/sci/ - Science & Math

Thank you H3!

why do we keep attempting to do space travel without access to the spice?
how do we expect to get anywhere?

>>16032496
I'm sure we're not getting the whole story on the English-speaking side of the pacific, but it looks like around 2017 Canon Electronics (the camera people) decided to get involved in the space launch business and founded Space One along with Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries, Shimizu Corp, and the Development Bank of Japan. Canon owns 70% of Space One with the others each holding 10%. IHI is the only one with any spaceflight in their standing portfolio, being responsible for the Epsilon LV, the boosters on the H2 and H3, and most of the Japanese sounding rockets, although Canon has been involved in satellite development. Shimizu and the Dev. bank mostly look like they're there for funding purposes.

Given the time-frame Space One/KAIROS might just have been a bandwagon attempt to get in on the perceived small launch goldrush by someone who had more than a few irons in the fire on the payload side of things. I'm sure they can out-compete the Epsilon at its current price and maybe hold their own against Interstellar Technologies/ZERO, but I think this is just a Japanese version of European small launch carving out a small niche in their own small, protectionist pond.

>>16032524
We'll do it the same way they did it in the Dune universe before they found Arrakis, AIs that end up trying to kill us.

>>16032513
>Mid february
>Not even fullstack
>Not even WDR

Spx bros.. what went so wrong?

How big can you make a farm like this for Mars settlements? Would it be better to go vertical downwards or vertical upwards with these farms? What fish could be best grown in here for food supply and the same for the plant? Could you also just farm seaweed instead and eliminate the top section?

>>16032524
We were born to early bro, maybe in 300 or 400 years interplanetary (and maybe interstellar) travels would be possible

>>16032513
You have no idea the physical toll that three destacks have on a starship

>>16032513
Threadly reminder that chemical rockets are literally an archaic technology and this primate specie is doomed to go extinct on this rock because they were unable to get past the self-imposed handicap of Einstein.

FTLtards and anti-chemcels need to go back to >>>/lit/sffg/

>>16032529
didn't Canon also do the avionics of the SS-520? that's the one that broke Japan's own record of smallest orbital vehicle

Starship gonna turn out to be a shuttle 2.0 isnt it? No abort system, the same thermal protection and its same problem, and its being more expensive and complicated than spaceX expected, its being almost a year since IFT 1 and only we had two flights and none of them reached orbit. If it were a failure whats next?

>>16032594
Looks like they did. It also looks like Canon is really interested in expanding their space services portfolio, or at least they were six years ago

https://spacewatch.global/2018/08/japans-canon-electronics-aims-to-be-all-encompassing-space-company/
>Japanese company Canon Electronics has outlined its plan to become a turnkey space venture that builds and launches rockets from its own space launch site, and building and operating its own Earth observation satellites and selling the satellite imagery on the open market.
>“I want to launch rockets. I want to build new rockets and our own launch site as well,” [Canon Electronics President Hisashi Sakamaki] told The Japan News. “We’ve already decided on the site.” According to Sakamaki, Canon Electronics has been, “quietly developing technologies for rockets and satellites,” and that, “We’ve been thinking about whether we could turn this into our main business.”

>>16032550
>how big
However big you can construct housing facilities for it. You sink water tanks into the ground and stack plant beds up.
>what fish
tilapia, trout, perch, catfish, carp, freshwater shrimp, crayfish... many options
>what plants
leafy greens are the most productive in aquaponics. So salads, spinach, kale, mustard greens, swiss chard, all kinds of herbs. additionally fast producing annuals like tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, squash, strawberries
>farm seaweed
Then you have a marine system, which means the water cant be used for anything else. Also you need to mine the minerals for the salt and recombine them in right proportions. It could additionally grow shellfish, shrimp and marine fish, but the complexity is quite a bit higher

>>16032555
retard. Einstein has nothing to do with rocketry.

>>16032620
>If it were a failure whats next?
theres no other option. if it fails like the shuttle that would still imply many, perhaps dozens to hundreds, of successful launches. even if spacex' starship fails in this way or gets too expensive someone else will take the idea and do it better. maybe the planned chinese starship clones. so the design is kind of inevitable.

else theirs new glenn/new armstrong and the old space like sls, vulcan and ariane 6.

>>16032620
I don't think you can compare shuttle to starship
If starship explodes/fails IFT3, it won't kill 2-7 people
Also the launch vehicle is still a lot less expensive than a shuttle, shuttle was SLS levels of expensive

>>16032620
>If it were a failure whats next?
Why is it that whenever someone talks about the risk of Starship "failing" they act like results of that failure would be a complete reversion to where we were ten years ago? Falcon 9 is already capable of delivering 1750 tons to LEO per year with its existing ground infrastructure. With marginal improvements to the LV and an expansion of the number of pads/droneships you could easily double if not triple that. Falcon 9 already is Shuttle 2.0 in that it exceeded the 1970s performance goals of the Shuttle program last year.

>>16032620
> the same thermal protectioN
The tiles weren’t the problem, it’s that it was made of aluminum and would deform under the heat load, that’s why they were so thick. You could always slap an emergency ablative heat tile during a space walk and bring the crew down safely

>>16032620
>>16032733
it's not the tiles, it's not even the aluminum. it's pretty much exclusively that they were in a position where debris falling off the cryogenic tank could damage them. starship could probably get away with the same blanket and rtv silicone attachment that shuttle used. they shouldn't need to replace them nearly as often if they're on top of the rocket.

>>16032620
Even if IFT3 is completely successful, the flight profile for super heavy has it crashing into the Gulf, and starship crashing into the Pacific, neither will ever fly again and will probably be destroyed/sunk if they aren't destroyed on landing lmao

>>16032733
>>16032745
Since that Breaking Taps video i've been wondering if you could weave a blanket out of silica fibers and just use that as a heat shield.
They seemed pretty flexible before baking with the liquid stuff.

>>16032553
uh literally none

https://twitter.com/GilmourAdam/status/1759369928686371140
Australia's got rockets

>>16032898
Not making much progress

>>16032904
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-27/historic-australian-orbital-rocket-launch-remote-queensland/103265210
>Gold Coast-based company Gilmour Space has completed final preparations on its sovereign orbital system named Eris, which it hopes to launch in March, pending final approval from authorities...After obtaining various regulatory clearances including environmental approvals, Gilmour Space must now wait for a final launch consent from the new Australian Space Agency which has no prior experience in such activities.

The rocket seems done. At this point they're just waiting on the Ozzy FAA.

