/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16099544
>actually paying money to any of these jewtubers with cameras
yeah just keep paying for the wai slop. buy an L2 subscription while youre at it and maybe gift 500 subs to the nsf stream.

Why are these guys talking about fish cakes

what happened

First for Chris!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1773037756781908283

>>16099584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnh_kWEVRv4
>Inside the JPL Space Simulator with Europa Clipper

one day I want to see a starship launch from a snowy place, like that alaskan spaceport

>>16099591
Launching from there would make no sense because you cant take advantage of Terra's rotation. The only place that would happen is the Martian ice caps because you have to land and takeoff from there if you want to do science on the caps or collect ice and use P2P Starship to transport the ice to the colony.

>>16099594
it could happen for a point to point launch on Earth

>>16099601
never happening

>>16099601
Nope because thats a retarded and unnecessary concept only applicable to extreme environments where there is so little infrastructure that not even trucks work i.e. only in space. You would use a zeppelin from one of those new start ups to visit those places before you constructed an entire pad and launch architecture in the middle of nowhere just to make 1 of 2 trips a year.

>>16099594
...or for anything targetting a polar orbit.

There are Starlinks going in to polar orbits and doubtless external EO customers too, but I don't think there'll be anywhere enough to justify building a spaceport optimised for them. Sorry, anon, your dream will stay a dream; I agree it would be kino as fuck though.

>>16099607
I think you replied to the wrong person.

>another successful RS-25 test as stennis
and yet another day spaceX is BTFO lol!

>>16099626
meanwhile at spacex there have been 2 static fires within 2 days.

>>16099605
>>16099601
The USSF's interest in rocket cargo is literally just an airdropped cargo container but from orbit.

>>16099647
>The quality and trustworthiness of spaceX!!!

https://twitter.com/ehtelescope/status/1772971844271812874

>This is an especially important mission. Some chance it may find signs of life in Europa, a moon of Jupiter!
Zero chance of this. Firstly it's an orbiter, so any detection of life will always be handwaved away as rare natural penomenon. Second it's JPL, who has an incentive not to detect life to keep the gravy train coming. Third, Europa lacks fresh rock exposure to support the nutrients necessary for complex chemical reactions. When did Elon get so dumb?

static brap completed

>>16099652
It's over

>>16099653
what are the applications of this? does it allow FTL? monopole magnets? galaxy-sized MRI machines?

>>16099584
what are the odds of discovering intelligent life, or even a technological civilization in europe?

>>16099710
zero

>>16099710
zero if you don't count any aliens that might have taken refugee there, for some reason.

>>16099648
first cargo and then eventually space marines

the only reason space force doesn't want to do proper point to point is that you can't ask your enemies to build ground infrastructure for you
it's not evidence that the concept is impractical

Why Is Elon looking at Trump like this? Is this indicative of autism?

>>16099653
what diameter does that "structure" have?
>>16099669
milking the blackhole dry, lots of energy

>>16099720
someone told them to pose for a photo

>>16099720
ketamine

>>16099720
This man is more autistic than me

https://weibo.com/6507732051/O6VWngoek

>>16099720
Its time you leave tranny.

>>16099720
Elon is a chud, no surprise here

Glass action lolsuit against SpaceX incoming

>>16099772
about what? you have constant lawsuits against all elon companies about some random ass bullshit
most of them are irrelevant

>>16099772
For fucking what??? And how will this be different from the 20 other suits against them before that they all won?

>>16099772
Good

>>16099594
it's not hard to imagine a scenario where the massively overblown micro-optimization of launching from a more equatorial place is heavily outweighed by other factors.

>>16099594
Poles are good for the Orion fusion pulse rocket. Mind: the first stage isn't reusable.
As to where you'd even visit, at such an angle to the ecliptic, maybe some of the asteroids.

>>16099785
spell out such a scenario because I frankly can't imagine one

>>16099788
>guys seriously this meme drive is totally going to exist in time for mars
>fusion
>orion
nasa troons as usual need to shut the fuck up

>>16099790
the most likely scenario is that pad readiness becomes the bottleneck and they've got starships coming off the line collecting dust because they can't get the cadence they want out of kennedy
they build of the infrastructure to launch out of kodiak purely for redundancy or because the government told them to for some reason
starship is so loud and bright and powerful that it becomes embroiled in legal battles over noise in more populated states
in the long run, it turns out the entire program is cheaper at scale when they store fuel in a colder climate
Alaskan senator wants Alaska to be a globally competitive spaceport and funds SpaceX billions of dollars to build the infrastructure around launching starships from it

>>16099810
what would they launch from alaska? how do you get stuff there?

>>16099810
>>16099817
The actual reason to launch from Kodiak is if you can't use Vandy. If USSF can't or won't support Starship's cadence out of Vandy for polar launches their choices are dogleg launches out of KSC, or Kodiak.

>>16099817
on a boat. The same way starships are going to get anywhere.

>>16099829
the cape is going to have its own starship factory

>>16099833
global logistics for industrial scale equipment is just not a problem SpaceX has to solve, sorry. Other people have been working on it for a long time.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1773081429783564394

>>16099850
Was just gonna post that.

