/sci/ - Science & Math

https://twitter.com/stoke_space/status/1749799116136484948

>>15992632

>>15992636

Latest Russian "timeline" shows only single Soyuz going to #ISS in 2026 and 2028, no flights in 2030. I wonder if NASA knows that it will have one crew exchange opportunity in those years? (...and we can ignore the shown ROS schedule as completely, positively unachievable):

https://x.com/russianspaceweb/status/1749837175363895526?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>15992643

>>15992611
retard OP

>>15992643
its over

>>15992611
Lest be honest, this shit is cringe as fuck and makes no sense

Youre telling me you need at least 10 starships + SLS launches just to put a nigger and a whore on the moon , and its gonna be ready in years when starship cant even reach orbit? LMAO. thanks god this gonna be cancel after artemis II. So
/sfg/ bros, our last hope to see people on the moon in 4k is China and, at least were not gonna see a LGBT, BLM and Trans flags on the moon

IFT-3 Status?

>>15992665
2 weeks

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4728/1

>>15992611
Can mars ever be truely interpendent? Maybe they can be self sustaining but it seems like they can never avoid the total destruction by getting nuked, so they can always be coerced by earth. Unless maybe they get nuclear weapon but even then, they will never have enough nukes to destroy earth completly but earth has enough nukes to destroy every human infastructure on mars and a single starship would be enough to deliver enough nukes to mars. And i also assume that earth has better capacities to counter rockets filled with nukes since mass producing antirocketrockets and developing new technologies is easier on a planet with billions of humans.

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4729/1

>>15992669
>interpendent

>>15992643
Should replace the russian space station images

>>15992669
yes, but they need to be fully self-sufficient

>>15992665
Dont you see they are LITERALLY desmantle starbase you fat fuck? All this private american space experiment had failed, its so over , it was funny watch them blow up tho

>>15992674
> Despite not landing on the Moon, Thornton was upbeat about what the company was able to accomplish on Peregrine, saying that customers other than NASA on the mission thanked him for getting the payloads running on the mission. One example he offered was DLR, the German aerospace center, which had a radiation detector on the lander that was able to collect more than 90 hours of what DLR called “extremely valuable” data during the flight.

>>15992665
perpetually 3 weeks away since the FAA hasn't granted or finished review after the IFT2 failure

>>15992675
I wish being an esl would be a good excuse for my fucked up english but my peers tend to be somewhat good in english or at least better than me with english.

>>15992662
>>15992681
i feel so demoralized
china is strong

>tim ellis vocal fry

>>15992674
That whole flip flop sideways landing design just seems like a real bad idea with few advantages.

>>15992694

>>15992668
gary church is still at it in the comments? damn

>>15992669
>they can never avoid the total destruction by getting nuked
but Earthers are immune to nuclear weapons?

It is going to work.

>>15992716
Delete this

>>15992611
>>15992691
>>15992682
>>15992697
>>15992709
When are we leaving this planet bros? Im tired of delays and im getting older... They told us were gonna go to mars and beyond... Whats taking so long

>>15992745
>>15992662
>reposting last thread's comments
>thread is literally on life support
Wow Im glad I have been gone for a long time. The anime poster really killed /sfg/, see you maybe for the moon landing probably not though.

>>15992662
Elon said the latest Starship launch actually would have made it to orbit if it had included a payload. Because the ship was lighter than usual there was excess propellant, and they were venting the oxygen which led to an explosion.
(technically sub-orbit because it wasn't aiming for a complete orbit)

>>15992662
Once you build a gas station, you dont need to keep building gas stations for the same thing. Just get 1 tanker to the station once a month.

>>15992754
>implying there's only one of us

>>15992784
/sfg/ is one person though?

>>15991882
>Third, in a subsequent paper, the same authors found some traits that were perhaps less desirable in space. People in these more frontier-inclined areas showed less willingness to trust scientific consensus and less willingness to social distance or use face masks early in the COVID-19 pandemic. That might not be great in the environment of space, a place where survival will be dependent on high technology and mutual cooperation.
lol, these people still drone on about the masks

>>15992754
>implying you can leave 4chan
lol, see you in 15 minutes

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1749869702845784556

>>15992807
1/5 slides

>>15992809

>>15992792
Leftist propaganda machine running to this day to justify their propaganda

>>15992754
You mad, bro?

>>15992811
3/5

>>15992816

>>15992818
last slide

Nobody wants to discuss the unfortunate implications derived from SLIM's failure:
Topheavy landers are no good for the moon, short and squat is the way to go.

https://twitter.com/jswartzphoto/status/1749847269187150298

https://twitter.com/starlinkinsider/status/1749670519945707774

>>15992840
> Tons of folks likely tied to contract obligations (cancellation penalty can be up to $400 I believe; similar to ViaSat).
>Leaves tons of room for Starlink growth in the US, which is obviously the most lucrative geo in terms of average subscriber value.

https://twitter.com/KenKirtland17/status/1749908109802287463

https://www.nasa.gov/moontomarsarchitecture/

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/key-mars-architecture-decisions.pdf?emrc=d2385f

>>15992852

>>15992852
what a fucking mess

>>15992852
fucking tech trees man

>>15992864

>>15992875
By the time they reach "lunar base" the sun will be dead.

>>15992876
har har har youre FUNNY!! because le tortoise is le slow? hahaha so great and funniiiiiii

>>15992611
Why did Tory kill peregrine?

>>15992881
Is building BE-4 the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than building a BE-4. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are designing, prototyping, building and testing an engine for at least 18 years solely so it can go and get flown into space by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little engine - deciding on an architecture, designing the turbine and fuel pumps, making sure the combustion chamber doesn't melt or explode, pretending desperately it's somehow comparable to Raptor. All of it has one simple result: its TWR is higher for the men that will eventually use it to orbit their payloads.

Made the perfect engine? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way it was built, who integrates it. He gets to ignite it on launch day. He gets the benefits of its reliability that came from the way you designed it.

As a man builds BE-4, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to make an engine for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywYkmeF3uI
T-10:00 to the next Vandenberg scrub. Fifth times the charm?

