/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15910856
*mRNA vaxxed

>>15910856
>confirms the vaxxed have destroyed their immune systems
>"no adverse outcomes reported from mistranslation of mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines in humans"

>>15910877
>reported
you literally have frameshift errors lmao

>>15910887
>you literally have frameshift errors lmao
of the transcribed spike. which as described "elicits off-target cellular immune responses" by error rate noted of ~8% so less effective than it otherwise would be. "Alongside this impact on host T cell immunity, the off-target effects of ribosomal frameshifting could include increased production of new B cell antigens." oh noes the world will end.
amounts to "contributes to error rate in transcription wasting body resources by some percent that might otherwise have been useful if on-target instead of off-target". world isn't ending.

>>15910877
You obviously cannot criticise covid mRNA vaxx, you'd be out of job if you do.

>>15910902
this is literally criticizing it. transcription frameshift is something to avoid for better efficacy and reduce chance of other downstream effects if any.
they seem to still have a job.

>>15910906
I meant you can't *directly* criticise it. Otherwise theyd have said "our results might indicate COVID vaxx may also generate frame shifted proteins, which could have unintended effects. However, further study is required to quantify these effects". Instead they had to write "modified bases causes frame shifting, but this doesn't apply to COVID vax"

>>15910902
Indeed. Unless you have actually compelling evidence in which case you'd get a Nobel prize. But you know this won't happen because the vaccine is safe, so you have to glue another cope on top of your cope and pretend this is rational. :))))))))))

>>15910908
>can't directly criticize
literally talking about the BNT162b2 vaccine. Directly. Directly criticizing it.
"For example, clinically approved SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines incorporate N1-methylpseudouridine (1-methylΨ), which has been shown to decrease IVT mRNA innate immunogenicity3,4,5. Some modified ribonucleotides, such as 5-methylcytidine (5-methylC), are naturally occurring post-transcriptional mRNA modifications in eukaryotes, whereas others are not, such as 1-methylΨ (refs.6,7,8,9,10)."
and figure 1 tests a bunch of these. that are in use. in the vaccine. you utter dipshit.
>which could have unintended effects
yeah? they could. depends on what ends up happening. in this case very little "Notably, translation efficiency of each mRNA was equal, which suggests that no mutation adversely affected mRNA translation overall, but solely +1 ribosomal frameshifting activity (Fig. 4d)."
the earth-shattering revelation that "it impacts host T cell immunity and could increase production of new B cell antigents" oh the horror. But important to avoid because it *could* be worse.

just another thing to check on an already ridiculously long list of things. as usual /pol/ was wrong and so are you.

>>15910914
>pulling the trigger with a round in one of the six chambers could kill me
>better do it

>>15910919
cope and seethe
recapping,
>VACCINE DESTROYS IMMUNE SYSTEM!
no it just has a thing that makes for needless errors but doesn't seem to do much else
>you can't criticize vaccines though!
this is literally criticizing an actively used vaccine component
>B-BUT NOT DIRECTLY
yes directly
>OH YEAH? WELL THERE'S STILL A RISK!
sure. it's just orders of magnitude lower than 1/6 but thanks for showing how dishonest and deranged you are schizo

Nobody ever claimed the vaccine was 100% safe. They claimed it was safer than the virus it prevents, which it is.

>>15910926
>t. corporate cocksucker

>>15910934
>this assmad that all i did was read the fucking source material
sucks to suck maybe try reading at least what you post beforehand so you don't come off as a retard. or heaven forbid maybe read similar papers and try to understand context in the broader literature too. maybe even, gasp, honestly investigate something for once?

>>15910941
>t. corporate bootlicker

>>15910943
>intellectual honesty is bootlicking
yeah see and that's the whole problem with /pol/tards
you're a bunch of dishonest degenerates so you are convinced everyone else has to be too because your heads live up your own asses

>>15910943
>t. poltard who has never stepped into a university nor read a textbook about biology, let alone a scientific paper

>>15910914
This is not the direct criticism that anon is talking about, because this is not a criticism at all. Transcription like frameshitting is bad, but pointing this out is not an objection of the vaccines and is actually welcome by the makers due to peripherals. Traditional science is still necessary to find errors, and pharmaceutical companies make note of novel discoveries to use in their internal company courts. If you didn’t already know, corporations like Pfizer have their own internal committee entities to govern the body in a litigative fashion, and they use external information to help shape their decisions, such as this finding.

