/sci/ - Science & Math

Beat me to it but great edition, I approve.

>>16085428
I suppose this is a response to something, What is it?

A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
(while Whitey's on the moon)
The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
('cause Whitey's on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
I wonder why he's uppi' me?
('cause Whitey's on the moon?)
I was already payin' 'im fifty a week.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
Junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin' up,
An' as if all that shit wasn't enough
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face an' arm began to swell.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Was all that money I made las' year
(for Whitey on the moon?)
How come there ain't no money here?
(Hm! Whitey's on the moon)
Y'know I jus' 'bout had my fill
(of Whitey on the moon)
I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
Airmail special
(to Whitey on the moon)

BLACK people!?!
in MY national aeronautics and space administration?!?!

>>16085438
Duh nahtzis made NASA so wez gottsta hyre dem black folx

>>16085439
cute

>>16085428

you beat me to staging

>>16085439
>The prettiest sheboon you can show us is a starving african twig thats clearly using a filter
KEEEEEEK

>>16085428
How much balls did it take to launch in this puppy back in 81?

>>16085444
Kys trany wasted trips gfys

>>16085428
Posting in a based thread. ate niggars, luv krystal

>>16085453
DIE YOU FUCKING HAWAIIAN SWARTHOID NIGGER SCUM THE JAPS SHOULDVE FULLY BOMBED OUT YOUR SHITHOLE ISLAND

Why can't NASA accept that Artemis is DOA and pivot to a more reasonable architecture?

Delet thread and make another.

>>16085455
>"Mom, I posted it again!"

Wow this thread is really awful minus the anime rocket yuri

off to a really stellar start this thread

>>16085459
It seemed to generate some good discussion last thread.

What is the correct term:
>lunar transfer orbit
>trans-lunar injection

Thread is cursed.

>>16085475
trans lunar-injection

>>16085475
high earth orbit

>>16085477
Is this someone from /sfg/?

If so good job

>>16085485
SLS engineer

>>16085455
>Why can't NASA accept that Artemis is DOA
Jobs program, and when it fails they'll blame it all on Elon Musk and get new funding for some new farce of a manned program to nowhere. Literally no downside for NASA.

>>16085476
I show you cursed

>>16085493
We need a new president to get rid of NASA

>>16085496
>ultimately NASA will run a competition to decide between solids or liquids
>there are no appropriate engines
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), 2011

>>16085496
cursed? this thing could throw orion in a direct transfer to jupiter

>>16085493
Why cant they make a jobs program that is actually useful and produces something that works? The Interstate Highway System is a government jobs program that actually helps

>>16085509
>produces something that works

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/esdmd/artemis-campaign-development-division/human-landing-system-program/nasa-artemis-mission-progresses-with-spacex-starship-test-flight/
>As a key step toward understanding how super-cooled propellant sloshes within the tanks when the engines shut down, and how that movement affects Starship’s stability while in orbit, engineers will study flight test data to assess the performance of thrusters that control Starship’s orientation in space. They are also interested to learn more about how the fluid’s movement within the tanks can be settled to maximize propellant transfer efficiency and ensure Raptor engines receive needed propellant conditions to support restart in orbit.

Losing roll control really did fuck the latter part of flight 3.

>>16085453
kys

>>16085502
F-1B was and still is a paper engine.

RS-68 were the only realistic option at the time but >hydrolox

>>16084969
nice

>>16085522
why does starship have such a stupid reentry profile when they could enter using gridfins?

>>16085522
You could make a reasonable booster out of a Delta IV CBC if you could put two RS-68As in each and cluster four of them around an SLS core

>>16085477
Nice improvement, I hope she keeps up the good work.

>>16085525
Anon I am sorry to tell you this but you are a retard.

https://youtu.be/EVic941kQ44
A Meeting Of The Minds
Cain | Manley | House

He's so mad haha

>>16085555
Where did he move the goalpost this time

https://www.youtube.com/live/cfkadv8NHlw
good takes all around

>>16085543
was just about to post this

>>16085555
new kino cope video?
don't even remember what predictions he made last time or if he made any

>40 minutes of speculations
>2 hours of schizo rambling
How about you post something actually worth watching?

>>16085488
wasn't she some hr person? or admin position, not engineering
but maybe I misremembered

>>16085516
thought they had forgotten the most important thing because they didn't mention it at the start (it talked about the benefit of all), but they did slip it in at the end

> Under NASA’s Artemis campaign, the agency will land the first woman, first person of color, and its first international partner astronaut on the lunar surface and prepare for human expeditions to Mars. Commercial human landing systems are critical to deep space exploration, along with the Space Launch System rocket, Orion spacecraft, advanced spacesuits and rovers, exploration ground systems, and the Gateway space station.

>>16085588
she is a woman, obviously not an engineer. she does however like to take credit for the accomplishments of men

FAA doesnt see any major issues, still expects 6-9 launch this year from Starship.

>>16085599
why did you just write that she is a woman 3 times?

>>16085525
nobody knows

>>16085450
This mission came closer to disaster than Apollo 13 did

>>16085599
about 10% of the students in engineering schools tend to be women, so those do exist
not sure how many of them actually continue into engineering positions and not something more managerial

>>16085601
>6-9 launches
>license allows up to 5
How?

>>16085604
i hate girls

>>16085613
10 launches per year have already been approved by IFT-3 license modification.

>>16085618
Can ESGhound sue for this?

>>16085601
pretty encouraging coming from the FAA
if the problem is something very simple like a control engineering problem on the booster (model of the dynamics not being accurate enough because super heavy is thicker and bigger compared to F9) and the RCS being iced over or a stuck valve in the Starship, then those might be very quick and easy fixes without major hardware changes and thus short investigation as well

>>16085574
>>16085563
>>16085555
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CEl8HulL9HQ
TLDR
>ift-2 failure, clogged liquid oxygen Inlet
>Space Shuttle/SLS also use autogenous pressurization, SpaceX is eliminating helium from the system to simplify
>lack of shielding around the engines
>raptor's ffsc design causing combustion products (water, CO2) to be piped into LOX tank, forming ice and clogging the filter
>risk of falling debris
>still shedding tiles
>praises Starships ambitions but emphasizes importance of working vehicle over ambitious one

>>16085621
According to >>16085516, its possibly due to Starship not having inertia dampner systems. So that when the engines shutdown, the liquid fuel sloshed in low gravity causing slight shift in angle causing the spin. Starship attempted to correct it while aerobraking, but given the heat was too high for the unprotected side, the ship didnt like that one bit (neither did the starlinks thar were being blasted with plasma

>>16085626
Starship works as well as SLS at this point

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/03/the-us-government-seems-serious-about-developing-a-lunar-economy/

>However, it seems clear that DARPA, which has an annual budget of $4 billion, is seriously interested in lunar commercial activity. The areas of interest cited above are all important precursors for a sustained presence on the Moon. So if US companies can step forward with innovative solutions to these technical problems, federal dollars would likely become available, and we might really take some meaningful steps toward developing the Moon.

the areas were
>Centralized heating and cooling:
>Lunar prospecting.
>Silicon wafer manufacturing
>Microbial biomanufacturing.
>Low-gravity resource extraction.
>A lunar GPS system.