>>15992826
>short and squat
like your mom

>>15992917
scrubcels on suicide watch

>starlink launched but the feed died

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1749954584003723697

>>15992901
Meanwhile, Elon is building harems of Meriln and Raptor engines. Sure, the early ones are lost quickly but most of them launch again and again.

Is it possible that the mars colony could be STD free if we have perfect screening of who is allowed to go?

>>15992758
but the gas station is just a tanker sitting on the side of the road with a cardboard sign

>>15992957
Of course. there are no diseases on the ISS.

>>15992957
If you screened for diseases, genetic conditions, and all sorts of things like that you could selectively eliminate quite a few ailments, but not all of them since they have compound risk factors.

>>15992957
>>15992964
>>15992961

this is evil, this is eugenics

>>15992957
no dorks with glasses also

>>15992939
I don't think the burbs got away in time...

>>15992926
Moon landers need to be fatassed shortstacks, keep the center of mass nice and low.

>>15992957
blacks and homos have STD rates 50 or even hundreds of times higher than normal people
unfortunately we have to sacrifice some amount of diversity in order to achieve a disease free planet
I trust the science on this one

>>15992969
This is eugenics. I'll wait for you to explain what makes Eugenics evil if you can avoid the "because Nazis" argument.

1/3 - Starlink 7-9
1/3 - Ovzon-3
1/7 - Starlink 6-35
1/14 - Starlink 7-10
1/15 - Starlink 6-37
1/18 - Axiom-3
1/23 - Starlink 7-11

A launch every 3.29 days. 366 days in 2024. On pace for 111 total launches if the rate holds.

>>15992977
good.

>>15992980
Intuitive machines will prove you wrong

in the future launch # will be a shitty metric
just tons to orbit
since 10:1 launches will be refueling rather than actually shit to BE in space (starship tankers...)

>>15992989
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>15992994
>since 10:1 launches will be refueling rather than actually shit to BE in space (starship tankers...)
no they wont be. the majority of missions will go to LEO without refueling.

>>15992989
>On pace for 111 total launches
They're behind

>>15992958
Tankers are gas stations on wheels instead of one without wheels and buried underground.

>>15992989
Will speed up with spring/summer/autumn weather

>>15992989
It's over... Elonbros, why can't we keep pace...?

>>15992643
Does Russia get paid to participate in the ISS? Is that why they can't fund their own space station?

>>15992989
have to accelerate to get to 150

just landed this stupid vehicle on Laythe

>>15993028

>>15993022
We lost the shuttle for nearly 10 years. They got ~$4 billion for 71 seats on Soyuz. Rough ~$400M per year in deal . That doesn't sound a lot in America, but with Russian economy/inflation in the country, that 400M goes 10X the way in terms of actual value. Thus it became the lifeblood of the Russian space.

>>15993035
I know about the Soyuz stuff, but did Russia get paid for their ISS modules as well?

https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/new-chinese-ceramic-hypersonic-aircraft

Chinese ceramic heat shields

>>15993031
I'm also fielding some experimental mass-saving magyyks, perhaps we will use some of these lessons not only in Kerbal Space Program but in the real world.

>>15993036
Zarya was built and operated by Russia, but it was paid for and owned by America. We also paid for the completion of the last two of Mir's modules as part of the pre-ISS Shuttle-Mir program. There might have been a bit more financial aid in there somewhere but those are the big parts.

>>15993039
you can't timewarp on ladders

When is the FAA going to do the thing so we can move on with our lives?

>>15993040
So is there nothing really stopping Russia from build their own station using their ISS budget?

>>15993048
>When is the FAA going to do the thing
What thing, dissolve?

>>15993048
I'm fucking around, shield+seat is the final frontier of mass saving until I figure out how to make the smaller heat shield survivable on interplanetary trajectories

>>15993064
Depending on how fast you're coming in you only need 100 ablator or so, the heat shields are overly heavy imo and you can shave off half the mass in the VAB, easy

>>15993053
They could, but that would mean pulling out of their ISS participation, which would ground the cosmonaut corps for years until the new station was ready. That's a big problem because "paused" almost always means hard canceled when it comes to the Russian space program. Things that stop almost never start back up again because all the funding vanishes.

They don't need to though, because ROS modules are already under construction. The advantage of starting ROS around 2030 is that the components can limp along to completion with minimal funding while the cosmonauts keep flying and the Kremlin doesn't reallocate their budget.

>>15993069
Oh these do interplanetary with 40, I'm talking about the tiny radius heat shield which just vaporizes the kerbal

>>15992849

>>15993048
When SpaceX finishes the investigation

>>15992745
Why leave this planet, my friends? I'm enjoying the delays, and I'm getting younger... They never mentioned Mars and beyond... What's the rush?

>1hr btween posts

/sfg/ is ded ded

>>15993125
falcon is so regular nobody even watches the streams to notice they cut out
nothing else flies

>>15993126
SpaceX are truly on another level, off the playing field, in a league of their own

only Starship can excite now, or maybe IM-1

>>15993125
>>15993126
DeathShipTwo is flying on Friday morning

>>15992849
>>15993077
lol they showed new glenn, but not starship?

>>15993133

>>15993135
Starship is implied in "commercial super heavy lift designs in development" cause there's really only one, yes this is NASA saying NG isn't superheavy lift

>>15993137
yeah i figured that, but they couldn't bother to put a pic?

>>15993136
wats pic from?

>>15993138
I have a feeling that NASA ESDMD and Associate Admin (who worked for fucken Boeing) is Starship averse and wouldn't like that

>>15993139
Peter Siebold parachuting back to Earth after SpaceshipTwo broke up mid-air and threw his chair clear of the debris. Michael Alsbury was killed, due to skill issues.

>>15993141
oh shit man, didn't know people survived that

NTR MTV are so goofy ahhh looking like frrrr
shit is wack af

>>15993137
New Glenn has never been claimed to be a SHLV?

Spaceflight should be more deadly, impose higher g loads, cause more swelling and vomiting to filter out the spacepseuds from the true cosmocels. Can we get 6x higher cosmic radiation up in here?

>>15993142
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Siebold
It was just the two of them I think, but yeah Pete survived. Imagine coming to consciousness while falling under parachute, that had to be momentarily disorienting to say the least.

