/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18899006
you’re a stupid faggot who knows nothing, but you’re also definitely moving in the right direction as a beginner

At best, with risky shit, you will land maybe one 10x (along with a handful of, say, -50% investments). So with your savings, the difference between a 0% checking account and the most optimal investment possible....is 10k. Which you can maybe stretch to 6 months.

The moral is that when you're poor, you must focus on earning. Then saving. And only then investing.

Your best bet is unironically college with a useful major. They're desperate for business and if you're not retarded you'll snag a bachelor's for cheap and be able to pay that shit off in two years tops with the increased salary and job stability.

>>18899072
im in community uni right now, I was originally just going to get my general ed associate's degree but now I don't know.

>>18899072
1,100 is my savings, I also have checking account that I'm not going to use, just for the necessities.

>>18899006
get familiar with the basics of robinhood, sign up for coinbase your 50/50 split sounds fine, don't invest all your money at once, basically just buy low sell high and very simple technical indicators like SMA will help you decide on buying/selling, don't day trade

>>18899072
I am fairly intelligent, or I was according to standardized testing. My main plan was once this virus isn't so much of a issue I try to find an electric company that would hire me in an apprenticeship program. After a few years then start investing.

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>>18899189
i may be in the woods, but i am just trying to make my way out of it. got to start from somewhere.
>never change biz
sometimes i lurk here just for the memes

>>18899183
What score(s) did you get on standardized testing?

Trades are relatively secure and one valid path. Do you or any family members have any experience or aptitude in them? Same for non-trade stuff - should be a good guide towards what majors you might find profitable and rewarding.

>>18899124
Knocking out generic prereqs at a community college for a year or two can be a good money saving strat, provided the credits transfer. Otherwise the return on investment for a gen ed AA is...questionable.

>>18899189
Snced? The fuck does that mean?

>>18899006
don't buy into the stock market right now the downside is far greater than the upside and I'm someone who's constantly bullish

>>18899006
Put money into a Roth IRA, you can contribute up to $5500 a year into one and it is tax free. Only thing is you cant withdraw without penalty until you are at retirement age, but it will grow large in the meantime. Personally I would choose Vanguard to invest my money with, they have the lowest fee's generally. Limit all your expenses starting now, cut out all non essential spending. If and when you start receiving income again contribute the max amoint of $5500 a year and NEVER touch it until you are retirement age. Any excess should be invested in the stock market in an Echange Traded Fund (ETF) or Mutual fund which are the same things as the Roth IRA except they arent tax free again I recommend Vanguard, Robinhood is a good app with free trades but look around for an app that you like that has free trades. When this is all over try to work a second job, get a formal eductation in cooking at a trade school or work for a new restaurant when this is all over so you can make more money now and ALOT more money in the future.

ANY OTHER ADVICE IN THIS THREAD IS TRASH, CRYPTO IS TRASH. NOBODY ON THIS BOARD MAKES ANY MONEY THEY ALL ARE RETARDED SHITPOSTERS, DEGENERATE GAMBLERS AND PAJEET SCAMMERS.

>>18899006
You know which coin to buy, if I you are who I think you are. Bliss.

>>18899006
Any trade at all will continue to pay into the next 10-15 years without robot interference, and set you up for generational wealth. Anyone investing in crypto now will own the robots that take all the jobs. Let that sink in.

Learn plumbing, electrical, framing, anything. Just walk up to a jobsite, say you're strong, healthy, and smart enough to learn what they need. They'll start you at a higher rate to learn than any college grad gets, and it only goes up. You only have a few years. When you're 40-50, there will be no more jobs.

>>18899272
I feel embarrassed sharing this and I'm probably going to get some heavy amount of (You)'s

But I remember all the different standard testing I was always in the 90+ percentile for my social studies and English but only 74 for my math. I only a 1200 on my SAT but I barely studied.


My fathers side of the family is all doctors and lawyers, but my dad is a trim carpenter. But he told me to NEVER get into a career that uses your body because it destroyed his. My mothers side I have a uncle who runs a successful shipping business but the rest where farmers.

None of them are into finance except for those who got their gains through their careers then hired brokers to deal with it themselves.

>>18899272
hello reditt

>>18899006
you're not gonna make any meaningfull gains on 1 rack. you can try to jump on the latest PND pajeet shitcoin or pennystock, but it's not really gonna go anywhere. like another anon said, just keep earning. try getting a guard card and working as a security guard. it's one of the better paid unskilled positions in many areas, and one of the only which is growing during the coronavirus.

i went from food service to corporate security and make a comfy 90k salary contracted by a FAANG.

>>18899503
Tell your dad that you only have 5-10 years before carpentry is automated, so your body won't be ruined. But you have a very limited timeframe to make some cash and put it into crypto.

>>18899505
i keep seeing this paneer shitcoin everywhere I'm not sure if its just hired shilling or legit.

>>18899462
you think we are going to have self sufficient robots that will do all of our electrical in a generation? So like androids with human dexterity?

>>18899365
Pretty sure he meant a out-dated term for peasant/woodworker from England

>>18899536
My family lives in a rich resort town, trust me they are going to have business for a long, long time as they build and renovate mansions for the mcrich. I don't think any multimillionaire is going to pay for a robot to 3D print a concrete and plywood box.

