/sci/ - Science & Math

TOTAL BEETLE DEATH

We are going. Patience bros.

Reminder that the Hakuto-R moon lander mission is about to happen in about 30 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

https://ispace-inc.com/m1

>>15389777
Cool. Cant find any moe for hakuto-r, unfortunately. maybe there will be soon

>>15389777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49UdKvoj8I

Give me one good reason why this wont crash like all the others

>>15389783
there are clearly pictures of it landing

>>15389770
Soon...

>>15389786
oh shit, i'm sorry

>>15389786
Buttplug engine?

>>15389786
looks like you need your hands to use it, kind of defeats the purpose

>>15389790
looks more like concealed carry. You point the ass towards where you want to shoot and then squeeze real tight

So when do we start paperwork posting for OFT-2?

>>15389786
owchie

>>15389794
probably in about 2 weeks

>>15389787
easily blown out of space by a few of these firing 30mm depleted uranium shells from their nose mounted GAU-8 cannons, probably even has an unshielded thermal exhaust port a small snub-nose fighter could target to start a chain reaction

Will the steel plate make Starship launches louder or quieter?

>>15389770
Never, US govt is broke.

>>15389806
both, depends on where you stand

Have people seen less or more schizo space is fake stuff after this launch? I haven't really frequented places where posting like that would be normal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4v_9ez0Lk

>>15389806
yes

>>15389865
Holy kek someone actually made it, fuggin saved

>>15389872
yeah, me, just for you :)

>>15389786
Concealed carry for trannies?

>>15389865
Based

So, what's the Moon mission planning now, can Starship make it? We can't let the chinks do it, even though they're half a century late.

>>15389889
If FAA doesn't delay SpaceX anymore, it should be up and running in few months again and few more afterwards.

>>15389889
They'll launch about a dozen starships, then go up there in Crew Dragon and choose the one that looks the least banged up from concrete fragments.

So what actually went wrong?
Yeah, some engines failed, but the ship was designed so it could still get to orbit without all of them, right? So why did it start tumbling?

>>15389894
Fuck off tourist

>>15389889
>can Starship make it?
not a chance

>>15389891
grounded
>The Federal Aviation Administration grounded SpaceX’s Starship rockets on Thursday after one of them exploded minutes into lift off on its first test flight and crashed into the Gulf of Mexico.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/20/spacex-starship-explode-elon-musk-00093042

>>15389907
>politico
hmm, somehow I don't believe this.

>>15389907
> The rockets will remain grounded pending an FAA investigation to ensure “any system, process, or procedure related to the mishap does not affect public safety,” as is standard practice, the FAA said in a statement.

> Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), chair of the Senate Commerce Aviation Subcommittee, said lawmakers need to clarify which agency will be in charge of regulating the industry as “space tourism steps up.”

>“We have to decide who’s going to regulate that type of travel. Is it going to be the FAA or is it going to be NASA — NASA is not a regulating agency the way FAA is — coming up with the rules and policies of how we conduct both commercial passenger and commercial freight travel?” Duckworth said. "... We need to sit down and really have a real reckoning as to who’s going to be in charge of this — an agency that has lots of experience with regulating commercial passenger and freight but no space experience, or a space agency that has no experience with logistical moving things around the way the FAA does? So we’ll have to see.”

>>15389917
It's over

They've actually shown it, kek, the CZ-9 reusable S2 variant is just Chinese Starship

>>15389875
Thanks anon

>>15389907
>>15389917
>Grounded
Its not like they are going to suddenly send up another five because they enjoy firework or something

>>15389907
The license was valid for one launch only. So they obviously intended to review the launch no matter what happened.

>>15389920
why improve on perfection?
There aren't many ways to do the reusable second stage desu, you have the Bono/stoke/delta clipper style with the Aerospike/Heatshield or you can do an inline spaceplane/lifting body of which the starship is basically a low crossrange vertical landing optimisation.

>>15389791
can't you see the trigger bar? all you need to do is clench...

