/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7164403
>>7164409
wonder why you'd rather have a gazillion howie, bait and social media threads instead of more threads like these

>>7164587
wonder why you assume we'd rather have a gazillion whatever you just said.
none of this shit is welcome here.

>>7164587
>>7164658
Let's try not fight amongst ourselves. We are all trying to make art.

>>7164377
Here's an alternate take to >>7164437

Exaggerate the FUCK out of the proportions. You drew him at a height of about 7.5 heads, which is realistic but in a fantasy setting makes him look like a bit of a manlet.

Search up a picture of Warhammer's Emperor and count his height - it's about 10 heads! Not realistic at all but fits well in an epic fantasy setting.

>>7165276
And why is the dragon so small...is he slaying a crocodile??

>>7164381
Is the obsession with line confidence fundamentally patriarchal and chauvinistic?

The idea that art must be a thing of confident aggression.

>>7164591
>>7164372
>see that someone can draw half decently
>wow :0

>>7164591
no, lines can be confident and delicate
https://youtu.be/jVbhyHA6tOs?t=736

>>7164591
I could argue chicken scratching is more "masculine".
Confident lines are smooth and flowy and have a stronger concern for aesthetics and how something is "said".
Chicken scratched lines are concerned with simply depicting the thing in a rough and rugged manner on top of generally giving a rushed appearance in some cases. Generally lended more towards agressive or "edgy" artwork. Chicken scratch generally wants to do everything, from "chaotic searching lines" to lineart, lineweight and shading in a quick and rough manner.

Women generally do not like rough and rugged stuff as an aesthetic and will seek to correct this error sooner than men.

>>7164381
In his defense these are likely 3 minute max. sketches done with only a shitty ballpoint pen.
Some of the chicken scratch is meant to be shading for fat folds or give him a rough appearance in general.

>>7164591
Confident just means you know what you're doing. As in there's a difference between chicken scratches where you're trying to find the line vs someone who is making art scratchy on purpose to convey a feeling of disorder/messiness

>>7164284
Very insightful thread that adds a ton of value to the whole board. Thank you for this anon.


stop wasting our air and kys please

>>7164284
Very insightful thread that adds a ton of value to the whole board. Thank you for this anon.

please stop wasting my air

>>7164529
>t. the_internet_is_serious_business.jpg
What the fred fuchs is up with imageboard users and expecting "board quality", especially on /ic/? This isn't a traditional forum where you segregate between serious/shitpost threads. Threads come and go, nothing is lost. That's how it's always been, is and will be.
Also, if you're don't like the thread, then why are you bumping it? Are you too retarded to sage? You're smart enough to delete posts so idk wtf's your deal.

>>7164537
>why not sage
I prefer for others to see when I expose retards on the internet

Whenever I try to start a new hobby and see people younger than me be good in it I'm immediately discouraged and often quit
t. 31 years old with drawing as my one and only hobby

>>7164251
This, honestly.
Porn wise I'm drawing what child me would have wanted
But I haven't drawn many violent things, maybe I am letting child me down

>>7164249
>Before you were obsessed with porn and violence?
I spent my first ten years drawing naked anime girls and animals, monsters and dinosaurs disemboweling eachoter. I had a bucket full of spent red and pink markers, the other colors lasted until I reached teenage years and started only doing black and white
I was fucked from the start mate

>>7164249
>Did you make it anon?
Yes, I live off my art.
>Do you draw the kind of things you dreamed of drawing as a child?
I never experienced that. A s child all I cared about was playing and having fun.
>Before you were obsessed with porn and violence?
I'm not.
>Would your work make your childhood self proud?
No idea. As a child I didn't care about that.
Does it make my younger self proud? Yes, in terms of art skills I would be mad envious of current me.
>re you drawing the kind of illustrations that shaped your brain as a child and created that artistic desire that fueled you in the first place?
Kinda. 70s and 80s anime was my biggest influence, and I think I applied a lot of that to my current art.
>You didn't give up right?
Still trying to improve my craft, even tho, now that I focus on quicker results that definitely took a toll on the quality.
>You didn't let that part of you die
I like to think I still have some of that kid somewhere deep in my brain, yeah. At least I try not to be too cinical about anything in life. It's harder the older I get tho.