>>16099840
these are the size of buildings, not simply industrial scale equipment

>>16099823
>>16099817
Kodiak is an awful launch site for anything that isn't a polar inclination and doesn't already have infrastructure in California, Florida, Virginia or Texas.

i'm going on a hunger strike until congress doles out billions of dollars for nuclear pulse propulsion development

>>16099857
>Texas
can't do polar launches
>California and Florida
Pad availability constrained.

>>16099863
>Pad availability constrained.
how? they've got 50 damn pads that don't even launch anything, just use those

>>16099860
rip

>>16099850
So the first one failed? Not a good look...

Would the Dominican Republic be a good place for a space port?

>>16099868
cope

>>16099863
Vandenberg is the only launch site dealing with pad availability constraints due to growing pains.

>>16099874
This was the first deorbit burn test for S29.

>>16099850
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1773085211275698302

>>16099875
I bet you like BBC dont you talking about the Dominican Republic

>>16099817
>>16099829
Starship can hop there on its own just fine

>>16099874
the first one was a full 6 engine static fire, this was a one engine static fire to test a in-orbit burn

>>16099888
Watch him return to /pol/posting in the next few minutes.

>>16099893
he is doing it simultaneously, some spacex, tesla etc related stuff is sprinkled in every now and then

>>16099893
elon is proving that /sfg/ had the whole work/life/complaining-about-politics-on-the-internet balance thing right all along

>>16099907
Retard get a hobby

>>16099907
this

>>16099888
why is the goal to get starship to survive reentry instead of getting starship to deploy 400 starlinks even if it means starship gets destroyed? surely they'd want to focus on getting that income flowing?

>>16099911
because the HLS contract is worth more money than 400 extra starlinks and that needs reusable tankers

>>16099911
because a in space burn is of course going to be tried again, but that is a pretty small goal
they need to do that before they can start deploying satellites so they have a way to control and deorbit Starship
after the deorbit burn you have to re-enter naturally and I guess they are confident enough the burn should succeed, so the actual goal is to survive re-entry

>>16099931
elon wasnt talking about in space burn

>>16099934
no, but they are going to do it before re-entry and everything else before re-entry, those are of course expected to succeed so re-entry itself can succeed
some of them have been demonstrated before, some have not (like the in orbit burn)

>>16099594
>Terra
kys

>>16099626
It's an engine design from the late 60s. Why are you still testing it?

>>16099956
>e*rther hates when i dont respect his awfully named and sovlless dirtball
yeah im thinking kys you dumb nigger.

CZ-6A is ready to become a mainstay rocket. Presumably, this means the hypergolics don't have much time left

manually corrected machine translation

>It took two years to efficiently complete five flight test missions. Through iterative optimization, the CZ-6A rocket completed the perfect transformation from development to mass production. Currently, in the assembly plant of Factory 149, six CZ-6A are ready for this year's mission. Li Ying introduced that the CZ-6A has formed a rolling batch production model of "1 power assembly + 1 equipment assembly + 1 integrated comprehensive test + 1 factory preparation". At the same time, under the leadership of the "two generals", Factory 149 has formed the integrated capability of "assembly, test and launch", further optimized the staffing of positions, shortened the final assembly test and launch site test and launch cycles, from the ground to the rocket, and from final assembly to testing to ensure high-density launch of the CZ-6A.

>The effective test and launch cycle of the CZ-6A rocket has been optimized from 35 days during the first flight to 17 days, and will continue to be optimized to 14 days. The entry personnel have also been optimized from more than 150 people at the time of the first flight to more than 90 people, and will continue to follow.

>Starting from this mission, the CZ-6A rocket will enter a state of "fire, fire, fire". Ning Guofu said: "A total of about 8 launches of the CZ-6A rocket have been arranged this year, and it will be in high-density continuous launch mode in the second half of the year." (China Aerospace News)

https://weibo.com/5658451754/O6Y9376y8

To put 8 in perspective, SAST plant 149 is responsible for 2D, 4 series, 6 series and the boosters of 5 series boosters, if I'm not mistaken. That means they last year shipped 23 rockets, of which 20 hypergolic, and 8 CZ-5 boosters, if I counted correctly.

>>16099911
Because Starlink is economically viable even without Starship.

>>16099969
CZ-6C will debut this year too

>>16099969
>words words words
Didnt read fag, cry me a river

Kek shitlinercels really think it will launch this year? If it does they will kill everyone on board

>>16099911
Starship delivering cargo will be a by product of Starship becoming operational. Reentry and recovery are the priority. Falcon 9 is the money maker for now, and Spacex is in no financial hurry to make Starship operational

>>16099984
wrong. falcon is deadweight holding starship back.

>>16099994
Where will they get their funding hmm???

>>16100000
Uberchecked quints, anon BTFO Falcon is still a useful program

>>16099817
Having a depot in polar orbit could be nice for the glowies

>>16099977
If you're not interested in this topic, you can just ignore the post

>>16100000

>>16100007
what would the depot in polar orbit be used for

>>16100010
but how would he get (you)s then?

>>16099892
You cant test a deorbit burn on the ground

>>16100023
Verifying the engine start box for the expected in-flight propellant conditions can readily be done on the ground.

>>16100023
Yes, and a static fire demonstrates that the rocket is working correctly before the deorbit burn is attempted.

