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23330503 No.23330503 [Reply] [Original]

You can feel it when you are out in public, no one gives a fuck about anything anymore. Even normies are blackpilled husks now.
I go to work and basically just do nothing. I don't give a shit if they fire me, it literally doesn't matter at this point. I'm poor if I'm NEETing and poor if I work full time. This society is pointless.
No community, no property, no families, no future. Where the fuck do we even go from here?



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23330498 No.23330498 [Reply] [Original]

Opinions on marx personal I think he's retarded. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.



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23330471 No.23330471 [Reply] [Original]

I want to write in third person omniscient, so lets say i am describing something happening to the main character, so he is about to be clobbered. I want to be able to shift btn him having no idea what's happening and the attacker's perspective towards the beginning of the attack. Are there any rules against this? I have heard editors talk about it on youtube but it doesn't seem like a particularly rigid rule, it seems more like a preference for them.



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23330449 No.23330449 [Reply] [Original]

Stephen King was self publishing his short stories in magazines at age 12. I read a few of them and obviously they’re not amazing but they’re surprisingly good for a literal child

Is he an anomaly in terms of authors? His sheer output is insane

Even if you don’t like his work I feel like you gotta respect the grind. If his actual writing career didn’t launch with Carrie I feel like he still would have made it big within a few years with a different book regardless.

>> No.23330481

Would the caliber of his writing have been higher if he had not been so concerned with volume/output?

>Respect the grind
Yes

>> No.23330497

>>23330481
I honestly don’t think so. The best ways to get better at writing is to read a lot, and write a lot.

He clearly read a ton from a young age, and reads a lot to this day since he’s always getting review quotes on others books

The reason his works are so popular I think is down to his style and flair for ideas. I think writing so damn much made him figure out the best most enjoyable flow of reading for people to consume his work. It’s why even in “bad” Stephen king books people still enjoy the dialogue, characters, setting, flow etc

If he’d slowed his output and perhaps tried to focus solely on one book every couple years I doubt they’d actually be that much better than they would have been regardless. Most likely there’d just be less books, but they’d be much bigger projects like IT. Except IT was especially well suited to the length because of the two timelines. While the shining is 447 pages long and frankly is pretty shit at times when it tries to be spooky. The best parts are focusing on mental health, alcoholism, abuse etc

IT in comparison is 1138 pages. Imagine how god awful the shining would be if it was anywhere near close to that.



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23330419 No.23330419 [Reply] [Original]

I miss it so much.



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23330396 No.23330396 [Reply] [Original]

Why do pessimistic philosophers have so much to say than optimistic ones?

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>> No.23330485

>>23330396
Because optimism boils down to you. You can overcome your challenges, you can become the person you want to be, and so on.

Thus, the optimist can't tell you how good everything is, because you have to do it yourself. You have to see how capable you are. That takes time and effort, and can't be expressed in a 3 hour essay.

>> No.23330494

>>23330403
>You can't run out of things to whine and cry about if you adopt a pessimistic mindset. Even perfection is up to critique as being "Too simplistic, without struggle" As a pessimist
This
Pessimism is the result of letting the nagging voice in your mind run wild. That voice can run forever.
Optimism (or even just simple acceptance that things are shit and that it will be okay) is ascending above that voice. There really isn't much to be said when you are accepting of the world. You just experience the world through your senses instead of living in your mind and commenting on every ugly or dirty thing there is.

>> No.23330502

>>23330396
there's a lot of that can be said about optimism n my thoughpinion. people just aren't very good at it.

for example, a maxim I like is "one must see turds as gentians"

>> No.23330510

>>23330444
>>23330396
It's laughably easy to convince people you're smart or enlightened just by being a contrarian or cynical

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23330511

I'm going to use this stuff on why pessimist philosophy is retarded.



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23330390 No.23330390 [Reply] [Original]

Are there any Brazilian books that take place in 1970s Sao Paulo?

Please no meme answers.

