
Ursula K. Le Guin

>>22759413
>can you name at least one female author(with a vagina) that you somewhat respect?
I preemptively drop everything written by a f*male so no, I cannot.

>>22759413
Hutchinson
de Pizan
Shelley
there's 3 now fuck off

>>22760580
>Name a female author
I don't think I will.

>>22760641
Who the fuck is Hutchinson?

>>22759413
George Elliot
Jane Austen
The Brontes
Ann Radcliffe
Sylvia Plath
Robin Hobb
CJ Cherryh
Virginia Woolf
Harper Lee

Plenty more but if you don't have at least half of those at the very tip of your tongue whenever you think about authors? You're probably halfway illiterate. There are next-to-no male authors who wrote anywhere close to as well as Austen at her best. Maybe you can make a case for Joyce, and some people probably want to stretch that to Lawrence or Dickens. But that's it.

>>22760635
>Ursula K. Le Guin
based

Men have been entertaining themselves since the Iliad and Odyssey
Women resent the fact that they are utterly disposable as entertainment but that is not my problem.
Womens inability to entertain themselves or me is their problem not mine.

>>22760635
Silko is dogshit but I agree with the rest of this

No.

>>22760635
>I really think Plath nailed it capturing depression w/The Bell Jar, but haven't really enjoyed her poetry much
Her poetry is mediocre, which is the absolute best that free verse is capable of being.

>>22760647
Lucy Hutchinson
First person to translate all of Lucan's De rerum natura into English, also wrote Order and Disorder which is another poetic retelling of Genesis but it's much slower and more contemplative, less focused on the action of various characters.
Also wrote a lot to try and defend her husband which was based, and her translation was deliberately closer to the original, as right around her time is when there were some "freer" translations starting to come into existence

35 year old incel here (never bought into incel ideology though)

Susanna Clarke! Both Jonathan Strange and Mr.Norrell, and Piranesi are great novels.

>>22759413
The crazy &amp chick

>>22760654
>tfw just taught A Wizard of Earthsea to my students
>tfw the ones who actually read it really dug it

>>22760662
Did you read Almanac of the Dead? Ceremony rocks, but Alamanc of the Dead is 2666 but before 2666 came out and also leagues better.

>>22759413
Emily Bronte and Mary Shelley receive honorary incel status for understanding the incel grindset by the power of their own autism.

>>22760694
Emily Bronte died a virgin. Honorary nothing

>>22760642
Then you don't read women you read memes or just know names

At least one must be bad at it

>>22760712
>virgin
>not celibate
huh?

>>22760725
Her status was in-fact, not honorary. Honorary means not in fact.

>>22759413
Sappho

>>22760728
incel is a strictly male thing. Emily was a femcel. get your vocab straight, anon.

>>22760686
You're doing God's work, anon.

>>22760735
Holy shit touch grass nerd

>>22760654
I like some of Le Guin’s books but her attitude and feminist ramblings are insufferable and anything but based.

No and women teachers suck too. All the best teachers are men. I wish the west would subjugate women again, I’m tired of their lazy intellectual pursuits and spamming of infographics on social media.

>>22760744
have you considered that you're the problem?

>>22760745
t. 15 year old who failed Ms. Applethorpe's Algebra I class

>>22759413
Dickinson. And not just because she's a futa milf who put her dick in her son

>>22759478
based

>>22759693
women love people more than things, which is ultimately the morally superior stance :(

>>22760762
Nobody gaslit better than those nasty ugly fat women, the women principles were just as bad pushing their dogshit on the students. I can trace more than one awful occurrence due to a nasty cunt as principal. Fuck women.

Annie Ernaux is obviously a hot pick because of that recent Nobel win but she really does rock. Her prose is phenomenal.

>>22759413
for me, it's Flannery

>>22760754
Not him, but I'm pretty sure feminism is the problem

>>22760785
nah, wrong. Good news is your prefrontal cortex will finish developing around the time you're 26 though so you'll better be able to analyze your issues

>>22760785
Correct. Feminism has done irreparable damage to society.

I had an avocado and 4 pieces of swiss cheese and 6 eggs and 4 pieces of 60 calorie low carb bread and now I am going to go outside

>>22760790
I'm 35 now. I think I grew out of feminism around 18, in college.

>>22760866
you made it much, much worse for yourself with responding like that

>>22760869
> Oh no! An anon on 4chan is laughing at me!

>>22759413
Why are you restricting our selection of female authors to only those that possess a vagina? That seems needlessly exclusionary and small minded.

>>22759413
>female
>(with a vagina)
that's a tautology

Jean Auel, cave woman rape is peak kino

>>22760790
What is it with women and betas and this argument? They’re so delusional that they think nature itself is on their side
>durr when your brain finishes development you’ll understand the truth of the world
>doesn't because it makes no sense
>wtf something went wrong in your development! Feel more pity goy!

>>22760784
My fiancée’s grandma absolutely loathed Flannery and it’s known in Savannah’s old-money community that Flannery despised her. Need to go through her belongings to see if she had written any letters about Flannery

>>22760897
Empathy is a something we learn as we grow, especially helped by seeing outside of ourselves. Teenagers and the undeveloped prefrontal cortex of children struggles, by nature of the literal biological restriction, to feel empathy for others, focusing on the here and now and self. Hence why many of the worst people on the internet tend to be seeming "sociopaths" but are really just angry teenagers with no sense of their own absurd selves.