What is the proper term for space simulators that aren't futuristic?
Rocket simulator?
Hard sci-fi space simulator?
Realistic space simulator?

>>15993154
autism simulator

>>15992957
They shall be made clean

>>15993154
name one

>>15993161
KSP with realism overhaul modpack

>>15993161
I'll do you one better:
Children of a Dead Earth
Kerbal Space Program

>>15993148
>Thrown clear of the Enterprise when it broke up in mid-air, Siebold survived a descent from about 50,000 feet at Mach 1 speed with just a flightsuit.
God DAMN. That's fucking unreal, I had no idea about this.
Sometimes I think what kind of wacky stories from the current day will get passed around in the future as trivia about the early days of the space renaissance. This is going to be one of them, and I even missed it when it happened.

>>15993162
>>15993163
hard sci-fi

>>15993164
Parachuting to safety after the plane you were in broke up around you is already pretty incredible, make it a spaceplane (suborbital, derogatory) and its even more incredible to walk away from.

>>15993166
nah with the realism overhaul mod, you start off in the 1950s and have to worry about stuff like ullage for igniting engines. There is literally no other game that comes close to these levels of autism for rocketry.
It's literally the ARMA of space sims.

>>15993171
thats still hard science fiction. "hard" in this context means realistic.

>>15993172
JPL mission design software and webtools?

>>15992901
mmm, delicious pasta, I must save it

>>15993172
Yeah, the problem with that is that if I look up hard sci-fi space sim, I still get stuff that's way too futuristic. Is ultra-realistic hard sci-fi a better term to describe this niche?

>>15993178
Legitimately recommend JPL mission design webtools and model rocketry then

>>15993125
minimal shitposting is good.

Modern day epicycles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzm0bN5ZRro

Anything to avoid questioning if matter condenses from aether under high gravitational fields

Earth and venus leaking helium in the exact same proportion https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.220.4595.410 because they both contain similar amounts of uranium that radio decays into alpha particles and leaks out "at an average rate of 106 atoms per square centimeter per second"

>the military has drones on standby ready to sink rockets that float instead of submerging under the water
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/mq-9-reapers-were-ready-to-blow-up-a-rocket-booster-off-california

wtf

https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/1749982978539950107

>>15992875

>China believes that its biggest competitive pressure no longer comes from Nasa but from private space companies, represented by SpaceX.
Let that sink in

>>15993274
They are right

>>15993161
Orbiter

>>15993285
I played this like 13 years ago and followed n apollo checklist like I was a clueless monkey. It worked though.

>>15992636
>the kids love this one
Imagine seeing first hand your father work on a project like this. Seeing the time, effort, the details of it. Going from doubt to seeing the project take shape and even reach space and all the steps it took.

And then realizing you will NEVER be able to contribute to a project like this because your dumber, slower and duller and weaker than your father ^_^

>>15992669
>they can never avoid the total destruction by getting nuked, so they can always be coerced by earth
This applies at present to any non-nuclear state. But it doesn't mean that states can't be self-sufficient in practical terms, just that they fall under the sphere of influence of one of the great powers.
Mars can certainly be self-sufficient. It's not like a space station. There are resources right outside the door to be had. They may choose to import hydrogen in bulk rather than extracting it from water. Nitrogen may also become a commodity. They can probably trade with overall expertise of orbital construction, since access to Mars orbit is so easy which would lead to an advantage in space infrastructure.

>>15993270

>>15993274
the sink is already inside and was for several years

look who's spamming up my job aggregator today

>>15993254
better that than letting a chinese fishing boat steal it

>>15993472
>Only elec and software
Does spaceflight not require mechanical engineers?

>>15992875
>In space manufacturing
Unless they're talking about some dinky little 3d printer there's absolutely no way they'll make any kind of real advancement that early in their tech tree.

>>15993479
I hate flanges

>>15993479
ideally no

>>15993270
5 more years

>>15993479
>and Software
Embedded Software is basically applied elec anyways

Why don't people like /sfg/?

>>15993532
Same as anything else on 4chan: someone got buttmad over something in it and wants to ruin it for everyone else.

We're back
https://twitter.com/OliverNerd7/status/1750155910536695875?t=tbPnTgkrfWlrfBF_PFuf8w&s=19

>>15993532
What people?

status on the second tower?

>>15993614
rocketry experts
think r/space, r/rocketry, twitter community

>>15993618
So you "don't like /sfg/" and are fishing for accomplices.

>>15993618
Twitter community is okay as long as you follow only CEOs, journalists and tankwatchers. Shitposting faggots are the worst.

>>15992716
What is this?

>>15993623

>>15993629
Unruh radiation and "action/reaction horizons" stuff, which is the lifeline the propellantless drive guys are currently holding on to.

>>15993630
I don't get it.

>>15993616
mr president there's been a second starship

>>15993618
>reddit niggers
>tranny side of the space group
LMAO

Follow actual people in the industry and you get the opposite response.

>>15992881
>because le tortoise is le slow?

The Tortoise is fucking dead pal

>>15993616
The one in cape?

>>15993670
the one they're building in starbase. they moved a bunch of the pieces there recently.

>>15993629
It's the thing which is gonna give us real flying saucers. QI drives don't need to exhaust anywhere. It's in orbit and the test is going to start 2 weeks from today.

>Make Partially reusable Methalox F9
>Add 4 SRBs
behold the indian genius

>>15993697
>QI drive
Doesn't work

>>15993709
Pretty fucking based desu

>>15993532
get off discord you fucking tranny faggot

>>15993610
How long before IFT-2 did SpaceX submit the mishap report?

>>15993725
presumably there was less to investigate this time because range safety functioned perfectly and the launch infrastructure didn't evaporate

>>15993709
It's not a bad plan. Common core reusable boosters take a lot of work to finish and the Indian SRB program is already well developed. It's pretty much what I'd expect Firefly-Northrop to do when they try upgrading their MLV to work in the Falcon Heavy's weight class.