When he talks about criticism, you cannot reject the premise that vaccines are safe or in any adjacent to it within a professional setting in the relative industries.

You’re just being pedantic and pitiful.

>>15910956
>This is not the direct criticism that anon is talking about
i'm well aware he meant a hugbox of antivaxx bullshit
>When he talks about criticism, you cannot reject the premise that vaccines are safe
you mean the metric tons of evidence demonstrating their relative safety? yeah you kind of need good reason to discount it and antivaxxer "nuh uh" mysteriously doesn't fly among people who want evidence. i wonder why that is?
>You’re just being pedantic and pitiful.
you rush to his defense and invent a definition of "criticism" where it is only valid if it agrees with you
and you call me pitiful

holy shit i am going to die laughing

>>15910943
Ah yes, back to
>bu bu but you're clearly just a shill!
whenever you have no response to an argument. Fucking pathetic. /sci/ could be a slow board (like it should be) if it weren't for your obnoxious vaccine and climate change spam.

>>15910948
>>15910954
>>15910961
>t. asshurt bootlicker

>>15910964

>>15910959
I’m calling you pitiful because you argued with him based entirely on the wrong foundations that he advocated for in the first place, essentially posting nothing relevant to the actual topic context at all. Then you take sardonic insecurity alongside that? That’s pitiful and retarded, lol.

>>15910982
>based entirely on the wrong foundation
"stop using words in ways that aren't premised on greeing with me!" jesus christ the fucking cope
>essentially posting nothing relevant to the actual topic context at all
you mean all those times i quoted the paper pointing out it doesn't imply what op claims it implies? yeah couldn't possibly be relevant i don't know what i was thinking
>Then you take sardonic insecurity alongside that? That’s pitiful and retarded, lol.
i'm quite confidently sardonic because you are a waste of oxygen and it is funny to me. what's pitiful is trying this ridiculous narcissistic projection dance instead of addressing a single shred of evidence or empirical point all on the basis of
>noooo criticism means you have to agree vaccines aren't safe or it doesn't count
un
fucking
real

>>15910994
Sardonicism is derived from insecurity, which derives from attached fear. If you revel in acting this way, it’s reflective outwardly of your personal shortcomings and lack there of. As to your response I glanced over it; the stance of my three posts is that you attacked a non position that was not made by the poster you responded toward and shat up the thread with your own “narcissism” in order to win some perceived slight the other poster “made”. There are eight other posters here, at least implied, you can’t claim all of them are op - unless you’re retarded.

Very simply I’ve seen you in other threads being ridiculously flamboyant and it is this impasse of data acceptance that will not allow this to go further for those who are for vaccines, and against. There is plenty of data available to showcase injury rate and the internet has done an outstanding job connecting the purposely obfuscated data reluctantly provided by governments about injury and death, specifically the massive uptick in cancers.
You clearly won’t accept any data that is contradictory to the safeness or effectiveness of vaccines, so there is no point in continuing this conversation with you. Have a nice day.

>>15911002
>bla bla bla projection bla bla bla
i still can't get over you trying to argue the only valid meaning of criticism must reject vaccines being safe. fucking kek
>There is plenty of data available to showcase injury rate
VAERS and lots of meaningless correlations that when examined more carefully are not attributable to vaccination or, if they are, are mostly minor with very low incidence rate that quickly resolves. like a sore shoulder.
>internet has done an outstanding job connecting the purposely obfuscated data
"I can't understand it therefore it's purposely obfuscated"
can't relate anon
>massive uptick in cancers
let's just assume this is true for sake of argument. what does post hoc ergo propter hoc prove? oh right. nothing.
>You clearly won’t accept any data that is contradictory to the safeness or effectiveness of vaccines
source: your ass. you're upset i'm very familiar with the data and how it doesn't agree with you is what your issue is. feel free to post sources i bet i can prove it.
sources so far: 0

>>15911008
>posts exactly how I expected
For the sake that you still made an effort post, I will post one last time and note that I think you’re decently intelligent and probably believe in what you’re arguing. For the record I am more concerned about the transcription of dna and the implication of generational impact, specifically fertility, and whether malicious intent was possible to deliver a payload against reproduction. Myself aside, what I will not do is engage with you intimately on this matter because at its heart this is clearly impassable for you regardless of how you might protest this observation. It’s an indicator externally from how you act, not how you feel internally that it’s unfair. We can delude ourselves and make bold open sentiment without allowing sincerity when the time comes. Though to be fair, many of those who might detract from you are the exact same way. Without a personal intermedium, public discourse tends to play out this way - rigid and ultimately meaningless. But I am not posting to win any lurking observer, I am posting specifically at you because although I disagree with your foundations, you make effort, and that’s commendable and should be pointed out.