We solved this shit ages ago

>>15389954
they're trying to come up with a solution that doesn't involve digging a skyscraper-sized hole into a swamp

now that the 1st stage can be reused are SSTOs officially dead?

>>15389889
Anyone who thinks starship is the bottleneck is genuinely retarded, uninformed or they have an agenda

>>15389893
This is my headcanon.
>>15389961
Once a meme, always a meme.

>>15389770
https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/NASA---Going-Nowhere-Since-1958-(Full-Documentary):4

https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/NASA---Going-Nowhere-Since-1958-(Full-Documentary):4

Replace NASA with SpaceX, same shit. Sciencesois on suicide watch. It's a amazing how much bullshit the NPC's will take all because they want to badly believe the lies.

where is his video of himself gloating?

>>15389961
on earth pretty much if some meme power source/propulsion method doesnt come about that makes efficiency irrelevant
I'm not sure if fusion is enough for example

>>15389994
no doubt its coming, easy to make a thunderfoot video about the launch or even multiple
you can bad faith argue a number of things so I would be surprised if he doesn't milk this for some content
the musk related videos tend to do considerably better as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

time to get back to work, a storm was nice enough to clean the shit up as well

>>15389920
This was inevitable

>>15389961
on the short term yes.
The only way they aren't dead is if staging stays a likely point of failure once volume becomes much larger, in this case it could have an use for crewed launches.

>>15389961
SSTO was never truly alive in the first place
for good reason

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1650280569756868610

>>15390011
KAIJUUUU

>>15390011
>it's tilted

>>15389920
Based, the gig is up burgers.
China century is now.

>>15390018
yes, anon. We've been over this: It's a launch tower avoidance maneuver.

> a launch tower avoidance maneuver.
I've heard some other theories

>>15389920
Let’s fucking go, don’t ever say chyna lacked faith of the heart

So Scott Manley skipped Starship launch event for ULA factory tour.

Would you have done that if you had the capacity to go in either direction?

>ULA does factory tour with popular youtubers right as Starship is launching
What did Tori mean by this? Is he declaring war?

>>15390032
Starship will be around for the next 100+ years and only get better. Vulcan will only be here for maybe 20 years at best. So yeah he made the right call I guess
More serious answer: while the SS flight would have been really fun, I get scott wagered his options and felt that the first actual tower landing attempt would be a better launch to attend and that passing up a VIP tour offered to him would have been a bad idea

>>15390035
ULA Sniping

>>15390032
lmao fuck no. what a retard
>going to some dime-a-dozen factory tour that you can do literally any other time
OR
>witnessing the birth of the new age in spaceflight, stories of which will be told for decades to come

>>15390035
The funnier thing, in my opinion:
>speculation starts to form that SS will fly in the coming days
>Blue Origin goes on a twitter crusade posting their “hardware rich” (big quotes) factory operations to seem relevant

>>15390037
Starship launch is once is a history event. Its a pure emotional ride that can be told as a story for future generations. ULA factory tour can be booked anytime. Like literally.

Personally, if I had the choice, I'd skip out on the tour for a week and go for Starship launch event. You're skipping out on living history because you're suffering from EDS

>>15389947
Honestly between the 3rd stage, potentially expendable S2 (I know SX will do it too) and possibility for Downrange landing it does seem like a better medium term BLEO launcher than Starship.

>>15390035
kek, he didn't want any serious musk 1s there.

>>15390044
Ehlers–Danlos syndrome?
that's rough

>>15390032
There was no guarantee of launch and if he turned down ULA probably no further access to them them. He has no special access to SpaceX and would be there just as bystander.

>>15390017
For me, the black tiles and white ice remind me of a whale

>>15390038
kek

>>15390052
Ofcourse from a business perspective, ULA tour gets in their good grace. But thats a compromise someone like Scott Manley made.

>>15390025
such as?

>>15390032
Personally I think its shitty of ULA to book him in for a tour during the launch period of Starship, like someone must have thought about the fact he might already be booked for the Starship launch right?

