/lit/ - Literature

That he has resentment issues as do a lot of people who buy into his thinking.

>>23177846
>THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
Read this then ask again.

>>23177846
Um ok Marx.

>>23177846
It's an open declaration of war on the middle class and the bourgeoisie which makes it perfectly justifiable to kill every communist you meet on the spot

>>23177854
This is how i justify fascism and genocide to myself thank you Mr. Twain!

>>23177846
What he is saying is that shouldnt feel bad for shooting communists on the spot. They arent humans to begin with.

>>23177846
I thought he was deceitful, but this is pretty honest, so I'm thinking based

>>23177854
Just proves Marx is total ignorant of history, as to be expected

>>23177846
that the communist party will use totalitarian means - including terror - to achieve its progamme and will be completely unapologetic about this.

>>23177916
Do you even know what Marx is referring to?

>>23177875
Ironic image, considering Engels bankrupted your idol and sent him toward a miserable life until he died.

>>23177859
No it's not.

>>23177867
If fascists killed those who orchestrated the real Terror(s) instead of collaborating with them then they would be based yes.

>>23177916
That's Mark Twain.

This is James Connolly:

>“One great source of the strength of the ruling class has ever been their willingness to kill in defence of their power and privileges. Let their power be once attacked either by foreign foes, or domestic revolutionists, and at once we see the rulers prepared to kill, and kill, and kill. The readiness of the ruling class to order killing, the small value the ruling class has ever set upon human life, is in marked contrast to the reluctance of all revolutionists to shed blood.

>The French Reign of Terror is spoken of with horror and execration by the people who talk in joyful praise about the mad adventure of the Dardanelles. And yet in any one day of battle at the Dardanelles there were more lives lost than in all the nine months of the Reign of Terror.

>Should the day ever come when revolutionary leaders are prepared to sacrifice the lives of those under them as recklessly as the ruling class do in every war, there will not be a throne or despotic government left in the world. Our rulers reign by virtue of their readiness to destroy human life in order to reign; their reign will end on the day their discontented subjects care as little for the destruction of human life as they do.”

>>23177846
Marx wasn't an idiot. He knew that a paradigm shift does not come without violent upheaval otherwise it's not really a paradigm shift.

>>23177846
He thought pirates were cool.

>>23177846
That the massacres and genocides that came about in China and Russia were to be expected. The soil of communism is nourished by the blood of capitalists and anyone who is not friends with the regime. Afterwards, everything will be hunkydory and people will hold hands and sing in the gray commie blocks.

Really nigga?

>>23177859
>middle class
Didnt exist before 1945

>>23178175
So retarded. The established system has demonstrated it can do basic shit like feed the troops, it does work, adds value. Before actually accomplishing anything a theory of a revolutionary has not demonstrated the ability to accomplish anything. There's no reason to kill for the deranged fantasies of some brainwashed retards who don't understand anything about the real world. These retards still managed to pull it off after Connolly said those words and it was a disaster every time. They had the opportunities to demonstrate the power of their ideas and they couldn't do it.
The Islamic expansion, a revolution against established power structures killed more than both the examples given and they did that through demonstrating to people that their ideas worked to exert power over the world.

>>23177846
That all communists are liars and that their actual motive is hurting people as revenge for being disgusting dysgenic freaks.

Every word, every rhetorical trick is just that. It is a lie to keep you from noticing that they do not act as though they believe any of this, they act as though they want power, and specifically to torture and kill their perceived oppressors, who include (checks notes) nuns, farmers, priests, anyone who owns land, shopkeepers, their dad, and generally everyone who isn't a disgusting mentally ill shitsoul.

Marx, like all of his people, believe absolutely and unequivocally that they are entitled to rape torture and murder anyone in the world, and that it is the evil government which is stopping them from raping torturing and murdering everyone. They lie, and phrase this as the government stopping them from being free and everyone being happy and having infinite blowjobs and whiskey, but it is actually that they want to rape and torture and murder people. You can tell that this is true, because when they seize control, they don't give everyone infinite blowjobs and whiskey, but they do torture, rape and murder everyone.

Their window to do this was when the industrial revolution was really just getting into full gear, and so there was still a largely alienated caste of peasants who were ignorant enough to actually be taken in by this shit-colored nonsense, and hard enough to actually fight for their thief masters, to steal the whole country. But this does not work in any society where the average person can read, or with any social mobility whatsoever--truth be told if they have any real political representation at all. In that situation, you get a Franco, or a Hitler, who resolve this problem in reverse by torturing, raping, and executing communists.

This is all very funny, but suffice to say, they still haven't apologized or made excuses for their mass murder and terror, because they feel entirely entitled to rape and murder as many people as they can, because having to get a job is an offense against the human soul or something.