I will leave you with a query, though. If there are less than a dozen individuals within the genetic and adjacent industries who can sufficiently understand the required compound makeup of what was injected, and how to get a payload delivered to certain areas of the body without municipal or governing detection, what is the conclusion except one of eugenic precedence? To negligently defend the vaccines outside of what should be defended is antithetical to highlighting any actors with ill or malicious intent. Whether throughout vaccine pre-production, or ongoing process now and into the future, questioning these mechanisms and systems is a good thing.

>>15911022
>still no sources
i give you one job anon. you had one job.
>unironically arguing vaccine is mass genetic engineering conspiracy
meds. way to bring down the mood asshole you actually may be schizophrenic. get help.

>>15911027
nta and I'm not convinced it's some weird therapy so plebs drop faster when billionaires become immortal but I'm not discounting it like you do, because I really have no fucking idea, and you can't either. it just sound preposterous but dude, you don't KNOW, really.
the whole idea with chaos and entropy is that such shits are possible, no matter how improbable they might seem. literally science says it's possible. I mean cmon, just think, it is technically possible, there's no law of nature to fucking forbid such a thing.
what you are actually saying is "I know it's possible but I don't think tptb would do such a thing", which is completely different.
all I'm saying is that I'm not discounting it

>>15911033
>because I really have no fucking idea, and you can't either
i do though and i can explain why, though what part needs explaining depends on why someone believes it.
>it is technically possible
it is not possible the whole world of scientists and nations would not notice or be in on it. that's just flat earther levels of global conspiracy schizophrenia. Plus given the lack of dose-response relationship you're now approaching "magic technology" that somehow time activates so as to not be noticeable for YEARS or without additional triggering event, evades everybody's immune system, and lots of things like that. while some viruses can manage these things, that's not on the order of what human engineered cells and viruses can do yet and said viruses get detected. both by the immune system as well as by modern medical technology, and are visible in serum samples too doing more recent electron microscopy.
>all I'm saying is that I'm not discounting it
and in addition to all that it would somehow have to evade all detection from everything, current electron microscopy and all, worldwide, in all samples. so the government has secret femtomachines? because people would've found nanites. the premise and complexity requires, essentially, either worldwide conspiracy among all relevant scientists and governments OR technology indistinguishable from magic.

point is i do have some fucking idea and that was the short version

>>15911044
>"magic technology"
listen dude, you're conflating the vax having a shit effect, like causing a random defect or something, and a tool engineered to affect your dna and make you a fucking pig.
say you study that shit, you test it, and you see it causes some kind of harm later on as some retarded side-effect or something, and go with that, as opposed to some alien tech fuckery where two generations later you turn into something quite specifically designed. there's plenty of weaponizable mistakes

>>15910877
*puts a quarter in the /pol/ keeps lying and doubling down jar*

>>15911053
well no as i said there isn't a dose-response relationship there. you'd see infertility skyrocket based on vaccination rates, independent of infection and severity of infection, and uniquely different from the non-vaccinated. not a thing. so if you don't have magic technology then the idea is just falsified by the lack of that dose-response relationship, lack of an effect.

>>15911057
dude give me that jar i could buy a fucking yacht and become a billionaire investing it that's a fucking gold mine right there
or buy a pony
FOR PONY!

>>15910954
>appeal to authority
its as much as admitting your own ignorance

>>15911290
>having certified knowledge, training and experience in the field you screech about is appealing to authority
lmao sure poltard. Sorry but dropping out of HS is not a sign of being smart and having nothing to show to back up the arguments you love so dearly such as virology just means you are a moron nobody who should shut his mouth and try and listen to people smarter and more knowledge than him. That's how learning works, sorry chud, the retard won't teach the sapient.