>>16032838
The silica fibres are not enough, you need the glass coating. I don't think weaving gives you an advantage over the current manufacturing process.

>>16032911
Good to see that they have a pad built. I guess I'm used to European companies saying they'll launch within a year but have zero infrastructure built.

>>16032550
Aquaponics is one of those things that seems great concept wise and is shilled by every eco tard but it's not magic.
The amount actual fish needed to sustain a moderately sized farm is rather large to say the least. All the water and infrastructure needed is better off being used elsewhere.

It's also very difficult to get every single nutrient from fish alone, you'll probably end up supplementing some nutrient that isn't in sufficient quantity in your fish shit.

Plus there is the whole question of where the nutritional elements are coming from. Fish have to eat something in order to shit something and whatever food you use isn't going to be nearly as nutritionally dense as water soluble fertilizer

New update from IM, including all LV sep imagery
https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1759363448884867139?t=gAhbb-J4A5BDYSBEq-iA2A&s=19

how long does it take starship to get to mars?

>>16032988
5 years to get to the moon
so extrapolating... like 300 years?

>>16032911
NOooo australia's going to beat canada to space

>>16032976
the idea is not to use fish to grow food
the idea is to use food to grow fish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI7mpjHGiFU

Have we talked about this? Great analysis on heat tiles from shuttle vs starship.

Mars needs titcows

>>16033079
not funny
not spaceflight
not interesting

https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1759276599269306578
> Hoppy and Starship Flight 3: Five years of Starship development in one picture, taken during our flyover this morning.

The ESA satellite ERS-2, launched way back in 1995, has spent the last 12 years inactive and placed into a decaying orbit.

>Over the weekend, ESA's Space Debris Office released its latest re-entry prediction, saying the satellite will likely burn up over Earth's atmosphere on Wednesday morning, plus or minus a margin of about 18 hours. The landing and re-entry location uncertainty will decrease as the spacecraft's end nears.

The usual autistic screeching from the media regarding Chinese Long March upper stage tanks burning up uncontrolled... is strangely missing and silent this time. Why is that? This thing is the size of a school bus.

>>16033116
>"The odds of a piece of satellite falling on someone's head is estimated at one in a billion," said Benjamin Bastida Virgili, an ESA space debris system engineer.

>Most of the 2.5 tonne satellite will burn up as it enters the atmosphere.

>"We estimate that the largest fragment of the satellite that could reach the ground is 52 kilograms (115 pounds)," said Henri Laur of the ESA's Earth observation mission.

>>16033116
It's not that big. The thing only weighs 2500 kg, and that's probably including the weight of the fuel it hasn't had onboard in decades.

satellites tend to burn up, especially when they're only two and a half tons

Why did we ever call pluto a planet? That thing is tiny

>>16033219
come on man. Ceres is right there and you're worried about Pluto being to small to pass muster?

>>16033087
5 years and it didnt reach orbit yet

>>16033219
Speaking of Ceres, when are we going to land on it? I'd think the current commercial lunar lander work could transafer easily to ceres. We have now soft* landed on several asteroids and comets, so its not unprecedented. Personally, I'd like to see a rover.

>>16033087
man, they've always got stage 0 loaded with scafolding for months after every flight

>>16033221
>>16033228
0.28m/s^2 gravity would probably make roving difficult

Space is empty and boring. There's nothing out there.

>>16033234
>bounces across your dwarf planet
>heh, nothing personnel kid

>>16033239
I'll take that over being surrounded by Earthers

>>16033245
>2hr
>40min
so basically space litters

OK why the fuck did SLIM land a day before lunar night? Anyone wanna riddle me that? What retarded shit decided that?

>>16033256
More than likely a political decision of "we must beat le chines" or something

>>16033245
Ceres would be a great use case for those unconventional designs

>>16033239
There is at least one car. I think l it would be fun to recover it one day and study the effects of space on it.

>>16033259
>unconventional designs
You are one of those people that would call being a tranny "unconventional lifestyles"

>>16033258
china already beat them 10 years ago

>>16033263
Most people don't cut their dicks off or make jumping robots on the moon. Also, why are trannies on your mind, anon?

>>16033263
>immediately his brain goes to trannies
you are very sick

>>16033265
US landed people on the moon in 1969 yet they still treat the next manned moonlanding a "competition".

>>16032911
>environmental approvals

>>16033271
it's a big deal considering the US lost the capability. geopolitically the clock has been reset. if china wants to go to the lunar south pole and claim land, they conceivably could, with no US there to contest

>>16033048
canada is total retardmode

>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destac

>>16033277
>geopolitically the clock has been reset
Finally someone who understands this

>>16033277
I honestly hope they do and are huge dicks about it too. Maybe they'll shove a lighting rod up the asses of NASA and congress to actually make them do something

>>16033290
Once the Lunar land rush is in full swing, they'll start grabbing other things. We need to claim phobos as sovereign American clay

>>16033245
This is a perfect mission for Boing

>>16033290
NASA is incompetant and ppwerless, Congress is overflowing with incompetance. Maybe they could accidently do something good, but they seem more happy to burn hundreds of billions overseas with nothing to show for. More than likely if China does a crewed landing before SpaceX, Congress amd the administration will just cope, saying shit like "Hehe but we been there already! Done that!" like Obama himself said. "Nothing there on the Moon anyway, why go there?" and then cut funding

chicken will go to space

https://youtu.be/TU_vOt3wSDg?t=4m48s
>Why don't we do this

>>16033307
kek

>>16033085
>t. beans male lactation anon
But seriously, it would be nice to be able to wash down the aquaponics-slop with a cup of nutritious creamy breastmilk sometimes. Think of the gains. /fit/ is obsessed with breastmilk for gains and they're onto something there.

>>16033310
Permaculture domes are the future of Martian food production

https://youtu.be/rzOCv1CYGKw
Is there a reason this is so chopped up? is it just B-roll? wish I could hear the conversations for longer

>today is impossible to replicate this picture because we dont have the technology for it

We used to live in the future bros... What went so wrong?

>>16033079
it will be lots of rice for calories and eggs, quail meat, sweet potatoes and bell peppers for every vitamin there is
prove me wrong

>>16033310
Even quails could fly in the low Martian gravity, which I think they would enjoy very much

>>16033319
I've been a big supporter of human lactation, I think we are a silent majority. There is a stigma

>>16033324
is that all i need? i will just eat these from now on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhqZHuK4x8E
> How Is There So Much Happening At Starbase!?! - SpaceX Update #102

>>16033330
Just bought your posters and merch, thank you very affordable

>>16033326
*stigmoo

USX Donald Trump, first commisioned platform of the USSF, sighted by amateur astronomers on Wednesday

>>16033342
Laser coupled particle beam spinally mounted main gun

>>16033333
shut up fag

GUYS
Uruguay signed the artemis accords 3 days ago!!