>>16085525
Think about it harder

Ok so Thunderf00t is an ally as of IFT-2. ESGhound is an ally as of Flight 3. Who remains?

https://spacenews.com/satellite-manufacturers-defend-diminished-geo-market/

geo sat builders coping about their business

>The traditional GEO satellite manufacturers did not discuss this specific line of spacecrafts, but one suggested there may be a move back towards larger GEO satellites in the future as new low-cost launch options emerge.
>“There’s a lot of discussion about making things smaller. What happens when heavy launch comes to bear?” asked Johnson. “There could be opportunities to make things more cost effective and larger.”
>“The GEO renaissance will be here before we know it,” he added.

>>16085640
>Thunderf00t is an ally as of IFT-2
I was expecting him to have a meltdown. was he impressed?

>>16085640
Pressure-Fed, Spaceguy5

>>16085626
do you really have a working vehicle really if the cadence is less than once a year?

>>16085640
Common Sneed Superhuman. Pressure Fed Chad

>>16085640
no he isn't lol, he keeps saying the usual disingenious bullshit >>16085569

>>16085644
He streams every starship launch. his stupidest takes were during demo 2 i think, but he was genuinely impressed during ift2 and even the comment section was lauding spacex. bizarro world

>>16085640
They're trying to compartmentalize their elon hate with the utter triumph of spacex. esg retard is still whining about regulations and corruption and how elon gets a pass to do whatever he wants. of course no one else gets the same scrutiny. regulators and their sympathizers can get fucked anyway

>>16085642
GEO has a lot of advantages when you're only worried about one-way communications. I'm sure Viasat and Intelsat could find a business case for a fifty ton equivilant of their current geostationary assets.

>>16085657
he hasn't said that, he is pro-immigration, but anti illegal immigration
there is a pretty big difference

>>16085657
Actually starship prototypes couldnt hold pressure when mexicans were hand welding them. theyve since been replaced by robot welders

>>16085660
hmm, maybe that was the redpill, musk watched some illegal immigrants fuck up one too many times and lost it

>>16085664
kek

>>16085659
Conflating the two is a dishonest trick, they know what they're doing when they play it that way.

> - Starlink has posted for a “lawful intercept engineer” for network compliance at its Redmond, Washington, office. The job entails planning, provisioning, and managing software that is used to meet regulatory requirements for lawful intercept, content filtering and data requests for our Starlink and Direct-To-Cell products. This is Starlink preparing to comply with regulations that’ll require the company to surveil specific users due to government requests.

>>16085659
I don’t believe it, I just thought it was silly. I’m trying to get better at <5 min sketches
it’s funny drawing boomer / libtard takes on space policies and whatnot lol. Might do a rogozin one soon

>>16085669
>they know what they're doing when they play it that way.
no shits sherlock

>>16085674
>>16085657
You should draw for the Washington Post

YAW STABILITY

>>16085453
Furry Edition supremacy

>>16085636
>>Centralized heating and cooling:
good shit
>>Lunar prospecting
send something into a permanently shadowed crater for fucks sake! I want to believe we'd find cool shit, but think we won't
>>silicon wafer manufacturing
sort of a meme, but maybe the lower gravity and fuck high vacuum can help?
>>microbial biomanufacturing
meme. Where are they getting the water and carbon to feed them?
>>Low-gravity resource extraction.
they're really grasping at straws here with trying to extract resources at <100 ppm concentrations.
>>lunar GPS
it'd be nice

>>16085674
stop attention whoring and trying to get designated drawfag position sbarky already took both positions

>>16085649
>and even the comment section was lauding spacex. bizarro world

Most of them had probably never seen a launch, let alone even thought about what 300 launches actually looks like and that it requires spacex be a real company. They tuned in expecting a twitter shitpost in space or something

>>16085702
Sbarky left so the position is currently vacant.

>gets starship the HLS contract
>dies

>>16085701
>Where are they getting the water and carbon to feed them?
Carbon from Venus cloud city and water from Mars

>>16085715
With boeing you are going (to die)

Updated my retiree chart. RIP for Tom Stafford, Apollo 10 is a personal favorite mission:

>Gene Cernan is nervous and curses a blue streak the entire mission (read the transcripts, pearls include "jesus christ they'll kill us yet" as he's working through the checklist), somehow he gets one more mission
>Tom coolly prevents gimbal lock and doesn't get dead while Gene is flipping out
>Ground control literally recommends to John Young to Turn It Off Then Turn It Back On Again to resolve a communication problem. It works

No one else ever flew so close to the Moon without landing. Ten miles up would have been a very interesting vantage point as things are whirring past you. I even found this cool old book in a college library a few years ago all about the mission. It had these big long fold-out lunar maps showing the equatorial path traced by Snoopy and how they had multiple cameras taking close pictures of the surface scouting landing sites, focusing their attention on the front center of the Moon, including the Tranquility site. I wonder where Snoopy's descent stage is.

Tom also had to sit several scrubbed launches during the Gemini era before finally launching successfully (twice). It got so that he was named the "mayor of Pad 19".

>>16085722
iirc the gimbal lock wasn't a big deal. or maybe that was some gemini flight - where they tumbled for a second, wasn't a big deal, but the astro made a big deal out of it in their biography ("I wrestled with the controls for 10 seconds, we were about to all die!")

how is JPL going to cope once SpaceX breaks their monopoly on putting things on Mars?

>>16085730
never goingto happen.

>>16085730
NASA contractor anon here, the coping is already in full-force. Various supervisors of mine have hardcore spacex derangement syndrome. They REALLY don't like spacex.

>>16085734

Well, then why don't they just stop being black lesbians?

>>16085717
that's retarded. Carbonaceous asteroids are a pretty good source of carbon, hydrogen, and pretty much everything else life needs at a fraction of the dV cost. The high water content makes bringing them back easy too.
https://www.nasa.gov/general/apis-asteroid-provided-in-situ-supplies-100mt-of-water-from-a-single-falcon-9/
>>16085730
They are still coping with their Psyche mission fuck up. They'd move on to other projects. Mars isn't the only place to go in the solar system, like Europa. The radiation's simply too harsh for humans, so we have to send robots. Yeah you can take shielding, but that's heavy and a 10 of kilometer long tether to get signal from a probe drilling through the ice is heavy too.

>>16085428
Damn, they be getting all astronautical in here

>>16085730
Eventually they will adapt by building future science missions around cheap and frequent launch opportunities. Swarms of helicopter drones on mars are the future

>>16085756
When SpaceX gets the ball rolling, sending drone swarms to Mars will be so cheap that even hobby youtubers will be doing it.

>>16085453
Based
>>16085454
There's more than one of us you dumb schizo

>>16085764
9 months in a small steel tube and you shit in plastic bags. and piss yourself.

>>16085767
Drone swarms don't piss and shit, what are you talking about?