>>15910856
>Put another quarter in the ‘pol was right’ jar
unfortunately a jew stole it
is there a scientific reason that /scipol/ is always right even though real /pol/ is a pozzed psyop shithole?

>>15911290
It's crazy how much you guys seethe when people don't immediately fall for your idiocy

>>15910856
/pol/ told me that I can’t trust nature because they said orange man bad. Does this thread mean that nature is good and orange man in fact bad?

>>15911700
Orange man is bad but for other reasons.

>>15910856
The pfizer autoinmune disease

What a cool name for not really aids

>>15910856
Trump lost Ivan.

>>15910856
smells like speed of science.

btw are extra mortality rates in usa and eu still up, or have they been slowing down? i havent seen any fresh stats to see if the kill shot is 1 time and die or permanent 1 time and keep dying?

>>15911835
Eventually excess deaths become baseline deaths.

>>15911703
For inventing the vaccine? For keeping Fauci in office? For pissing on the poor?

>>15911927
I was never concerned enough about vaxxies to consider their deaths to be excessive to begin with

>>15910959
we've gone from stays at the injection site and expresses on the outside of the cell and is short lived to goes everywhere, detectable in the blood a year later, IgG4 Antibodies after repeated vaccination and now it makes random proteins.

I guess relative is a good word for it..

>>15910856
>pol sees headline
>sounds bad but no idea about anything
>posts in sci, pushes up glasses
Heh, looks like the vaxxies are dead for sure THIS time

Swedish trail runner Emilia Brangefalt, 21, dies by suicide, days after posting 'maybe I won't be back' on Instagram after being diagnosed with 'extremely high heart rate' which stopped training

'Just taking a walk is painful right now,' Brangefalt wrote. 'Have been to the hospital and visit the medical over 20 times but every single blood test/ ekg/ cycle test is good. Still my body is super stressed although I have given it so much love the past months’.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-12783281/Swedish-trail-runner-21-suicide.html

Typical victim of mRNA bioweapon. She had a strong heart btw. Most jabbed athletes just die from sudden cardiac arrest before they have a chance to go into this mode.

>It works because... BECAUSE IT JUST DOES, OKAY?

>>15910913
If it's safe, then why are there ongoing studies?

>>15910856
I was told it's an allergic reaction the PEG molecules that coat the lipid nanoparticles.

>>15911737
No but zelensky is heavily losing

stop shitting up this learned board with vaxxie shit. they may not even be human anymore after all the dna altering shit. just leave them to their own devices, maybe they will be okay, maybe they won't. the vaxcattle don't care, why do you?

>>15912386
/pol/ sees the headlines of articles in Nature because /po/ reads scientific journals.
you don't do that, but /pol/ does

>>15912834
/pol/ was a much more sophisticated board back in the days before reddit trannys and other political activists flooded into the board to try and ruin it, but the OG /pol/ users who still remain are some of the most sophisticated observers on the planet. they're far better informed than the soigoy university children on this board

>>15910908
It's funny because it's also involving specifically the pseudouridine modification that got those two people the Nobel prize lol.

>>15912380
I still don't get how they expected it to stay at the injection site. Something you inject goes everywhere? That would be my assumption from the very beginning lol. How did they justify that again?

>>15911526
Kill yourself pseud

>>15913561
kill yourself, uneducated nobody.
You have no degree, no house, no land, no car, no loved one, no caring family, no chance at reproducing. Stay this way for the greater good, thx bye.

>>15913753
>You have no degree, no house, no land, no car, no loved one, no caring family, no chance at reproducing.
same

>>15911737
>>>/pol/

>>15913177
>they're far better informed than the soigoy university children on this board
soigoy university children are busy people, they have to spend hours every day playing video games and they're also to obligated to putting in their time looking at porno and masturbating and they need to keep up on their daily viewing of children's cartoons too and they also need to be curating their social media profiles several times a day, so as you can see theres not much time left over to keep abreast of current events

>>15913557
>I still don't get how they expected it to stay at the injection site.
they didn't. every 'expert' involved had access to information about LNPs, they should have known they were highly evasive and capable of reaching everywhere in the body to transfect any cell, that was one of the key points of LNP technology and the basis for several drug candidates that targeted specific internal organs. additionally, Pfizer knew for certain that the 'vaccine' was not staying at the injection site due to their commissioned Japanese rodent study done in late 2020 that was dug up with a FOI request. they most certainly knew, and tried to cover it up later by blaming heart issues on nurses injecting into the bloodstream (which certainly can happen, especially as the official administration guidance rejected aspiration).