>>18899505
If you are not LARPing that last line you truly are a god anon. I can only hope to emulate.

>>18899432
sorry anon this is my first time posting on biz

>>18899425
Wise words, that last line is as I assumed. I didn't buy into crypto when it first started getting shilled hereabout now I'm getting desperate.

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>>18899734

gonna shill, just a bit here but M1 Finance is a really good alternative to Robinhood. Their "pie" system is really nice for automated investing and you can really use it for a "set it and forget it" strategy with etfs. They can also hold on to your Vanguard IRAs too so you can do both with one account.

Sorry, didn't mean to shill. Robinhood is fine too but you might find you prefer M1s user interface and system a bit more. They also offer fractional shares, too.

Pic unrelated

>>18899006
ALL IN SPY PUTS WINTER IS COMING BUFFET SAID SO $250 STRIKE EXP AS SOON AS FUCKING POSSIBLE LETS WATCH THE WORLD BURN, HAND IN HAND BROTHER I GOT ENOUGH COKE FOR THE BOTH OF US, YOU'RE A LINE COOK YOU DO COKE BUY THE PUTS BUY THE PUTS BUY THE FUCKING PUTS!!!

>>18899006
>ctrl + f [REDACTED]
>0 results
We really in silent mode now huh?

>>18899830
Don't apologize, this is just seems like genuine advice which I am grateful for.
By shilling I meant all the shit I keep seeing when i stay to find material to read like
>BUY NOW GET RICH QUICK
>IF YOU DON"T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY NOW YOU WILL BE SORRY"
>OUR BROKERS ARE THE BEST BROKERS

>>18899849
you seem like the chef that is always in a different ponzi scheme.

>>18899006
>So far robinhood looks like a good starting point
I always find it funny that the newfags think the right broker is important. It isn't. Get a world view that you can build trade ideas from. Learn how to hedge & use derivatives. Come up with a trading plan.

Read PMI/NMI
https://www.instituteforsupplymanagement.org/ISMReport/NonMfgROB.cfm?SSO=1
https://www.instituteforsupplymanagement.org/ISMReport/MfgROB.cfm?SSO=1
read consumer sentiment
then reailese the only force that controls the market is the FED.

Best of luck guessing what they're going to do

>>18899871

ah, fair point. yeah that shit is annoying as fuck. There is no legit way to get rich quick (lottery/BTC mining in early days aside). Just gotta grind it out, man. Keep working on yourself and improving, you'll get out of this. You're just in a rut now due to corona. You're not alone though.

>>18899365
>>18899258
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".

>>18899940
Ah yes that was my other guess here is the accompanying meme I thought about when I saw it

>>18899940
Faggot

>>18899850
what does this even mean? that my austimso post ins't copy pasta?
Obviously the jannies of this board are dead because I see scam posts everyday.
>>18899910
I just assumed that ad broker companies could be recipe for scamming

>>18899849
>>18900001
HEY BROTHER YEAH I NEVER WAS BIG ON THE BLOW BUT IM READY TO HEAR YOUR IDEA IF YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME BETTER

>>18899006
It’s pretty good thinking for a beginner so far imo.

>>18900010
once you have a worldview, you'll figure out a broker on the way

Sneeds Feed and Seed?
What does it mean?
Formerly Chuck's?
Fuck if I know what it means.
Personally, I dont get whats so funny but you do you I guess haha

>>18900029
IT'S SIMPLE. EVERYTHING BURNS. NO SURVIVORS. COCAINE EXPERIENCE SUGGESTED, IT WILL BE A WILD RIDE.

>>18899648
not LARPing bro. i had zero job experience and no degree when i got my first mcjob at 24 years old. i had been a NEET for years and cried myself asleep at night because i felt like a loser failure. few years later i got into security at a time in which our site was rapidly expanding. went from the bottom to middle management in a couple years by being flexible and motivated.

>>18899619
Hell yea! There will continue to be a market in the rich-ppl-who-want-hand-work sector, you're right :D

>>18899568
Yes we will have sufficient robots. We only need to produce a few billion general-purpose helperbots. Only one needs to learn the trade to share that knowledge with the rest.

>>18899425
> ... and clean your damn room!
Yes sir mr peterson sir

>>18900001
based projector

Go on Robinhood, buy as much MRO as you can right now. Then don't look at it until Christmas.

You can thank me later.

>>18900114
this make me feel better, Im 19 and felt like a fuckup because this whole year revolved around shitty server girls, alocholism, and overthinking the past. Thank you for the advice anon.

>>18900031
thank you anon!

i am honestly amazed at all the different feedback I have gotten so far thank you all for participating makes eating beans and rice alone in quarantine a bit better. Always nice to take a break from the shitstorm threads I usually lurk in.

>>18900046
It is from the simpsons anon

>>18900063
HAHA GREAT DUDE YOU REMIND ME OF A FORMER COWORKER BUT SERIOUSLYWHAT IS >SPY PUTS WINTER IS COMING BUFFET SAID SO 250 STRIKE EXP MEAN

>>18900045
I already have a worldview. Call my family, maintain connections with friends, be kind and drink water.

