/sci/ - Science & Math

>>4301569
>astronomy 335
>psychology 94,743
why?
WHY?

I'm CS major at the moment...should I switch to electrical engineering? What's my future gonna be like for each path?

Even though the CS market is booming, I'm not really worried.

People are joining CS for shits and giggles. Almost none of them can code worth shit. Yes I know "its actually about connections" but thats only going to get them so far before they start costing the company money

>>4301574
>Practical applications of astronomy: None
>Positions available in astronomy: University only

>Practical applications of psychology: Immense
>Positions available in psychology: Everywhere

>>4301582
>Practical applications of psychology: Immense
1/10

>>4301574
Well there are a limited number of astronomy jobs/observatories available worldwide.
Psychology, like biology, is a woman thing (because it's fuck easy), fuck knows why they study it.

>>4301576
Depends on your school and the quality of your degree.


Main article: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-science-degrees-stack-up

>>4301580
CS varies a lot depending on the University, most CS majors aren't even doing real CS, I know a CS course where all they do for the first year is to learn java.

>>4301587
> I know a CS course where all they do for the first year is to learn java.
Well the first thing you really should do is learn a language.

If you don't know a language, its hard to see theory in action

>>4301590
though Java might bite in the ass on pointers

my google-fu is failing me. someone has a link to job openings projections for 2008-2018?

...why the fuck is sociology listed under science?
Who's responsible for this blasphemy!

>>4301590
>Well the first thing you really should do is learn a language.
What about linear algebra and other theory you'd need for proper CS courses.
Also: java? I mean...

>>4301593
I believe it's on the US department of labour website.

>>4301603
>What about linear algebra and other theory you'd need for proper CS courses.
Well I mean I assumed they'd be taking math too. I didn't think you meant JUST Java

>Also: java? I mean...
Any language is fine since in the end you're going to want to teach yourself 2 or 3 before leaving college. If you know Java, C#, and C++ you're good to go. Even if it is a shitty language Java and C# are top market holders

>>4301608
Sadly, yes, I did mean just java...
Other than that they had some easy mode classes that's basically a revision of high-school...and humanity electives.

>why do we need 85k new biologists/year?

Probably because medical biology is included also, and there is always demand for medical research.

I'm more concerned about sociology and psychology.

>>4301622
>Probably because medical biology is included also, and there is always demand for medical research.

what the fuck else is there? How many people do they need classifying animals?

>>4301622medical biology
That makes a bit mores sense I guess.
Also a lot more mathfags than I suspected, I wish they separated statistics and math on that chart.

>>4301625
well there are alot of fields like biochemistry that aren't strictly medical

>>4301625

Some fields: Ecology, molecular biology, genetics, botany, bioengineering, (medical) microbiology etc.

Taxonomy is pretty low demand these days, since bioinformatics and genome analysis has become so easy and cheap.

>>4301606

thanks! took me a while

http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_106.htm

5k openings per year.

>>4301625
>what the fuck else is there?
Xeno biology.

>>4301633

astrobiology

>>4301569

That ain't fair, i'm under a psych/biology BSc, but that is only to get into neuroscience programs

If i could start neuroscience in undergrad i would

>>4301639

Neuroscience is cool brosef.

Coolest part of biology too, in my humble opinion.

>>4301642

Yeah for sure, hopefully when i finish up i can get into some decent postgrad.
I do enjoy evolutionary psychology though.

>>4301655

>>4301655
>evolutionary psychology

Everyone tells me that this is a bullshit pseudo-science field...

>color of the sky
everyone tells me the sky is blue...

>>4301854

The core principles behind it aren't bullshit, but most of what comes out of it is bullshit. People tend to play fast and loose with evidence and rely on speculation. Most hypotheses aren't very testable. Basically there's a lot of "it could have happened like this" but not a lot of solid evidence.

>>4301854
There is a fair amount of bs in it however there is some interesting scientific things within it.