>>15913557
what good would that have done since covid was supposedly a respiratory infection? its not like they were injecting people in the lungs

>>15910877
>>15910877
>Reported
How the fuck is a patient going to self report replication errors?
Uh, doctor my mitosis doesn't feel right.

>>15916691
>How the fuck is a patient going to self report replication errors?
that is quite possibly the new single dumbest question i have ever seen in my life

anon they mean reported in the research associated with this error. not a patient report you fucking dipshit. how could you misunderstand everything so fucking bad you come up with THAT question? HOW? i am now a believer in eugenics we can't let you breed

>>15910933
Its not consider the frequency of hospitalization in most demographics.

>>15916695
>>15916691
hey dumb question anon. are all my ribsomes exact copies? how similar and what is the variance between populations? does age play a role? they isolated this process in vitro but exponentially more errors can occur in a complex system. one implies to other. and his point stands because significant data was intentionally obfuscated.

>>15910856
>Put another quarter in the ‘pol was right’ jar
Gentlepeople, please!
Obvious troll TROLLING OUTSIDE OF /B/ is obvious.

>>15910913
>But you know this won't happen because the vaccine is safe

It's so safe, that billions were invested to ensure nobody talks about something bad happening.
It's so safe, that globohomos who constantly brag about downpopulationg earth, invest in media campaigns to coerce people into taking the product.
It's so safe, that they had to update adverse events mutiple times, for heart or coagulation problems.
It's so safe, that if a doctor noootices something fishy in temporal relationship with the admistration of the vaccine, they have to fear losing their jobs.
It's so safe, that if you slightly questioned it, doctors and politicans went haywire and pulled every denunciation trick possible.
A product so safe that still to this day, people pretend like the shit between 2021-2022 didn't happened.

>>15917001
>science articles published in nature trigger me
you're on the wrong board if science makes you angry

>>15916998
>they isolated this process in vitro but exponentially more errors can occur in a complex system.
As quoted there are presently no reported adverse outcomes attributable to it. That is not just by some narrow focused "only this exact one", but in general of the broader literature of such +1 ribosomal frameshifting. I haven't taken any classes related to immune function in a very long time so if I get a detail wrong feel free to correct me.

Put simply the body then produces some degree of immune response looking for something that doesn't exist, and if you're going to develop additional problems merely because of that you've got far bigger things to worry about like prior existing autoimmunity. None of which would be caused by "some fraction of immune response looking for a ghost variant of a particular piece of a virus". Which is why it makes sense to have pointed out there are no reported adverse outcomes associated with this frameshift of the mRNA, and while not impossible I think it more likely to win the lottery ten times over.

Now here's the really stupid thing about all of this. It is so astronomically unlikely, and yet odds are it will also be included on the list of things to test and evaluate anyway "just in case". That is how proactive these developments and the scientists tend to be with respect to safety concerns. Instead, this is being twisted into what it isn't, lied about, and somehow in your mind represents "a problem" rather than evidence people are doing their best and honestly publishing what they find however minimal the risk of it would seem to be.

Scientists: Publish an inefficiency in vaccine with no known adverse consequences, just an abstract "possibility" for one
Anti-vaxxers: SEE! PROOF VACCINE BAD

If you can't see how stupid that is I encourage more of you to refuse medical care in the hopes you all die sooner and save the rest of us from suffering your existence.

>>15918248
https://www.writingtoiq.com/ says your IQ is only 112 so I didn't read your post

>>15919185
So you're saying I didn't make it simple enough for the retards to understand? Dang. Fair enough.

>>15911700
>>>/pol/

>>15910856

>>15919272
imagine a 112 IQ calling other people retards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHv3_iDldM

>>15910933
It doesn't prevent any viruses

>>15910856
AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS
EVERYBODY HAS
A I D S !
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvRoX959WIBH/

I didn't get the vaxx and I'm smug about that.

>>15912535
who told you that and what was their last name?

>>15923807
is that just the same question twice?

>>15922162
Dump people say dumb things, when a 112 IQ posts, its gonna be a dumb post.

>>15910919
Nothing in this paper suggests this is dangerous or deadly. I know you desperately want the vaccine apocalypse to happen, but it isn't going to.