>>23178213
i guess he's never heard of restorations? he moved to england, should've at least heard of this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Restoration

>>23177854
A casual lie, couched in an emotional platitude. There were not two reigns of terror, there was one. What he is describing as the "first" Reign of Terror is just the existence of civilization, and he lies, and conflates incorrectly the second Reign of Terror as having ended the first.

It did not. Civilization and all of the wickedness of "capitalism" (the real world) is still there, and then atop of all of those problems are also all of the innocents casually murdered in the revolution, and the millions who died in its immediate aftermath. Nothing humiliates and utterly undoes the lie of the French Revolution is cleanly and as clearly as Napoleon.

>>23178541
The Stuarts literally abolished feudal tenure of land and Marx wrote extensively about this in Capital.

>>23177846
Leftists will say this shit and then turn around and be like "we just want to improve the lives of the working class uwu it's called having empathy"

>>23177854
there has been some oppression in the last thousand years therefore I am justified in beheading anybody who criticizes me and my gang

>>23178611
so then clearly the paradigm can shift peacefully. he should've encouraged a restoration that abolished private property.

>>23178523
evergreen

>>23178523
It's literally just rapists and murderers who want an ideological justification to rape and murder. Marxism gives them that excuse.

>>23177854
He was so real for this.

>>23178523
Exactly. Remember, it is always right to stomp a communist.

>>23177846
He meant that his heart was full of cruel, embittered and impotent resentment toward this world and everything in it.

>>23178175
>>Should the day ever come when revolutionary leaders are prepared to sacrifice the lives of those under them as recklessly as the ruling class do in every war, there will not be a throne or despotic government left in the world. Our rulers reign by virtue of their readiness to destroy human life in order to reign; their reign will end on the day their discontented subjects care as little for the destruction of human life as they do.”
Obviously that's not how it works. Revolutionaries who are callous towards the people under them just become new despots when they take power.

>>23177854
I fucking hate Mark Twain. You can tell he was a midwit and a disgusting little worm because he didn't like Jane Austen. That's always the sign of a pleb.

>>23177854
>rapes the word terror
So lefties have been raping language since day one, huh.

>>23179357
The transformation from feudal to bourgeoise property didnt happen peacefully lol.

>>23179336
Leftist aren't communist.

>>23177846
*sniff* go to gulag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dKcsi3ePvc

Marx was based and I don't care what you faggots say

>>23178523
Holy /pol/tard protection

>>23180839
you're trans btw

>>23178523
Let me guess, you are an american?
Enjoy your dead-end job for the next 20 years until you bite the bullet.

>>23179359
I use arguments such as someone's looks yes I am very smart ZIEG HEIL! ZIEG HEIL! ZIEG HEIL!

>>23181013
>>/lit/image/6Ia3a-lXHVRdY_1pMzbDHQ
absolute state of you lmao

>>23181013
>>23181148
Why are poltroons so mentally ill?

>>23181166
>>23181148
you're a crossdressing communist

literally begging for attention like a dog

>>23180604

>>23181032
>>23181032
>WE'RE GONNA TERRORIZE YOU WE'RE GONNA BRUTALIZE YOU WE DON'T MAKE APOLOGIES BECUZ WE'RE BIG AND TOUGH SCARY CO-

5 seconds later screaming projection and howling in impotent rage. You got your fag teeth busted out children, take the L.

>>23178523
True. The two core values driving Marxists are instrumental harm and malicious envy.

>>23178523
pure hysterics haha

>pure hysterics hah-ACK

>it's a faggot rushes to defend his Jewish business overlords thread
God such fucking womanly hysterics. Yes, 19th bourgeois "revolutionaries" were faggots and Marx was right to shit on them. They're the same type today that gets vaxxed supports open borders. I hope Haitians eat you all.

>>23181646
>I hope Haitians eat you all.
Such stoic and reasoned insight. You sure showed those hysterical women who dared take issue with reasonable and productive death threats.

>>23181624
>terrified of nogs
>terrified of marxists
lift some weights lil bro

>>23181727
nobody is out to kill you, you mindbroken kwab

>>23181727
>COMMUNISTS ALL WANT TO RAPE AND MURDER ME, I SAW A TWEET THAT SAID SO
Living in fear over a dead ideology. Personally, I'm terrified of the bonapartists getting me.

>>23181738
>>23181763
you're trans btw

>>23181738
>nobody is out to kill you
We're discussing quotes where both you and your retarded idol express joy in the idea of seeing people who slightly oppose you murdered or eaten by cannibals.
Either you're honest which means you're evil or you're lying which means you're evil. What your motivations are or what you retards actually mean nobody can know since you make statements and then pretend those statements were never made or don't mean anything.
>>23181763
What the fuck are you talking about retard? Who are you quoting?