>>16033333
quints of truth, i just bought merch based on this post. not only was it very affordable, it was also extreme high quality

>>16033330
piling work for the multi-story parking garage about to begin

>>16033357

>>16033361

Happy President's Day everybody

>>16033353
Chile needs to go next and then we'll have all the South American ground station / observatory spots.

>>16033367
I get a day off of work at NASA
also Friday this week because 9/80

im going to shit my pamts im gonna fuzing shit my panta diarea style spewing out my dummy diaper like a loser

who is this new spamming weirdo? I'm OOTL. do I even want to know?

>>16033410
it's been going on for some time now

imagine

>>16033427
Just needs a spinning grab-deck

>>16033427
>kristall
Would dock

>>16033435
Kill yourself hawaiian scum

>>16033444
you mad bro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIisBG3NV8Y

idk if people watched this yet, a bunch of speculation but still very interesting

>>16033449
tl dr

>>16033449
gas bubble ingestion

1964-1969 apollo speed of developing hardware sure was fast, looking back.

>>16033466
Apollo had an entire country mobilize with a singular focus, which dwarfs SpaceX, so the fact that Apollo was faster is not really a surprise. What is, is how far SpaceX has been able to come in 10 years with 1/10th of Apollo's budget and man power.

>>16033451
there are a bunch of different topics, but perhaps four main ones:the design of the interstage and hot staging hardware; how rotation is created on the super heavy; booster engine plumbing and speculation about what could have caused super heavy destruction
but in short, the first half an hour is about the design and modifications done to the interstage and starship aft shield (bottom of starship basically)
some speculation (about 7 min) about how super heavy is rotated at stage separation, they have two theories: differential thrust from one or two RVacs on the starship starting first which would impart rotation or/and the grid fins being rotated to redirect the exaust gases from the hot staging event and yet again rotating super heavy
semi-short explanation (10 min) about methane and oxygen plumbing systems, its surprisingly simple though a lot of parts and you need to have valves and different tank sections for different parts of the flight for the oxygen tank (outer engines are only lit up to stage separation, middle engines are used during boostback and initially when the landing sequence starts and the three middle engines are used for landing)
the fourth general section is about the speculation about what caused the booster to fail: raptor might have relight problems if they need to stop and start quickly, the methane downcomer might have collapsed from water hammer effect at MECO, the LOX plumbing at the bottom of the booster might have got damaged during the brief negative g:s experienced (which got simulated pretty painstakingly by bryan hansen) or the same negative gs might have caused gas bubble ingestion as shown in the pic here >>16033452 through the LOX lines, they don't think it could have happened through the methane lines

>>16033474
there are problems with the simulation though, the liquid is simulated to be water and not liquid oxygen (LOX is about 14% denser) and there is no ullage pressure simulated either which would help to keep the liquid on the bottom of the tank

tl:dr hot staging hardware explanation, booster engine plumbing hardware explanation taken from a way longer article and then a bunch of speculation on four different ways what could have been damaged or caused the problems

it's funny that even if SS's reusability ambitions fall completely fucking flat and don't work out....
...it's still a superior, cheaper alternative to sls

>>16033477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_DIS91baL4
lastly something like this might have happened even if the LOX didn't travel as far up as the simulation shows

>>16033310
>chicken will go to space
I certainly hope so, Orpingfloofs deserve to know the joys of flight.
But I don't think that's a chicken in your picture.

for me, it's the speckled Sussex

Iterative design

>>16033245
cool logo lol

>>16032529
is that Shimizu, the same Shimizu that wants to build the pyramid buildings from bladerunner?
I think these guys dabble in architecture as well. Weird combo if so.

>>16032620
nope, even expended its going to be cheaper than Falcon 9 reused pretty much if they use it for starlink launches
commercially it might take some time to catch up if it doesn't end up being reusable (but it will, the question is more about cadence and how quickly they can reuse)

>>16032748
yes they are prototypes, do you have a point? if they land successfully in the water they are going to be scuttled in any case

>>16033079
Based on what I've heard about human milk on Good Mythical Morning, I'd rather stick to cow milk.

>>16032627
>"i want to launch rockets"
unfathomably based

>>16033219
Moon is actually a planet

>>16032976
a) you can replace fish tank with toilet
piss can go basically directly into planter while feces need a relatively more elaborate set-up with mineralization (in other words, you bake the shit to ash and use that as sterile fertilizer)
b) you obviously need monitor the nutrients on regular basis are add whatever is needed
Nitric acid can be (relatively) easily made on Mars and most minerals can be added from simple regolith leachate
you might want to bring and/or isolate pure micronutrients as well for more precise dosing

>>16032551
>he doesn't know about the upcoming dysgenic collapse that will stagnate innovation for the next 2000 years

>>16032620
>two launches how many months has it been at 2 launches?

>>16032513
According to Borisov, Russian American partnership in space will continue after the ISS is gone

>>16033726
based. although this is really just the bare minimum amount of cooperation for emergencies. it's like Geneva convention shit, not jointly supplying and manning a station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP7N9kHNO7g
>Starship Testing Reveals Problems | Starbase Update

>>16033477
ullage pressure won't make that much of a difference
I mean water bottle and fizzy water bottle slosh around basically the same way
>inb4 you can't compare starship and water bottle
a well shaken soda bottle can get up to 5 bars
starship nominal ullage pressure is 6 bars

4 tower sections arriving from KSC, this thing should go up soon no?

>>16033776
It seems no IFT-3 until april

>>16033681
I was under the impression that the center of gravity of the earth/moon system was still inside the radius of the earth

>>16032524
Smoking weed while playing KSP is the spice

>>16033846
It certainly gives you some ideas

>>16033846
>Smoking weed
ngmi

Was project Excalibur ever feasible?

>>16033861
no but it would've produced a bunch of cool hardware to try

>>16033116
It is significantly smaller than a CZ-5C, was launched in 1995 instead of 2024 and isn't doing an uncontrolled reentry because China doesn't want to bother my wumao friend.

mars needs more mass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cJtAFr0K7M
what could have been

>>16033886
They should put Phobos and Diemos into Mars, it's a start.