Get back to me when you've actually studied child and brain development, pinky winky

>>22760916
Empathy is just another faculty and too much of it is a negative for the individual, it will make them ineffective in the face of life’s challenges. You people obsess over empathy in a vain attempt to halt and subjugate nature. Nobody can act if they’re always concerned with how everyone else is thinking or feeling. Empathy is as soma for you sick people. Your shallow appeal to your “science” ideology isn’t convincing in the slightest either. You’d define anyone who isn’t consumed by a paralyzing amount of empathy as a “sociopath,” which is most people who have actually done anything great in history. What a coincidence! Halt everything in the name of feeling bad.

>>22759413
>can you name at least one female author(with a vagina) that you somewhat respect?
I could, but the way you worded that post makes it obvious that you don't want to engage in a discussion, you're just a faggot who wants to bait people into arguing.

>>22760762
Since when do they teach Algebra I to 15 year olds? Vector spaces and such are typically college level subjects even if they teach Gaussian elimination in K12

>>22760717
>Then you don't read women
Indeed, I do not. I will not name any for I care not to know any.

>>22760916
>Empathy
Has nothing to do with this discussion. Defend feminism or move on.
>but feminism = empathy
No, it isn't.

>>22760916
>you've actually studied child and brain developmen
have you? Because the current state of the art still essentially knows shit about fuck when it comes to anything specific in regards to the human brain at a macroscopic level.

>>22759413
Kate Chopin

Doris lessing
Marilyn Robinson
Olga Tokarczuk
Ursula k. Le Guin
Angela Carter
George Elliot

These are female authors I've read the most of that I really liked and respected

Marguerite Yourcenar, Murasaki Shikibu, Virginia Woolf, and Sigrid Undset (for Kristin Lavransdatter).

>>22760784
yes. Forgot her. magnificent .

>>22761094
>Sigrid Undset (for Kristin Lavransdatter).
Yes

Gjertrud Schnackenberg
Alice Oswald
Louise Gluck
Joan Didion

>>22759413
George Eliot

>>22761094
Reddit

>>22761146
all of nu/lit/ started off on reddit and most anons still lurk and post on reddit, newfaggot

>>22761194
Reddit

>>22759413
Gillian Flynn. Sure she's mainstream but no one does it like her. Sucks it's taking so long for her next book

>>22761194
Don't say such hideous things nigger

>>22761222
The pressure to follow up a book like Gone Girl must be crippling.

>>22759413
Karoline von Günderrode, Marceline Desbordes-Valmore, Eugénie de Guérin, Rachilde, Thérèse de Lisieux, Élisabeth de Gramont, Natalie Clifford Barney, Marthe Bibesco, Fanny zu Reventlow, Regina Ullmann, Catherine Pozzi, Simone Weil, Cristina Campo, Gabrielle Wittkop

>>22759413
Virginia Woolf and Flannery O'Connor

For me it's Jo Walton

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>>22759413
Maximiani Julia Portaz

>ctrl+F "tartt"
>0 results
You have failed me once again, /lit/

>>22759413
George Elliot.

>>22761917
on the whole she's very mid (if even that)

>>22762033
The Goldfinch was outright bad, but the other two make up for it imo

>>22759413
Hildegard von Bingen and Hildegard von Bingen.

>>22759413
Tons of BL authors are women wdym

>>22761917
why yes, i will have sex with you
why no, i will not read your books
why no, i will not read anything
why yes, i will continue to shitpost

>>22759413
For me, it's Lena Dunham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H51HuNX41Fg&t=102s

>>22759413
Pearl S. Buck

>>22759440
Highsmith is the sociopath lesbian genius 4chan always aspired to be

Jane Austen is so good that even Nabokov, who famously said women couldn't write, liked her. It actually made him uncomfortable to teach her in his classes at Cornell because she was a direct refutation to his assertion.

Mark Twain hated her too, as if you needed any more proof that Twain is a midwit who wrote for midwits.

>>22759413
Colleen McCullough

>>22760019
I'd say that it's not commendable to stand up for your own self-interest (in her case as a woman), which is the baseline human self-preservation thing to do. Then I remembered what world we're living in and I want to give her a medal for bravery

>>22762036
secret history was long-winded garbage. a kernel of an idea worth maybe thirty pages stretched into four-hundred

>>22762410
Secret History is KINO.

>>22762103
This is not an accurate representation of the facts. Nabokov disliked her until Edmund Wilson recommended Mansfield Park, which he found much better than the earlier works he'd read. The idea she made him uncomfortable is laughable

>>22762445
secret history is trash. it felt like i was reading a goosebumps mystery story but with a sprinkling of superficial sex and violence to cater to adults. what did you like about it?

>>22759693
holy based. Ignore the roasties and the troons who will vehemently deny such accusations. They are masters of deception after all.

>>22759413
Edith Wharton is great. Ethan Frome was one of the books I read as a teen that made me love literature

my favorite brazillian author

>>22759413

Id respect any female author with a few exceptions desu, im not an incel, but I know they usually talk about the type of hypersucessfull girls who can just throw affection away easily and collect boyfriends as if they were stamps, you know, bimbo bitches (I hate them too but im not a misogynist), most woman authors were either from a time before that and just as well educated if not more than the average man, and even in the modern day almost every girl who writes ive met has actual reason passion for it and can be classified as a femcel (even if almost all of them have a fucked up political agenda in some way or another), I just appreciate passion for something by the end of it, but almost every good female writer either died or was super old by the 6ps

>>22759413
Murasaki Shikibu and all the other japanese court diarist ladies.

>>22763254
Sorry I can hear the ghost of Sei
Shonagon bursting into flames over you not personally and specifically complimenting her kanji knowledge.

Anne Carson has been an interesting read so far.