>>16100041
and readily failed in orbit such as IFT-3

>>16099969
thank you china poster

>>16100055
Shut up stupid gook

>>16100048
They never attempted it in IFT-3 because of the ship's uncontrolled roll.

>>16099654
Europa has rock in contact with liquid water, you're thinking of ganymede and callisto

>>16100103
proof? didnt think so.

>>16099911
choosing to get a tiny amount of added income now at the cost of delaying a far larger future income fails the marshmallow test

Can Christianity and space exploration get along?

Im catholic but also spaceflights lover, ive been wondering if god would be mad bc of this. From one side I think god would be mad, because even when he gave us the paradise (earth) in a universe full of darkness and coldness we try to go out and look for other planets and different type of life. From the other side I think god would like it becaut4krjpse we achieve to see all the things the creator made for us to enjoy...

>>16100118
Holy fuck the captcha LOL

>>16099853
They did this just up the coast in Corpus Christy in back in '88. They put a superheavy on a boat.

>>16100118
Space exploration doesn’t go against catholic doctrine, if that’s what you’re worried about. And it probably doesn’t go against eastern orthorox tradition either. (any other denomination is a mental illness so there is no need to discuss further)

>>16100126(me)
Oh duh, russia blesses soyuz rockets. And for all intents and purposes: the patriarch of moscow wields supreme power over the patriarch of constantinople.

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1773084561221570999

>>16100016
To refuel things in a polar orbit. It will be a hypergolic depot

>>16099594
>P2P Starship
if you landed special forces troops this way what sort of sonic conditions would the landing area be subject to during your arrival?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/starlink-mobile-plans-hit-snag-as-fcc-dismisses-spacex-spectrum-application/
>Starlink mobile plans hit snag as FCC dismisses SpaceX spectrum application

>>16100181
>But the FCC yesterday also issued two public notices seeking comment on SpaceX petitions to revise the commission's spectrum-sharing rules for the bands. Dish Network and Globalstar oppose the SpaceX requests, and SpaceX will have to prove to the FCC that its plan won't cause harmful interference to other systems.

>>16099790
>that ladder

>>16099810
they should build a launch complex on this island in the Caribbean, finally put it to some good use plus I hear it's for sale, and Joe Biden's brother owned the island next door and it would probably be a good place to put your launch control center

>>16099850
>this is one (1) engine
that's NUTS

>>16100181
>arstech
>not space
I dont trust the writer.


https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2024/03/27/fcc-dismisses-spacexs-request-to-use-globalstar-and-dish-spectrum-in-starlink-gen-2/

Here's the actual article.

>SpaceX: Hey FCC, maybe its time to allow Starlink to use the frequency Dish/others are using, we want to use it too.
>FCC: We dont know, we'll ask for comments and see what the state is

>>16100106
Easy. Europa's oceans are expected to be up to a maximum of 150 km deep, and Europa's surface gravity is around 1.32 m/s^2.
A 150 km deep water ocean in 1.32 m/s^2 gravity will have a maximum pressure at its bottom of 198 MPa. The lowest pressures required to form one of the pressure-induced phases of water ice is over 210 MPa, at -22 celsius. Europa's interior ocean is expected to be around -4 celsius almost from bottom to top, with a stagnant lid of colder but less dense water just below the ice sheet. Ice at -4 won't freeze until pressurized far above 400 MPa. Hence Europa is very unlikely to have a basement layer of exotic ice acting as a barrier between its ocean and its minerals.

what's some good spaceflight music
personally I'm a fan of this cover of Telstar:
https://youtu.be/NJpx0Uc1Las

>>16100239
As in music for watching launches? Or just music themed around space. Significant difference.

>>16099566
cum
>>16100243
music to listen to while flying stick to orbit from your moonbase

>>16100247
Youre out of luck with me then

>>16100239
https://youtu.be/SCH4V_FfEwM

>>16099893
Are you upset that he doesn't agree with your political views, or something? Why bring this up if it doesn't have anything to do with spaceflight? Re-evaluate your life.

>>16099710
Entirely likely if the oceans are as deep as scientists think they are.

>>16099710
Zero since 1945.

>>16099720
>ok Elon, not let's do one of you looking relaxed
>Like this?
>... yeah ok that'll do

>>16099594
>you cant take advantage of Terra's rotation
Oh get over yourself. The rotational boost is not a big deal
>Terra
Fucks sake

>>16100206
Dude which Europe are you talking about?

>>16099710
100/0% chance

No, you can't go into space because God.

>>16100377
god wants the white man to go to space

>>16100380
I hope some Artemis astronaut says "I see no doge up here" and the memecoins all tank.

>>16099875
no, and you know why

>>16099911
they have money and you're a retard
also testing will be much faster when it doesn't require destroying complex one-of-a-kind prototypes, which means they'll get to launching useful payloads more quickly by prioritizing recovery

https://twitter.com/SLIM_JAXA/status/1773162369947996297
SLIM survived the shade

>>16100118
just ask your god, the pope, directly

>>16100387
she can't keep getting away with it

>>16100387
>>16100390
She is gorgeous

>>16100387
Will the real SLIM shady please stand up?

>>16100387
how? so you dont need nuclear to survive? solarchads won again. nukies were the real cvcks all along.