>>16033861
What part of bomb-pumped x-ray laser sounds feasible
I put it on the same level of cold war crazy as Project Pluto and Orion

>>16033903
>Project Pluto
They literally designed that whole thing. It's feasible.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2024/02/18/blue-origin-merritt-island-rocket-factory-ramping-up-new-glenn-first-launch-cape-canaveral-florida/72495230007/

>>16033861
>The exact material of the lasing medium has not been specified. The only direct statement from one of the researchers was by Chapline, who described the medium on the original Diablo Hawk test being "an organic pith material" from a weed growing on a vacant lot in Walnut Creek, a town a short distance away from Livermore.[10]

https://twitter.com/ENNEPS/status/1759622640984109426

Its here. The tower segments have arrived at Brownsville. Two Towers

>>16033936

one for launching, one for catching? I assume they're worried that some part of the catch mechanism will get broken at launch. idk

>>16033861
Not sure but considering that russia gets a lot into hypersonic missiles and atomic suicide submarines instead on relying on icbms makes me think that usa will have in the future means to effectively counter russian icbms and maybe space based lasers are one of them.

>>16033936
twin towers?

>>16033919
>"They've had just as much time as SpaceX. They've had just as much time as SpaceX — but they've been taking their time. They've been very deliberate. And they have different areas of interest," Forczyk said.
Lol, lmao even

>>16033449
BLACK.

>>16033936
I wonder how long it takes to put together. Probably two weeks KEEEEEEK

>>16033939
>one for launching, one for catching
no. that is a stupid meme.
just two towers.

>>16033926
what were they smoking lol

TWO
WE- TOWERS

>>16033116
Bingo time

https://youtu.be/kPvJleDfsGI?si=IQ4mQeHT1v9iLeG9

>>16034057
Its ogre

>>16034057
Why did anon lie to me? NSF/L2 anon was vindicated?

Here's your human rated spaceplane bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzPHIxdvZtU

its funny how hilariously optimistic SpaceXstans are when their fat retard mascot is wrong about his dates every single time. remember when he was saying they would launch in feb? not looking good muskrats...

>>16034106
what does this post contribute to the discussion?

>>16034108
reality check

>>16034108
People with EDS have to vent less they start harming themselves.

I want to launch rockets into Uranus

>>16034112
When will ULA create zero boiloff Musk haters?

Tomorrow, we unveil the future of human space travel. Stay tuned.

#spaceperspective #overvieweffect #space #travel #future #earth

https://x.com/spaceperspectiv/status/1759642941876846712?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>16034157
Faggy retarded BO New Shepherd ripoff incoming.

>>16034133

>>16034157
Going by the preview, they probably mean suborbital space tourism and I suspect it does not involve rockets

>>16034163
Correct, we have seen Space Perspectives “space” balloon in the factory and in renders but I think they may have finished construction of it, hence the announcement

>>16034163
So what, they're gonna throw it really hard?

>>16034166
Oh right a balloon, that makes more sense than >>16034167

>>16034167
Suborbital spin-launch tourism would be rad.
Yes I am aware of the g-forces involved.

>>16034175
Cant wait to be euthanized before I even get off the ground

>>16034175
I can imagine families watching the first launch. The anticipation of the spin up and whir of the machine. Then suddenly the hatch opens & just sprays chunks of flesh and blood into the air. Another successful day at spinlaunch™

>>16032620
Starship will never be human-rated.

>>16033571
ToT

>>16034257
Thats okay, I'm a Beast.

Remember when Elon told us 3 weeks and it might launch around christmas

>>16034273
Yeah, 2024 christmas

>>16034273
Any IFT launch is christmas

>>16034273
Elon is a fat retard blowhard witha fetish for getting masturbated on a plane.

>>16034273
I fucking hate him. Still waiting on my pony

>>16034273
And it will.

>>16032984
Stunning.

>>16034299

>>16034301
Wrong photo, managed to screen cap the same one twice.

>>16034048
D19
everything lands in Australia.

>>16034299
>>16034301
>>16034303
>screen cap
Why are you such a retard?
They already posted way better ones.

>>16034322

>>16034323
Although I admit these are clearly AI or something fucky like that

>>16034325
>AI
AI upscaled

CGI

>>16034336
>>16034330
Youre a fat cunt you know that right

>>16034348
Oof lost your composure much?

>>16033219
It's weird to me how even Ceres still has a gravity of almost 1 foot per second and just how convenient that still is.

>>16033999
checked

The Central Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (TsNIIMash), which is the leading institute of Roscosmos, is working on a new reusable ultra-light launch vehicle capable of launching not only from the cosmodrome. The main customer of the project is the Ministry of Defense.

According to the head of Roscosmos, Yuri Borisov, as in the case of the promising Amur-LNG rocket, the development of an ultra-light carrier provides for its reusable use. It is planned that both launch vehicles will be based at the Vostochny Cosmodrome.

Yuri Borisov also noted that the development of the carrier has been ongoing for two to three years, however, due to innovative engineering and technological solutions, the details of the project have not yet been made public.

The General Director of Roscosmos, Yuri Borisov, announced that construction of a launch complex for the promising Amur-LNG launch vehicle at the Vostochny Cosmodrome will begin in the near future.

According to him, the engineering documentation has already been prepared by colleagues from the Progress RSC and TsENKI (Center for the Operation of Ground-Based Space Infrastructure Facilities), and they are faced with the task of significantly reducing the cost and speeding up the construction process of the launch pad.

Borisov noted that they did not hesitate to use the experience of Elon Musk, since today there is no need to build bulky structures, and everything can be done quite optimized.

>>16034157
>A
>FUCKING
>BALLOON
fucking yawn

>>16034048
its a polar satellite so could land literally anywhere.
A10 lol

>>16034368
Well, if Russia does manage to get the Amur to the pad they'll be joining reusable spaceflight behind the Chinese but might be pulling even with India's NGLV for third place. They are, wildly, still ahead of Europe.

>>16032976
>Plus there is the whole question of where the nutritional elements are coming from.
From Mars, you dumb shit. We're not talking about a station orbiting in LEO.

>>16033477
>ullage pressure would help to keep the liquid on the bottom of the tank
It doesn't work that way

>>16033999
>what were they smoking
An organic pith material from a weed growing on a vacant lot in Walnut Creek

>>16034396
Stop being planetist

>>16034323
I hadn't noticed before that they got a Columbia Sportswear sponsorship. For all that inclement moon weather!

>>16033901
That's almost nothing. Even ceres would be almost nothing. Surface gravity would go from .38 to .4

>>16034401
It would make the simulation less accurate no?
Not that it would prevent slosh alltogether or even much at all

>>16034523
Pressure makes zero difference to slosh, exactly zero. Think about it logically.