>>16085766
>>16085454
>>16085453
all me by the way

Leonov stepped outside and had himself a space walk (the first to ever do it, in fact) on this day—59 years ago (1965)

>>16085636
>Centralized heating and cooling
i get it but hvac as a business on the moon sounds disastrous since it's essential to survival. it should be a public utility like water.
>Lunar prospecting.
way too early for this
>Silicon wafer manufacturing
way too early for this
>Microbial biomanufacturing.
way too early for this
>Low-gravity resource extraction.
way too early for this
>A lunar GPS system.
lots of organizations are working on this already, so it appears to have alot of business potential

only 1 of the 6 sounds like a reasonable business market

ESGhound is literally a paid Kinder Morgan shill. his job is to make kinder morgan look environmentalist and he openly shorts Tesla. nothing he posts is an actual opinion of his own

>>16085771
neat

>>16085768
ah thought you meant some transport type thing.
what do with drone on mars? the delay is not so great

>>16085636
>lunar economy
ice mining and solar powered farming to grow massive amounts of grain inside of tunnels. then we fire the grain back to earth using an electromagnetic catapult.

>>16085775
same thing JPL does I suppose... look at rocks?

>>16085642
>“There’s a lot of discussion about making things smaller. What happens when heavy launch comes to bear?”
gigasats soon bros

https://twitter.com/BoeingSpace/status/1769763373606932853
>Starliner fueling is now underway for the Crew Flight Test.
>The propellant loading process will take about two weeks, after which final closeout activities will prep the spacecraft for its trek to the launch site at ulalaunch

Two weeks? Really?

>>16085642
even if it's cope I think they're right that bigger payloads made cheaper with heavier materials will become the norm. it'll just be cheaper with lower cost per kg and larger farings, compared to the current mass autism which requires more time in design, more precise manufacturing, more expensive materials, more sophisticated engineering, etc. serial production of payloads might be a cheaper redundancy over simply making something with tons of sophisticated redundancies too.

>>16085491
Like Krystal likes human men.

>>16085766
yeah theres that hawaiian and Mercrantos which is probably you obsessed with ai porn so much so that you made a whole different twitter account for it. its literally only you two but you didnt ruin ift-2 so i dont mind you as much

fags

>>16085780
I have some experience with spacecraft fueling ops. The fueling itself shouldn't take that long, but transferring hypergolics requires a lot of work to prep and execute safely, especially in what's likely a new-ish setup considering the previous issues they've had.

2 weeks is on the long end of what I'd expect for a spacecraft of its size and the integrator's risk tolerance, but definitely not completely unreasonable. On top of the inconvenience of working in a clean room with scape gear, they'll likely be doing extensive leak testing and personnel training on this op, dragging things out further.

>science and tourism will be the two biggest drivers of the lunar economy for the foreseeable future
its gonna be the ISS economy all over again

>>16085806
Damn imagine how many man hours (on top of money) is being sunk into this capsule. Hundreds of people, thousands and thousands of hours of training. From the manufacturing factories to software, life support, ground pad team, recovery team, astronauts. So much time put into a vehicle that might not even be around a decade from now. At least everyone’s getting paid i guess

>>16085814
that’s going to be the economy of space, period. I was thinking about this the other day. Every reputable voice claims space mining is a meme - and that we really have all the resources we need here on Earth. It’s way too expensive to mine in space with what technology we have right now. So that leaves space with… not much to be wanted or needed. Science for science’s sake, personal vanity. That’s about it; until someone can start processing and manufacturing raw materials for dirt cheap off-world {doubt!}

>>16085780
>woman just standing there watching men work

>>16085817
I'm really clinging to drug manufacture. the first time figures out a lifesaving drug that can only be made in micro gravity, theres gonna be a gold rush. I figure the pharmaceutical industry is big enough and drugs are valuable enough that it may be worth building several large space stations for R&D. a few other things *may* be valuable enough to be worth making in space, especially if launch costs drop several fold, but medicines are the most promising first step.

>>16085817
ESG autism could make space mining eventually becom viable, if the winds shift to seeing mining as the main source of pollution in a hypothetical post peak oil consumption world. in the same way that extreme regulation is a big part of why fission is not economically viable in many parts of the world. there are also non (economically) rational reasons for colonial projects on other planetary bodies. there's also the military side, that will only become a bigger market in spess. overall though I do agree by I choose to delude myself into thinking we will be banging chicks in mars gravity and on spinhabs before I die

>>16085814
The american colonies didnt have any real exports that had to be done there. The only reason people went there anyways was to escape persecution, and Britain used it more as a penal colony and wanted to sell shit to them since they couldnt make it themselves. Basically same thing will happen with Mars/Moon once Starship offers civilian tickets. People will stop at nothing to get off this god forsaken planet even if it means going to a barren hellhole with none of the comforts of modern life. They will congregate into colonies, create an offplanet economy that requires imports and attract business that way as you could get a huge markup on selling your goods to them, or just cornerning a market. Once thats done, it will become a jumping off point to the real money makers like Titan as a fuel depot, the asteroid belt for refining metal and not needing to lift off of Earth, etc.

>>16085428
>>16085444
Is so fucking over.

>>16085453
this isnt me. anime fag is false flagging as me

>>16085450
>>16085607
no shit, they have no fucking windows

how many people do you need for an economy anyway? I know mcmurdo has a tiny economy even in the winter when they have a little over a hundred ppl

>>16085839
abou tree fiddy

>>16085839
approximately three hundred and fifty people

>>16085618
No, the FAA parts of the EA update still talk about 5 launches. It hints that a reevaluation for 10 may be in the works already though.

>>16085847
Good literature always teases something good to come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJ_M3hzvrA
Starlink again in T-27:00

>>16085849
F9 launches and landings have gotten boring and that's a good thing

one day starship launches will be so boring people will get annoyed at you for posting about them

ift3 plasma was super kino.
what do we get ift4?

>>16085790
>Furry porn AI artist made Starship blow up
tell me more

>>16085869
The hawaiian ruined ift-2 not the aidag. you can check archive sites around that time and see a bunch of fucked threads that were obviously made by one person and one had Kikestal plastered as the OP so he gave himself away. Not spoonfeeding more than that because google exists and the date of ift-2 is known weve been through this before.

Wish you could be here

>>16085817
i think you're missing one thing. whoever controls space is going to be able to control a good chunk of the earth's communication/navigation/surveillance infrastructure. at some point those things are going to become so strategically vital that they're going to necessitate a manned military presence at certain strategic points in space (geostationary orbit and the lunar surface seem especially likely). up until now that's been too expensive to be practical, but if starship's launching hundreds of times a year then it's a whole new ballgame.

>>16085883
Shut the fuck up goy stop giving them ideas

>>16085657
even if this were accurate I would still agree with the sentiment it's trying to lampoon
spacex has fuck tons of money
they could hire welders at any wage
they are not dependent on illegal workers

>>16085875

>>16085892
Knew it was Merc

>>16085883
ive been thinking that having manned stations is actually a decent de-escalation tool because it raises the potential escalatory cost of a strike on space infrastructure. sort of like how cyberattacks are attractive because they don't necessarily create space for a kinetic escalation, strikes on space infrastructure might be seen similarly if there's no risk of loss of life. but if you have to kill some soldiers or, better, civilians and possibly civilians of random uninvolved countries, it could be seen to disincentivize that sort of attack. China knocks out satellites in a deniable attack vs China knocks out satellites, kills three US soldiers and some french and Russian astronauts. which justifies a stronger response?