>> No.23330405

No



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23330366 No.23330366 [Reply] [Original]

>sitting outside in park after lunch
>enjoying the beautiful day
>digesting the food
>watching the wild life around the duck pond
>reading my book
>feel a dark presence descend upon me
>it gets eerily quiet
>can't hear any nature sounds
>the air feels tense
>*AHEM*
>HARRO!
Not today you Korean fuck. Lol, I didn't even let that fucker start his "HARRO WIRD YOU RIIIKE TO JERN MY KOREAN CHERCH" spiel. I immediatelybstood up when he cleared his throat and told that old faggot I'm not interested and walked away. I didn't even need to look up to know it was him. As soon as I felt the atmosphere change, I knew. Then I heard his fucking annoying retarded throat clearing and got the fuck out of his predatorial grasp.
Get fucked retard, and fuck you for ruining my afternoon in the park.

>> No.23330373

It’s interesting how people have now problem interrupting your reading to ask what you’re reading. If you went up to someone looking at their phone and asked them what they were looking at though you would be seen as weird

>> No.23330389

>>23330373
It's because the phone holds private communications and is multi-faceted. A newspaper or a book is not like that. It's very obvious what you're engaging in, and asking about what you're reading can provoke a conversation about its subject. With the phone, I have no idea what you're doing, and asking that question becomes an invasion of privacy and too personal (you could be reading texts). Also, people have been raised with the idea that their internet browsing history should be private. Most people are not open about what they browse on the internet other than blanket statements such as "news", "videos", and "social media". Me asking what you're reading on the phone all of a sudden forced you to divulge what content you view on social media. It's just poor taste.

>> No.23330395

I was given a bible by a street preacher and read it on my shift at a local bar. A (very hot) girl approached me and said she would bring me “good” books if I stopped reading that “trash”. She was really triggered by it. I just laughed and said “I’ve already read Green Eggs and Ham”. She got pissed but we became friendly the next time I saw her. I think she got beat by her convict boyfriend later. I always heard a lot of rumors about her but never got to know her well.

>> No.23330418

I’m constantly being pestered by attractive college aged women who ask me what I’m reading.
I’ve learned to just say Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace just so they walk away with a disgusted look on their face.
I rused them though. I’m actually reading White Fragility.

>> No.23330430

>>23330418
>admits to being a subhuman ereader
YIKES!



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23330354 No.23330354 [Reply] [Original]

Our conception of reality is purely illusory, it is only a script, a set of beliefs, so how can the ubermensch emerge ?

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23330362

you are looking at it, the Nietzschean Hypermale



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23330346 No.23330346 [Reply] [Original]

Outsider men and prostitutes. Why is this such a recurring theme?
>Catcher in the Rye
>Notes from Underground
not books but
>Taxi Driver
>BR2049
I mean, we know the MCs are lonely but why have the need for a major scene where they visit a whore? Is it solely a male thing? Feel free to list any other examples/and or discuss.

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>> No.23330412

>>23330402
But I also fantasize that I can save her and bring her to a cozy bungalow somewhere warm where she can be at peace, because she said she hated the cold.

>> No.23330417

>>23330346
book I'm writing has main character visit one. main character is a male, but he visits it because of temptation/curiosity. about to go on a long voyage and worried would die without ever having sex. I felt the scene was needed because I have the character reflect on his religion a lot during the scene. he ends up so conflicted about what he's doing that he doesnt finish and just starts berating the girl about why she does what she does once he notices a Bible on her nightstand.

doesnt really answer your question much but maybe my example gives some kind of insight?

>> No.23330440

>>23330417
I don't have a lot of media literacy but sounds like it's part of his journey of self-exploration. How does the girl react? I've heard prosties irl hate it when the guy does this.

>> No.23330450

the lower you are on the totem poll as a homeless man or neet, the more you can only get laid with a hooker

>> No.23330453

>>23330440
she doesn't speak the same language, so is just scared/confused/upset she might not get the full amount of money.



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23330308 No.23330308 [Reply] [Original]

>When Austen was twenty, Tom Lefroy (the future Lord Chief Justice of Ireland), a neighbour, visited Steventon from December 1795 to January 1796. He had just finished a university degree and was moving to London for training as a barrister. Lefroy and Austen would have been introduced at a ball or other neighbourhood social gathering, and it is clear from Austen's letters to Cassandra that they spent considerable time together: "I am almost afraid to tell you how my Irish friend and I behaved. Imagine to yourself everything most profligate and shocking in the way of dancing and sitting down together."