>>23177854
he has a point tho
why do we care about so much about muh holocaust instead of paying more attention to the gradual white genocide?

>>23181860
it's the ole "it's not happening and it's good that it is"

>>23177846
>I WANT YOU MONEY AND I'M NOT AFRAID OF STEALING AND KILLING FOR IT INSTEAD OF WORKING.
He was the german version of a nigger/jew. he was just human enough to create a whole philosophy justifying stealing.

>and we ask no compassion from you
False

>>23181860
>Who are you quoting
The guy up thread that wrote
>Marx, like all of his people, believe absolutely and unequivocally that they are entitled to rape torture and murder anyone in the world
And I guess this faggot >>23181875 posting tweets from "a new radical centrism". Hoping Haitians eat you is an obvious joke about your histrionic need to feel threatened by communist homos. You're both braindead morons that think I'm a transexual communist because... I'm not afraid of Anita faggots? Keep worshipping the Anglo-Jew market idol, I'm sure your situation will improve.

>>23182227
>fascism is when you make an attempt to stop third world cannibal niggers from invading your country

>>23182240
Can you point to where I said that, retard?

>>23182244
Here:
>>23182227

>>23182292
Christ you're an ignorant nigger

>>23182227
Why don't you care about logic and coherence? Why do you reply to me but address what some other retard said?
>And I guess this faggot >>23181875 posting tweets from "a new radical centrism".
That tweet is about the same kind of inconsistency and dishonesty you're showing. It has nothing to do with "histrionic fear".
Where's the histrionics besides your deranged posts about cannibals?
Why do you, a supposedly reasonable non-commie get so triggered and hysterical simply from someone noticing the dumb shit commies do and say? It's an ideology with manifestos explicitly talking about taking over the entire world with violence, for its own good. When their revolutions were successful they did in fact rape torture and murder their political opponents. There are many public examples including entire well known families.

>>23182384
Are you actually retarded? I'm making fun of you for worrying about communists like they're an existential threat while your current government literally rapes tortures and murders their own citizens. Do you think the CIA is communist or something?

>>23182429
>zoomer is too self-centred to realize the existential threat communism posed to Western ideals and literally deflects into Soviet era whataboutism with zero self-awareness
NTA but you're dumb.

>>23182384
The Red Terror was self defence and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>23182292
it’s important to take anime profile picture accounts on twitter seriously

>>23182443
>B-BUT I ALWAYS ASKED WHAT PRONOUNS SHOULD BE USED
>Are you saying our glorious system got it wrong with you?
>N-NA-N-NO
>Turn and face the wall.

amogus

>>23182442
If you greentext more buzzwords you'll vanquish the red menace.

>>23182469
>thinks in buzzwords
NGMI.

>>23182454
you got your events mixed up

>>23182429
Actually I'm saying EVERY aspect of the federal government has been taken over by marxists, because the long march through the institutions worked, and the only problem is that you are (and will always be) too entirely retarded to maintain the systems you worked so hard to subvert, which is why everything is collapsing.

>>23182479

>>23182486
>Actually I'm saying EVERY aspect of the federal government has been taken over by marxists
Don't every reply to me with this retarded shit again.

>>23182486
wumao please speak to your supervisor for extra training on how to use a comma

>>23182495
@(You)

>>23182499
What about this image is communist?

>>23182510
All of it.

>>23182516
Sorry, but due to the low quality of your posts I can only assume you have some sort of mental illness. I'm sorry if I stressed you out. I recommend watching Peer Gynt (1934) on repeat to calm down.

>>23182529
I accept your concession, you may now proceed to dilate while contemplating your horrible life decisions.

>>23182429
>I'm making fun of you for worrying about communists
But you're not saying anything except advertising you're a retard with no understanding of history, how ideas work or how to apply the simplest logic.
Let's say I'm wrong and the murderers who say they want to kill me are actually fine upstanding people, why do you pretend that means I ignore the crimes of some other faggots like the CIA? For some reason you also chose an example that justified itself for most of its existence using demonstrable crimes of commies.
And yes, of course the retards at the CIA like other burger retards that went through burger academia are influenced by the academic trends of the 20th century which is saturated with commie nonsense about justifying rape torture and murder.

>>23182542
friendly reminder

>>23182576
Please tell me he is referring to the Soviet Union

>>23182590
It sounds like it applies to all communists, especially and including to the commie faggot ITT.

>>23182542
Since your understanding of history is superior to mine please tell me what Marx was talking about in the OP image. Mine is obviously too ignorant and I want to be correct.
>And yes, of course the retards at the CIA... are influenced by the academic trends of the 20th century which is saturated with commie nonsense
I'm sure Kermit Roosevelt's head was swirling with communist ideology when he pulled off the Iranian coup. McCain, ardent communist, was salivating over the Marxist ideology he was about to impose on Ukraine before the 2014 coup over there.