Just learned, from Clear's likes, of this small nip company making a spaceplane with an RDE.
https://pdas.co.jp/concept/
https://twitter.com/PDAS_ogawa

https://twitter.com/farzyness/status/1773053139907748348

>>16100390
SLIM fighto!

>>16100239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVyMzVJjz-g

>>16100416
They only reached 5kN so they're still a ways away but very cool

Spyship is a one trick pony, usefull only to mass-launch the LEO component of literally Skynet.
You won't see it flying to any other planet or moon. You all got scammed into supporting a pentagon program.

>>16100377
The stars are our birthright, and they will be ours

>>16099556
even if we were to terraform Mars how do we solve the lower gravity issue? Everyone just kind of hand waves it away and says we'll adapt. But that seems like such a low effort response to me. Even assuming we could, wouldn't the humans on Mars be landlocked? Traveling back to Earth would be a ~60% increase in gravitational load. Not exactly an easy transition.

whats the current spaceX cope?

>>16100377
God's power ends at the Heaviside Layer

>>16100512
We stop caring.
>traveling back to Earth would be a ~60% increase in gravitational load
It would be a 2.5x increase in gravity

>>16100535
they would just have to take some Emergen-C and power through guise

>>16100389
he's only taking St Peter's place as head of the Church, Seth, he's not "god" as you put it

>>16100118
Didn't Buzz Aldrin get communion on the moon?

>>16100118
isn't that against the Tower of Babel story?

>>16100581
The ISS would seem to be a deboonking of that story.

>>16100118
only schizo protestants (specifically the American denominations, a heretical doomsday cult btw) believe that shit
doomsday shit is a sin btw, they're all going to hell

>>16100535
>We stop caring.
This is the hand waving away I was talking about. Is it even possible to terraform a planet in regards to changing its gravity? I don't know enough about physics to answer this. Any physicist anons want to chime in?

>It would be a 2.5x increase in gravity
isn't that still enough to create health problems?

>>16100603
Why would you change mars's gravity? Its lower gravity is a selling point not a downside.

>>16100603
>Is it even possible to terraform a planet in regards to changing its gravity
no lmao. you're a retard

>>16100603
Technically, yes. You just add mass to it until it's the way you want it.

>>16100603
>>16100625
crash a couple asteroids into it. just needs about two more mars worth of mass. will also heat it up, add water and help keep the atmosphere

>>16100603
>isn't that still enough to create health problems?
Who cares? Why go to Earth anyway. Martians have Mars and space. All spacestations and ships will operate at Mars gravity anyway.

>>16100581
That only applies to Jews. This means that Jews can't go to space, but everyone else can.

>>16100634
>crash a couple asteroids into it. just needs about two more mars worth of mass
that will turn the whole planet into red hot lava. you're incredibly retarded.

>>16100615
brittle bones and reduced muscle mass?

>>16100661
even if we assume they exist on mars they wouldn't be issues.

>>16100118
Literally zero reason why it would be bad. God created this world for us.
>>16100581
I think that was more about attempting to materially reach Heaven and God.
>>16100603
Technically I think that you could take some mass and speed it up in a ring to very high relativistic speeds and it could then have its own gravity up to whatever you wanted. Of course that whole system would also need to exist at the center of the planet.
Ever going to actually happen? Almost certainly not. Theoretically possible while remaining entirely within known physics? I think so. Not entirely sure though, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

>>16100581
>>16100714
also note that in babel the people had disregarded the commandment to fill the earth and had all gathered in one city, which needed to be rectified by confusing tongues and scattering them. the conquest of space is the exact opposite.

>>16100718
So what you're saying is that planetary protectionism and advocating for humans to all stay on Earth are both directly opposing God's will.

>>16100615
all the deformed babies in his head keep screaming SAVE US, ANON, SAVE US!

>>16099817
>how do you get stuff there?
see that big blueish area surrounding it? its called water. You can float a asston of stuff on water. What little is left for the land journey, as the thing would launch near water, is done with railways

these are the number one ways of hauling large quantities of stuff across the planet in shipping today

delta4 i love u

>>16100198
We actually just covered this in a wireless systems course. SpaceX does have a decent case that they can share spectrum with incumbents using techniques that overlap signals using no guard bands, but that cheeky comment from them at the end is a reference to how everyone else would have to adjust to their presence if they're using less capable hardware. Understandably they're probably going to get slapped for even suggesting it since this is already licensed spectrum. If they can prove it will work to the FCC though, it might have significant rulemaking impact elsewhere where people are looking to muscle in on existing spectrum. There's quite a lot of money at stake on the answer.

>>16100578
Yes and Apollo 8 crew read the Genesis on live TV
Then a literal communist forced NASA to stop promoting Christianity
The only reason why O'Hair isn't world famous wholesome chungus reddit approved hero of science is that she was also what we call a "holocaust truther" as well

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1773164160001384807
>Ok guys, the papers are now PUBLIC!

>>16100855
No one is gonna give you a grant you washed up hack

>>16100828
>communist
>she was also what we call a "holocaust truther" as well
What? How did she end up being both?

>>16100295
See >>16099965 you dumb e*rther

>>16100857
Buh buh buh based???