>>18900114

that's really cool, anon. Were you like a patrol security guy that worked nights and what not to deter thieves?

I'm just trying to get an image in my head. I know nothing about security. I figured most had to be ex-military or police to be qualified for serious shit.

>>18900132
I main robots would be beneficial in a lot of ways but would you be worried about Terminator happening if we had self sufficient robots?

>>18900001
well lah dee dah

>>18900142
Does Peterson give financial advice? I dont enjoy watching his content because I had grandparents and parents growing up, what I have heard from him sounded exactly like them.

>>18899006
If you blue have 1k$. I would only
Invest it in yourself. And go be a truck driver or some shit

>>18900174
>You can thank me later.
is that because tankers aren't coming in anymore?

>>18900228
>invest it in myself.
How and why?
I mean I bath regularly and eat decent, what am I going to do hire a therapist?
>I would just buy 1000 USD of ketamine

>>18900045
lol now im thinking if this is a joke on if i would trust a jew broker or not

>>18900291

Vanguard isn't gonna jew you, they are respected.

The real jewing is gonna come from the fed and fiat currency devaluation lol.

>>18900273
Go spend the 1k on truck driving school

>>18900173
Sorry bro I was trying to get 199999999 post ID but couldn't think of anything to say

>>18900331

truckers are gonna be a thing of the past in about 10 to 20 years. Automated driving is getting better every day, anon. Culinary school would be better than truck driving school lol. Especially with OP's background.

>>18900225
i always found him overbearing.
not to mention he developed quite the benzo addiction
>>18900331
if i did that i would probably get hooked on meth like all the other truckers

>>18899006
Thank you OP I needed to see this. I too am a new fag investor. I set up my Robinhood account the other day.

>>18900218
Yes, and Yes.

What we know on an evolutionary basis given the paths of hardware and software stacks thus far is that standard hardware running dynamic software wins hard. So the architecture you'll see is a bunch of tiers of service, like Android versions or iPhone versions, that can accept progressively more versatile and dexterous peripherals and AI apps.

Since you've taken the time to create a worthwhile thread, some anons may offer a redpill or two. Welcome to the rabbit hole.

The software layer that mediates secure contracts between autonomous agents, a fancy way of saying a robot asking another robot for a quick hand with something, is called ChainLink. There are a few other layers involved, but they're substitutable so we'll see a healthy ecosystem of options. But Chainlink is the "google" of that ecosystem. Keep a stack at all times in preparation for the singularity.

>>18900397
no problem fellow newfag. Lets hope we all make it.

>>18899503
you have a sister, my friend?

>>18900457
sorry, sniff up another tree free. Im also not getting any inheritance, we all make our way in this world.

>>18899850
No you’re just the last one holding the bags fag

>>18900510
no, not for that reason; i havent any need for inheritance. is that a yes?

>>18900404
hm so invest in chain leak to appease our new overlords? nice

>>18900532
what do you mean by this? What stocks has he held onto for too long?

>>18900535
Are you trying to breed a intelligent child anon?

>>18900570
As a new-world passport/citizenship. Link is a "staking" token. It's used as collateral to back up claims. So without going into extraneous detail, that's the token that will give you "personhood" in the terminator scenario. (If we end up in a gray-area case, that is. Not if we all die, clearly. But who cares about when we're dead?)

>>18900598
i've been looking for a female over the last couple of years, and i haven't been able to come across one who i find really engaging.

>>18900611
>without going into extraneous detail
please go into extraneous detail

>>18900618
my apologies anon i don't have a sister but godspeed to your attempts. Theres lots of smart and engaging females but you won't find them on 4chan bro

>>18900611
so dump my savings into chainlink? it seems volitile

>>18899926
thank you bro its easy to feel alone around these times especially

>>18900174
can anyone confirm this? i thought about buying into oil since its so low but i thought the market won't recover until a vaccine is created.

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>>18900291
Your going to fail miserably. I gave you good advice I even wasted time providing links to your dumbass. Take it seriously you retard mutt.

>>18900755
Anon, I'm reading the first link right now. Please be patient with me.

>>18900755
Im sorry i didn't individually thank you for taking the time, I realize im asking a lot.

>>18899006
babby would be wise to steer clear of investing for a while. see how this whole economy scale shutdown plays out, but domestically and globally. make that 1100 into 2100 dollars and then reconsider.

>>18899006
If you want tonhave a safe investment look into etfs and couch potato investing. It will explain why these are a better and safer option, especially if your new.

>>18899006
Low caps are your only way to make it. Buy UND tonight, before any major announcements. Hold until you have a 5x. Take out 50%. Repeat on other unmooned low caps.

>>18900628
>>18900644
So basically, between the real world and the blockchain, data moves back and forth. Trusting this data has its own difficulties, and so the system of trust used to mediate that exchange (chainlink) is what drives all the processes we as people actually experience with the blockchain, like checking your ID or spending money.

That's the part where everyone needs a couple link to get them through the transition, just in case it's a crazy survival thing.