>>15993731
It's not a bad plan at all

>>15993731
Expendable version isn't a bad plan
Reusable version is kinda shit because of the additional separation speed needing more propellant ot slow down, it's like trying to recover the center core of a Falcon heavy without the propulsive power of the FH Boosters, I imagine the performance increase would be very limited over even a reusable NGLV LEO

>>15993739
(and no, I don't take the performance value seriously that early)

>>15993739
The NGLV Heavy looks like it's planning on reusing the boosters and expending the core like FH. I wouldn't be surprised if NGLV-M didn't try recovering the core very often either.

>>15993632
I can make a propellantless vehicle that travels at the speed of light, but you're not going to like it

Some interesting information about the Gravity-1 rocket

Yao Song, co-CEO of Orienspace, says he thinks the cost will be $5-6k/kg to orbit, which he says is currently the lowest commercial launch price in China. From the context of talking about remote sensing satellites, I think means to SSO. He also says the Gravity-1 can be ready for launch within 5 hours from being built, and that it can carry 20-30 remote sensing satellites at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avvi_A2BLg8

Jean Deville says CGSTL bought 4 Gravity-1 launches at $27m each, which works out to $4.2k/kg to LEO or $6.4k/kg to 500km SSO
https://youtu.be/VgdOSwVDEbc?feature=shared&t=429

>>15993709
S120s can be made for fractions of the cost of GEM 63 XLs
It's fine if they can't get a Merlin-tier engine

>>15993764
adding to this
i suspect its to simplify the design of the engines so they can get a VTVL rocket ASAP
why they start flying it they can then tune it like SpaceX did with F9 v1.1

>>15993709
If India's solid rocket motor industry needs the extra business to remain viable, then why not. Such industry has military-strategic value and would've needed to be supported one way or the other anyway

>>15993762
It's definitely an interesting rocket. It'll be interesting to see how the recovery and reuse will work for their future rockets

>>15993682
probably not starting before 3rd flight

it's funny because CZ-5 is actually pretty cheap ($3k/kg which is expendable F9 level) and they finally have a foreign customer for it but it takes a really long time to prepare it
they only managed to launch it once last year which puts it behind Delta IV Heavy in terms of prep time (it did two back to back NROL missions once)

>>15993762
this things so ksp lol
I remember seeing solids called FG1000 or FG1100 or sth like that a few years ago which is more akin to GEM 60s that wouldve been used on Omega.

>>15993776
They managed to launch three times back in 2020, so they can hit a better cadence if they try. I think most of the problem is that China's domestic payloads are small and launching to undemanding orbits and they can't get international GEO customers because the State Department/ITAR won't let American sourced tech fly on Chinese rockets.

https://twitter.com/ISROSpaceflight/status/1750166397395640336/

India's new rocket using lox/ch4+f9+fh arch + 3 stages

>>15993709
If its cheaper than the heavy variant for some missions then why not
Its only partially reusable anyway

>>15993795
You're late
>>15993709

>>15993270
got me for a second

>>15993762
Wonder what the cost is without the government subsidies.

>>15993822
You can get expendable launch vehicles to work economically if you can build them cheaply enough and launch them often enough. The problem is that reuseables will out complete you logistically, so you'll end up with a low cadence because lol no payloads. Your production line ends up working at maybe 5% capacity which drives your price all the way up and your problems start feeding off each other like a toxic relationship.

>>15993843
Probably not much more. The rocket looks cheap

>>15993479
Not many for a generic 0g space station.
>standard ISS docking mechanisms
>pressure vessels
>electrically actuated solar panels
All you really need a MechE for is fluid handling, designing the cupola, and materials selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_xKVx8tdx4
> Booster 12 Rolled Into Mega Bay 1 for Raptor Installation | SpaceX Boca Chica

>>15993717
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/01/here-is-how-ivo-quantized-inertia-drive-cubesat-works-and-a-follow-up-interstellar-probe-design.html
Blackpilled cuck, it will work because I believe it will.

>>15993871
It will not work

>>15993899
It held a pendulum against gravity in a vacuum chamber on Earth. Why wouldn't it work on orbit?

>>15993871
Where is the Gellar field device?

>>15993910
This is for moving through realspace, no Gellar Field needed.

>>15993909
>It held a pendulum against gravity in a vacuum chamber on Earth
it did not.
just like copper-lead alloy is not a superconductor.

>>15993909
>It held a pendulum against gravity in a vacuum chamber on Earth
>>15993923
>it did not.
Well, only one of you can be right. Who is it?
Anons, please show your work to the rest of the class so we can all learn together.

>>15993709
>S120 boosters
crazy how the PSLV has a S139 as a its core stage. so the strap on boosters for this are like an entire core stage of their existing rocket.

>>15993909
>>15993923
>>15993926
https://youtu.be/45E822mP59Q?feature=shared
Timestamp 8:27

I want to believe

>not doing any hops with the boosters

so like
still 5 years away from regular use huh

>>15993935
believe in what?

>>15993949
miracles

not to single out this person in particular, but what the absolute fuck is up with zoomers?
is this trend going to blow over at some point?

>>15993909
So did EmDrive in many claimed experiments. Until it got to a lab that knew what they were doing and took an objective view, then it magically stopped working. If the people testing it have a vested interest in seeing a positive result then their claims are basically worthless.

>>15993954
multi-track drifting, its like how this place has its fare share of unironic /pol/tards and fascist sympathizers too

>>15993954
this is the liberal agenda of 100 years now
and you think its just going to go away?

did any less immigrants arrive this year ?

>>15993954
or is this just an autism thing and previously it wasn't socially acceptable/trendy to flaunt your mental illnesses
like if you look back 30 years ago or something, autists weren't flaunting their mental illnesses? There was probably some other way to be attention seeking but maybe not

>>15993957
fair*

>>15993951
Do events with probability 0 count?

>>15993954
It's trendy in schools right now.

>>15993964
>reported thrust in vacuum with device switched on
>did null test in same vacuum with device switched off and got no thrust
>is in a vacuum right now

I don't think its 0 but it is infinitesimally small even still

>>15993959

>>15993959
There was a brief fad of media-induced anorexia in the mid to late 90s, middleschool and highschool girls (and college) were most effected.
Same shit different era.