What is more concerning is:

Physics: 4842
Philosophy: 7451

>>4301854
basically what he said
>>4301882


Evolutionary psychology (EP) is an approach in the social and natural sciences that examines psychological traits such as memory, perception, and language from a modern evolutionary perspective. It seeks to identify which human psychological traits are evolved adaptations - that is, the functional products of natural selection or sexual selection. Adaptationist thinking about physiological mechanisms, such as the heart, lungs, and immune system, is common in evolutionary biology. Evolutionary psychology applies the same thinking to psychology, arguing that the mind has a modular structure similar to that of the body, with different modular adaptations serving different functions. Evolutionary psychologists argue that much of human behavior is the output of psychological adaptations that evolved to solve recurrent problems in human ancestral environments.[1]

>>4301569
Thanks OP, you ruined my day.

>sociology listed under science
>economics not

I don't get it.

>>4301569
>Business and management

This is why america is so fucked up now. Tons of "business" , but no actual products or content. A society of mostly business men is destined to fail, and fail very very hard.

Only electrical engineering went down over the years.
Why just this one?

>>4301574
We don't need ton of people looking at the fucking sky.

Psychologists are actually helping people, and there's 7 billion of them.

Why do we need physicists when we have engineers? Biologists can at least do some interesting research. Not so physicists.

>>4301938
>girl: so what's your major?
boy: business
>girl: ohh, you mean your a greedy dumbfuck with no actual talent?
boy: exactly

>implying undergraduate matters
>implying biofags aren't into it for medschool and the money
>implying philosophyfags aren't into it for lawschool and the money

People in general aren't into knowledge, they're in it for the money.

>>4301948
I didn't mean that we should have tons of astronomyfags, but the difference is way too big. And psychologists don't help shit.

>>4301955

this. Also from my experience a good 90% of english majors are also in education.

>>4301949
Riiight, because looking at plants is so much more interesting than particle physics.
Also just because engineers built the LHC doesn't mean they have any fucking idea what to do with it.

>>4301973
Sorry sir, but I think you got trolled, hard.

>>4301973
>implying engineers built the LHC

There were "engineering teams" lead directly by physicists. Engineers are not smart enough to figure out how to build a particle accelerator on there own.

The only thing the engineers did was the grunt work.

>>4301973

>Biology
>Looking at plants

laughinggeneticists.jpg

So you physics majors really believe that biology is zoology and botanics? This is like Physics is Mechanics.

>>4301983

>Implying Cern matters whatsoever. This is just mental masturbation. If there was a Cern for Biochemists... hach...

>>4301979
Y..you...you're right.

I feel bad now

>>4301984
When I said "Looking at plants" I meant figuratively looking at plants, i.e. looking at the chemical and biological processes.

The only thing that worries me about this is the Computer Science field. There is a massive deficit of individuals who earn this degree who know how to code or build algorithms. I could be wrong, but it seems like most are down graded to IT jobs, or very practical ones at least. I'm glad my school is doing real CS.

Maybe CS should be split formally into Software Development and [a number of other courses.]

>>4301973

>looking at plants is so much more interesting than particle physics

Well, it's more practical.

>>4301952
More like
>Please put your dick inside me

Really, don't overestimate americans.

>>4302040
CS isn't just about coding and building algorithms. Maybe you are thinking Software Engineering? Theoretical Computer Science involves little to no programming but heavy doses of Mathematics. I've focused in TCS with little focus in programming and still got hired in the tech field.

>>4301991
>>4302067

Why are you even here?

>When I go to /sci/

>>4302101
They're trolling...

>implying lookint at plants isn't interesting

plants can be pretty interesting bro. Not as interesting as cells, but they can still be pretty interesting.

>>4302313
Sure it's definitely interesting, but if you ask to choose between reading an (pop-sci/layman) article on plants versus the latest CERN results I'd rather go with the latter.

Also, premed, pre vet, pre dent ect are almost all bio majors, so every doctor nurse ect with degrees has a bio one.

>>4302313
>implying plants dont have cells ...

If you really think there are no applications of astronomy then you really didn't think very hard did you. ignoring all the spin-off like modern CCD's, digital x-rays and a lot of other modern medical imaging, precision eye diagnostics... ignoring all that there are very direct application which are very important like space weather, protecting satellites and power grids from disruption or destruction. And who do you think looks for asteroids?

>>4302355

Depends honestly. You can't say that something is objectively more interesting than something else.

>>4302370

I meant plants as in the entire organism, not on a cellular level. My mistake.