The reason many anons around here have determined that it is likely to also be a good financial investment has to do with the way the economy is structured. More than half the world's wealth is consolidated in a very small group who run the financial system. If all the money and stocks in the financial system, which bitcoin and cryptocontracts are replacing slowly, is the tip of the iceburg, the derivatives market used to reduce risk in the financial world is, in terms of raw value, much much larger than the whole giant under-the-water part. Only Chainlink's system accommodates the specific needs of that "niche," because it's honestly a very small and specific use-case. But that doesn't diminish the fact that the industry, which Chainlink is being offered a monopoly upon, is worth quadrillions of dollars.

That's what $1000EOY meme is about. It's a joke about how there's just no way to predict just how high that will skyrocket. The only source of contention is that nobody believes something could be so huge.

>>18900717
MRO has one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry so its not dying anytime soon.

Its on an extreme low for its 52 Week H/L.

Just buy it and hold. Its literally waiting to surge on good market news. It jumped over 6 bucks the other day for no reason at all, when things start opening up mid - end of May, expect this stock to soar. I bought at 4$ and will not be selling until 10$.

>>18900755
Damn anon calling me a retarded mutt hit hard, I got a lot more information then I thought I did ok.
But from the consumer sentiments I got that my "world view" is that there is going to be a continued surge in needed medical supplies, and possibly one in oil refinery as the pace picks back up with quarantine being lifted in some US states as they go hand in hand. More oil for more activity and more medical supplies for the new infections that will inevitably occur and scare people into taking more measures.

>>18900972
>>18900717
That being said, as a newbie investor without a lot of earnings to recover losses, you should be diversifying your investments.

Do some MRO, then some DIS if its still at or below 100$, TSN is probably a decent bet at its current price, O provides monthly dividends and just announced it beat its expectations despite the coronavirus shit.

If you want to maximize your earnings potential with minimized risk, you could invest in a small cap index like FSSNX. Its not as low as it could have been, but I see it growing by 25% in 3 months.

UAL could be a decent investment if you are comfortable waiting a bit. Businesses wont open up travel again until July probably, so you would have to hope it can survive till then, but if it does then you could make a cool 300$ return.

>>18901049
300%* not 300$

>>18901049
This guy gives good advice.

If you do anything with stocks/equity tokens, just remember to buy into growing industries. Everyone fucks up, but that'll minimize the chances.

>>18899006
Don’t buy crapto, it’s been 800 days since bitcoin ATH. Stock market usually recovers within two years, with BTC you may lose your money forever.

>>18901108
Over 80% of crypto tokens are literal stocks you gong farming mongaloid.

>>18899910
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>>18901108
Thank you anons for being patient with me, I feel like I have learned a lot in just this thread.

A big shout out to the anon that took the time to provide those links, didn't realize there could be supply reports like that that wernt just shilling n the dime of one company or the other.

That other anon gave me some long term examples that got me thinking.

And this one anon has me intrigued in what block chain really could be.

>>18901185
accidentally added that one, I still think crypto has some merit.

1. Go the safe route and be disappointed that you maybe doubled your money only to pay for a year of college books or some shit.

2. Go the correct route and try to actually make something that will have impact when you're out of uni and have a well paying job.

>>18900962
thanks a lot, brother - that's quite a bit to work with, which is exactly what im looking for. do you have any recommended readings or videos to suggest to us?

>>18901042
kek. dont worry about that guy, pal.

>>18901245
This is a good visual to translate in your mind the current state of an industry, and what companies/government are building for the future state.

Every arrow in the 'future state' column involves a chainlink. (Because it's moving data from one system to the blockchain or back again)

>>1890128
Thank you anon.
Honestly was just confused on what he meant by worldview. Too much time on here makes me think that is just if you trust the jews or not.

Does everyone here really know each other by their way or talking and trip-codes? Fascinating.

>>18901283
>>18901332
mistyped. Honestly getting pretty excited about all this. I feel like if i diversify into these industries that are going to weather corona i will minimize losses.

>>18901245
A visualization of the difference between the currency (layer 1,) asset (layer 2,) and derivatives (layer 3) markets

>>18901332
Your tripcode makes you a fucking glowfag. Ideas float by their own merits here. If we call an anon by name it's a name we gave them because genius cuts through the noise.

>>18901323
>>18901351
thanks brother, i really appreciate the information. do you have any books to recommend?

>>18901344
keep reading, pal. people who say you need to find a job have a point, but more important than anything else, keep up your morale - don't be drawn into demoralisation

>>18901373
sorry anon, just feel like a true baby.

>>18901407
yeah I have a few job opportunities, might start one at the end of the month. Its nothing fantastic but it will pay the bills.

>>18901466
cut down expenses like crazy, fren - consider living with your parents for a while and save like crazy.