>Austen wrote in her first surviving letter to her sister Cassandra that Lefroy was a "very gentlemanlike, good-looking, pleasant young man".[65] Five days later in another letter, Austen wrote that she expected an "offer" from her "friend" and that "I shall refuse him, however, unless he promises to give away his white coat", going on to write "I will confide myself in the future to Mr Tom Lefroy, for whom I don't give a sixpence" and refuse all others.[65] The next day, Austen wrote: "The day will come on which I flirt my last with Tom Lefroy and when you receive this it will be all over. My tears flow as I write at this melancholy idea".

Why are women like this, bros?

>> No.23330315

I don't get it. But then again I haven't been able to get that time a woman seemed to be flirting with me and then blocked me afterwards, either.



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23330274 No.23330274 [Reply] [Original]

Are there any books with a similar plot and characters ?

>> No.23330276

>>23330274
Lolita

>> No.23330286

>>23330274
Alice in Wonderland you nonce



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23330273 No.23330273 [Reply] [Original]

What was the message of this book?

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23330318

>>23330273
It's about the loneliness of the long distance runner but with mentally ill characters instead ("prime numbers" are what R9k would call "robots"). What more do you need to know?



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23330267 No.23330267 [Reply] [Original]

What is the point in writing if I will never be him?

>> No.23330270

Why be Dostoevsky when you could be yourself? Dead Russians ain't got nothing you don't have. Stop with the self hatred

>> No.23330468

>>23330267
why you should write even if you suck
>cathartic
>organizes thoughts
>improves reading skill
>without bad writing we wouldn't know what good writing is

>> No.23330518

>>23330267
Do It for yourself
Do it because it can be good for yourself
Do it because a skill honed with passion is a good one to have



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23330262 No.23330262 [Reply] [Original]

Short but extraordinary, not one word wasted.

>> No.23330287

It was dull ESL trash, not a single page was engaging but it acted like it was a deeply moving emotional odyssey

>> No.23330342

A Pole wrote it. My ancestor :)



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23330210 No.23330210 [Reply] [Original]

The average person is practically illiterate. Most people who browse here (and the internet in general) are horrified of reading anything beyond a paragraph long. Even if they dare to try, they often fail to comprehend what they read. How does this make you feel?

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>> No.23330231

>>23330228
It's a doggy dog world out there my friend
The big dog eats the little dog's food and the little dog starves

>> No.23330233

>>23330210
Horny

>> No.23330235

>>23330210
it makes me feel like reporting this thread for being off-topic

>> No.23330239

>>23330231
It's a dog-feed-dog world, doomer. The big dog hunts and brings food for the little ones.

>> No.23330247

a bit scared, but also a bit more compelled toward figuring out what to do about it



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23330198 No.23330198 [Reply] [Original]

book by African
>protagonist chased by warlords and druglords, threatened with violence, diseases, rape and poverty but somehow ends up positive and optimistic
book by Westerners
>protagonist works 9-5, get told some mean works and now wants to kill himself/herself



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https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=65e53a3906d34



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23330151 No.23330151 [Reply] [Original]

>is a raging alcohol in your path
How am I supposed to take any of his writing to heart?

>> No.23330157

>>23330151
>How am I supposed to take any of his writing to heart?
By thinking about it and synthesizing the parts which make sense to you while discarding the parts that don't... same way anyone who isn't an intellectual sloth interacts with any other ideas from any other source. I haven't even read Watts and have no strong feelings about him one way or the other. I'm just asking you to be more curious and rigorous in your thought instead of simply trying to find a thinker whose thoughts you can slurp up in their entirety from the spigot.

>> No.23330164

>>23330151
By accepting people's flawed nature and recognizing that a flawed man can still comprehend and articulate worthwhile ideas
Usually this is done by taking the dick out of your ass and recognizing that you're flawed too

>> No.23330392

I don’t even think he want you to take him all that seriously. He said over and over again he was an entertainer and introducer of spiritual concepts not a legitimate guru. He’s a good jumping off point for further study not an end in himself.

>> No.23330451

>>23330164
I'm happy to accept people's flawed nature
I'm happy to admit I'm flawed too
I like a lot of Alan Watts work and don't think his alcoholism invalidated any of that
Addiction doesn't inherently take away from the rest of someone's like accomplishments

But I will NOT take the dick out of my ass. Good day sir!



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23330013 No.23330013 [Reply] [Original]

why do women do this?

>> No.23330022

>>23330013
That aint fa you shawty that’s for them other bitches