>>15993973

>>15993957
>shittle in the middle
>choose one of faggotry, failure and flaming death or the right path
everything seems to be in order here

https://mylesbianworld.com/2023/02/24/gen-z-is-here-theyre-queer-and-right-wing-nuts-are-completely-freaking-out-about-it/

>>15993973
Incredible, a little social shaming is all it takes to correct lefthandedness in 50% of the lefthanded population. With a little more we could eradicate lefthandedness forever.

I like tall landers now

>>15993985
why stop there?

>>15993973
>>15993976
>>15993985
If you're not left handed you're not a spaceflight autist

>>15993974
The agenda has been 1 step at a time
If they didn't nuke all sense of community with mass immigration, how else could modern social groups be basically totally online

Everyone on fucking meds for some sorta mental problem.. This is the world the boomers wanted, remember that

>>15993954
It's a combination of standard adolescent insanity (present since the dawn of man) and the state of the world. I look at what's been going on, imagine myself 10 years younger during all that shit, and I know for certain that I'd be weirder than I already am. The world is changing so rapidly that I can't really blame them for disregarding reality when that same reality doesn't seem stable from day to day. It seems almost like a defense mechanism.
It also doesn't help that all the millennials in the education system are predatory enablers of all this stuff.

>>15994001
>Left-handers are overrepresented among those with lower cognitive skills and mental impairments, with those with intellectual disability being roughly twice as likely to be left-handed, as well as generally lower cognitive and non-cognitive abilities amongst left-handed children.

>>15994004
Explains Obama

>>15993954
What's the point of complaining about younger generations? They are a product of their environment, which in this case are propaganda in public schools and the internet.

>>15993983
>The only author on the entire page is "Uifs9"
>all of their Contact Us info is clearly bogus
This is what Elon was warning us about when he said AI was dangerous

>>15994008
I just posted that for a joke didn't even click the link, thats hilarious though, AI has absolutely overrun the net, SEO was a mistake and google is paying the price

>>15994008
>mylesbianworld.com
This is what God was warning us about when he said thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

>>15994006
I'm not complaining as such, I just hope this isn't some permanent thing, this isn't good for society
birthrates are below replacement already if a third of the people born remove themselves from the genepool through shit like this its not good

>>15994011
What if it's only retards and losers choosing effective celibacy?
If anything, this is going to get rid of gay retarded loser genes that were being protected for too long by social norms against degeneracy.

>>15993988
Moments before toppling

>>15994016
no retard flip for Nova-C

>>15994014
but is it only people like that? seems like a lot of young girls especially are getting brainwashed that are just going through teenage angst and such
previously they became emos or whatever, now they are cutting their tits off and taking hormones that make their voices permanently lower
and if they snap out of it a few years later, its too late, their bodies are permanently disfigured and they might have even made themselves infertile
you are correct that men that would have been social outcasts anyway starting to take hormones might not affect the gene pool too much, but percentages this high (15-20%) then you are going to have some damage anyway
and who knows how many "outcasts" would reform/bloom later in life? kind of harder to do that if you cut your dick off

>>15994016
it'll be alright though right? maybe when the sun moves it could hit the solar panels?

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/sierra-space-is-blowing-up-stuff-to-prove-inflatable-habitats-are-safe/

> The LIFE habitat's inflatable shell is primarily made of a material called Vectran. "This is a material which gives you high strength and low elasticity," Buckley said.
>According to Kuraray, a Japanese manufacturer of specialty chemicals, fibers, and resins, Vectran is a "high-performance multifilament yarn spun from liquid crystal polymer." Pound for pound, Vectran is five times stronger than steel and 10 times stronger than aluminum, Kuraray says on its website.
>Technicians mold the Vectran into straps, which are woven together to give the pressure shell the strength it needs to hold pressure in space, Buckley said. A series of threads, stitches, and tapes also make up the structure.

https://spacenews.com/blue-origin-gets-u-s-space-force-funding-for-new-glenn-integration-studies/
> The NSSL Phase 3 procurement is divided into two lanes: Lane 1 caters to lower-risk missions to lower orbits, while Lane 2 focuses on demanding missions to higher orbits, requiring certified launch vehicles and full mission assurance. The latter is where Blue Origin, with its New Glenn heavy-lift rocket, could aim to challenge incumbents SpaceX and United Launch Alliance.

>>15994025
I thought it powered down yesterday or the day before, but yeah maybe it'll come back on when the sun rises on it? I'm more interested in what became of the little ball rover, it deployed and I haven't heard shit about it since.

I saw Robert Zubrin today.

https://spacenews.com/orbit-fab-and-clearspace-to-develop-in-space-refueling-service/
> “Our initial goal is to put our Orbit Fab and ClearSpace hardware together, put it through its paces, and get that platform into orbit in the next two years,” Faber said.
> ClearSpace won a European Space Agency contract to remove a Vespa payload adapter from orbit. Under a U.K. Space Agency contract, ClearSpace is designing a mission to capture two inactive U.K. satellites.
>Orbit Fab, meanwhile, won a contract to provide hydrazine for the U.S. Space Force Tetra-5 spacecraft. The ClearSpace satellite for the U.K. ADR mission includes Orbit Fab’s RAFTI.

>>15994030
beam me up, Scotty

>>15994030
did he say anything interesting

>>15994029
I think they powered it down to wait for the sun to be in the right position.
The rovers supposedly deployed fine but I doubt they have a strong enough antenna to talk back to earth so they're waiting/hoping for the lander to come back on.

>>15994004
You're delusional.
Like 50% of geniuses or otherwise exceptional people are left handed.

>>15994032
>ClearSpace mascot

https://www.space.com/reflectors-in-space-increase-solar-farm-capacity
> Unlike proposals to build solar power stations in space and transmit energy down to earth, all the generation would still happen down here. Crucially, these reflectors could help solar farms generate electricity even when direct sunlight is not available, especially during evening and early morning hours when demand for clean energy is greatest. Colleagues and I call this concept “orbiting solar reflectors”.
> With the reflectors orbiting 900km above us – about twice the altitude of the International Space Station – we estimate that the illuminated area on the Earth would be approximately 10km across when at its brightest. Therefore, a system like this would not be aimed at individual rooftop solar panels but large solar power farms, typically located away from inhabited areas.
> Each pass would extend energy generation by about 15 to 20 minutes around the dawn or dusk hours. This is important because those hours are when electricity demand is the highest and often exceeds the amount being generated by wind and solar, meaning coal and gas power plants are used to compensate. Reflectors may therefore help abate fossil fuel use without needing to store energy during the day.