>>15390029
they keep coming out with these power points every month
it means nothing

>>15390061
They know their social media. Manley has been critical of Musk since twitter and knows he's suffering from mild EDS

>>15390058
immediate engine failure(s) causing the rocket to move laterally

>>15390032
actually like someone else said, the launch scrubbed once already, saying fuck you to ULA might worsen the relationship with them
the decision to go to the starship launch vs ULA factory tour would probably depend if I'm doing content or not
no content -> Starship launch
content -> ULA tour

>>15390044
>>15390063
>EDS
Earth Departure Stage?
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/work_assign.html

>>15390044
if you can book a tour whenever then of course I would go to the starship launch in either case t. >>15390068
is it actually true or just speculation? If this is true, then cuck manlet is even more of a retard than I thought
I just keep losing respect for him
how is that even possible

China going full Starship. And I think 1st or 2nd stage will land on ocean platform as well afaik

bros I found the ISRU bible. It's amazing. I think one of my favorite parts of space colonization is ISRU.
https://marspedia.org/In-situ_resource_utilization

>>15389920
>>15390076
>copying something Musk has made
>copying something Musk is making
>copying something Musk will make

>>15390080
>meanwhile US gov will stop Musk at all cost

>>15390076
how will the villages be pillaged now?

Somewhat relevant to spaceflight and fusion has been talked about here a few times
how much better would a fusion ship be compared to something like NTR anyway? I guess if you just used it as a heat source then not particularly much?

https://archive.is/20230423171411/https://www.wsj.com/articles/tech-billionaires-bet-on-fusion-as-holy-grail-for-business-9a48a2ac

>>15389920
Since international media is censored, and they're only exposed to domestic propaganda, do they think Musk copied China?

>>15390018
So I went, it was amazing. People as far as you could see. The crowd excitement was palpable. It was a roller coaster of emotions -
>Seeing raptors ignite
>Think they shutdown
>See Starship start to rise
>See Starship start to go sideways more than up
>Clearly crooked
>Starts burning up engines, going really really slow
>Never looks that far away
>Starts to spin
>Is this gonna come back at us?
>What the fuck is it doing
>Explosion
The whole thing from our perspective looked out of control, I'm surprised they didn't blow it right after liftoff. The entire time it looked like it was absolutely crawling and struggling to gain altitude. Maybe its was just the sheer size of it made it deceiving. It also wasn't as loud as I expected. You could feel it in your chest but I saw the Shuttle and that was deafening. My theory before I heard anons theory in SRB sound was the viewing area for the shuttle was downwind, whereas Starship we were parallel with the wind.
https://streamable.com/lhzdat

>>15390101
No, Elon has a good following in China and the space followers are well into SpaceX/Starship. Thats the whole reason many are copying SpaceX/Tesla

>>15390002
Least obsessive anti-Musk cultist

>>15390103
Man I’m so jealous
Stupid question, but if you’ve already been there, why not go all the way to Mexico where there was a better view?

WE GAAN OR WHAT?

>>15390113
tomorrow. the storm filled the new deluge crater.

>>15390111
Banditos. I asked the Mexican American hotel receptionist if going across the border like I used to in the early 2000s is still commonplace and she said absolutely not, border tourism is dead and it's too dangerous.

>>15390076
A 15th Long March 9 design has hit the towers

>>15390119
Yeah I had heard about that, but the beaches seemed crowded on the other side of the border on launch day

>>15390119
Yeah border used to be safe during the day but now everything north of Mexico City is not even worth contemplating, especially if you’d be obviously foreign

However dangerous you think it is, it’s much worse than that

>>15390094
> The DIU wants a nuclear power source that could provide electrical power out of a device the size of a toaster oven or microwave some time in the next five years, said Mr. Weed, who pointed to a need for small satellite propulsion systems in cislunar space, the area between Earth and the moon.

>>15390129
It was probably crowded with criminals waiting for stupid americans.
I remember when someone asked my mexican colleague if you needed any shots or whatever if you were travelling to mexico and he said "No, you just need a gun".