>>18900213
it's corporate security for a tech company. we do vehicle patrols along with standing at doors and contractor escorts, mostly. i started off as a break relief guy, i drove around giving breaks to different people on graveyard shift. honestly a lot of fun, i didn't think i would enjoy security. lots of interesting characters, staff ranges from college students to retired old guys. there are often ex-military and ex-police types but they even hire literal retards sometimes. i never said no to overtime which caught the attention of the supervisors. in leadership i did a lot of the back-end computer stuff like building spreadsheets, scheduling software, etc. now i usually run training classes for new supervisors and go to meetings. i was lucky to be at the right place at the right time too, our operation easily doubled or tripled in size while I've been working there, which is why promotions came quickly for me.

>>18901479
im already moving back in with them in a week. feels bad man. I really am regressing because of fucking corona. 19 but feel like I've already wasted so much fucking precious time.

>>18901490
does one have to be sober for one of these job? I live in a legal state for weed but i am by no means a heavy user.

>>18901407
The show "Upload" on Amazon Prime is a pretty accurate picture of the medium-term future, and some of the issues we'll encounter. Gives good insight into the logistical issues that smart people will make bank overcoming.

This is a documentary that should properly redpill you on where the money is today, so you can think about where it's TRYING to flow to tomorrow, and go with it:
https://youtu.be/-YgFDZNXPyg
>protip: Chainlink is based in the Cayman Islands for a reason. Elixxir/Praxxis are the only L2 cryptos that fit the privacy bill for this specific niche. Zcash/Monero fit the bill for L1... Barely.

Pic related illustrates just how far people are willing to go when they grasp for explanations. What most don't understand is, there is one power center in the world, and the rest of politics is just the wind.

>>18901506
our company does 1 drug test when you get hired. it's a cotton swab, so those are easy to pass. after that you won't get tested unless you're obviously high. even then we have to get approval from the site manager and our HR representative to administer a test on someone. I can't speak for any other employers, but i know many use the swab tests because sending piss to a lab is expensive.

>>18901539
Thats great to hear. Always pissed me off when some of my old jobs winos can be hiccuping on the job but as soon as your coworker even told your manager you smoked last weekend you where done.

>>18901517
phwoar

thanks a lot, fren

>>18901491
get some perspective, pal, i'm more than a decade older than you - once you get to my age, you'll really wish you have the problems you had when you were 19.

you're moving into uncharted territory; your negative emotions suggest that there'll be challenges ahead - a chance to take yourself to the next level when you overcome this.

Believe me, all this nonsense about 'regressing' - it'll be nothing to you once you get to my age. it's a gigantic nothingburger, pal - just keep striving and pushing forward.

>>18901491
>19 but feel like I've already wasted so much fucking precious time.
have you ever held hands with a girl, kissed a girl and made love to her?

>>18901491
one thing you've got is your youth - you're only 19. 19, pal. this really isn't a time to be demoralised, especially by absolute nothingburgers like this - take my voice as a voice from the future, fren.

>>18901607
many a time, but where are they now? They all moved on and some seriously hurt me. Honestly take the red pill. Girls come and go. If it is to be you will meet your woman. But if not, who cares. I honestly think I would have been better off if i was a kisses virgin. I wrecked myself socially/acedemically/mentally in high school because of a ex-girlfriend who fucked me up. If I had never met her I would have probably just finished my first year at a REAL uni, state school on a nice scholarship. Instead I spend a year slogging through coursework and school in a uniteresting town with nothing but roasties and the bottle to keep me company.

>>18901652
im really trying my best to stay up and confident. Trust me these days are the best ive felt about myself in months. Ghosts of my [past still haunt me, i really did burn a lot of bridges back home. So going back there is going to be tough.... worst case i might see her again.

>>18901731
dont get drawn into these 'should haves' and 'could haves' - there's no such thing as a perfect way to live life; there are always ways things could have been done better when you take a look at anybody's life. there's a reason why things didn't work out that way, and a place to look for reasons why would be the way you were brought up.

>>18901749
who's 'her'?

>>18901597

The isolation actually helped me I feel better after having like a last spasm of bad thoughts and habits I finally started to enjoy being in my skin for a while. You're right I did have a lot of negative emotions but I guess that's everyone. Just coming home is going to make me physically be in all of the places that remind me of so much dumb shit I did...

>>18901763
Thats true man, but God I really did shoot myself in the foot.

>>18901783
Do you really want to know?

Learn how to appraise and flip things. Go super Jew and become a venture capitalist. You have way more potential of wealth. 401ks lock your money away, why not just learn money skills, learn to appraise (so you can find deals easy) and keep your money close? You don’t need a normal job. Find a niche, they always will be there. The internet changed everything.

>>18901946
buddy, what's the alternative? The alternative would be never trying, right? from my own humble point of view, it sounds like you had an upbringing that led you astray; all that you did is work with the information you had access to - and you took risks. The alternative would have been a life without risks and trying things, right? That'd be one perfect way to live a life without making a single mistake.

>Do you really want to know?
only if you want to tell it. i thought maybe you were referring to your parents (your mother, specifically), which might complicate your staying at home whilst you figure things out and build up your net worth back up again.

>>18901988
I'm trying to learn anon corona seems like the perfect opportunity.