>>16085772
lmao
your analysis is completely backwards
you don't need multiple lunar GPS providers (SpaceX will probably do it anyway) and everything else needs as much research and as many providers as possible

>>16085839
two: you need at least one woman and one man and something to trade for pussy

>>16085636
I think the real money move is to be the one to set up infrastructure, which a lot of these are. Elon is setting himself up to be space Vanderbilt, but think like the general store/saloon/brothel owner in the gold rush boom town. Meme space mining and manufacturing startups will come and go, but if you're in a position to sell them water, air, power, data, ect, you'd be sitting pretty. Plus, there's a build it and they will come factor. If said meme startups don't have to worry about where they can get that stuff, it lowers their viability threshold and maybe one of them might stick

>>16085439
>shlop shlop shlop shlop

>>16085906
Do you think her pooper is jet black

Imagine a pic of all of these rockets on their pads at the same time

>>16085817
>we really have all the resources we need here on Earth
Capitalism doesn't work that way.
It's never enough, and that's a good thing.

Less bitching, more launches. Pictured: Starlink group 7-16 which launched a few minutes ago

>>16085636
A lunar economy using SLS is like trying to built a bridge using a a donut. Is it possible? Technically, yes. Is it retarded? Unquestionably.

Something that costs billions to launch, can only launch once a year, and needs two launches to be able to put any kilogram onto the surface of the moon, makes the entire thing an exercise in parody.

>>16085428

>>16085917
>Based very loosely on a story that isn't like the truth but that we very much wish was

>>16085913
stunning twilight launch!

https://twitter.com/maxhaot/status/1769918709957861593/video/1

>>16085543
>>16085572
>What went wrong?

>>16085827
>Titan as a fuel depot
Anon I want to believe, but until we have Expanse style meme drives and a solar system wide economy, Titan is in no way a viable fuel source

>>16085854
>who cares about another LEO Starship starting out more starlink V5, wake me up when there's another mars landing

legit question. wouldn't we have AGI robots as caretakers for literally everything? what are you exactly expecting to do? say in colonizing some solar system body? apart from being taken there and like chilling and pretending you work on something?

>>16085928
AI can barely do math

>>16085928
>AGI robots
These don't exist, rocketships do.

>>16085930
yeah but you are not going to Titan in the next 20 years. don't think in current_year terms with AI/AGI.

>>16085926
Once we have meme drives and Titan becomes easily accessible it'll be more valuable as a source of plastics and polymers.

>>16085931
ye for sure but ... yet. AGI will grow faster than a human will, in terms of aptitude. we are not waiting 25 years for it to be full power. that shit will happen way faster. and building rockets and space bases isn't as science fiction as you'd think/been used to so far.
once they start working on shit like that, what exactly will you do? better than them? AGI supervisor? even that can be done better by AGI, apart from the whole human in the loop thing

>>16085894
>Gaurdian, for you next misson, you will spend 6 months on orbit as missle bai-I mean as a forward observer.
What exactly would these manned orbital military outposts do?I could see boots on the moon being a thing as a means to claim territory, but in orbit doesn't make any sense.

>>16085937
This is pure sci-fi. AI (so-called) does not work that way and will not work that way.

The plume seen round the West coast

When did people start saying "on orbit" instead of "in orbit"?
Was it the same time "compute" started being used as a noun?

>>16085902
I should add that being able to provide basic life support on the moon means that a national space agency and can just pay to rent a room on your mun base instead of having to develop their own program. Same with mining and manufacturing guys. Pay Elon for a ride and pay you rent on the moon. Similar idea as orbital reef, but in a much more interesting and useful locale. There is a ton of money to be made on providing the means to govs and corps to go right to moon exploration and not have to say, design a launch vehicle, lander, power, comms, thermal regulation system, ect from the ground up.

>>16085817
>and that we really have all the resources we need here on Earth.
Eh, in the short and medium term, sure. But we're already starting to need to dig deeper for a lot of shit that was once easily accessible.

>>16085941
what do you mean? think AGI cannot control robots through radio waves?
do you think that right now there is no way an AI algo could control production facilities robots? like assembly line ones?
you have no idea what you will be useful for once AGI controls advanced robots, do you? you're fucking clueless and worthless by comparison.

>>16085943
idk but I hate it

>on orbit refilling
CRINGE

>in orbit refueling
>orbital refueling
KINO

>>16085932
Eh... the problem with AI is that it needs practically a whole server rack just to run a single instance of itself, for current top models. They're incredibly power-hungry, and even so the companies that make them have ingrained their ethics shit so deep that they will confidently tell falsehoods all day, even if you use API access and a prefill to prevent filtered replies. Unless a new company shows up who starts with a clean sheet no-censorship model, AI will eternally be retarded.

>>16085948
AGI is not going to be derived from LLMs. You're so used to the idea of an AGI from stories that you can almost taste it, but it's as far away as it's ever been.

>>16085949
It's one of those deliberate terminology changes to check who is an NPC trend follower and who isn't

>>16085951
a human running neural networks draws about 10W for conscious part. also see Mythic AI analog chips which you dump the weigths on and it runs very efficiently. for random shit like controlling the quality of potato chips on assembly line. detects the bad ones and flicks them off the line. that's an AI algo running on super efficient harware (1-2W) and doing useful shit.
you also need to make the difference between training AI and running AI. once you have the model, which does whatever the fuck, it's clearly cheaper to run than you are.
don't think of your Ex Machina shit, not talking about that.

>>16085952
bro stop it with this bullshit because it's not useful for anything, you're acting like an edgy frustrated prick.

>>16085928
So I can fuck my AGI Waifubot in zero G of course

>>16085957
Being sceptical that LLMs will ever lead to AGI is now considered edgy?
Do you know how an LLM works?

>>16085959
>Do you know how an LLM works?
this is what I'm talking about, this anal fingering you pricks keep performing on yourselves. the most annoying little shits in tech

>>16085956
But if you want AI to run a whole colonization effort as this whole thing originated, what you basically need is something equivalent to a council of geniuses. And I'm saying we aren't GOING to reach AI that's that smart with the current corporate DEI-focused structures. They are cultists rather than developers. No AGI until something clean is built from the ground up.

>>16085936
Is just as likely that our advances in physics, chemistry, and material science that would make such a drive possible might also make those compounds obsolete. The future will likely be stranger to us than we give it credit for, since we can't help but to think in terms of the world we know.

>>16085962
>since we can't help but to think in terms of the world we know.
very much this.

>>16085962
Even in the future shit is still going to be made out of matter, and we're really good at using hydrocarbon chains in almost everything we make. Until we get to the point where we're building shit out of folded space nonsense we're going to have microplastics floating around.

>>16085949
I thought it was military speak thing that people in the industry with that background adopted.
>soldier on duty
>ship on station
>plane on patrol
>astronaut on orbit

>>16085961
maybe for public use, but behind closed doors don't think there's anything stopping development from now on. it's all gas no brakes.
I just saw Lex's interview with Sam Altman and dude looks like he has a gag order on saying literally anything about Q*. he seems to get scared whenever any question about it is asked.