>>16034166
Why is it flying over cuba?

>>16034357
Ceres lander when?

>>16034537
if i tell you promise you wont be mad

Have we finally gotten an update?

>>16034579
the satellite broke down before they could test it

>>16034581
sus

>>16034579
Dog ate my satellite

>>16034581
I knew it had been compromised by glowies when the satellite got delayed to a later Transporter launch

>>16034540
When you get a mission with enough funding to spring for a Falcon Heavy launch. Ceres isn't that far out in terms of raw distance but its orbit is inclined about ten degrees relative to Earth's and that makes it a bit of a bitch to get to. The cheapest trajectories have C3's that's about equal to your average EGA Jovian trajectory.

falcon heavy center core a baka

>>16032515
You just know

>>16034579
conveniently broke before it could be tested. now you have to wait 5 years for the next attempt

B10 lifted off the pad

>>16034671
its over

>>16034671
>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down

>>16034671
this is really bad

I'm going to lose my job if Mars Sample Return is cancelled AMA

>>16034671
How many lifts are boosters rated for before they must be scrapped? We must be pretty close now.

>>16034685
why should I care about you losing your ability to sit around and soak up my tax dollars?

>>16034685
Good

>>16034685
y are you gay?

>>16034685
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

>>16034671
Its so over, no IFT-3 until june

>>16034687
They scrapped B9 after 5 destacks....we're at 4 now...

>>16034707
no biggie, they have another booster ready and waiting

>>16034671
Its fucking over

>>16034712
>no ingines
>not hot stage ring
>no proof test
holy shit your as retarded as they come

>>16032620
>whats next
Get rid of Elon's stupid fucking shuttle clone and put that 100 ton methane booster to good use on a three stage non-reusable rocket as a cheaper alternative to the SLS. Oh yeah...fuck Mars.

>>16034721
Or better yet, elect dan goldin for nasa administrator cancel artmemis and everything. start building aeres-jupiter and put out a contract for altaïr lander. be on the moon before china

>>16034721
Just make your own rocket, loser.

>>16034720
boo-hoo nigga it could fly tomorrow if they wanted

>>16034685
Why are you a fat lazy nigger?

>>16034727
Cry more you black african subhuman apeoid cock sucking nigger faggot

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1759725847575937330

> Propulsion mixture ratios, mass flow rate, and temperature were as predicted. Overall, Intuitive Machines characterizes the execution of the CM as nominal and per expectations. 2/5
> On February 18th, flight controllers commanded the lander’s first planned trajectory correction maneuver, igniting the lander’s engine for the second time, and are planning the anticipated final required maneuver before Odysseus’ largest challenge to date, lunar orbit insertion, which is expected on Wednesday, February 21st.
In addition, flight controllers completed all NASA and commercial transit payload operations this morning. 3/5
> Odysseus continues to be in excellent health, and flight controllers are analyzing and managing the lander’s thermal conditioning for critical systems and payloads with a combination of heater power and attitude control to maximize efficiency. 4/5
> We expect to continue to provide mission updates at least once a day on X and the IM-1 Mission web page, where we intend to host a live stream for landing coverage. 5/5

https://www.intuitivemachines.com/im-1

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1759775095889756420

>>16034764
>>16034765
Every other country MOGGED by Ulysses

>>16034769
Yeah well youre a fat american pigdog and had your face smashed in by a pan

>>16034769
Greeks in 800BC:

>>16034771
hey im the one who started the pigdog meme. meme stealer! :(

>>16034774
Lmao

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/a-large-european-satellite-will-come-crashing-back-to-earth-this-week/
> Nearly three decades ago, the European Space Agency launched its largest and most sophisticated Earth observation satellite to date, the European Remote Sensing 2 satellite, on an Ariane 4 rocket. The spacecraft functioned well for more than 15 years before the space agency decided it was reaching the end of its operational lifetime.
>Rather, there is a very, very tiny chance it could fall on someone's head. Because it is such a big satellite, fragments as large as 52 kg (115 pounds) could reach the surface.

https://blogs.esa.int/rocketscience/2024/02/05/ers-2-reentry-live-updates/

>>16034824
predicted to come down in about 36h

https://www.space.com/varda-first-in-space-manufacturing-capsule-landing-preview

Vardas capsule is also predicted to come down tomorrow

>>16034832
https://twitter.com/VardaSpace/status/1757889416045953061

3 updates from Varda, might as well post them all

>>16034834
https://twitter.com/VardaSpace/status/1758235163127898405

>Update #2 on Varda's W-1 Mission:

>>16034836
https://twitter.com/VardaSpace/status/1759476139204952160
> Update #3 on Varda's W-1 Mission:
>Go @RocketLab! Go Varda!

>>16034837
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1759477437531091033

video about the first burn to lower perigee

>>16034841
https://twitter.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1759484548335939725

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/japans-new-h3-rocket-proved-it-works-but-will-it-catch-on-anywhere-else/
>The Japanese government approved development of the H3 rocket in 2013, and the program has cost approximately 220 billion yen (nearly $1.5 billion). JAXA funded most of the cost, while Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) serves as prime contractor for the H3 rocket. MHI will also take over commercial management of the H3 program.
>The H3 isn't a revolutionary rocket. It's an evolution of Japan's H-IIA and H-IIB rockets, which have amassed a laudable success record in more than 22 years of service.

Fuck you dude

>>16034847
>The four configurations of Japan's new H3 rocket, with varying numbers of core stage engines and solid rocket boosters, and short and long payload fairings.
>

The long-term goal for JAXA and MHI is to reduce the cost of an H3 launch to less than half that of an H-IIA mission, with a target of 5 billion yen ($33 million) per flight for the lightest version of the H3, without any solid rocket boosters. In that configuration, the H3 can deliver a payload of more than 4 metric tons (8,800 pounds) into a Sun-synchronous polar orbit a few hundred miles above Earth.

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4745/1
>Delivering a business case for rocket cargo

>>16033310
Probably just figure out how to freeze the eggs so it doesn't destroy the embryo and raise the first bunch in a incubator on Mars.

>>16033310
yes

>>16034834
Nobody give a shit if it aint Vast

>>16034862
lol those two companies have nothing to do with each other
and in-space manufacturing is pretty cool actually

>>16034862
i only care about vagina

>>16034874
your moms vagina is as Vast as a hangar

>>16034765
Moon isent real u dumb fuck -__-

>>16034876
you bastard fucker bloody fuck you

>>16034843
Unintentional but a perfect (and even better, free) endurance test for the Venus transit

remember when elon said you'll be able to afford a flight to mars if you sell your house? well houses back then were a third of the price that they are now. and that was just 10 years ago. since we wont be landing on mars for another 10 years, then houses will be 3x the price that they are now. you're looking at $3 million for a ticket price to mars if you're lucky. hope you're saving.