>>15390129
It does look like they had a hell of a view. Just not worth it, especially with my complexion.

>>15390142
*and water bottles

>>15390063
I do think Scott is overly critical of Musk (and SpaceX it seems too, even though you can seperate one from the other)
But its not like he goes out of his way to dunk on SpaceX at every occasion, at least trying to be unbiased about things. Main reason we can tell that he does have some issues with musk/spaceX is because he is often overly uncritical to blue balls/Astra/virgin and all these other companies that hasnt really delivered (sorry if I stepped on any toes, but if I did I do appriciate any Yous I may have sent my way)

Ameriwokes? How do we cope?

>>15390134
even nuevo leon and monterrey?
tesla is going to start building a gigafactory in the outskirts of monterrey soon, which means musk is probably going to visit the place from time to time

>>15390142
they are kidnapping americans/tourists or what?

>>15390157
Those black people got killed/held hostage in Reynosa I think a few months ago but that was most likely a drug deal gone bad. You just never know. Odds are if you stay smart and keep a low profile you'll be fine, but there's no guarantee. I went to Hermosillo for a business trip 4 years ago and it was fine. I also went across the border for work in Tecate and it was fine, but I had local Mexicans with me the whole time, exploring was discouraged.

>>15390076
>2033
It's over. America won.

why is Mexico such a crime-ridden shithole?

>>15390170
the illegal drug trade has given cartels immense money and power

>>15390170
Mexians made it that way, the culture comes with this idea of - because I as a little girl wore just worn out flippers and a simple white dress as a poor girl, I must now ensure that my children does not suffer poverty - therefore I will deal in crime/do drugs etc etc.
What happens? Those around her suffers, but at least her children can move to America now that they have ripped through everyone elses pockets and economy

fuck we need to get off this planet fast. IQ rates are fucking dropping like stones, even in iceland. We might be done for.

>>15390193
Is all gone be okay my lil nigga

>>15390193
If IQ rates are dropping, how is spaceflight more promising than ever?

>>15390155
Monterrey? Yes. Used to be one of my favorite places in Mexico. It’s simply beautiful, built into the foot of the hill. Nowadays cartels hang people from the bridge. You can go to Monterrey and be fine - but I would literally never go again. There isn’t a way to guarantee your safety. Musk has enough money to be safe though.

>>15390200
nta but low iq post

>>15390200
what are you implying

>>15390170
It’s genuinely not all of it, the Yucatan is completely safe. But Mexicans have Stockholm syndrome about cartels, probably because they believe (probably correctly) that no one is ever going to actually wipe them out so when the police or Americans antagonise them it’s just going to bring chaos down on them

>>15390209
What
I meant what I wrote. Are you so used to word games you think there's a subliminal message or something?

>>15390200
Elon has collected a large amount of the most intelligent people left and put them in spacex.

>>15390211
you have to legalize drugs to wipe out their main source of income, which would then weaken them and wipe them out

>>15390225
very nice, anon.

do you all think this launch will make them design a proper stage separation mechanism, or will all flightsw going forward attempt the chad flip(tm)

>>15390223
My nog they make fentanyl, originally from Chinese imports. You would have to legalise any and all substances and cease controlling the flow of pharmaceuticals, and even after that you’d have to completely open the border because they do a lot of human trafficking, and even after that you’d have to legalise child prostitution. And the cartel would still be able to make money in that scenario
People who think you need to legalise weed dude just to destroy organized crime are retarded.

>>15390240
I have a gut feeling the next thing to fail miserably in the program will be that stage sep. There's a limit to how much you can simplify engineering before it just becomes pointless.