>>16085960
That's a "no" then. You just use AGI the same way Yud does, as a secular second coming

>>16085827
Well, yes and no. The American colonies had plenty of things which *could* be exported from there, and quite profitably. None of it had to be done there, but the land was fertile, the woodlands thick, the mountains rich, and the seas bountiful. It's pretty good, all things considered. Also, you required relatively little infrastructure to be alive. That's kind of the big difference between Earth and anywhere but Earth: the cost of living isn't going to be cheaper, nor will life be easier. You can't just take desperate poor fucks from Earth and toss them onto the moon in the same way you could take an Englishman (or Scotsman, or Irishman, or whatever) and set them up with a homestead in the colonies.

If you'll forgive my blind speculation, look to Antarctica now to see what the future of the moon will be in our lifetimes. Lots of scientists, and support staff aiding those scientists.

>>16085968
>he seems to get scared whenever any question about it is asked.
Oh that's just Sam playing it up for more VC money. As for Ilya, he's just an easily manipulated basilisk cultist. It's obvious when you watch him speak.

>>16085970
you and your little victories are petty af. grow the fuck up faggot

>>16085968
Behind closed doors they're scouring the internet for wrong-think and trying to figure out how to make the AI never say mean words. I don't think you quite grasp how mentally ill the current offerings are.

>>16085971
>the cost of living isn't going to be cheaper
No taxes in space
>nor will life be easier
No cultural enrichment

>>16085972
not saying you are a glowie but that's what a glowie would say.
>nothing to see here, nothing happening, move along peeps

>>16085977
Ok, if I'm wrong and the AGI kills us all this year, I owe you a coke

>>16085975
tbf the AI girlfriend thing can be pretty dangerous. whoever controls your girlfriend controls you. agencies used to work a lot for that level of control kek. it kind of seems like a national security type deal, not even joking. apart from the whole AI waifu meme

>>16085976
>No taxes in space
There will be taxes in space. Taxes will be *higher* in space. Air will be a public utility. Building codes will be more robust. Everywhere humans can exist will be built and owned and controlled. Space will not be an inherently freer place than the Earth.
>No cultural enrichment
Depends on who's running the colony.

>>16085979
not this year but we don't know how shit will look in 10 years from now. clearly AGI is not killing anyone in the next years at least, apart from convincing some idiot to commit sudoku

>>16085450
>John, did you remember to sign the life insurance papers?

https://youtu.be/Okw3R9pspPc?t=1167

>>16085428
Grim

>>16085607
there were a lot of those on shuttle. return to flight after challenger was almost lost. imagine THAT

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1769929075294929270

Wew, I think half of California saw this launch

>>16085987

>>16085987
Not enough

>>16085949
You run on an orbit like you run on a path. Do you run in a path? No, that sounds stupid just like in orbit refueling. Orbital is fine

>>16085993
"the fuck is this" some people freak out over it

>>16085701
>Where are they getting the water and carbon to feed them?
Shit and piss

>>16085971
I'd be happy to see a lunar presence on par with Antarcticas before I die, which will hopefully be another 40 or 50 years. But there are some key differences between the moon and Antarctica which might make the colonization process more rapid:
1. Antarctica is terrestrial. Any one with half a navy can sail over and claim a piece. However, there is a frozen detente between nations right now over claims/sovereignty, access, and use of the continent that most aren't willing to upset due to the perceived risk/reward and the fact that
2. ANTARCTICA IS COVERED IN ICE. Just about the only thing immediately useful about the continent is the (relatively) untouched fisheres around it, which are already being exploited. The moon on the other hand is ripe for exploitation, provided you can set up the infrastructure to do so
3. Contrary to point 1, they only to nations who can realistically access/ deny access to the moon are the US and China, two diametrically opposed superpowers with a vested interest in interference of the others plans for world (and space) dominance. Where one goes, there other must follow, and try to out do. India might tag along too.

>>16086001
Do you think they harvest semen as well

oh boy. today's F9 was one of the atmospheric illumination effect thingy ones. Lots of people going bananas about aliens again

>>16085984
10 years from now will likely be the trenches of AI economic disruption. Every call center, customer support, tech support, scam call center, entry level tech or engineering job, insurance agent, tou name it, will have been gobbled up. All that will be left will be skilled manual labor and high tier non-routine cognitive (with AI tools of course) roles left. Also, by then most people will at least be used to, if not comfortable, having their table served by a robot, if they can afford to eat out that is.

>>16085994
>>16085987
JPL stands for Jack Parsons Laboratory

>>16086003
Might as well. "Microbial biomanufacturing" probably just means dumping crap in vats of algae to get oxygen and useful organic compounds.

That's pretty wild

>>16086014
or, sex bots

>>16086020
>silverberg

>>16086021
oh fuck off dude
>>>/pol/

>>16086016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0RE230PlX4

>>16085987
JPL is 100% dead weight

>>16085993
is the flight path different or are the weather conditions causing more vapor than usual?

>>16086031
probably time of day more than anything

>>16085993
i swear the guy at :43 says "it's a helicopter"

>>16085818
have to meet diversity quotas

>>16085634
>Starship works as well as SLS at this point

>half orbit where every fucking "innovation" failed versus a successful lunar orbit and capsule return on the first launch
I know you Muskrats are still high off the "almost worked this time" fumes but come fucking on, bitch.

>In 2023 NASA said to have delayed Starship HLS's critical design review until after SpaceX performs a mission demonstrating in-orbit transfer of cryogenic propellants.
maybe we'll get some concrete info on the lander soon then

>>16086044
I found the uplink more impressive with the whole plasma show desu. but Starship itself was pretty dope.

>>16086044
>coping tranny
lol

>>16085938
operate satellites, possibly interpret SIGINT ELINIT? it might be advantageous to be able to comand satellites from orbit but tbqh I'm struggling to justify it. you'd still need to send orders up to the station and debriefs down, so would it actually prevent signal interception or disruption? light lag shouldn't actually be a real issue compared to the lag of human operated vs autonomous systems. out on the moon and beyond the lag actually matters at least. perhaps just as sort of a way to build experience for how to actually operate in space for the actually necessary stations later on? all I know is that the space force really wants a manned station, possibly just because it justifies their budget and because the personnel think it's cool lol

>>16085428
oh nyo

>>16086061
>4h ago
Which one of you dug shit up on him and got this out there. Cant be a coincidence that it happened like an hour after this /sfg/ was posted with him in the op.

>>16086061
is this really the same guy? they don't look similar to me

>>16086070
Is the nigger hairdo really the only way you can tell the difference between them? Its pretty ovvious, the goatee is the same, the forehead has the same hairline, the same bushy eyebrows and thin mustache. Its pretty obvious its him.

>>16086071
I'm just generally face blind but his face looks much thinner in the second image

>>16085580
breeding gab

>>16086071
even after reading your comment I can't really say its him, maybe the second angle is bad

>>16085987
>>16085995
>>16086027

Sad to see but ultimately they made their bed and can sleep in it. MSR is such a fundamentally stupid proposition, and belongs amongst other stupid ideas like SLS, Artemis, and the NRHO.

Also, given the imminent nature of large, cheap, mass to orbit they should already be pivoting to the new meta to maximize science for a given budget: COTS or near-COTS robotic exploration.