>>15992989
>only 111
fuck we're way behind schedule

>>15994038
Look it's fine that you're lefthanded and all, just keep it in your bedroom

https://europeanspaceflight.com/expansion-raises-e100m-to-invest-in-european-new-space-startups/
> Despite only just securing the first tranche of funding, Expansion has already invested around €30 million into 13 startups through a “warehousing structure” called Geodesic, which started to deploy capital towards the end of 2021.
> Notable companies currently supported by Expansion include launch startups Latitude and HyPrSpace, space transportation companies Space Cargo Unlimited and the Exploration Company, and space tourism company Zephalto. The fund also participated in Aldoria’s recently announced €10 million Series A funding round.

Whatever happened to the space drugs that were meant to be landing in aus after the faa told them they couldn't land in the us?

>>15994030
Edinburgh?

>>15994048
Smoked by aboriginals before the recovery crew could chase them off.

>>15994048
They've decided to let them reenter over FAA HQ to quote "send a message"

>>15993954
Educational institutions are corrupt politically and are indoctrinating kids like these as a form of rebellion against the what they consider a crusader against the normal/majority. Thats is basically, they want the capitals from the normal. The straight, the white, the cis, the normal, the prosperous, the hard working, the father, the mother, the marriage, the childbirth, etc/etc. I tell again and again that its nu-marxism because its exactly that. They just applied the notion of "capital" from just wealth to everything else in the world. The division thats bourne is natural product of the marxist ploy

https://spacenews.com/europe-weeks-away-from-finalizing-sovereign-broadband-proposal/
> Executives from Airbus Defence and Space, Thales Alenia Space, and Arianespace — part of a group of companies developing the Infrastructure for Resilience, Interconnectivity and Security by Satellite (IRIS2) constellation, discussed the project Jan. 23 at the European Space Conference in Brussels.
> Despite setbacks with Arianespace’s next-generation Ariane 6 rocket, recently causing Europe to lose independent access to space and lean on U.S.-based SpaceX, Kavvada said the plan is still to deploy IRIS2 with domestic rockets.
an internal launch market for european launch startups that should continue to require launches for the foreseeable future like starlink

@15994053

Meds

>>15994036
Was pretty interesting in general but there's no single bit that stood out. Had a few based moments like "fuck solar" and "fuck planetary protection".

>>15994056
Don't tell anon to take poison, what's wrong with you

>>15994028
Can't wait to see SpaceX forced to match Blue's pricing instead of ULA's.

>>15994049
yes

https://payloadspace.com/estimating-spacexs-2023-revenue/
> As you can see below, Payload’s revised 2023 estimate gets us to $8.721B of sales.
> Please note: Subscription revenue isn’t a simple total subscriber x cost per month calculation. We calculated it monthly with an assumed growth rate.

>>15994056
>>15993954
>These people exists
>point out how insane they are
>NOOO THEY DONT EXISTS!!!!
lmao. What drives these response?

>>15994054
>Still stuck in the mindset that internal european rocketry is viable
More money thrown to the wind. the US or China whoever will be dominant at the end of the century will still be more than happy to sell launches and grow economic ties with europe.

>>15992681
What?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

>>15992665
SpaceX has requested a modified launch license now, after submitting investigative report. We're now waiting on license from FAA.

On the launch site, they're reworking/bolstering some barriers that guard the tank farms with more concrete walls.

>>15994041
This would directly compete against battery storage. Doesn't seem very feasible.

>>15994101
Mylar inflatable mirrors are cheap. Look at the proposal for the solar moth, this was supposed to be expendable with LH2 monoprop.

>>15994041
>>15994101
>>15994107
>still pretending that synthetic natural gas won't entirely solve the storage problem
cope harder

>>15994041
Not to play the beetle's advocate, but shining a bunch of giant space spotlight down on a multi-kilometer target seems like the kind of thing that could have unintended environmental consequences.

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1750258596946796573

>>15994057
>fuck solar
lol why? not as good as nuclear?

REUSABLE ANGARA
It's happening for real
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1750234234541785545

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/01/dark-matter-theory-versus-quantized-inertia-theory.html

>>15994128
Maybe they should focus on getting it to lift payloads into proper orbits first? Just throwing out ideas here.

>>15994036
when has he ever, to he dësú

>>15994130
someone explain this shit I still don't get it, and am also reluctant to dive deep into a theory that may just get debunked by its own experiment in a month

>>15994129
As long as you have fuel, you have nuclear energy. Solar on the other hand is not a reliable or storable source of energy.

>>15994133
"Dark Matter" = theory to make up for the mass and gravity of black holes while seemingly ignoring their existence.

>>15994128
It's not, but it's not a bad idea. With a single RD-191 at minimum throttle a cluster of five URM-1 modules plus landing gear would have a thrust-mass ratio of less than 1, which would mean that it wouldn't need to perfect Falcon 9's hoverslam.

The problem is that this is planning on using a downrange barge landing, and Russia doesn't have the easily means of getting something this size from Vladivostok back to Vostochny. It also seems to need a hydrogen upper stage, which is something Russia's had a lot of issues with in the past and doesn't have any infrastructure to support currently.

TIL Atlas Series 400 had Spanish-made (CASA/Astrium) interstage

Where is the startup working on nuclear space tugs?

>>15994133
Very crudely: Inertia is caused by quantum waves pushing against objects, and quantum waves are naturally dampened in certain directions because of horizons, this dampening explains why galaxies stick together when they should scatter. (The previous explanation for this was dark matter)
Since the waves can be dampened, we can exploit this by dampening them artifically with electromagnets, if we dampen in one direction we get thrust in that direction, allowing us to get thrust without fuel, by pushing against the waves

>>15994117
Syngas and night time reflector generators are complementary, you can keep driving synthesis plants at night or just burn less stored gas.