>>15390240
I hope they try it again, losing engines and gimbal control of the inner engines due to hydraulics exploding means they didn't really have a chance to test it yet

>>15390241
they would be able to make money, sure, but nowhere near what they make now

>>15390094
I'll be honest, seeing people like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos thinking fusion is right around the corner has done more to make me cautious about it than anything else.

https://twitter.com/ESA_Tech/status/1650496348230123526

https://www.esa.int/Space_Safety/Hera/What_colour_is_an_asteroid_Hyperspectral_imager_to_find_out

>>15390211
>probably because they believe (probably correctly) that no one is ever going to actually wipe them out
Why don't we just kill them all?

>>15390240
I think they’ll stick with it until a) it works, or b) they’ve attempted it multiple times with all SH/SS parameters in their favor and it still fails

>>15390263
Does ESA have an overarching goal?

>>15390240
How the hell will it work with more sensitive cargo?

>>15390241
so the drugs are not the problem but Mexican society itself?

>>15390269
To keep funds flowing to the various aerospace companies under their umbrella.

>>15390273
Yes. They've been like this for literally centuries. Not always in the way they are now, but always with the violence and instability.

were there any launches in the past 6 hours?

>>15390271
like what? nukes?

>>15390285
Like people and things more sensitive to being shaken around.

So the day before the launch Tim Dodd was wondering up and down the street along the OLM for hours having his celebrity moment. I passed him twice, he was saying hi to everyone, you could tell he was looking for people to recognize him and acknowledge his presence. We was with a chick and a gym fag with his shirt off harassing all the women. It was really douchey.

If we can seed other planets with life, does that prove the possibility of extraterrestrials?

>>15390271
The same way. If you’re flying on a manned starship you better hold on for dear life

>>15390291
Why would it?

>>15390291
There's no space you retard.
Do you also believe the earth is a globe you braindead vaccinated goylem.

>>15389954
I mspainted this and I can't believe someone saved it

I can't even remember what the point was. I think it was booster catching before the tower was explained.

>>15390293
Because it means extraterrestrial life can exist obviously

>>15390297
ew

>>15390011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqCDuwZsCs

>>15390303
We are here arent we? If the sort of evidence you need to conclude your belief in ayy lmaos is true, is that we can reseed life on other worlds, when we already have proteins and acids which is arguably the most complicated piece of the puzzle. The most complex piece of the puzzle for reseeding is longevity, we could send some waterbears to Mars right now and wed technically have spread life to other worlds

>>15390307
>Shiro Sagisu
I kneel, he also made the soundtrack for Evangelion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4z2oPyjvPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8BQDvpUfoE

>>15389907
>>15389917
It's over.

>>15390332
No, YOU are over

Is this the reddit thread?

>>15390299
/sfg/ paint drawings are always comfy even if they depict stupid or unrealistic ideas

>>15390334
yes

>>15389920
VELY implessive

> rockets
lol

>>15390345
you are mega retarded. You should leave.

A toast to my fellow Spin Kings

>>15389920
Find someone in your life who is as much of a fan to your work, as the Chinese to Musk's products.

EVs and batteries
Hyperloop
Rockets

>>15390351

>>15389920
Why no steel? The Starship's selling point is reliability/re usability

>>15390345
silly anon. notice that compasses don't point straight down?

>>15390357
Because it’s literally just smoke and mirrors. I have seen more designs for long march 9 than I have seen spacex clickbait youtube videos. None of them have gone beyond a PowerPoint. This isn’t even the first long march 9 I’ve seen this year

>>15390269
they just do science. Honestly for an oldspace org they're respectable.

>>15390359
clearly that saucer is simply landing on one of the poles

>15390352
decadent earther lifestyle = decadent earther selection pressures = dysgenics

>>15390352
Spinhabs are the most kino form of colonization.

>>15390369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFE9DZM-cQ

>15390373

>>15390383
you cannot dispute it, albeit.

>>15390291
What does seeding Maya prove?

Mars is such a dogshit planet

>>15390400
Any planet that you're on is a dogshit planet.

Venus? Oh you mean like my peenus?

>>15390389
t.

Who could be the next company to make a super heavy vehicle?

