/lit/ - Literature

Just stick to Dostoyevsky

>>18384157
Stick to Tolstoy you pleb.

you appear to be a brainlet, so >>18384232 is solid advice

>>18384232
>>18384242
>>18384246

I don't read much literature, so that's probably why its so difficult for me. But I'll check out Dostoyevsky since I've heard so much about him. Thanks guys.

>>18384157
because it's written in 1899's British, very choppy

>>18384157
It really isn't very good.

>>18384157
Don’t fight the text. Just plow through it. Even if you have to read a page 5 times over, just keep at it. You’re not alone in this. Many people go through some friction while reading HOD. Apprehension is better than speed reading. Sometimes I’ll read 100 pages in a day, other times I’m only able to get through 15. Nonetheless, if you have to use a guide then do so. You only get filtered if you allow yourself. The fact that you’re conscious of the threat means you’re not some pseud brainlet

>>18384157
>>18384282
Don't drop it, it's fairly short anyway. The ending does feel non-linear because it seems to suggest Kurtz is dead initially, then suddenly hopping to listening to him speak, but once you finish it you'll have a clear picture of it all. It's not so important you understand the way the plot goes, rather you should understand what kind of a man Kurtz is and what Conrad is telling you with that

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>>18384309

Okay, I'll pick it up again and read through it with a guide and I'll focus on the message that Conrad's is trying to tell me. Thanks for the support guys.

>>18384157
I took notes on every page while reading this. I enjoyed it though, but you have to read it slowly compared to more modern literature.

It's an absolute fucking belter. Pay attention to the frame narrative - Marlowe's interjections to his interlocutors - which reveal as much about his character and story as his narrative itself. And bear in mind Conrad's notorious technique of delayed decoding - presenting a sense impression before revealing the meaning. And that the meaning of the text - both local and general - is presented as a "misty halo" rather than a "kernel" of direct exposition.

>>18384157
It's a shitty book, and not because it's difficult.

just take notes
treat it like playing Myst or any other adventure game
write down questions you have, observations, instance of the unreliable or biased narrator
treat it like a game

>>18384705
take notes
while i take tokes on the marijuana smoke

>>18384157
It's a great work of art. Sad you cannot appreciate it.

>>18384157
Read a introduction or review about the book first. Getting spoiled in literature doesn't matter as long as you enjoy the prose, meaning and techniques.

It's like 100 pages, dude? How are you getting filtered? It's a day's read.

>>18384157
Heart of Darkness was one of the most garbage books ever written and deserves to be erased from history for being such piss.

>>18387464
Filtered

>>18387000
Well, he's right that it's deliberately obtuse. The first reading is quite difficult, at least to read well. But worth it.

Its meant to feel like a fever dream.

>>18384157
I read it when I was fourteen, I read the whole thing in like three days and didn't understand it. I watched Apocalypse Now, re-read it, and I found it way better. Highly recommend this method if you are in grade nine.

>>18388339
>implying anon is past grade 8

>>18387464

>>18384157
Unironically filtered.

Don't worry though. I couldn't really understand it the first time I read it either. I eventually came back to it later on and loved it.

I had it assigned in high school and got filtered bro!,!

Which Conrad should I pick up to get back into him? Heard good things about lord Jim but what about the Nigger one hahaha!

>>18387464
Agreed, but you'll be hated for this truth.

>>18388550
Lol honestly I think this must be b8(!!). But just in case not, the N-bomb of the Narcissus is actually a pretty good place to start. Or Secret Agent. Or any of them really, he's great.

>>18388550
His big four are Lord Jim, Nostromo, The Secret Agent and Under Western Eyes. All pretty good. Nostromo is probably the best of the group but all of them are quality works.

>>18388577
Thanks anon *winks*

>>18388575
Not bait bro and I think the word you're looking for is nigger there's no Conrad book with n word in the title

>>18384232
>Dostoyevsky
Who?

>>18388672
One of the GOATs of all time, no biggie.

>>18384157
Like the movie better than the book.

>>18384301

>filtered by Heart of Darkness.

It's really great writing.

>>18384404
Great analysis.

>>18388923
I like the trailer better than the movie

>>18388374
It shouldn't be controversial. It's legitimately a bad book. You're just offended that not everybody masturbates to Conrad.

I read the book in school and really liked it, I liked it so much that I stole a copy of it from the school.
I read that copy a couple years ago because I was going to Africa and I had the same problem you did, having to reread pages and losing interest quickly. I've read Blood Meridian so I don't think it's the language.
Reading it years later was like reading a completely different book.

>>18387464
people will say shit like this and then go on and on about great of a writer fucking Melville is

>>18384157
if you dont like just dont read it. reading, for a person who probably isn't writing, should be fun and something you look forward to

>>18384157
having a tough time are you OP?
Excellent book. It's a ride into the darkness of your subconscious. I suppose that's non-linear innit :-D
did you at least enjoy the movie?

>>18384157
I had to read it in Dutch. One of the few books I genuinely couldn't get through in English.

I remember reading this in high school because it was assigned by my English teacher. It's been years, but I remember enjoying this a lot and being very surprised at the quality.
It could just be because of the time that's passed, but I don't see how this could be a particularly difficult book to get through.
>>18389806
>Reading it years later was like reading a completely different book.
Interesting - I'll have to go back and reread it in this case.

> “Sometimes he was contemptibly childish. He desired to have kings meet him at railway-stations on his return from some ghastly Nowhere, where he intended to accomplish great things. ‘You show them you have in you something that is really profitable, and then there will be no limits to the recognition of your ability,’ he would say. ‘Of course you must take care of the motives—right motives—always.’ The long reaches that were like one and the same reach, monotonous bends that were exactly alike, slipped past the steamer with their multitude of secular trees looking patiently after this grimy fragment of another world, the forerunner of change, of conquest, of trade, of massacres, of blessings. I looked ahead—piloting. ‘Close the shutter,’ said Kurtz suddenly one day; ‘I can’t bear to look at this.’ I did so. There was a silence. ‘Oh, but I will wring your heart yet!’ he cried at the invisible wilderness.
Oh, but I will wring your heart yet!

>>18389875
I mean you can cry about it all you want it anon it doesn't change the fact that Heart of Darkness is garbage.

>>18392573
I mean you can cry about it all you want it anon it doesn't change the fact that you're a filtered nigger.

Why do I get the feeling you have a book report to write? Anyway, I digest. Marlowe pilots a steamer up the Congo and gets butt-fukked by a tribe of dark coloured peeps. Becomes flaming queer. First case of ebola. End of story. Fini.

>>18392586
Why do you seethe so much at the simple fact that not everybody likes your gay little book? :)

>>18392663
Only literal niggers hate the book, not even memeing here.

>>18392671
It's an awful book. Get over it.

>>18392809
You've been filtered, get over it, N'googa.

>>18392823
If you're trying to prove that Heart of Darkness is the Holy Bible of mouthbreathers then you're doing very well.

>>18394297
>More than a hundred years later
>still filtering niggers
How did Conrad do it? Truly BASED.

>>18392809
Nah, it's great. Filtered by based 'rad

why are you reading this racist book? chud

read "white teeth" or something by chinche achebe

>>18395854
no

>>18392809
cope

>>18384157
I couldn't understand the book because of the vocabulary