>>23182618
Retard.

>>23182542
>why do you pretend that means I ignore the crimes of some other faggots like the CIA?
It goes like this: "you care about THIS but let's bring up THAT? If you truly cared about the factors which you say concern you regarding THIS you'd be criticizing THAT. No no no, the conversation is about THAT now."

>>23182628
I agree Spivak has the superior textbook

>>23182628
They reject shorthand that criticizes their beliefs (e.g. people know what's meant by "cultural marxism" but they'll open a semantic argument about esoteric aspects of terms instead of what's implied by the label). This allows them to retreat to unearned condescension--the defensive position (or safe space) of all libtards and their useful (i.e. people in the 21st century who still call themselves "communists").

>>23182648
>Spivak has the superior textbook
No he doesn't. Stewart's main book is the foundational text for a vast array of applied subjects whereas Spivak is for autists who at best go on to working on esoteric problems that interest 0.0000000001% of the population.

>>23182618
He's justifying evil because the oppressive "others" did it first, impotently seething because some royalists censored him. The fact that the royalists made excuses makes them more righteous than Marx, they appeal to some reasons for their violations of principles they say they value. Not making any excuses for it is abandoning reason and the ability for those being oppressed to appeal to those same reasons in turn. He's dreaming about a future where raw power with no respect for any ideals rules and he's on the side of that raw power.
>I'm sure Kermit Roosevelt's head was swirling with communist ideology when he pulled off the Iranian coup
What does it have to do with anything either way? I doubt he was but maybe, it's not as unreasonable as you seem to think that some anti-commie faggot was influenced by ideas from influential commie thinkers and propagandists.

>>23182618
>leftypol tranny
>russian propaganda
everytime. these freaks are pure subhumans.

>>23182676
This is bait and the Soviets at least valued science and engineering. When they were around I had the option to buy a reliable car with cheap parts. The competition forced the globohomo to always offer something better. Now there's an absolute globohomo monopoly and I can't buy anything reliable.

>>23182663
Alright, you've won. The superiority of your arguments has defeated me. You and the schizophrenic can post Twitter screenshots together.

>>23182720
>insane off-topic rambling from the leftypol tranny

https://vocaroo.com/133IgW1sWrNg

WHO CARES?

>>23182723
Now you're the one using dishonest tactics that were only ever publicly justified as reasonable by commies and the PR industry.

>>23182721
k

>>23182720
>valued science and engineering
That's what white people do. It has nothing to do with communism.

>>23182750
I'm replying to a guy shitting on muh hecking based Russia not communism.

>>23181026
At least you're not lying and saying he's wrong. Just jump straight to impotent seething.

when can communism be tried in western europe and the anglosphere?
communism needs to be tried in those places

>>23182750
communism must be whiter than capitalism because since capitalism expanded across Russia, we never got good cars again

>>23181204

>>23181032
t.

>>23180604
Marx was a Jew. No amount of "how do you do fellow Proletariat" will change that. This isin fact probably the most Jewish thing he's ever said, the schizophrenic insurance of playing both sides.

>>23177889
It is pretty based

>>23180604
Who do you think is denouncing him in this thread? The only people who claim Marx was jewish-despite his own writings condemning both rabbinics, and judaism itself, are rabbinicalists. I mean if they have the nerve to try to say Hitler and Bobby Fisher are 'jewish' they'll try it with anybody. They do it because they're struggling for relevance.

>>23177846
>gibes me dat fo free
the absolute state of marx

>>23183429
It's fascism. State centralized collectivism.
You've never noticed the state socialist *National Socialists* do the exact same things? Only difference is a goal of brotherhood of all.

Now we have liberal state oligarchy with weak social programs and no collectivism whatsoever. The only one with "gibs".

>>23183428
>The only people who claim Marx was jewish
Historians and scientists? Trying to deny Marx was Jewish is a complete divorce from reality, everything from the genetics to the paper record all disagree. Are you trans?

>>23182499
Yes, the people tearing down Lenin statues and fighting these Russians are Marxists. You truly understand politics.

>>23182499
Yes, the people tearing down Lenin statues and fighting these Russians are Marxists. You truly understand politics.

>>23183535
Do you have connections to intelligence agencies or other organized attempts to influence social media? Who are you braindead lying trannies who show up everywhere with these smug declarations meant to convince people that history didn't happen?

>>23178523
This man speaks the truth. Leftism only exists to deconstruct, to destroy. The only good communist is a dead communist.

amogus

>>23183993
This, but for fascism instead

>>23179352
>there has been some oppression in the last thousand years therefore I am justified in beheading anybody who criticizes me and my gang
This but unironically.

>>23177846
Why even discuss this? It is not like the proletariat is some leashed dog that can be controlled by anybody.