>>15923800
good video, 4chan needs bitchute embeds, youtube is gay and worthless

>>15926847
Wrong, it says that mrna vaccines are both dangerous and deadly.

Remdesivir.

>>15917056

>>15910856
/pol/ can be right about vibes, but /pol/tards don't know shit about science.
>muh prions! because there's heckin' proteins in the vax!

>>15930350
/pol/ has better science threads than /sci/ does

>>15930869
>>>/pol/
There ya go happy trails to ya can't wait to never see you again.

>>15930316
Wow, Pfizer owns literally every significant mainstream news outlet

>>15912731
Keep coping vatty, ignoring reality comes naturally to you

>>15931999
And they did it using your tax dollars.

>>15932219

>>15933426
Post hand with timestamp

>>15933441
post foreskin

>>15912731
>>>/pol/

>>15932184
They used money printer output to make their purchase, I don't pay taxes

>>15934234
I can't because I'm jewish

>>15935777
>I don't pay taxes
based

>>15912746

/pol/ stopped being right quite so often now that its overrun with reddit fags, trannys, glowniggers and other interlopers

>>15938964
Maybe, but /pol/ was clearly correct about the info in OP, /pol/ was publishing that information over 3 years before Nature got around to it.

>didn't get the vax
>find out I was born with an ORT
>heart's fucked anyhow
>had to have an ablation
Thanks a lot, /pol/

Leftist who took all those vaxxes sure seems pissy ITT lol

>>15930869
Sort of. There are times when the best science posters there are far beyond the quality of anything posted here. But the worst of what's posted there is far worse than the worse of what's posted here. It appears that true experts are more likely to wander into a thread there than here where it's mostly students and lab grunts.

>>15910964
Give up already

>>15936605
oof

>>15918248
>Which is why it makes sense to have pointed out there are no reported adverse outcomes associated with this frameshift of the mRNA
bro you know exactly why this statement was included and if you dont then there is no hope for you

>some fraction of immune response looking for a ghost variant of a particular piece of a virus
almost...
some variant with enough similitude to cause an auto-immune disorder. what part of "infinite diversity in infinite combinations" don't you get? are you incapable of foreseeing the inevitable "collisions"?

>That is how proactive these developments and the scientists tend to be with respect to safety concerns
bro...just stop

>Anti-vaxxers: SEE! PROOF VACCINE BAD
and now we reach the point in the discussion where vaxxers downplay risks and furthermore pretend they knew about it all along.
somehow in your limited brain you imagine these gene therapies, i noticed you're still using the term "vaccine", being approved had this information been public knowledge; that assuming testing had been done - news flash, it hadn't.

>>15918248
>>Which is why it makes sense to have pointed out there are no reported adverse outcomes associated with this frameshift of the mRNA
and their analysis says nothing about non-linearity. you think single frame-shifting is where this ends? you dont anticipate knock effects of ribosomal error correction? you think that ribosome just resume normal operations with no deleterious effects? this isnt fear mongering. this is science you fucking pale simulacrum of a skeptical mind.

>>15910856
HAHAHHAHAHA RETARD LEFTIST FAGGOTS BTFO

AGAIN

>>15941617
>>15941642
evidence/citations: "TrUsTmEbRuH"
Your reasoning is all the same.
1. Assume vaxx = bad
2. Assume unknown = bad
3. Therefore study concluding no known risk = proof bad
You're not "woke" to anything you're just paranoid schizophrenic.

>>15941716
>Assume vaxx = bad
there is the problem right there. you're actually not sentient and lack the requisite intelligence to have any profound discussion.
risk for a novel, rushed, untested gene therapy is unknown and infinite;its common sense for those possessing a soul.
>you're just paranoid schizophrenic.
and since you lack self-awareness you'll miss this is actually a complement and what winning looks like.

>>15941803
>there is the problem right there. you're actually not sentient and lack the requisite intelligence to have any profound discussion.
fallacy of the converse != profound
>risk for a novel
mRNA has been tested for decades lie more
>gene therapy
If "gene therapy" includes mRNA vaccines then all vaccines, infections, etc, are "gene therapy" and the phrase is meaningless.
>and since you lack self-awareness you'll miss this is actually a complement and what winning looks like.
Glad we agree paranoid delusions complement descriptive accuracy of antivaxxers and truth is winning out against paranoid delusions.
>common sense
Your brand of extremism is not very common which is probably why you idiots are so angry in the first place.