>>16034849
why does a japanese rocket say japan? shouldn’t it be in kanji? or at least say nippon?

>https://spacenews.com/stormy-weather-over-noaas-commitment-issues/
>companies cant make a business case from satellite weather data
you dont say? who would buy weather data when its free and abundant? why did they ever think this was a good idea?

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1759637237573070890

>>16035003
>2024
>still no depots in space
bro its just a gas station whats taking us so long? there are hundreds of thousands of them on earth.

>>16035011
soon

>>16034756
ok earther scum

>>16034850
The setup, loading, flight precheck, and wait-on-the-weather in both the launch and landing zones makes this impractical. If you need supplies in a hurry, you throw them into a cargo plane and either land the plane as close as possible to the target, or air-drop it onto the target. With a rocket, you are assuming the payload is already on the rocket, the rocket is already on the pad, tested and fueled, and hope the weather at both places is good to go.

>>16035045
you would have payloads waiting for critical cases
and obviously you wouldn't need to test anything, this assumes starship reliability is something close to airplane level or at least where you don't need to do wet dress rehearsals or static fires
just load it up and launch
you would have to be able to load it quickly but I don't think there are any fundamental problems there? just make the pumps and pipes bigger
the weather is what it is and will perhaps eliminate some opportunities to use the system, but it is what it is
flying a plane to the other side of the world takes like 20h, Starship travel time is 30min, you could probably get payload loading and refuel it down to 30min

>>16035052
>just make the pumps and pipes bigger

If you use the word "JUST" in any engineering discussion on improvements to pre-designed systems, you show just how little you know.

>just add solid boosters to Superheavy, make it lift more
>just convert it to hydrogen fuel, its better delta-v
>just let Elon run NASA, he's smart!

>>16035045
>The setup, loading, flight precheck, and wait-on-the-weather
Retvrn to solids

>>16035055
It's not that easy in rocketry

>>16035055
what fundamental problems are you going to have? need to scale up the related infrastructure as well around the tank farm, maybe some slight modifications to the rocket
but this is nothing like adding solid boosters or dealing with hydrogen, its pumping more methane and LOX into the ship

>>16035059
and in fact you could just add solid boosters to Starship, it would be retarded but you could do it
there is not fundamental problem in doing so
hydrogen is a complete non sequitur and so is that EDS seethe
you are basically saying, anything to do with rockets is automatically extremely complicated and can't even be thought about because reasons
actually come up with some argument with respect to the discussion in hand and don't bring up irrelevant bullshit

>>16032620
The future is starship style cargo rockets and falcon heavy style people transporters

>>16032904
translation: look at my space dildo goy

>>16034849
Imagine if they can get the cost of the Heavy to $50m

>>16032620
Seriously, it's not hard.
This would 100% fix all of Starship's problems.

>>16034849
>>16035066

>Expendable rockets.

imagine if it was reusable.

>>16035072
>reusable

>>16032620
Also another thing the fucked the economics of the shuttle is originally they planned for as many as 50 flights a year. This was impossible and as a result the cost per flight exploded. SS is even more sensitive to it's flight rate goals because it requires refueling, although more vehicles will be built.

>>16034607
>2 year old company with zero missions shits the bed on their first attempt
>must be a gubment conspiracy

>>16035099
Starship costs $100M per stack
Each engine is only $250k
It is and never will be comparable to the shuttle cost-wise even if every single launch is expendable

We may soon see Xiaomi and Geely ads on Baseduz launches

https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1759875397754237145?s=20

>>16035117
cringe

>>16035045
If the Starship vision pans out and there are launches happening every few hours, it doesn't seem impossible that they'd find a way to swap in a truly urgent payload in not very long if the situation arose. Sure, weather is a limit... but planes don't work in all weather, either; it's a difference of degree, and it needs more argument to prove it's a big enough difference to make it a difference in kind, especially if the mission is so urgent that risking losing the ship and cargo is okay if that means likely faster delivery (which is a lower threshold for unmanned Starships than manned aircraft!).

I agree that, for journeys of a couple of hours by plane, it highly probably won't make sense. But (e.g.) east coast America to Japan has point-to-point Starship plausibly beating air freight. Also, depending on the cargo, you might be able to race across multiple modalities and really get the minimum possible delivery time.

>>16034183
It could be cool for those assisted suicide places, you die and get your remains shot into space.

>>16034531
Huh, I never realised how much bigger the orion capsule is than the apollo one.
>>16034667
>now you have to wait 5 years for the next attempt
Closer to one or one and a half years I think, either q4 2025 or later this year if the ceo of ivo get's his way.

>>16034834
It fucking sucks that it's taken them like 7 months to sort this out, I wonder if someone from the government complained to the FAA when they found out Varda were planning to land it in Australia.

Elon on Katherine Brodsky's X Spaces: Probability of flight 3 reaching orbit is 70-80%. Getting ready to launch flight 3 in 2nd week of March, March 8th or sooner, some time in the first half of March. Flight 4 will be ready shortly after.

>>16035117
not a chance, CCP didn't open up its commercial sector for no reason
but Russia might launch some brazilian or south african payloads - if they have any

>>16035172
can you live inside this thing for 10 days with other people?

New info on space perspective

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/20/forget-rockets-space-perspective-wants-to-take-you-to-ultra-high-altitudes-using-balloons

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/space-perspective-unveils-the-future-of-human-space-travel-302065695.html

>>16035208
The capsule

https://youtu.be/SpXDTMmVkCI?si=lo9VKvi_bk8iaSS8

Tickets are 100k. 10-14 test flights in 2024 before crewed flights before the end of the year or early next year

Any careerfags can help me out? I've been working in this company for 3 weeks now where I program a 6 axis robot to weld things together. And I managed to make a few programs that weld this part together except the programs at this point don't contain some important welding parameters such as current and similar. And that's all I really need before I can start welding. Now the only other person in the company that knows how to use the robot has just been giving me excuses on why he can't show me how to set up the robot's welding machine for the past couple of days. Is this some kind of trick to see if I'm gonna start welding on my own. I'm planning on testing the welding tomorrow no matter what.

>>16035212

>>16035188
So end of march/beginning of may for ift-3 and then 4 sometime in summer?
>>16035208
>Space Perspective will go to just 18 miles
So nowhere near space then.