>>16100512
Well definetly allot of exercise and weight training. Not really much else to keep your bones healthy, exercise will just become a REALLY common component of living

>>16099654
>>16100103
Whatever, but I like that Musk acknowledged a scientific probe for once

>>16100879
Next time needs to be the cancelling of Dragonfly and MSR

>>16100879
Well he better, he's launching it. Stole it from SLS too

>>16100812
Kys troon

>>16100883
Ban evading again I see

>>16100887
Havent been banned in months retard people just dont like you here because its not just me

is it really easier/cheaper to bring samples back from mars than discovering life in situ? just put a microscope on it

>>16100418
shouldn't have gone to olive garden

>>16100882
>stole
saved

>>16100895
bribing nasa employees is not a moral good btw

>>16100578
>Didn't Buzz Aldrin get communion on the moon?
He's a Masonic Luciferian

>>16100890
We found life decades ago but the scientific community kvetched at it and now any evidence will be dismissed as not compelling enough and possibly as the result of unknown non organic processes

>>16100634
>crash a couple asteroids into it. just needs about two more mars worth of mass.
sfg_is_retarded.png

>>16100865
she was a nutcase, look up how she died

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMmoui6-TU
7h 40min until delta 4 heavy last launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCoyHHhX3rw

>>16100512
they hated him because he spoke the truth

>>16100512
They finally actually did the experiment for partial gravity in mice. Living in partial gravity does fuck-all to bone and muscle mass.

>>16100927
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

>>16100916
Scientist could discover silicon life raping their mom and still say it's an unexplained mystery but of course handwaved away

>>16100931
> tiny quadruped results equal large biped outcomes

>>16100936
Broadly speaking, they are, more often than not, and with their much shorter lifespans, mouse models are the gold standard for pre-clinical trials.

>>16100890
most definetly NOT cheaper. MSR is just bloat so that some fuckwits can get their paychecks.

>>16100932
>delta 4
who gives a fuck about this outdated old timey fag rocket

>>16100239
I like this guy's stuff, at least I think it's one guy with a drum machine. Six albums of chill instrumental space adventure rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnURvcdOUvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKfFPBaU56Q

>>16100941
this isn't like drug responses, the stresses on mouse spines, pelvis and femurs are going to be radically different to human ones

>>16100916
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-to-search-for-life-on-mars

>>16100931
This seems to be bullshit though because they also found that zero-gravity had no effect on their mice. I think they fucked up.

>>16100932
Goodbye Delta and thank you for your service to our country.

>>16100994
as a lesbian im absolutely in love with delta ii

>>16100999
>when asked if Vulcan internal structure can handle 8 SRBs (about as close as we'll ever get to Delta II), ULA CEO Tory Bruno said "no"
:(

>>16100999
Trips wasted on bait

If ULA was allowed to develop ACES and propellant depots, our timeline would be almost perfect

>>16100512

>>16101040
why cant they just give them anti puke medicine and put them for 1 hour per day on such a thing which generates 24 times the gravity on earth?

>>16101038
Develop what?

>>16101040
>spinhabs at the bottom of a gravity well
worst of both worlds

>>16101040
>gets rippen into space

>>16101040

>>16101075
>we have left the atmosphere
>excellent, deploy wings

>>16101052
>>16101040
new national anthem for the martian/tubefag alliance just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5QtuOv98hY

>>16101088
it also starts to glow from plasma in the upper atmosphere, not when it actually gets out of the launcher

>>16101102
after a woman gets pregnant they get showed into one of these spinning contraptions

>>16101115

You VILL live in ze tube, you VILL eat ze bugs, you VILL drink your pee, and you VILL be happy.

Here is my idea for artificial gravity on Mars - make a habitat that is also a train, and build a large, circular, banked track that goes fast enough that those onboard feel 1g, maybe a little more even. I figure any serious Martian colony will need the ability to mass produce rails and trains anyways for bulk transport at some point; no convenient ocean or rivers to ship stuff around on. And then just have people periodically spend time on the gravity train to keep fit, maybe keep pregnant women on them, young children, and so on.

>>16101220
how do you get air, water, power, personnel etc. on/off this never stopping train?

>>16101220
>no convenient ocean or rivers to ship stuff around on.
yet

>>16101224
Power? Either a third rail or overhead wires, just like electric trains today. Would of course have built in air scrubbers. As for other stuff, well the train does not have to run continuously. It would simply stop periodically to reload supplies and swap personal. Either have the people on board secure everything and have it stop while tilted, or have a switch on the track that leads the train out of the circle to a flat area.

>>16100865
As a Communist she'd have recognized the Soviet propaganda techniques.

what are the phosphorus resources like on Mars? its vital to biospheres

>>16100118
No. Christianity was made by ignorant men who thought the world was flat, and that Earth and humans were the center of the universe. Any grade school education disproves the Christian myth, and it's incompatable with modern science.
The more we learn about the universe, the less it has in common with the universe described in the bible.
>inb4 angry christians respond with out of context quotes from christian scientists, and pics of fat people in hats

>>16101251
To be fair most of even the ancient greek world thought like 500+ years prior to Christianity that the Earth was round, flat Earth came about around the mid 1800s I think, its only a recent thing. Also Im NTA and you could still respect other peoples beliefs while holding your own you know?