>>15994156
To clarify this anon's point, the Unruh radiation bath is the same in all directions except when damped by mass (this causes gravity) or by acceleration (damped in one direction, intensified in another, this causes inertia). The reason quantum events don't seem to obey gravity is that unless the waves coalesce into actual photons, quantum scale events literally don't have gravity.

>>15994130
That is laughable. What's missing is the long list of stuff which MOND cannot explain, like the fluctuations in the CMB, lensing, like the bullet cluster or clusters in general. Things which McCulloch totally promises he can explain but you can see any of the details.

>>15994133
It's "predictions" for galaxy dynamics have already been falsified, with wide binaries.
The paper McCulloch wrote on the topic just copied old data which made the mistake of just averaging over all the objects. But if one looks at the actual distribution it looks nothing like MOND without the EFE (which is what QI copies). People are still arguing about GR vs MOND, but QI is just way off.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2024MNRAS.527.4573B/abstract
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019MNRAS.488.4740P/abstract

>>15994156
Ok I kind of get it now and since they recorded thrust in a vacuum chamber with the drive and electromagnets switched on but recorded no thrust with the same vacuum experiment setup but electromagnet switched off then it should lead to measurable thrust in space I see

>>15994160
>quantum scale events literally don't have gravity.
Lmao, so much for the theoretical physicists dreams of unifying gravity and quantum mechanics,
>muh theory of everything

>>15994161
Ok but is there any way this drive could still work as advertised and be revolutionary without relying on QI?

>>15994163
it could be producing aparrent force through distortion of spacetime

>>15994050
lol
they thought it was petrol

>>15994163
Not according to known physics, no.

>>15994185
Unknown physics then

>I'm a habitually overly-cautious guy. However, I'm now sure after 19 yrs work, 25 peer reviewed papers, three books, #DARPA funding & five positive lab tests, that #quantisedinertia is valid & can give us new quantum energy, thrust & travel to Proxima in a human lifetime.

>>15994038
lmao, you are assblasted
did you think I just came up with that on my own?

>>15994046
I prefer "wronghanded", "perverse" or "sinister".

>>15994163
Not based on the way Mansell is describing the way they did their null-thrust tests. Either he's lying or QI works.

>>15994217
We'll know soon enough

>>15994218
>>15994217
Mike McCullough just flew over my house!

>>15994192
Nobody can answer that. But conservation of momentum seems like an unlikely law to be overturned.

>>15994163
Trust the chudience
https://nitter.1d4.us/memcculloch/status/1743306373058760952#m

>>15994223
Fuck lawfags, its time for chaoschads to rule

>>15994214
Left just ain't right

>>15994225
From the quote tweet above that he replied to:
>hiding the true nature of the universe, including what forces are driving everything, and how we came to be here. This includes the secret to free energy, and how they are keeping the world in a form of slavery
>- his work is one of the foundational pillars that is making them look for a dark matter and other strange particles, and building the large collider’s, which are actually attempted portals for inter-dimensional interaction; they needed the excuse to build them
The elite inteligencia Mike is engaging with on Twitter. Pseudoscience and conspiracy theories are birds of a feather.

>>15994223
It's an extension of the conservation law to mass-energy-information, not total deletion of CoM.

>>15994243
When government, industry, and academia develop credibility problems, society loses its bullshit filter. If you want to suppress conspiracy theories about pseudoscience try not proving the ones about ethnic replacement correct.

>>15993518
commercial flanges aren't bad but Navy flanges are hell
they're kind of heavy though

>>15994251
And what is the equation which describes this conservation law? How is information quantified?

>>15993709
please understand they must do the needful and support their ICBM manufacturers

So how hard will /sci/ collectively seethe once QI is proven to be true? Actually I think /sci/ might be the least seething and most accepting, reddit will definitely lose their shit

>>15993709
Personally I'd do a solid first stage and a fuel-rich staged combustion Methalox upper stage.

>>15993957
I will drop rocks on the fascists

>>15994276
Why attempt to inject artificial outrage and strife here, what's the point. If it works, neat. If not, too bad. Quit being a faggot.

>>15994283
Bored

>>15994276
>how hard will /sci/ seethe once LK-99 is proven to be a room temperature superconductor
Reddit won't lose their shit because they don't have any shit left to lose

>>15994276
No real /sfg/ poster would be mad SF tier magic propulsion. If QI ends up being real it's literal colonize the stars level tech. If QI is real I'm popping the champagne, quitting my job, and working for a company building QI thrusters. It's not real, though.

>>15994288
oh yeah LK-99 is not out of the fight yet either now known as PCPOSOS (sulphur dopped)

>>15994290
I will sell a bunch of assets and raise money to found that company if it happens.

>>15994120
that's why we need to focus it down to a few dozen square meters

>>15994299
*centimers
*specifically the FAA

>>15994276
A. it won't be proven true
B. if it works it's time for spaceplanes
C. I fucking love spaceplanes

I have no love for current physics but I think conservation of momentum is an unlikely law to be overturned

>>15994301
A. if you use a big enough mirror the desired effect will be reached regardless
B. atmospheric distortion will bloom out your death ray no matter what so there's no point in going below a certain size

>>15994299
You're still going to get scatter. I'm just wondering how much secondary illumination the area outside the target is going to get.

>>15994301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMxVBY70dPU
You know, I think I've seen something like this before

>>15994303
If QI works then spaceplanes with roll in/out solar arrays and beamed power are the optimal way to do mass interplanetary travel, which is hilarious. You'd only need QI/NEP for explorer ships to set up the nuclear fed transport laser stations around moons and dwarf planets in the outer system, or for warships, or for a semi generation ship to Alpha Centauri.

>Ctrl+F QI
>12 results
shut the fuck up star trek child predator. the satellite is decaying as you speak.

>>15994328
It hasn't been turned on yet.

>>15994333
And it never will because it doesn't actually do anything.

>>15994016
#6 needs this

QI will succeed, and if it doesn't some other magic space drive will someday. The Earth was never big enough for us.