>>7164249
I'm not drawing anything, though.

>>7164249
>Do you draw the kind of things you dreamed of drawing as a child?
>Before you were obsessed with porn and violence?

The first drawings I made I still have from the time I was ~10yo are:
>a girl in bikini
and
>goku-like guy fighting piccolo-like guy, both doused in blood

>>7164161
Realest post itt

>>7164122
I've been drawing a couple of hours a day, every day for the past 7 weeks.
I absolutely suck at it and I'm going to end up committing suicide somewhere along the way.

>>7164446
Video games are great for improvement of art skills though. The improve motor functions and hand eye coordination which is vital for artists.

according to krita i somehow clock in 3~4 hours everyday
i legit feel like if i stop drawing i'll die

>>7164122
Not often enough. Sometimes I'll start stuff and then get distracted and then revisit it after a month. Pic related was done with a mouse and took me a month to finish. Not because it was hard (it was, using mouse sucks) but because I kept putting it off.

>>7164120
all hiring for these industry is always internal or people known by their current employee. They'd rather train their literally Janitors to do animation than get some tranny from USA or some poor shit shoveler from India.

>>7164313
> making some shitty fanart in it for a twitter post is not proving anything.
I never mentioned Twitter? I'm talking about comics, animation studios, etc.
The bottom line isn't just about profits, it's also cutting costs.
Also, like I said before, not pro AI. I'm just pointing out where it's all heading. I don't like the idea of artists being replaced, but big companies do look for cost-cutting opportunities when possible.
Lastly, there are people out there making money with AI. They make fake AI accounts to get simps to pay money for god knows why.
It's bizarre given all the free porn, but it's still money for little cost.
If individuals can leverage AI to make money, what makes you think corporations won't eventually do the same? The tech is only going to advance more exponentially.
It'll still be soulless, but it's cheap. That's what they care about.

>>7164313
The bottom line isn't just about generating profits, it also includes cost-cutting.
It's not about shitty fanart on Twitter, it's about large media corporations deciding if it's cheaper to go with AI, or keep paying teams of people to make stuff.
Again, not pro AI, I'm just pointing out where all this technology is heading. It's going to suck for creatives looking for work at established companies.
That's why I mentioned going independent in my first post.

>>7164338
Being unable to copyright AI creations means the death of brands who use it, since anyone will be able to rip them off and face no consequences. Similarly, if it becomes the norm to sue AI generations trained on shit you do own, these companies are gonna get fucked. It's too hot of an issue to risk going all in, at least for now. Then again, major companies are known for being out of touch retards, so it might happen anyway.

>>7164330
>entirely nepotized by calarts babies
people think this is a joke, but it's so true. There are so few openings now, that you can only get a job through networking, and to have a network, you pretty much have to go to a prestigious, expsnive art school, and the only people who can afford those schools are rich kids whose parents have $300k to blow on education.

These jobs aren't even really about merit anymore. It's all networking

>>7164095
Try looking up references and draw from life/ also try to imagine the style or look that you think is ideal and aim to get closer to that after mastering the basics.

Realize the truth anon, your ideal is the milkshake from aquateenhungerforce

>>7164127
appreciate it jit

>>7164095
Words of wisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up_KMtm0Gn0

>>7164980
come and say it to my face then
https://twitter.com/hexxewyrm

>>7165002
You’re a twitter faggot, do you really need to whore yourself on two websites? Not getting enough validation over there? Go back, cunt

>>7165146
i am sorry

>>7165057
>it doesn't matter if you don't love her, get married anyway
divorce lawyer hands typed this post

>>7165162
Idk what you're on about, this has a nice style and feel to the drawings. coloring and composition could use some refinement, but you definitely have a style that's working for you.

>>7164599
Comparison is the thief of joy. At least your brother left a mark in life unlike you, basement dweller.

>>7163989
You can do leaps and bounds in the first 2 years.
Study fundies, and qlways keep yourself on the edg3 of your abilityes
MAybe you can even get a fiew 30 dollar commision

But never stop learning new stuff.