>>15390406
god I love the way SLS looks. The orange, the pair of SRBs, the tapered design. It really is the way rockets should look

aren't spinhabs just garbage science fiction?
pop sci mush, in other words.

>>15390415

>>15390211
or they just glorify gangster style thinking it is some apex level existence

ITT: Earthers that unnerve me

>>15390406
In the US? I think Blue Origin is the only one even vaguely attempting.

https://twitter.com/sarwatnasir/status/1650498851269124111

>>15390415
Yeah, just like large scale human presence off of Earth is. It's science fiction until it isn't.

>>15390415
no, perfectly possible to build with steel

>>15390277
some of their ancestors were making human sacrifices to the sun gods before the first ytebois even appeared over the horizon

the bloodthirst is in their genetics at this point

>>15390426
Just make shit up, go ahead

>>15389777
It will be sad if it crashes
I want them to succeed but lunar lander history doesn't give me hope

>>15390290
he was just taking the waifu and her bull out for a walk

>>15390431
anon, they're mostly spanish

>>15390438
mixed with aztecs and every other tribal a conquistador got a steel hard on for

>>15390415
They're garbage if you want to study microgravity, which is 90% of what the ISS does. They also have sone payload and R&D cost. Manageable, but more than goverments are willing to pay for some crew comfort.

https://twitter.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1650499497191956480

>>15390445
please dont post this fat ugly fuck, i can smell him from here

I've officially unsubbed from NSF on youtube. After Starship has flown, their purpose is fulfilled. I feel as if a great weight has been lifted from my shoulders

>>15390415
no? the forces involved are well understood and making a steel donut in space is not much of an engineering challenge.

>>15390454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MIzTDo79M

>>15390345
>drawing
cool. Now build it

Why doesn't Elon build this?

>>15390402
well im on Mars so my point stands

>>15390466
Because the best part is no part

>>15390466

all well dwellers to be expelled from the airlock

>>15390474
I will use thermite on your shitty little spin station and it will kill everyone in side

>>15390469
>35m to reply
Damn, Mars must have australian-tier infrastructure.

>>15390476
>i... im dwoooling

>>15390473
> a concrete bowl with water in it is absurd speculation

>>15390476
like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp90C0KWaY0

>>15390482
it's not that easy in bowletry

>>15389907
Musk should pivot to China. America is dead

Northrop Station wen?

>>15390460
:(

>>15390496
never

How long until we get a space station with a rotating section for gravity experiments? 2150?

If you give them digits, could you have a reliable workforce in space?

>>15390520
I want to see the human robot fuck the dog robot in the butthole :)

>>15390521
kys

>>15390523
why theyre just robots

>>15390512
~10 years after ss is proven viable. so early 2030s.

>>15390521
>>15390524
thats what the thumbnail looks like desu

>>15390523
they're gonna do it whether you like it or not. they are alone in space without any vaginas nearby.

Boston boner bots

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1650519447176617986
holy shit starship is huge
this is to scale

>>15390032
corridor crew guy
wonder if we will get a space vid from them

What the fuck is his problem anyways?

>>15390545
He is a rocket expert now didnt you know?

>>15390545
His entire grift is based around being "correct" and an "authoritative figure" on youtube despite only having real knowledge regarding chemistry and only a very specific set of chemistry.
He's a layperson in most things he has an opinion on, yet uses his degree to pretend otherwise. He's an imposter making bank off retards.

>>15390545
What is yours?

>>15390545
jealousy.

>>15390545
If starship didn't eat an ass fuel of concrete and shockwaves i would agree with him

Today I will remind them

>>15390545
Reminder that this "person" said that Falcon 9 was basically a Mercury-Redstone with modern engines.

>>15389894
serious answer: they lost one APU near liftoff, and the backup APU about the time it started tumbling. These provided the pneumatic pressure to gimbal the engines. (Irrelevant to future development, since they are switching to electric actuation.)

>>15390556
When you boil it down to the absolute retard pop sci layperson terms, they're all tanks of propellant with chemical reaction engines on the business end.
It's fucking retarded to boil shit down to baby fodder like that though.