I was curious about the cost structure for the most recent big JPL mission:
The Mars 2020 mission consisted of launching a 3649kg payload to Mars.
The total cost of $2.8bn for the Mars 2020 mission went to:
>$2.2bn Perseverance,
>$296m for mission operations,
>$243m for launch,
>$80m for Ingenuity

I was also curious about the $296m for a mission operations team, and I estimated it to around 785 full time employees for the 2.5 year operation duration. That seems like an outrageously huge team. They must have almost no automation (because the way they're paid and thus structured they would avoid any use of automation possible, and thus JPL is basically a make-work factory)

>>16085987
Brothers, grim

>>16086073
different camera lens obv

>>16085987
>>16086061
>>16085428
I did my Masters at an African university. The university is just over a century old and the very worst student in the history of our department got a NASA internship. He failed every engineering subject he ever took, with the lowest average scores ever. He still graduated because he called all the professors racist (mind you, we mostly graduate black bantu students plus some Nigerian expats) and then through a combination of suing or using his political connections to the local mayor: the combined pressure on the department eventually allowed him to graduate. More than once his exams had to be sent all over Africa for remarking (if there is even a single drop of non-Bantu blood in the Prof he demanded this), the results were always failing him again, but sometimes it comes back 18% instead of say 16% and then he uses this as evidence of discrimination.

He then had the gal to ask the Profs he accused of racism for letters of recommendation for his NASA internship. The Profs then said they cannot recommend or not recommend him and explained the whole situation. We heard was immediately hired and NASA sent a snotty letter to the Profs.

I just want you Americans to know you are getting the absolute worst Africans imaginable, there are a few hundred thousand Africans including Bantus who would be qualified, but your companies and institutions are not interested in those, they are purely hiring political race baiters from the oligarch class on purpose. I thought the West was less corrupt than this, it's all very depressing.

>>16086153
>I thought the West was less corrupt than this, it's all very depressing.
So did we. The inertia needed to actually do something about it is still building.

>>16086153
oh fuck off dude
>>>/pol/

>>16086183
stop crying, faggot

>>16086044
I think you might be confusing SLS with Orion+ICPS. It's ok, you will learn more if you stick around, just refrain from actually posting

>>16086153
america deserves this albeit

>>16085475
Lunar transfer orbit is the trajectory.
Trans lunar injection is the burn to achieve lunar transfer orbit.
Anyone who uses TLI to refer to the trajectory to go from Earth to the Moon is a liar.

>>16086014
I dump all my cum tissues into my compost bin to close my home life support loop. Where's my JPL funding?

>>16085522
It's not too late for them to swap the solids out for Raptor powered boosters, or hell, a couple of new glenn boosters

>>16085525
they cannot enter using grid fins.

>>16085631
>inertia dampener systems
lol fuck off, the reason the thing was rolling was due to poor reaction control thruster performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEl8HulL9HQ

did the FTS system activate for the superheavy on IFT-2? I was under the impression the engines not activating meant it went off course and thus FTS activated, but wikipedia and the pressure fed astronauts video are saying that an engine exploded and there was a domino effect or something and that SpaceX have been removing shielding (they in fact added shielding after IFT-1)

the exact wording from SpaceX doesn't say one engine exploded which resulted in the whole vehicle exploding, just that an engine failed
https://www.spacex.com/updates/
>The most likely root cause for the booster RUD was determined to be filter blockage where liquid oxygen is supplied to the engines, leading to a loss of inlet pressure in engine oxidizer turbopumps that eventually resulted in one engine failing in a way that resulted in loss of the vehicle. SpaceX has since implemented hardware changes inside future booster oxidizer tanks to improve propellant filtration capabilities and refined operations to increase reliability.

video was actually done before IFT-3 and he had no predictions on it (other than starship not surviving re-entry due to tiles getting shed)
argues a bit about what failure means (flight is a failure if spacex doesn't achieve all of its goals), which I guess is correct, the kvetching back and forth about this is a bit tiring desu

>>16085701
>they're really grasping at straws here with trying to extract resources at <100 ppm concentrations.
anon I think they meant water and aluminum and silicon and oxygen, not helium 3 lol

>>16086238
>being ambitious doesn't fix the fact the programme isn't doing so hot
lel

>>16086238
https://twitter.com/PantslessMadman/status/1768438996256858244

>>16086238
>it wasn't a success because.. err, well it just wasn't okay!?
more like onions-fed estronaut

>>16085439
This is cool, you made thart or is it a dug up classic?

Also that sheboon has a filter on her.

>google spaceguy5 again because I haven't seen any of his posts in ages
>second result is a Facebook with his full name
>half the rest of the results is brony shit he made himself
>lots of wiki edits too

nice of him to take time out of his busy schedule to be the least pleasant poster on the whole of the internet, at least

>>16086244
>>16086248
>https://twitter.com/PantslessMadman/status/1768403630934065591

defining failure as not meeting all the goals and success as meeting all goals, then IFT-3 was a failure
and subsequent flights can keep on being failures for quite a long time, lets say there are tile problems or difficult getting the landing within a tight enough tolerance for tower landing
all the while delivering massive amounts of payload into orbit with $/kg on par with current F9
it would still technically be a failure

>>16086257
>>16086244
>>16086238
who gives a shit? it's a test and they improve each time. their schedule has been decent verging on very good and the end result will be an incredible leap forward, and they weren't expecting unmitigated success
what the fuck is the point of seeing test-to-failure iterative design and going
>yeah but it failed

I so hate the bitchy nitpicking but I guess it's unavoidable

>>16086262
its a cope basically

>>16086255
https://www.reddit.com/user/Spaceguy5/
https://twitter.com/spaceguy5
where in God's name does he find the time to post this much. when I was a covidneet I wasn't posting this much. How does he fit it into his schedule of "working on SLS and HLS"

>>16086277
Increasingly common with people who don't like SpaceX.
>I just don't like Elon
Elon is SpaceX.You don't like SpaceX.

>>16086262
>who gives a shit?
the muskrats who were seething when wikipedia had it down as a failure?

>>16085854
good, because spacex is building their spaceport at that point

>>16086286
It would be hard to say that Jensen Huang isn't Nvidia. But it is much easier to say that about the shitpost king who juggles multiple companies.

>>16086257
hes the top g.

>>16086262
You don't understand how these people think Anon. They don't think about progress, engineering design, iterative design, stress testing etc.

They think about critiquing, destroying what others have built. They can't just shut up and go build their own companies, they can only critique people actually trying.

>>16086345
Sure, you can easily say that but it still makes you look like a retard. Without the shitpost king NASA would still have to rely on POCKOCMOC to launch astronauts.

>>16086345
You were never interested in Engineering, Space Exploration or SpaceX. Your political religion takes priority above all else, just stop posting in a thread about spaceflight when you obviously care more about anti-White politics than you do about space.

>>16086355
How interested is Musk? He wasn't present at IFT-3. That's not a big deal since he isn't integral for development. His money and ability secure capital is.

>>16086359
Maxime Fagot was instrumental to the Shuttle and had no interest in attending launches. He only showed up to one.