>>16035217

>>16035188
https://twitter.com/Teslaconomics/status/1759787903318974871

Lunch soon

https://archive.is/YRlye

> The Elon Musk-led company entered into a $1.8 billion classified contract with the U.S. government in 2021, according to company documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal.

>>16035229
2.5 weeks until the 8th of March

>>16035229
Soon. Only took almost three months since last time they were delivered.

>>16035225
They should put actual space ships and the iss on that. Oh wait, it would be fucking huge cause they orbit 10 times higher than this "space balloon"

https://twitter.com/SierraSpaceCo/status/1759956031155671078
>We are developing and testing “game changing softgoods expandable technology” that leverages the ability to “pack and compress” softgoods structures at launch, then deploy to utilize maximum volume for on orbit operations.
>These technology advancements provide “low mass to volume ratios” that are unmatched in the industry. Other habitation providers rely on larger and more powerful rockets with increased fairing envelopes to reach our inflated volumes.
>We can launch packed and deploy to an average 625% volume increase once pressurized in orbit, offering more on orbit capacity at a reduced size and mass.
>We look forward to further developing this technology as we build the world's first commercial space station.

>>16035198
With one other person maybe. 2-4 others no way in hell.

>>16035257
>5 cubic kilmeters

>>16035265
one cubic kilometer is a billion cubic meters, not 1000

>>16035216
It depends. How expensive is the test article? Why does your supervisor not care that you haven't done anything for two weeks?

>>16035229
We are so back!

>>16035243
>explosives arrived in late august
>launch happened in mid november
yeah its gonna be awhile before we get to the next launch. forget two weeks, we're talking two MONTHS.

>>16035257
I've seen this KSP mod

asTROONomers arent giving up in trying to get rid of starlink

U.N. committee to take up issue of satellite interference with astronomy
>A United Nations committee will study the interference risks that satellite constellations pose to astronomy, a year after rejecting a similar proposal to do so.
>The agenda item would allow COPUOS to address concerns about how satellite constellations can disrupt Earth-based astronomy. That includes satellite transmissions that can interfere with radio astronomy and reflected sunlight from the satellites that can create streaks in optical and infrared images.
>“This is a significant diplomatic moment for astronomy,” said Richard Green, an astronomer at the University of Arizona...“Since the first constellation launches in 2019, we have been working hard to raise awareness of this issue with all relevant parties and at all levels. It’s very gratifying to see the United Nations recognize its importance and agree to look into the issues and challenges posed by large constellations.”
https://spacenews.com/u-n-committee-to-take-up-issue-of-satellite-interference-with-astronomy/

>>16033776
>Problems

>>16035292
the UN is irrelevant

>>16035292
the starlink light pollution stuff is so funny because immediately when people realized it was light pollution ...for optical astronomy performed at dawn/dusk... they completely forgot about it.

>>16035317
as it should be.

look at all that unused space

>>16035208
>and you call it "space perspective" despite the fact it is clearly within the upper atmosphere

Reusable rockets, expendable astronauts, deplorable bureaucracies.

>second week of March

two weeks became three

>>16033903
>What part of bomb-pumped x-ray laser sounds feasible
the part where it works
Project Pluto would also work
Orion drives... need to be tested

>>16035277
I mean I have done thing I just keep making more programs that weld that same part. Now we don't have to start welding the test article right away, we can start by welding together 2 random pieces of steel

>>16035330
Water continues being wet, more at 8

>>16034685
how does it feel to know that you deserve to lose your job despite doing nothing wrong personally because you decided to work for a corrupt jobs program?

>have to wait 3 more weeks for mega-grift
it's over

>>16035334
So tell the person who you wanted help from you're gonna start welding a test piece since they weren't available. And then do it.

>>16035342
he's such a based man

>>16035343
thanks. Already told him that today. Gonna weld something tomorrow morning. The test article is a stainless steel frame, same as Starship

A Soyuz rocket ordered by the soviet ministry of defence in the late 80s as part of negotiated batch orders for spysats which eventually launched just as the USSR collapses, would have a cost to mass to orbit as low as $2/kg by the time the contract is fulfiled

>>16034926
English is trendy
>>16035072
Kamille is so lucky to have such a cute mommywife
>>16035216
for every thou you should aim to use one amp
I don't know the limit for single pass amperage/thickness on automatic welding but at a certain point the metal feed just goes all retarded on you
>>16035346
what's the thickness of your part
is it MIG

>>16035352
roughly 1.5 mm thickness. TIG welder.

Anyone have an epub of Zubrin's new book?

>>16035357
I posted it on our discord

>>16035357
Nobody here but you likes Zubrin, let alone shills him
>inb4 i like zubrin
Samefag
>>16035366
Thats a myth kek

>>16035354
as a starting point just go for 60 amps and play with the speed and feed rate until it works
don't worry about the start and ends of the weld until you got the middle looking good
at least, that's what I'd do if I were doing it by hand

>>16035371
>he doesn't know about the discord
I bet you've never even heard of the pastebin before

>>16035373
alright I'll try those settings

>>16035380
I've never welded stainless so it might fuck it up but at least you won't be shooting completely in the dark
with sheet steel that thin things are going to get weird, surface tension will absolutely pull the melt puddles away from each other if they get separated at all

the thickness of your tungsten will also factor into the arc characteristics, and even how you grind the tip of the electrode
be prepared to burn through a few hundred coupons learning how to weld lmao

>american military is bitching about china's new spy satellites
>instead of finding ways to defeat them they just complain and accept that they exist
how about building some weapons to defeat them instead of crying

>>16035386
American empire is in decline

>>16035366
Found it, thank you

>>16035328
So the rocket gets back but it kills the astronaut?

>>16035386
>>16035388
It's politics.
The US military could end it all tomorrow, if DC let them.

>>16035272
newfag

>>16035396
1000x1000x1000
10003
not hard

>>16035386
the weapons already exist, we've even publicly demonstrated one of them
does anybody have that gif of the Northrop Grumman satellite sticking its penis up the engine bell of a geostationary satellite?

>>16035403
you won't win arguing with a retarded ancient meme
I didn't win in 2018, you won't win now

>>16035406
I just won

>>16035403
>he doesn't know

>>16035409

>>16035404
someone sauce

>>16035414
I just googled for the name of the program and found a still at least

>>16034721
there is no alternative

Our boy gonna get the Noble Peace Prize

>>16035442
is this guy a Russian agent
like has he parroted obvious Kremlin talking points at any time

>>16035442
Looks like grovelling to the Jews has paid off for ol' Musky

>>16035442
God I hope he wins, just for the seething that will happen

>>16035442
the Nobel peace prize has been a stain for real Nobel prizes (such as physics prize, economics prize). Didn't Obama get the Nobel peace prize

>>16035467
Economics prize is just as fake

>>16035442
That means nothing. The list of people who can make nominations include eg. members of parliament of any country, university professors and associate professors etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize#Nomination

>>16035386
>american military is bitching about china's new spy satellites

Are they? Give us a link or a quote.