The more one progresses the slower the learning process.
You can catch up, especially since at 23 your brain is mostly done cooking, and you might have mustered the willpower / humility to learn

Garfield 3:16 says: I JUST ATE YOUR LASAGNA

>>7163831
>Lunatic_Yokai
Hiyya! Good day! Please buy an ad or you can use our social media thread! See ya!

>>7163831
boards dead enough that I could care less about some artist shilling himself, good job anon keep improving tho

It exists. Internet never should have moved past shitposting behind a name like VagBlaster420.

>>7163818

>Muh Patreon
true im really getting sick of seeing artists shilling their patreons

>Drawing utensils next to the drawing
annoying trad users think they're special for placing their pen or pencil ever so neatly across the paper

>Signatures
yeah, ruins the artwork imo seeing transparent stamps or even their username

>Excessive hashtags/shilling
they're shooting themselves in the foot with this one

>Pandering to the flavor of the month
>Pandering to memes
>Combining unrelated franchises like neco arc and breaking bad or dumb shit like that just for memes
>Clickbait material
>Anything which requires interaction with blogs, having to provide more views, etc. etc. etc.
>timing your post for maximum viewership
only the lowest tier of people do this but yeah it's very annoying

>Cropped bust shots of generic girl trying to be cute
they can't draw anything else kek

>Pronouns
huge pet peeve i don't need to know your pronouns

>Webcomics with dry witted humor
dime a dozen, all equally annoying

>Clones/copycats
>copying other artist
some people don't have their own style so they have to do this but they might develop themselves later on and change style

>Any "OC"
this is the worst one, i do not care about your OC or OC story

>w.i.p / work in progress posts before the final art piece
they're just double dipping for the dopamine boost very transparently

>Higher resolution version being held at ransom
this one i don't understand why people do, are you really being that stingy??

>mspaint clearly visible so you know how """epic""" they are
hate this with a passion, ok bro you can render really epicly in mspaint good job wow, people want a medal for this

>Posts the same image twice, one is a close up version
pet peeve, just post the image once and if im interested i will look closer

>Celebration piece for reaching follower milestone
parasocial shit

>rkgk
>study
larping to flex on other artists, very transparent

>Anything NSFW or ecchi
>strip games
they want those likes so bad

>Posted sideways for phonefags
don't see this one much anymore i never had an issue with this


>Using a lot of different colors just to flex their color knowledge
it's because of krenz shit they want to be like him so use colors they know are le whacky and crazy to show off their values knowledge

>emojis in username
>(on hiatus) in username
>(comms open) in username
>"pfp by" x artist in bio
>"banner by" x artist in bio
just parasocial artist things, this is probably the things that bug me the most

>posting a doodle in the comments underneath an illustration
le quirky artist replies with le quirky doodle has to let everybody know how """"fun"""" they are

>stealing poses
they can't imagine their own so they will usually look for reference

>>7164578
If you sperg out this much over pronouns in bio that's a (you) problem. Who cares, it's not like they'd know how you refer to them in 3rd person anyway. Dumb frog poster

>>7165100
>>7165102
Damn, that's one hell of a sloppy toppy! I've never seen OP being sucked off this good

that's just your headcanon
I don't think they ever gave a fuck about perspective whenever this painting was made so it's not like the painter was ever worried about the issues you point out
he probably never cared about the proportions in the first place, maybe that's a horse, not a pony

>>7163730
This.
Lots of big accounts are miserable people.
All you need is one joke at their expenses or not making them feel heckin valid, and they will try to delete you from existence like the absolute bugmen they are or their go to cope is
>uuuhm like ur just a heater n jelous cope lol i have follows u suck
They just out themselves as extremely miserable, immature and utterly soulless meatbags if meaningless numbers is their method of evaluation, so they keep projecting what they perceive as low-value as an insult but to also feel superior to others to cope with their absolutely shitty and meaningless existence.

Any thread where people shit on big accounts and it attracts all the whiteknights is proof that retards have absolutely no personality that whoever has clout can do no wrong, and whoever criticizes this insane mentality, is branded and demonized as jealous i.e.
>Arachnophobe, eh? You actually want to fuck spiders! I'm litcherally inside your head!"

I'm pretty sure that all the big accounts are extremely unstable and highly narcissistic individuals who should not be allowed to participate in society or have any sort of influence over anything. Same as politicians.