>>15390554
>says the man who has never ran a successful business in his life

>>15390545
I want to see him locked in a cage with 10 spacex engineers

>>15390545
but I don't understand, didn't this guy say that starship wasn't going to launch at all in the first place? why is he moving the goalposts?

>>15390564
because he's a twat with a two bit degree and a youtube channel that wishes he was a billionaire with a rocket company

>>15390564
>starship will never be reuseable
>ok so you can reuse it but it will never be cheap
>sure it's cheap and fast to reuse, but they'll never get in orbit refueling down
>ok so they have working tanker variants, but they'll never get mars ISRU down
>sure the mars colony was a huge success but it will never be self sustaining

>>15390533
BIGGER

> Starship has a staging disaster
> SSTO bad! bleats /sfg/
idgi

>>15390557
Spacex sources say they never lost hydraulics btw

why no use a balloon to get to space

>>15390571
it wasn't a staging disaster, unless you count the pad as a stage.

>>15390572
sauce?

>>15390571
Apart from the odd space plane fetishist, we've been pretty firm on SSTOs being dogshit for a very long time, son.

>>15390575
Astral projection

>>15390575
Read L2, subscrube to NSF YT, join the Discord

>>15390575
Nsf

>>15390545
severe Musk Derangement Syndrome (EDS) and generally cynical about anything new (granted a lot of the stuff he talks about is truly bullshit, but not everything is)

>>15390571
>anon doesn't realize that starship is ssto

>>15390579
>>15390580
Oink oink

>>15390579
>>15390580
>Spacex sources
nothingburger as usual

>>15390579
>>15390580
>it occurred to me from behind a paywall

>>15390564
thats what he does, the goalposts will be moving forever
when the first people land on Mars, its going to be about not 1million people getting there by 2050

>>15390583
>>15390586
>>15390587
You guys pissing yourselfs when you could just STFU and get L2 and never need to come to /sfg/. Jealous

>>15390586
Nothingberger*

>>15390289
People/payloads would be strapped in/down anyway for launch so I imagine it wouldn't be that bad really, just like going around a loop on a rollercoaster.

>>15390002
Might be waiting for more pics of the olm ruins

>>15390591
but i love /sfg/, go back.

>>15390595
We love you to anon, no homo

>>15390591
They can't because they are dumb ass NEETs/thirdies

>>15390591
go back

>>15390598
you calling me poor?

>>15390258
Fusion has been "right around the corner" for decades now, I don't think anything that's happened recently is grounds for thinking it's anything less than 10 years away.

>>15390077
>450px
Dumb nigger

>>15390598
yet you post here (to advertise)

Gotta say, atleast the Chinese are smart enough to copy SpaceX. I wanna see what the Starship Super Chang can do, hopefully we get a serious competitor to SpaceX to light a candle under their asset

>>15390601
If you didn’t buy a Starship torch then yes you are

>>15390602
capital investment and materials advancement. neither imply practical application but now we'll actually find out

>>15390581
>Musk Derangement Syndrome (EDS)

>>15390415
Just link like 20 Starships together ina ring and we're set.

>>15390609
I bought that metal sheet for $500 but i would never buy that stupid dildo lmao

>>15390601
Yeah
Fucking poorfag

>>15390612
You joke about this but some retards in 30 years will do this

>>15390611
The E stands for Elon's ;)

>>15390617
You are so fucking dumb it hurts

>>15390612
Nunchuck Starships.

>>15390533
Wait a minute...you could a carry a rocket inside another rocket

>>15390625
You're hired

>>15390617
SEC

>>15390625
Not sure what tether you think would support that tension anon, or how liftoff/controlled burns would work

>>15390623
My brain can’t comprehend this. It looks like a Starship and then SuperHeavy and everything else is photoshopped

>>15390626
Only the second stage

>>15390625
Not that easy in nunchuckery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEZ2lpM0Yw

>>15390631
yes, steel rope beyond human comprehension

>>15390631
Newfag?