>>16101260
i can ignore them, I don't have to respect them
if someone thinks its a good idea to eat literal shit I should respect him? no, fuck off

>>16101224
How ever they did it in snowpiercer.
>>16101260
>you could still respect other peoples beliefs while holding your own you know?
That would be nice if it wasn't for the fundamentalists pushing their beliefs on their impressionable child and everyone else.

Where can I see lists of active lawsuits against companies

>>16101251
>mixing christianity and creationism as one
hark

Shut the fuck up about religion you fucking niggers its not spaceflight

>>16101251
>inb4 angry christians respond with out of context quotes from christian scientists, and pics of fat people in hats
Muslims are even more annoying in this regard.

All of you go to >>>/pol/ about religion.

WHAT DID CLEAR MEAN BY THIS???

>>16101299
>Verification not required.

>>16101299
Signalling herself as a BBC slut. Absoluely bvilt

>>16101303
rude
clear is the queen of /sfg/

>>16101299
It does look like 3 chikuwa lined up.

>>16101282
>Fat man with a hat.jpg
Based

>>16100916
>extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

>>16101307
Wrong.

>>16101250
Probably fine. Planetary composition is mostly sorted by atomic weight and Mars has uranium and xenon.

>>16100512
>>16100878
I asked Claude

>>16101220
>Dustpiercer

>>16101349
>Claude
is Claude better for asking about spaceflight stuff than chatting with GPT?

>>16101363
Free Claude (Sonnet) is significantly better than the free ChatGPT (3.5). Not sure about paid versions.

You can try out Claude without signing up here (click Direct Chat and select Claude Opus): https://chat.lmsys.org/

>Today, we conducted the first test of
@SpaceX
#Starlink internet on an
@airBaltic
Airbus A220-300. We're thrilled to pioneer in Europe by providing high-speed, unlimited, and free inflight connectivity. This test offers valuable insights as we work to enhance our service for passengers across the airBaltic network in Europe and beyond. Stay connected, even in the skies

>>16101370
Why are you 'advertising and/or begging'?

>>16101334
Fuck off Noa

>>16100927
60 minutes until stream start

>>16101393
I wonder how much it will cost for passengers.

wow wtf nip lunar lander is still alive

>>16101409
old news
>>16100387

>>16100818
>get dish sat + starlink sat in the same house
>test it out while watching sat tv and livestream on computer at the same time
>no issue? approve it!

>>16101220
already been posted here
>>16101040

>>16101299
>ごっくん

>>16099911
>The Delta 4 final launch, Atlas is nearly dead, SLS barely launches, shuttle has been dead for a decade, Antares is dead
The American empire is failing

>>16101403
>capitalism is le bad

>>16101443
You forgetting about Vulcan, Falcon and New Glenn?

>>16101443
No, we're just shifting from a Cold War parts bin to an actual civilian space industry. The Shuttle is the only actual loss because of the reduced repair+construction+downmass capacity, and Starship will surpass those some day.

>>16101462
we're slowly recovered from that disastrous program
it wasn't easy but here we are

fuck the skittle, hated that fucking thing what a downgrade from saturn v

>>16101370
an anon asked me a question you schizo

>>16101475
the shuttle orbiter was an upgrade from a cuckpallo capsule

>>16101250
iirc Mars has more than Earth (relative % speaking)

>>16101443
Antares is merely resting. They're replacing the Ukranian/Russian first stage with one developed by Firefly.

>>16101443
150 launch this year
Vulcan may scale up
Starship on edge of breakthrough
BO doing their own thing

Starship edging
Blorigin gooning

>>16101509
goofy ahhh

>>16099556
Radian is alive. They are building prototype hardware (this is the SSTO space plane company that launches from a rail)

https://x.com/radianspace/status/1773379529634902466?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

what would be the spaceflight equivalent of this? i thought maybe css on the tree hugger flag and elon looking down

>>16101510
>troon is a zoomer
every time
>>16101509
die coomer

>>16101517
thunderfoot raving about hyperloop

>>16101519
says the guy posting foxgirls getting DP. thanks for that btw

>>16101516
thats such a smart idea, why has it never been done? an aerospike spaceplane launched on a rail is obviously good

>>16101546
Yeah it’s kinda retarded but if it works it works

>>16101529
never call me a furfag ever again. i am the one that rails the hardest against that turbonigger

Believe it or not there are things the Orange Rocket can do that the other can't.

>>16101559
like sucking up more funds and taking 100x as long to launch?

twilight effect map for west coast homies
Starlink 7-18
Wvery time boomers/zoomers post up UAP vidss

>>16101559
HiGh EnErGy

>>16101547
Peace uh shit

>>16101561
Oooh very nice thank you anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tR9LJhJKCE
>S29 Testing and Flame Trench Construction! Starbase Flyover Update 36

>>16101562
did someone call Vulcan chan?
:3

>>16101559
Serpentory Bruno lies

>>16101569

Remember to buy NASASpaceflight padrat memberships for the opportunity to see NSF team member photos!!!

>>16101574
this!!!
we are SO close to 1 million guys!!!

>>16101559
Like vertical payload integration. Falcon can't manage that trick just yet.