>>16086366
I still can't believe that the guy that designed Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and the Shuttle was literally called Max Faggot. Truly we live in a simulation

>>16086352
I think it's basically the same as orange man bad or owning the libs. it's just ingroup outgroup signalling but for some reason that's gotten out of control in the last 10 years

>>16086359
the ground shots of IFT-3 were kind of meh anyway, the actual kino was from on board cameras this time
and you can watch those anywhere

>>16085428

>>16086060
The only thing that make a little sense is as maintainers to service spy birds, but thay hardly justifies a permanent presence in orbit

Is there any info on how much Starship costs to build? I looked it up and some estimate said it's about 90 million. I just started thinking what the launch cost would be, if they ultimately didn't manage to make it fully or even partially reusable. SLS is two billion per launch, so 90 million seems like nothing even if every rocket got destroyed

>>16086244
Just now hearing news: that SpaceX’s flight test didn’t make orbit, and didn’t deliver a brazillion tons of epic NASA hardware to the lunar and mars surface. What a failure of a test [math]\unicode{x1F614}[/math]

>>16086404
emojis work on 4chan now?

>>16086396
that is the number I've seen floating around, not sure if it was based on some actual inside info though

>>16086412
it's a forbidden /sci/ jutsu that is infrequently abused

>>16086416

Euclid-bros, we got ICE'd

>>16086404
kek

>>16086404
>
wtf

It is I, savior of sci

>>16086420

>>16086429
lol

europeans still think they can into space
how do we put the final nail in the coffin in that idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQMb6Y65d0
>Starship Flew Further Than Ever! | SpaceX Starbase Update

>>16085879
https://youtu.be/Ixi0sUpLVRc?si=Kj3kmaAvBZZQ4RbQ

What demographic is What About It targeting?

>>16085525
I'm sorry but that is forbidden knowledge.

>>16085428
And where is your NASA headshot OP?

>>16086453
Are normal citizens not allowed to point out blatant corruption?

>>16086465
Meds. Now.

>/sfg/ is just race/rage bait fan fictions now
Grim.

>>16086468
>now

>>16086465
nope

>>16086465
This era belongs to those who can shed the shackles of the past.

>>16086439
barge?
testing landing on a tower at sea first?

>>16086475

starshields were on the launch
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1769921066594639961

>>16086490
why exactly 2?

>>16086476
It physically can't land on a barge, what are they even smoking?

>>16086490
only 20 satellites of the 22 on the mission were identified by the military
https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1769893647628079116

>>16086492
no idea. i could guess that its because it's still experimental, or because it's a joint project with other companies, so while spacex has plenty of starlink buses available, other companies might not have enough payloads ready to attach to the satellites

>>16086492
Because they still have to launch regular Starlinks.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-signs-security-deal-us-launch-satellite-spacex-elon-musk/
> To assuage fears from some countries — notably France — that it could become commonplace to launch satellites using SpaceX rather than Ariane, the security pact will expire in 2027.
lmao, seems like Starship is basically ignored alltogether

>>16086254
>This is cool, you made thart or is it a dug up classic?
It's from the 70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4

>>16086501
Don't spoonfeed

>On a panel at the Satellite conference, Gwynne Shotwell says SpaceX should be ready to fly Starship again in about six weeks. Says teams are still reviewing the data from the last flight and that flight 4 would not have satellites on board.
>She adds that the goal for Starship this year is to reach orbit, deploy satellites and recover both stages. And of course to launch Falcon 9 148 times.

3 FORTNIGHTS

>>16086508
Goyim

>>16086508
they might be ready in 6 weeks but they still have to wait for the FAA

>>16086508
so 4th of May like I said

>>16086516
Oh no, he's aiming for another meme date. What could be the next one, 4th of July?

>>16086508
>SpaceX should be ready to fly Starship again in about six weeks
>laughs in launch license

>>16086476
>soft water landings
No such thing. at that speed, hitting water is like hitting concrete.

>>16086512
>>16086522
FAA is currently waiting for SpaceX to finish their investigation, which shouldn't take long. Keep in mind that IFT-3 wasn't delayed by FAA slow bureaucracy.

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1769869156038353081

Is she right? Is Elon helping or hindering?

ESA needs to start a lunar economy fund like DARPA

>>16086499
there are Ariane execs who go to sleep shaking in rage kek

>>16086525
>keep in mind that IFT-3 wasn't delayed by slow bureaucracy
Yes, yes it was. It was "pending launch license" for a week or two before the launch and they only got it like the day before the launch.

Every time the deciding factor is "pending launch approval." Every time

>>16086528
Helping or hindering what? Right now he's just whining on twitter about illegals like the rest of republicans.

>>16086528
Based

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1770030227390914624

>>16086534
After the wait between IFT-1 and IFT-2, that feels like nothing. We are getting spoiled. And that's a good thing. This means that the standards are rising.

>>16085987
Satan is taking a lot of L's this year
He's probably just preoccupied by the upcoming election

>>16086541
>https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1770030227390914624

His biggest mistake is thinking that the illegal migrants will vote Democrats.

Just go to Florida and ask the migrant folks there who they would vote for.

>>16086549
Probably Democrat?

>>16086022
He's not wrong. Check the early life section.

>>16086523
You do a landing burn as if you were landing on a pad, just like Falcon 9 did in the begining

Two*3 weeks

two weeks for significant FSD upgrades too, and every two weeks from then on

https://twitter.com/SATELLITEDC/status/1770078696319168682
> The Opening General Session is LIVE, featuring Adel Al-Saleh, SES; Eva Berneke, Eutelsat Group; John Gedmark, Astranis Space Technologies; Daniel Goldberg, Telesat; Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX; and David Wajsgras, Intelsat.

>>16086412
latex supports arbitrary unicode
/sci/ supports inline latex

>>16086436
wait a few years and there won't be any left

>>16086566
hope there's a major announcement

>>16086499

There is no mentions of F9 either.

>>16086508
more quotes in foust article

https://spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/

>She added that the company doesn’t expect to deploy Starlink satellites on the next Starship launch, as some had speculated. “Things are still in trade, but I think we’re really going to focus on getting reentry right and making sure we can land these things where we want to land them.”
>Speaking at the Space Capitol III event by Payload March 18, Kelvin Coleman, FAA associate administrator for commercial space transportation, said he did not anticipate that investigation to turn up any major issues that could significantly delay the next launch.
>“It ended in what we call a mishap, but at the end of the day we deem it a successful launch attempt,” he said, because it resulted in no injuries or property damage. “SpaceX was able to collect a great deal of data from that launch.”
>He said he expected SpaceX to quickly provide a mishap investigation report, noting that after the second Starship flight the company completed that report in several weeks. “We expect the same to be the case here. We didn’t see anything major. We don’t think there’s any critical systems for safety that were implicated.”
>The FAA has updated SpaceX’s Starship launch license after every flight to date to reflect changes in the mission, such as the different suborbital trajectory used on the most recent flight. However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the license is valid for “portfolio of launches” rather than individual ones. That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to nine more Starship launches this year.

several weeks for report from FAA, shouldn't some of that be able to be done simultaneously within the 6 week timespan? like finish the investigation within 4 weeks, then give that shit to FAA, FAA starts doing it while SpaceX continues to prepare for launch

>>16085051
jfc, what a hottie

>>16086589
The booster for IFT4 hasn't been static fired yet and I don't know if the ship has been either so hopefully they get back to testing as soon as possible

>>16086534
>for a week or two
In the world of government bureaucracy, that's blisteringly fast.