>>16035473
you got an argument to back that up?

>>16035485
It's presented by a bank and not the Nobel Prize committee. And everyone who has won it so far has made the world demonstrably worse for their contributions

>>16035416

i wish my sweet baby girl didnt delete her posts

What is he thinking right now?

>>16035528
Jews

The Commission of the Government of the Russian Federation approved the bill on advertising on space technology

The adoption of the law will allow the State Corporation to actively conduct advertising campaigns, including the installation and operation of outdoor advertising on space infrastructure facilities and advertising on space technology.
The implementation of advertising campaigns within the framework of existing space programs should contribute to the popularization of space activities and attract young personnel to the space industry. In addition, the income received will be directed to the development of innovative space programs and projects.

>>16035574
Based

>>16035528
aeiou

>second week of march
>march 8
>hopefully sooner than march 8
>first half of next month

>>16035574
The US space program was doing this too when it was dying

IM-1 moon landing attempt 5:49pm Eastern on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1759775095889756420

>>16035574
>This launch was brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends

F9 is launching putin

Yuri Borisov: "Amur-SPG Rocket" and Super-light carrier will be reusable"

"We need a cheap, cost-effective carrier to replace the Seven (R-7), so we started creating a promising carrier Amur-LNG. In addition, we are working on ultralight carriers. I hope that sometime around the turn of 2028-2029 we will upgrade the launch vehicle fleet and be able to regain our position in the global launch services market."

— Can I tell you more about the ultralight carrier, is there already a name of the project and its understanding?
— For about two or three years, work on it was commissioned by the Foundation for Advanced Research, it was, in fact, of a startup nature. The work was not advertised, since this carrier is quite innovative in its design and technological solutions, new alloys and composite materials are used there. The tests of the experimental stages of the future carrier were, in principle, successful, which proves the correctness of the design decisions. Today we are interested in manufacturing engines and confirming the characteristics that they contain. If everything goes well, we will speed up this work.

— Is the reusability of the ultralight carrier envisaged?
- Just like in the Amur LNG project, the ultralight carrier provides for reusability. The type of fuel that is supposed to be used there — liquefied natural gas — has the best characteristics for flights of the return stage, and the preparation cycle is much lower than, say, rockets that use classic rocket fuel components.

— What are the most ambitious tasks outlined by the head of state at the meeting on the development of the Russian rocket and space industry, held last autumn?
- The most ambitious task is related to the transfer of the industry to new industrial tracks. This is due to the demand for space data and the dynamic development of multi-satellite groupings, for the large-scale deployment of which, objectively speaking, we are not ready today.
And we are currently focused on this direction — to transfer the main satellite-building assets to mass production in order to be able to produce at least 250 satellites per year by at least 2026. Today, theoretically, we can produce about 40 satellites annually, but in reality we produce even less.

— How many space launches are planned for this year?
— Over 40. But plans are always plans. We planned more launches last year as well. But, unfortunately, due to a number of objective circumstances, we were unable to complete the launch program completely. We've been working hard on fixing bottlenecks. The main bottleneck was in the Scientific Research Institute of Precision Instruments. If until 2023 they produced an average of two or three sets of devices per year to support space launches, then last year they produced more than ten. The efforts that we made last year and will continue in 2024 should lead to the rhythmic work of cooperation in order to eliminate the postponement of satellite launches. The main task for this year is to complete the entire launch program. In fact, it determines the financial and economic situation of the industry.

>>16035613
>iphone
Yikes...

>>16035613
Ultralight carrier? More like ultralow energy.

— Elon Musk does not hide that the Starship ship being developed by SpaceX is largely inspired by the Korolev's lunar superheavy rocket H-1. And did the Russian space industry abandon this particular technical solution with several engines, or is it also planning to create something similar?
- I think that in the superheavy carrier N—1 Sergey Pavlovich to some extent overstepped the technological capabilities of that time. That is, the ideas embedded in the design of this rocket were not supported by the appropriate control systems, without which it was impossible to ensure the synchronous operation of all engines. And that's why this project failed.
Nevertheless, the technical solutions of that time remain relevant today. And in the development of the Korolev's "Seven", we began work at the Progress RCC on the promising Amur-LNG carrier, where a new type of fuel will be used – liquefied natural gas, more economical, more efficient, and the idea of a multi-engine power plant will also be implemented. If this work turns out to be successful, we hope that we will be able to replicate it and use the design solutions embedded in this rocket for a superheavy carrier. So we are moving exactly along the path that Sergei Pavlovich outlined at the time.

>>16035613
Rightmost is cute

What are the chinks launching in a LM5? Something big and LEO?

>>16035615
>4 men in the picture
>3 are balding
grim

>>16035629
Was not selling Elon the ICBM and goading him into founding SpaceX also part of Korolev's grand plan?

>>16035528
*beep*

>>16035629
Long roundabout way of announcing they want to make a Starship clone one day

>>16035631
Big military GSO satellite, possibly SIGINT or early warning, not visible observation like the last launch.

We are so fucking back. 2030 will be our year. You better watch out

>>16035484
https://spacenews.com/why-space-force-is-growing-more-alarmed-by-chinas-eyes-in-the-sky/

>>16035648
>Potentially problematic for the U.S. military is that an optical sensor like Yaogan-41, in certain conditions, could spot stealth aircraft designed to be undetected by radar. “If there are no clouds, you could see an aircraft with an optical capability,” Swope said.

Finally, the stealth meme is over. Time to go back to bigger attack planes with overwhelming firepower and defenses with loyal wingman drone escorts

good deploy

This story is wild

https://www.bahamas.com/pressroom/ministry-of-tourism-investments--aviation-secures-historic-agreement-with-spacex-to-propel-bahamas-into-the-space-technology--tourism-frontier

>>16035656
Fucking stupid chud country supporting Elmo Husk

>>16035651
*blocks your path*

>>16035656
>Sonic boom and a fiery stick landing from the heavens
I would like to experience that while enjoying tropical weather

>>16035651
Optical metamaterials are an easy fix

>>16035648
>>16035651
>american military
>Clayton Swope, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies

wumao will wumao