>>16101574
wrong channel retard

>>16101516
All these small startups with their "far fetched" over the moon ideas are so going to be dead when starship gets going.

>>16101579
>nooo you cant mix up my fat boomer e-begging channel with a different e-begging channel!!!

>>16101578
one of the pitfalls of designing your rocket 'thin and tall'
idk what the specific term is called but isn't the Falcon design very close to or at its maximum length-to-width ratio ie. no more modification to the payload can be achieved?
NRO/NASA designs some weird shapes that can't be stacked neatly like Starlinks

Wow it’s over for SpaceX!

>>16101582
high fineness ratio

>>16101573

>>16101581
this is a tank watching thread originally, why are you even here?

>>16101570
Funny how anime pedos have to give their cartoon characters random hair and eye color to tell them apart because they all look the same, and anime "artists" can't even draw in the first place.

total tourist death

>>16101597
youre false flagging i >>16101555 did not post this

>>16101597
You know there are other internet message boards right? You don’t have to get your spaceflight discussion from the anime one.

Clear Live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnL_XX26WZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnL_XX26WZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnL_XX26WZ8

>>16101594

>>16101603
very nice. only clear is allowed. sbarky troons gtfo

>>16100889
>>16100889
there's more than one anime poster
and there's more than one anime hater, according to you
we'll just need to agree to disagree on this one
at least we can all agree that frogposters are worthless

>>16101605
that strip of land that has no concrete upon it will have a comment period soon

>>16101608
AH CERNOTROON DETECTED SEETHE MORE FAGGOT FROG-CLEAR WEBSITE

>>16101611
cirno/frog/clear/animu posters >>> krystal

frogchads rise up

Krystal threads are never this bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCoyHHhX3rw
all the team members seem like they are on the verge of retirement

>>16101613
i can 1000000% percent agree on this.
>>16101616
i fucking hate you hawaiian scum nigger piece of shit. i would take cirno and any other non clear anime posted here over your complete niggardry

>>16101603
Buy a fucking ad

>>16101603
die vtuber shill

this guy was the director during the first delta 4 heavy launch

>>16101619
I should call you Zubrin because you have so much salt you could make his nuclear salt water rocket

friendly reminder to donate to NSF for more high quality pad footage

Don't spam frog poster freind. The Anti anime fag this time around d looks like your standard bait. R*port and ignore. This thread is best when quite.

>>16101627
i dont spam frogs, i rarely use them unless 'stupid frogposter' comes up when i used them once as a reaction image to a very mild thing like thinking pepe

go for launch

GO!

>>16101596
we've always been mad at NSF's e-begging and all other forms of ebegging
at least RGV produces content

>Flight DIrector
ULA is reclining

AND HOLD

Shitposters? Go.

HOLD HOLD

whats redline?

KEEEEEEEK EVEN THE FINAL LAUNCH OF THIS AWFUL ROGGET CANT GO SMOOTHLY

let's go

>>16101611
>>16101613
>>16101615
>>16101631

DELTA IV GO FOR HOLD

exended hold, huh
fug

detanking

>>16101645
Eh, the weather had a 70% chance for being ass today. This isn't exactly a surprise.

GO
FOR
SCRUB

It's owari da

RIP

Weather is 60% favorable tomorrow

Congratulations to NSF on 1 million subs! remember to donate and support for more great views and launch footage!!

No wonder it scrubbed, the weather is as wet as my fleshlight when I fuck it while looking at pictures of Krystal.

OOOHHH JANNNYYYY

>>16101661
do me a favor and shove it down your throat, choke on it and die

Look at Hullo trying to be all official and proper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEr2Baa1v6Y

>>16101661
I used to know a dude who had a fleshlight when we were 12. Why his parents gave him that I do not know.

>>16101664
Your responses to my shitposts are always so funny, it genuinely puts a smile on my face every time

>>16101594
Man they are really space constrained down there. Maybe they should have constructed bigger high bays. I almost think it was a mistake to develop so heavily in Texas while mothballing the Florida factory

>>16101482
>an upgrade
if you conveniently ignore safety, sure

>>16099710
People who say zero are morons. It all depends on the amount of calories that sloshes around under that ice. The moon is vigorously kneaded by its planet's pull distributing unevenly and the volcanic activity could be very consistent and bountiful in crucial chemicals piped up into the water down there... But it's still small, a moon, not even the whole thing... Sooo... Nobody knows! I would say a cuttlefish analog (smol but smert) isn't entirely out of question, but it has to be severely less than what it was for Earth.

>>16101684
the Shuttle has a better safety record than Apollo

>>16101683
could tear down stargate building and highbay and build a megabay, you could probably build one or two megabays on the northern side between Mega Bay 2 and the rocket garden and on top of the rocket garden

>>16101688
you shame the Fuhrerdubs

>>16101688
how does Apollo top the loss of two crewed shuttles?

>>16099652
i was watching the lab stream when that happened lol. crazy i was only 18 then and now im in my 20s. time flies.

>>16101559

>>16101559
>Believe it or not
I don't.
>>16101704

>>16101669
First time im seeing the rover. its huge!

>>16101669
I hate Scott ManLET from Troon, Scotland

Why is Musk /pol/posting so much? His whining on Xitter will do nothing.

>>16101750
he will grow out of it eventually

>>16101750
He's getting old.