>>18901731
>I honestly think I would have been better off if i was a kisses virgin.
Lol no, it's best that you got that shit out of your system. I'm one year older than you and I've never done any of that because I'm a fucking wreck. I'm trying to get my shit together though. I can't really offer you much advice my friend but if there's one piece of advice that I can give you is that, you're really not going to go far with $1000, on any investment outside of crypto. Just go all in on Chainlink and try to acquire more money in the mean time so you can increase your LINK stack. The other anon already shilled you on it, so consider his posts carefully. Chainlink is an IQ test. Spend more time on /biz/ and you will get what I mean.

>>18902119
>Chainlink is an IQ test. Spend more time on /biz/ and you will get what I mean
can you get into more details, anon?

>>18901783
My parents are great people who loved me and really did try their best... it was all me who got into trouble as I got older.
But you're right, a life without risk and pain is nothing. Thats something I had already kinda come too during quarantine, that I was grateful for everything even the gnarly shit.
Fuck... its stupid I am even posting any of this on an Indonesian basket weaving forum.. on biz of all places.. but she was a ex-girlfriend. She was a year older than me and i remember i had crushed on her for a year before that. Imagine you're 15 and you get this smoking hot girl who's insanely smart, complex and has all these talents. All of this by just your sheer confidence, and she actually goes with it. It is just crazy, and you and you're suddenly catapulted into this section of society you never though you would be apart of. You would think it's perfect right? They always say that everything seems better in retrospect which i guess is true. But i really thought i loved that girl. Like literal burning level love, one that i never could express to her. She was batshit crazy but i was too in hs.. She was in all the theatre plays as the lead singer and i worked stage tech so i literally shined a spotlight on her from the catwalk as she sang and danced... You know that one relationship growing up where it makes perfect sense to you that your going to be together for years and years no matter what? That was her. i hurt her really bad and didn't even realize it, or maybe not and she just wanted a way out... I used to wonder everyday if she manipulated what happened or if it was all my fault..

>>18902243
But how she broke it off was started when I got the chance to go to India spring on a school trip, coast me all my savings and all these donations from my extended family.. which was dear to them it wasn't like they where rich. I got expelled while I was there for drug use. I was 15... 15 and I had to
travel home by myself. I slept in airports on top of my bags, was almost was mugged on numerous occasions.. The New Delhi airport was the worst, just a sea of people who didn't speak my language or had any relatable feelings to me I felt like a true outcast then.. I had these polaroids of us and i remember looking at them thinking at least i got her you know. It took me 7 days but I finally made it home i remember texting her like "I'm finally home ill see you soon." Then and there in my disgusting clothes in my hallway she broke up with me over text. Saying maybe if I got help for my drugs we would "maybe be together again." By the way i smoked hashish I wasn't railing heroine in some dirty alley. It just floored me. The next day was our schools prom and I went on social mediaa and saw these pictures of her with this guy that she us still with. That was also really hard because it turns out they had been talking while I was on the trip. Days later her friends text me saying "I'm a fucking pig." Saying one night we had been together drunk I had forced myself on her.. that i abused her. It followed me for the rest of my school years. I got my ass kicked because of it... made me stop caring about school or anything in general.

That was a long time ago but it is nice to get it out one last time.. even if it is to a stranger on the internet. If you want I can show you the polaroid as proof.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk. you may now spam me with .
>Retard faggot

>>18902364
>>18902243
this is all a mess wow

>>18902243
>>18902364
>>18902379
give me a moment, pal, will reply soon.

>>18902119
Thanks anon, don't worry you can make it. The anon with the links and the earlier anons all advised me to save more which is prudent. But what do you think about cashing all in on a US based oil? With the current administration and the bare fact we have to open up some time it just might work. I feel like gambling tonight.

>>18902364
>>18902243
you can't type all that and then somehow say:
>My parents are great people who loved me and really did try their best
come on, pal. a parent's job is to protect their kids - especially at the age of bloody 15! Their sole job is to be their child's protector - and having a girlfriend at the age of 15?? and one that's, according to you, 'batshit crazy'?? and you smoking anything at the age of 15?? come the hell on, pal.
>Retard faggot
you got to stop being hard on yourself, pal

this is what happens when you don't put the blame where it belongs - you somehow end up blaming your 15-year-old self, as though he's somehow supposed to know what to do with relationships and not to do drugs.

You have bigger fishes to fry than getting into investing; what's to stop you from spending all your savings again?

a mightily great response to an excuse like this:
>My parents are great people who loved me and really did try their best
is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3eHt5hWuQ

I would suggest that you absorb as many of his videos as possible and read his book 'real-time relationships: the logic of love', which you can get for free on his website in pdf format.

>>18902613
maybe you not from the states because you say but teenage years are when you kind of break away from your parents. Relationships in my country start young and im sure they do in the UK. They reason my parents are nice is because they supported me through all of that. They invested all this time, money and energy and all i did was throw it in their faces. Im not blaming the relationship for sure. It was definitely drugs.