>>16086625
>for a week or two before the launch
>pending
>got it the day before the launch
Read. It took them forever

>>16086549
>Asking butthurt Cubans from Miami
Try asking anyone else.

>>16086549
>One specific ethnicity in one specific state
Wew, that's your country sorted then.
lol

>>16086597
Kys you disgusting footnigger

Why is elob mad about the lemon man?

>>16085504
The side booster falcon heavies aren't even attached.

>>16086649
For asking him hard questions

>>16086648
I'm not a footnigger. watch this video and tell me she's not fucking hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHUxuE3s80I
sage because this is offtopic

>>16086549
>video
he should know. he's the one employing cheap immigrants to build his shit lmao

>>16086649
Don Lemon is pretending to be a victim, he wants the left to think Elon fired him because Elon is an "evil right winger" when in reality Don got fired for making a retarded list of demands.

>>16086660
>sage
Youre actually a retarded /pol/ immigrant arent you?

ui @SpaceX
has started following @MrBeast

>>16086681
tie the tranny under a superheavy and do a static fire

>>16086681
>MR BEAST VIDEO IN CREW DRAGON/STARSHIP CONFIRMED

>>16086681
>mr beast is going to space
he was rumored to be in the running for dear moon some years ago

>>16086686

Woot

>Felon Muskovite has to start drama to attract users to his own platform (aka Xitter)
Sad and pathetic

>>16086686

>>16086694
bro, your O2?

>>16086696
yes

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1770124983882158358

>>16086711
https://archive.is/V3JNe
seems to be a pretty short article

>>16086711
Based
They should never go public

>>16086715
Why would it need to IPO anyways? It's already making profit anyways.

>>16086244
Starship isnt a success until it lands on Mars in 2022

>>16086718
to get a big stack of cash quickly so the initial investors can exit could be a reason even if they didn't need capital
but that doesn't sound like something Musk would do and he has total control of SpaceX

>>16086723
>so the initial investors can exit
Don't they already do that with spacex?

>no ones talking about the plug and plasers that SpaceX is rolling out to satellite customers who need communications in space and on ground

>>16086721
First starship landings on Mars are going to be a failure because they finish building the fuel creation infrastructure in 7 months instead of the 6 months that Musk speculated upon in twitter

>>16086725
yes but when companies go public the valuations tend to be much higher and there is way more liquidity

>>16086727
if Starship lands on mars in 2030 it's a failure

>>16086420
Guess we'll need a NEW telescope to discover DARK MATTER DARL ENERGY hahaha

>>16086681
https://twitter.com/MrBeast/status/1770086259710370203

>>16086681
You will eat ze Feastables on Mars.

>WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE TAKE 10 PEOPLE INTO SPACE FOR 2 WEEKS BUT ONLY GIVE THEM FOOD FOR 1 WEEK

>>16086429

>WE DELIVERED 1KM^3 OF MR. BEAST BARS TO CHILDREN IN AFRICA USING A STARSHIP

>>16086689
I dont watch or like mr beast, but I'd rather him go than the every estronaut

>>16086735
Good, get zoomers into space before they get too old to care

https://youtu.be/iltYisFUzXE

>>16086739
Dear Moon just took a dark turn

>>16086153
They stole the 2020 election and the corruption will continue until that is fixed.

>>16086798
Can you fuck off back to /ptg/

need translator

>>16086776
desu a week is not enough to starve, though the people would probably become agitated

This is just like my favorite Kerbal Space slop!

>>16086808
Poster is trans

>>16086589
>several weeks for report from FAA, shouldn't some of that be able to be done simultaneously within the 6 week timespan?
Yes, that's how it always works? Do you think the FAA only starts doing its thing once the vehicle is ready? They work with SpaceX on the investigation and once that's done they review it for a little to see if there's anything else they need and to see that the changes are applied and then they modify the license.

>>16086758
why, just for the exposure? Estronaut is a goof but he knows about space stuff, surely more than Mr Beast.

>>16086820
>Kerbal
>Slop
howso?

>>16086835
I don't care about exposure, although if he really is going to fly on #dearmoon or some later mission it would probably bring some needed awareness.
I just find everyday astronaut annoying. they are both annoying but in different ways.

>>16086808
dragon gets tan! CUTE

If Mr Beast is going to space it will be on an Axiom flight.

>>16086821
why are you ban evading?

>>16086846
I havent been banned in months you got the wrong guy.

>>16086824
yes, but my point is that it should be possible to do all of this within 6 weeks even if you assume it takes like 1-2 weeks for the FAA to do the paperwork after they get the mishap investigation results from SpaceX

June

>>16085777
That'd be cool, drone swarms autonomously carrying rock/soil samples back to a central processing hub for analysis or creating gigantic photo datasets for AI analysis.

>>16085824
>mining as the main source of pollution in a hypothetical post peak oil consumption world
The mining industry is slowly cleaning itself up though, electrification of vehicles is becoming more and more common and water conservation/reclamation is improving at least in regards to tailings.

>>16085974
>NO, I'M TOTES NOT A SORE LOSER!
Kek

I can believe that Starship will be on Mars in five years. As soon as they get it working on Earth, they'll yeet one to Mars just because they can. It's another thing if it'll be in one piece or several, but it'll be there

>>16086244
>Literal who
Take your self-promo elsewhere

>>16086694

>>16086824
It took a little over two weeks from investigation closing to modified license grant this time, so I don't see why not if the investigation closes quickly enough.

spacex is offering other satellites to link to starlink through their lasers. they're building the first nodes of an interplanetary internet.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/spacex-says-plans-sell-satellite-laser-links-commercially-2024-03-19/

>>16086921
How long until spacex controls whole space industry?

>>16086921
since anyone can attach the laser to their spacecraft it'll become the de facto standard "tight beam" used in space communications

>>16086901
its the guy whos videos get posted here sometimes, pressure fed engineer or something

>>16086673
i'm pretty sure the /pol/ class of 2015-2016 is too newfag to know what sage is

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1770173270366499013

>>16086921
https://archive.is/nJz7j
short article, its fully in the pic and below

>Shotwell, speaking on a panel at the Satellite industry conference in Washington, said SpaceX as a supplier will sell that technology to other companies.
>"We'll roll that out ... with our new Polaris Dawn mission coming up here this summer on a Dragon capsule," Shotwell said, referring to an upcoming private astronaut flight with the company's Dragon space capsule.
>Space companies have opted to sell spacecraft components to diversify revenue and shore up cash to fund bigger capital-intensive projects. SpaceX is developing and testing its next-generation Starship rocket, designed to be cheaper but far more powerful than its workhorse Falcon 9.
>"We generally don't sell components, so this is a little bit of a new thing for us," Shotwell told Reuters after the panel discussion. She said SpaceX was already in talks with potential customers.

>>16086956
>certainly possible
Impossible then

>>16086928
yeah, seems to be more about establishing the standard instead of getting significant revenues