>>16101750
who cares

>>16101704
So, Delta IV Heavy outperforms a reused FH but not an expected one, although the difference does shrink the higher energy the trajectory gets. Not really unexpected given that FH weighs twice as much as a Delta IV.

>>16101758
this

>>16101750
>if you're not worshiping castration cult and communism, you're a /pol/poster
LMAO

>>16101629
Ye a perfect use case. Did the same with anime rockets.

>>16101750
It doesn't do him much harm as long as SpaceX is indispensable.

>>16101750
do you complain when leftoid celebs post dumb shit on twitter?

>musk disrupts banking
>musk disrupts cars
>musk disrupts rockets
>musk disrupts sats
>musk disrupts AI
>musk disrupts politics
What can't he do?

>>16101776
win back public opinion

>>16101786
win back the left*
everyone on the center and right likes him

>>16101792
>center
No retard

>>16101792
center hates him and rightoids think he's putting chips in their heads to control them
it's really just a small subset of center-right tech enthusiasts that still begrudgingly accept he is the best at what he does

>>16101776
>disrupting ai
Lol no
>disrupting politics
Lol no
>disrupts banking
Lol no
The rest is fine

>>16101792
>everyone likes him
tolerate at best

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1773438076540391493
>ULA says today's Delta IV Heavy scrub was due to "an issue with the gaseous nitrogen pipeline which provides pneumatic pressure to the launch vehicle systems."
This is the kind of problem you get when your launch complex has only hosted three rockets in the last five years

>>16101799
Hey thats me except roggets since I only care about roggets from that list

>>16101750
you're wrong

>>16101792
If vaccines are too much of an unnatural violation of ones body, I'm sure they are elated about his plans to put more microchips into brains.

>>16101807
Vaccines arent microbots you fucking retard. Are you the one that makes the 20 vaccine threads per day on this board? Everything but /sfg/ is unusable because of that shit

>>16101810
I didn't say that. But from the angle of violating bodily purity, which is where lot of anti-vax stuff stems from, it seems much worse. I won't reply again this is getting way too off-topic.

>>16101799
thats your tranny opinion.

>>16101807
voluntary vs compulsory, commies dont realize this

/pol/ troons gtfo

>>16101799
You post on 4chan; you are more than likely not anywhere near the political center.

>>16101818
u2

>>16101818
commies get the neck here

>>16101814
>violating bodily purity, which is where lot of anti-vax stuff stems from
no, it doesn't."
>you better take this gene therapy that we didn't test for shit, while even normal vaccines take years to test
>but we trust science(tm), so you better take it
>Albanian Pfizer agreement leak
>excess death data
>etc

Even before, people were concerned with stuff like mercury preservants being metabolized, peanut oil medium nurturing violent allergic reaction etc. You WANT these people to be some cultists, but that's you.

>>16101759
Even a fully expendable FH is 3x cheaper than a Delta IV. Like $120M vs $350-400M.

>>16101800
created paypal, made twitter actually free speech which shows stuff that was censored previously and started openai

>>16101776
Stand up to the hebrews.

>>16101832
Only thing he did with twitter was to make it even bigger bot infested shithole

>>16101842
Skill issue

>>16101846
>zoomer
Yep, zoomggers WNGTS

>>16101846
Brownoid detected

>>16101852
Zoomers will go to Mars
Old fucks will die on Earth

>>16101842
nah, the bot problem is massively better than before

>>16101879
Retarded nigger kys I have to block 3 bots every day on my account that try to follow me to blend in and this has been happening for months. Every fucking post has a bot under it and even more have less noticeable ChatGPT ones. Im so sick of you shill pieces of shit pretending the problem doesnt exist when it very clearly fucking does. I report every bot I see and I've only ever gotten back 5 reports from the hundreds I've done.

BRILLIANT PEBBLES

>>16101827
wrong
airlock, both of you

>>16101884
if you ignore the follow bots, its largely bot free. follow bots are the final bot haven, they've curbed largely all other bot activities to the point that I dont see any

>>16101884
bots following you is NOT an issue, you get your reach suppressed if you follow too many people and don't have enough followers

>>16101685
>People who say zero are morons.
what about people who can't tell the difference between a continent and a planet?

>>16101884
just mute notifications of new accounts, i have like 100 bots following me
its irrelevant, it doesn't affect the use of the site
previously you had replies filled with bot posts, now they are mostly hidden beneath "show more" or "low quality" or whatever
I didn't say the bots don't exist, I said the bot problem is improved a lot because you can ignore they exist

>>16101909
Space colonies are for libertarians only. Read Heinlein.

>>16101918
it's true, that's why we need to throw both the anti-communists and the communists out the airlock
if you descend into eurofaggotry you need to die

>>16101913
Its incredible how they've actually suppressed all the comment bots quite quickly too. In all other platforms, bots are infested in comments/content/etc. I'm sure new vectors for bots will popup but they seem to kill those within few weeks

>>16101040

>>16099556
Help me catch up with all the space things after long absence.
>Is starship flying successfully already?
>Just kidding, what kind of excuse did the rocket man came up with now? Is it still regulations and stuff?
>Is it at least moving in the right direction?

>>16100512
That's why rotating stationchads will win.