>>18902613
maybe it was different a decade ago but even then I'm sure most people had relationships that young and these days its even earlier

Also my parents wernt any of those things that guy states, they never played a finger on me and never swore at me.

whew this thread really got out of hand and now all of a sudden its 5 am lol

>>18902751
>>18902815
just putting forward a different perspective, i guess.
an issue i'd have with that is whether a kid that young has the mental capacity to make pretty mature decisions like that. there are drag queen sessions with kids in america, but that doesn't make it right, of course.
and you say it's great that your parents supported you throughout all of it, and i think that's great, but where were they before you dived into that hellpit that seems to have traumatised you to the degree that it has? what's the need for a girlfriend at that age anyway?? and you blame the drugs, but the question is why you had to take them in the first place - and at the age of 15??

in any case, these are just my thoughts on your history - from some idiot anon on the internet. feel free to disagree or disregard anything that i've said, fren.

>>18902613
fucking kek

i definitely overshared my small violin story of my troubles with girls... even reading that its ridiculous to share here.
definitely
no disrespect but did you grow up in a seaside english hamlet with an abusive father.

i never tried as a teenager never studied and i dranked and smoked and did plenty drugs.

>played on the couch and played nintendo all day

yep did that all the time anon

but still my parents gave me a home, an education and comfort and advice. I am the better man for it
Im excited to see my mom going give her a big hug.

ill wait along for a few minutes then this thread is going in the garbage.

>>18902922
best of luck, anon

>>18902904
no man great stuff for sure thanks for chatting.
i definitely wasn't mature enough for it, that's why it left such an impression, but that was yearsssss ago just was thinking of it because im coming home.
before that they where great too. I was suspense a bunch in middle school too. If anything all my deviance was to escape my perfect life in the background of the world.

>>18902942
best of luck to you too, anon honestly i bet if my parents were harsher on me i wouldn't have been such a little shit, sorry for being harsh

>>18902942
>>18902944
>perfect life in a small town in the background of the world sums it up great

>>18902904
>>18902942
therapy on the internet is fun right anon

SO AFTER SLAVING IN A JOB AS DEGRADING AS KITCHEN WORK, YOUVE MANAGED TO SAVE LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF THE STIMULUS CHECK YOU RECEIVED

AND NOW YOU WANT TO GAMBLE THAT MONEY

BECAUSE YOU """FINALLY WANT THAT MONEY TO WORK FOR YOU"""

LISTEN TO YOURSELF AND STOP BUYING CIGARETTES AND MONSTERS

CUT YOUR SPENDING BY 90%

THAT $1100, ONCE IT ENTERS THE EXCHANGE, IS NOW MONEY THAT YOU CAN'T USE TO LIVE THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN LIVING

>>18902983
I have about the same in my checking, plus my care needed a lot of repair, plus rent, plus living man. Im not retarded I can balance a check book
You would be surprised i don't smoke and am not a fan of energy drinks.

I think im going to follow the first advice and simply save until i have a sizable nest egg.

>>18902959
fren, i still think your childhood is worth exploring if certain childhood trauma or memories still bring you negative emotions, as well as to examine your past relationship with your parents - again, just my own view of things. those negative emotions are trying to tell you something, and i really think they're worth exploring. just from my own perspective, you can't have lived such a troubled past if you had great parents; indeed, poor parents, without much of a physical home, education and physical comfort to provide can be great parents, and parents with such things to offer can be awful parents.

I've just been trying to help, pal - good luck to you and take care. I hope you make it.

>>18899183
>tfw "fairly intelligent" poor line cook attending community college

Shit that narcissists say for $10,000

>>18902978
glad to have helped, if i have.

>>18903006
True man that's a life long journey. Thanks for the advice and the insights. As a kid it definitely had a lot to do with my being a really skinny kid growing up, was an outcast or at least percieved myself as one. A lot of it was also this ridicule of life early on I just enjoyed fucking with it. Seeing how far I could push my luck.
>you can't have lived a troubled past with great parents
you would be supposed how many twisted fucked up people there are that had perfect homes, I think people tend to forget kids arnt their parents, even if they have parts of them inside them.

>>18903005
I was kinda like you when I started and for the first year I was here I was losing everything I was putting in because green candles are addictive. Good luck dude. My best advice is to basically lurk around, get your feet just a little wet by getting verified on whatever exchanges you're interested in, and deposit money onto them and just start seeing how it all works. And then start watching.

You've heard of LINK by now, and you probably get the vibe that it's shilled so much that it can't be for real. It's a pretty big opportunity but I wouldn't dare put my prized $1100 savings into it if I was in your spot. I would watch and watch some more and try to get it cheap. If it does take off without you, at least you tried, but then you might be surprised when 6 months later it plummets again. Everyone thinks they're patient monks, until they try their hand at this stuff, and they really get to know themselves. I was losing most of my money when I started and now I'm doing pretty well. I used to only trade crypto but now I'm into the stocks, options, and precious metals and my phone goes off 24/7 with financial news. But remember the goal is to "reduce noise" so you can make good decisions and not follow the herd. Good luck, the life of a professional gambler comes with stresses of its own

>>18903028
yeah man made me realize that all my shit is my own, can't just blame past relationships for everything, it was me all along but i have the power to change things.

>>18903016
this
OP do not gamble more than you could handle loosing. if you went out to buy a donut with that money in your pocket and a nigger mugged you for it, what would you feel or do with it gone? answer those questions always first before you invest, you could be throwing money away, and it may be monopoly money but that doesn't matter, what matters is you, and how your behavior will be impacted by any loss you incur.