>>15941712
They're always wrong, because the distinction isn't between left and right, its between right and wrong.

>>15942728
this, thats why leftists are always wrong.

>>15910856

SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein from virus and injection can cause amyloidogenic cascades and prion disease in humans and animals.

Brain Fog? It's a bit more serious than that.
Get tested for amyloid.

Kevin W. McCairn PhD
>https://twitter.com/NestCommander
>https://rumble.com/c/DrKevinWMcCairnPhD

Amyloidogenesis of SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein
>https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/jacs.2c03925

SARS-CoV-2, long COVID, prion disease and neurodegeneration
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9551214/

"Amyloid refers to the abnormal fibrous, extracellular, proteinaceous deposits found in organs and tissues. Amyloid is insoluble and is structurally dominated by β-sheet structure."

"The term “prions” refers to abnormal, pathogenic agents that are transmissible and are able to induce abnormal folding of specific normal cellular proteins called prion proteins that are found most abundantly in the brain. The functions of these normal prion proteins are still not completely understood."

>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/452739139

>>15944896
In large scale studies looking at neurological outcomes any adverse outcome appears explicable by severity of infection and comparable to similarly severe infections.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39973-6
And here's a very large systematic analysis from many samples worldwide with the same result, and specifically assessing "long covid" associated outcomes. https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-3213986/v1
For an example of a non preprint doing similar on a smaller scale https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-42726-0

Overall when weighted against attempted matched cohorts almost all associations are attributable to severity of an infection, rather than sars-cov-2 itself. Of course covid is still a problem because of just how many people experience severe infection, but that alone seems to account for all or almost all of the "long covid" adverse outcomes. The most significant covid-exclusive association I've seen reported is reinfection but that's still slight and may still just be down to severity of infections.

So this "muh prion" panic is either schrodinger's neurological outcome and it disappears when compared to infections of similar severity, or is so incredibly rare it somehow escapes statistical significance despite worldwide multi-million or larger database comparisons. I've more concern over eating a hamburger at that point.

VACCCCIIIINNNNGGGGGGGGGG

>>15910856
/pol/ is always right

So glad I never got vaxxed, I can just imagine the dread vaxxed faggot NPCs must be experiencing, seeing their lived ones die of myocarditis and increased cancer rates, being so paranoid and neurotic about their symptoms, knowing that they may not wake up tomorrow or when their vaxxed induced cancer will appear lmao

>>15945677
i don't worry about things that aren't real

>>15945696
>i don't worry about things that aren't real

>>15946558
yes I know that makes you upset anon but you see
your tears give me reason to live

>>15947265
>dead vaxxies
thats good doe

>>15910856
>Put another quarter in the ‘pol was right’ jar
That jar has got to be worth a fortune by now. How much is the '/sci/ was right’ jar worth?

>>15910914
>oh the horror.
>But important to avoid because it *could* be worse.

>>15910896
>amounts to "contributes to error rate in transcription wasting body resources by some percent that might otherwise have been useful if on-target instead of off-target". world isn't ending
>>15910906
>this is literally criticizing it. transcription frameshift is something to avoid for better efficacy and reduce chance of other downstream effects if any.
>they seem to still have a job.

>>15910933
>Nobody ever claimed the vaccine was 100% safe

Can someone pull up the webm?

25¢

>>15949361
I don't think those can be posted on sci.
https://streamable.com/fhbpmr

>>15950054
What a succesful shill

Just say pol was right get your money

>>15949361
https://streamable.com/s5ul2a

>>15910896
If you want to act as histrionic as the poltard antivaxers then I suggest you join them in their hovel. Discussing the vaccine is perfectly fine.

>>15910959
retard

>>15950196
>reeeeeeee I needs muh safe space
why are you on 4chan if being here upsets you so much? if you want a safe space just use reddit or facebook or instagram or youtube, tiktok, or pretty much any of the rest of the long list of censored safe spaces for people like you

No refunds, I’m very sorry though, I have vaxxed family and friends.

>>15946759
Don’t forget your 8th booster shot, goy.

>>15951127
Your safe space is pol, it is obvious scientific discussion scares you so I suggest you move there to >reeeeeeeee all you want and score some epic comebacks