>>15994041
>oops our mirror guidance system screwed up

>>15994328
single stage to orbit electric spaceplanes running on over-unity QI power
>>15994347
not enough fire

>>15994060
Body Odor would need a working orbital launch system first.

>>15994346
>I want things to be easy
You're a faggot. You don't have the right stuff.
You don't desire hardship.
Both fission and fusion do not violate the laws of physics.
God is not going to help you any further.

>>15994340
It produced thrust in the lab and the theory works out. We are going to Alpha Centauri within the century. Rumor is they will turn it on 2 weeks from today.

>>15994352
>I want things to be hard
You're a poseur. You've never had the right stuff.
You don't want things to be done.
You will be left in the dust.

>>15994354
>It produced thrust in the lab

No it didn't.

What would QI ships look like anyways

Does anyone remember dynamic soaring on the solar magnetisphere

>>15994355
Extremely pathetic

>>15994358
Please refer to the .gif in the previous post I think it will quell your doubts.

>>15994354
lol stupid frogposter

>>15994368
How do you get in

>>15994368
Based submarine murder rapist associated company planning to kill more people.

>>15994369
through the hatch

>>15994367
Gtfo only trannies hate frogs

>>15994360
Because it's purely electric there isn't any exhaust so it could just be a cube or a sphere or a flying saucer.

>>15994372
nigger

https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/1750292532423004653

how about being stuck in this at 100km up

>>15994376
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2024/01/24/nasa-boeing-move-into-next-phases-of-flight-test-prep/

>>15994377
there's worse ways to die, believe me darling

>>15994360
lots of solar panels

>he's ACTUALLY doing it
Elon is a god amongst men
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWTAYQZOFs

SpaceX bought a 737

I found life in your ass

>>15994388
ah yes, spaceflight

>>15994393
Always in the last place you look

>>15994394
In a lot of ways Starship is a safer bet than FSD was.
The spaceflight industry needs to prepare for the "hype" and "exaggerations" of the one who shall not be named to become reality.
Every day they're not EXPECTING Starship to lower the cost to LEO by 100x is shooting another one of their legs off.

>>15994399
Even if they were only expecting a 2x that'd make all their current plans obsolete except MAYBE Vulcan and New Glorp.

why was the apollo EVA suit so aesthetic?
Whatever shit they fly on fartemis will look nasty.

>>15994413
eh, the apollo suits had severely limited mobility

>>15994413
>>15994415
the future will be spandex spacesuits, and I'll hate it

>>15994418
I'm going to cover my spacesuit in body fitting ceramic rifle plates and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>15994413
for me its Gemini

Lunar hamster balls so you don't have to get changed to go roll around on the moon.

>>15994421
hell yeah wrap me in aluminum foil and throw me out the airlock, daddy

BOMB SQUAD COMING THROUGH

>>15994425
Are you man enough to work through a micrometeoroid shower?

>>15994422
Just make these into rovers at that point

>>15994418

Which one of you paid for this video?

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=65a178da80892

>>15994428
But then you wouldn't get any exercise from it

>>15994354
>two weeks

>>15994453
Nigger weeks

>>15994154
regulatory hurdles are too large

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1750319218674024636
> Largest interior volume in a standalone spacecraft, ever. Human shown for scale, plus 53 more

look at it goooo!

>>15994490
Stop giving the flatcels the ammo they want retard

>>15994128
I still think that abandoning Energia-M is a mistake. Soviet/Russia already spend much in developing RD-170 and RD-0120 to just discard it. They can even make the booster into a flyback one in the future.

>>15994505
You're underestimating how bad the collapse was in the 90s. This would have been completely beyond them.

>>15994490
moon confirmed female

>>15994536
Very homosexual of the artist to put a tranny on the right.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1750358106536902830

haven't listened to it yet but the random spot I clicked he was talking about optimus, but the text talks about hitting SpaceX
probably no new info though but I'm gonna listen to it anyway and say if there is anything

Realistically, what will Russian American collaboration in spaceflight look like after the ISS is bye bye?

>>15994354
the trvthnvke that saved the 'general

>>15994555
Russian will be collaborating with China from now on. India will be the replacement for Russia. You joke but Indians are good at producing functional stuff with 10% of the budget. It is a better partner than the volatile Russians.

>>15994562
do the russians have anything to offer the chinese realistically?

>>15994566
Land, resources, and women. This will not be a good decade to be Russian.

>>15994540
obsessed

>>15994540
possessed

>>15994566
>do the country that dominates all front in space exploration except putting a man on the moon has anything to offer to a new startup called China?

>>15994580
dominates? maybe 70 years ago lmao

>>15994578
Kys troon
>>15994579
Lys ghost

>>15994561
that's a lithium rocket

>>15994594
>implying that a ghost would want to stay dead
holy fail

>>15994599
if I was a ghost I'd go haunt Mars that would be real neato.

>>15994600
how does a ghost perform a trans martian injection burn?

>>15994602
Ghosts use antigravity propulsion.

>>15994602
ghost rocket obviously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U61i0wN01Uk
JAXA press conference on SLIM, live in about 45 minutes

>>15994562
>Russian will be collaborating with China
China only wants submissive partners and Russia has too much pride to be anything less than an equal. The only thing Russia had worth bargaining with was its propulsion tech, and China's interest in bargaining for that fell through in 2016. They haven't caught up yet to Russia's skill with staged combustion but they're not far off.

>>15994607
>sent a shoe box to moon
>communicate to the Earth for 45 minutes before shutting down
YES NIHONJIN LANDED ON MOON
MOONLANDER FOLDED 1000 TIMES

>>15994602
Spookily

>>15994613
hey man I just want the pictures it took

>>15994615
I just wanna know what the lil ball rover did, that cueball has my attention.

>>15994613
Same energy as
>landed way off the mark from the south pole
>rover died after 1 lunar day
YES POO FINALLY FOUND LOO IN THE SOUTH POLE OF MOON
THE REAL SOUTH POLE ISRO BEST SPACE AGENCY

>>15994613
>>15994620
The over-enthusiasm is a bit eyerolling, but at the same time I AM happy to see it. If (you) somehow got a smallsat to touch down on the moon you'd be jumping up and down too, so would I.