>>18903016
made me laugh anon lol
i don't think im a narcissist, if anything i have terrible self esteem and think my life is meaningless. Is labeling yourself a certain intelligence narcissistic?

>>18903097
Fair point anon, why I think I am sticking to keeping to saving. The savings do matter, I have a few hundred above what I said I just thought that was a good minimum to start investing.

>>18903028
yeah man thank you! always good to have someone to talk to about things.

>>18903155
thanks a lot for sharing your story, pal.

>>18903265
thanks for taking the time to read it
have a good day anon

>>18903306
it was a pleasure, pal. you sound like you had it quite rough; it takes a strong soul to survive what you've been through.

you have great day.

but before i go, i want to say that it's difficult to have an integrated personality when you're ashamed, feel guilty or negative about your past - your history is part of your identity, afterall, and if you live life feeling shame and guilt about a foundational and fundamental part of your identity, you're going to live with a whole lot of conflicts with yourself, and it'll be difficult to gather the full resources of your personality to pursue a goal if you're not close to being in full agreement with yourself. i think this is relevant to your having terrible self-esteem and thinking your life is meaningless.

again, this is just coming from dumb anon on the internet - i don't want to be speaking for you regarding your experience with your own childhood, so feel free to ignore me.

>>18903428
True anon I guess it is just time to accept it and move on, I keep meaning to but i get hung up on other mistakes i didn't even mention. But life is long, it can be great.

I hope.

>>18903519
be honest with yourself, follow logic and the empirical evidence, anon. if you're honest with yourself, and it turns out you don't want to accept it and move on - there's very likely a very good reason for it, and you'll need to listen to yourself. don't underestimate your subconscious life. to use another example, i find it illogical to expect a 15 year old to know what to do with relationships and for all the responsibility of his mistakes to sit with him; isn't a kid that age supposed to have a legal guardian where you are and the responsibilty should sit with them? and according to the empirical evidence, it doesn't sound like a perfect household if you're getting so little love, affection and attention at home that you have to try and get that from a 'batshit crazy girl' and drugs - at the age of 15! again, from what i know, a kid at the age of 15 doesn't have the mental maturity to somehow manage all that at that age.

>>18903519
if you can't move on, maybe you don't trust yourself enough to move on in case you repeat the same mistakes, so it'd seem to me to make complete sense for you to not to move on and resolve whatever issues that your emotions are telling you that you have.

>>18899006
>Twitter or Instagram James altucher he'll donate you
>Keep that $1000 anon

>>18903825
after all of this
/thread

>>18903639
>>18903672
I was more talking about other problems in my life, but this is true. I mean i haven't really though about it for about a year, just came to mind since im going back home. I did talk to my parents about it, and they helped a bit. All in all it was just the first flame of passion I thought was love and how someone you care about hurting you can sting for a while.
It was 4 years ago lol, i got a bit carried away. Your right 15 isn't too mature but at that time i thought i knew it all.. as kids often too. onward to new horizons

>>18903519
also, i just want to point out something that i think would be helpful to you.
>but still my parents gave me a home, an education and comfort and advice
>advice
why did you come onto /biz/ for advice from a bunch of anons? with successful parents, i would think they'd have something decent and useful to say. and just speaking about myself, i've texted you for a couple of hours now - haven't they the time to put forward the kind of thoughtful and detailed replies that i've provided? they're good parents, afterall, and this is the sort of thing that good parents would do, right? have you ever sounded out to your parents about everything that's on your mind and important to you, like the stuff you've been saying in this thread that's been eating you up inside? i mean their child's low self-esteem and finding his life meaningless would be pretty important topics to talk about to your parents, right?

i hope you don't think i'm trying catch you out; i thought these are important questions to ask and to think about. anyway, if you're eager to depart, then best of luck to you, pal; i think i've just about said all that i can think of.

>>18904081
>i think i've just about said all that i can think of
well, maybe not everything, but you don't seem too comfortable with talking about your issues now, so i'm fine with leaving you to think about it, pal.

>>18904081
i live by myself right now so that's the main reason. I do miss chatting with the them about stuff. They always usually said I am so young and I have a lot of time to grow, which i always resisted because I have always been an over thinker.
funny thing was i was going to as the senpai about investment when i see them next week.

>>18899006
Buy BTC and/or a few gold/silver coins

Don't buy stocks or shitcoins or you will end up KYS

>>18904104
i live by myself right now so that's the main reason. I do miss chatting with the them about stuff. They always usually said I am so young and I have a lot of time to grow, which i always resisted because I have always been an over thinker.
funny thing was i was going to as the senpai about investment when i see them next week.

>>18904104
i live by myself right now so that's the main reason. I do miss chatting with the them about stuff. They always usually said I am so young and I have a lot of time to grow, which i always resisted because I have always been an over thinker.
funny thing was i was going to as the family about investment when i see them next week.

>>18899940
its Chucks Fuck and Suck you complete imbecile

>>18902613
based vid

>>18902983
Cigarettes raise test. They have a purpose if used appropriately.