>>7163720
A thing that got me a while back was seeing Pikat or whatever the fuck his name was draw a bunch of boxes for weeks even though he was at least high /int/ and acting surprised when his suite of cocksuckers praised him for it.
If you are this skilled then drawing boxes for the sake of it is a retarded waste of time and sharing it online comes off as a desperate humblebragger mating call.

Anyhow >>7163721 is right, just get mad and quickly forget about it.

>>7164243
Shh... You'll ruin their fantasy that having fun is the only thing that matters!

>>7164294
No one is too good for boxes. But thin cuboids/planes and spiral staircases are better exercises.

>>7164243
Grass is greener on the other side still. When you have those things, you also take them for granted and don't appreciate them unless you lose them, or at some point in the past struggled with it.
A lot of successful artists come from well off families precisely because they didn't need a mcjob and could afford to neet all day at home drawing to improve.
Hell, if all your other needs and worries are entirely taken care of, then the remaining ones (the quality of your art) become the main focus and a bigger worry.

>>7163669
(cont.)

>>7163667
>but they still jump all over the place when it comes to examples and direct approach to the subject.
Yes: that's because the way people paint is organic. You're expecting something rigid and algorithmic, but that's not how it works. Some people provide very rigid approaches (@drawmixpaint, mark carder), but that's unpractical, and most artists work more organically.

Hence the
> just draw
You'll figure it out as you practice

>>7163669
>This is, unironically, a "just draw" case. You're overthinking it.
This is the feeling I got while trying to figure it all out, it seems the topic is "huge", comprised of many elements that just have to click all together at one point.

>>7163631
cast drawing forces you to learn value fast, and do it trad or it doesnt count

>>7163631
you all cant draw a circle, hell, not even a straight line, and you'll worry about value

ahahahahahaha what the fuck

>>7163568
she was doing fashion photography, of course it was for money.
imo the issue was asian narcissism. the painting being such a copy was lame

>>7163533
aesthetic photo of an Asian woman in aggressive makeup, bare shoulders, from behind, looking back

>>7164271
The thief fears theft.

>>7163815
>Like no, it was never ok to use works without consent, period.
It's always good when it benefits me, otherwise it's bad.
That photo, very original. Absolutely based on nothing. Made absolutely whole-cloth. A work of pure one-in-a-millennium genius.

>>7164428
>aggressive
most likely a noise token, if anything it probably contributed something to her face. you could take it out.

>>7163528
This, fuck you OP I'm a pimp named slick back. Keep jerking your little white dick to my fat anime asses

>>7163527
Yes fAHGOT
FAGGOT
FAG
STUPID
SMELLY
I HAD A BAD DAY FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUPID ASS FUCKING THREAD I HATE YOU YOU STUPID

>>7163528
>>7164030
>”hi slickback im a big fan of your ar-“
>”no, that’s an artist named slickback”

>>7164039
Fap bitch, fap!

>>7163527
>Are porn artists considered sex workers lol?
Only the female artists that have an onlyfans.

>>7163502
I wanna say vector graphics too but there's enough little flaws that make me think this is just good line weight control and erasing, I can't do line weight too well because my tablet is fucked but you get the idea, it might look simple but it actually takes some dexterity to make it look good

>>7163697
>but there's enough little flaws that make me think this is just good line weight control and erasing
Really? I'd also say they're vectors, and what flaws I see only further make me think so (the overly thin and sharp eyebrows, some of the overly sharp line ends, the odd turn on the knees which look like amateur pen tool usage, etc.).
Regardless, you can achieve this look by simply turning off line width variation from a brush, boost the smoothing waaay up, draw your line, and erase into ends that need to be tapered.

>>7163502
idk
make a black version, then rescale the original to fit into it

>>7163697
use 100% stability

>>7164305
That's always an option, but I feel like it takes away from my ability to really control the expressiveness of my lines, personally I like grinding line confidence exercises to get good linework more organically

>>7163468
Don't feed the humblebragger

>>7163468
>Keep drawing your OC to the point people make fanart of it
why the hell would you want that

>>7163458
I want to see it

>>7163599
Why wouldn't you?

>>7163658
because there is a high chance that it'll just be degenerate porn garbage