>>15390625
literally will never happen

>>15390628
There will be no such thing on Mars.

>>15390641
Yeh, been around here 3 months so still fairly new. Is this possible without memetech then?

>>15390587
>>it occurred to me from behind a paywall
KEK

>some anons last thread
>Primal Space is just a copypaste farm nothing original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhtTX51qPYk

>>15390545
He's a loser. A loser who has done nothing with his life. So the angst got him to become a youtube "skeptic" which impressed midwits and idiots. Then with that new found pride, used it to attack Musk and all his companies.

There are many like him.

>>15390660

>>15390660
You think this refutes that in the slightest? Are you a fuckin retard?

>>15390611
Severe Elon Musk Derangement Syndrome (EDS)

https://youtu.be/VaLGrJ-14hs
Kino alert, folks

>>15390679
(you're replying to the channel owner)

>>15390679
>You think this refutes that in the slightest?
Yes, theres more original content than copying press release/twitter thread content like spacebucket, which was the main argument you made yesterday

You lost, deal w/ it

>>15390631
The one they used to lift SS up, back when chopsticks weren't in place. It's not hard.
>b-b-but I need 10x safety factor!
Oh no, the tether broke!!! What a catastrophe!! Now the ships are ... slowly drifting apart(!), whatever shall we do?!

>>15390687
So he's advertizing? Good that makes it easier for me

Do we have any official word from SpaceX about what caused the failure? Or are they still assessing damage?

>>15390694
Radio silence

what does the site look like post tornado/rainstorm

>>15390694
It’s pretty fucking obvious what the cause was retard

>>15390693
most of all grifter content from minor channels poster here is (and some major ones see the nsf posts with "sauce" you were invitedto pay for up the thread. i hate that these cunts ruin everything but its just an extension of ethot gaming streams or whatever other interest that has been ruined by money/attention seeking cunts.

>3d printing, blockchain, chatgpt
if anyone brings soitech up then you know their project is full of shit

>>15390687
lmao no you retard, I just love proving anons here wrong when they dont know what they're talking about

going to start posting some of my vids and images. On the 20th about an hour before launch we walked out of our hotel on South Padre and decided to walk the beach the whole way to Isla Blanca Park and there was this surreal scene of a massive unorganized crowd all going the same direction on the beach.

>>15390707
lol I post content from everywhere completely indiscriminately if I see it hasn't been posted here (except L2, don't have it)

>>15390712
Dude just stop. Go back. You're painfully obvious

>>15390713
Are you the sign anon?

>>15390712
you were called out, you made effort in one video, now you're sharing it here to redeem/advertise

>>15390713
one person walking in the other direction

>A good insight into China's Miyin exoplanet project. Miyin aims to detect habitable planets around nearby stars using interferometry, using 4 telescopes & a beam combiner at Sun-Earth L2. On-orbit tests in 2024, launch an experimental sat in 2027 year, active ~2030.

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1650109456447881219

>>15390717
>>15390720
>anons think I'm primal space shilling because they can't admit they were wrong

This is too hilarious holy fuck

>>15390716
you wanted us to look for the sauce of your claim by signing up to paid services instead of screenshoting it and posting it

>>15390682
just call it MDS REEEEEE

>>15390723
We'll probably have found them all by then lmaoo

>>15390729
>doubling down
You want a content strike or two? I can make that happen

Why do we have so many schizos accusing of same gagging and being e-celebs in this general? It’s every single thread I swear

L2 deramgement syndrone

>>15390731
you have schizophrenia

>>15390735
try grifting on /biz/ you'll have an easier time

>>15390718

I am. We found where all the spacex employees were watching (this blue ampitheater thing in the bg) and hung out on the beach in front of it. Lots of spaceX people wearing black shirts with the mission patches on the back and hanging out at the beach with their families. it was really special.

>>15390734
By all means go ahead I posted that to prove a point and BTFO this anon >>15388113

idc about anything else, if he goes down there's always SpaceBucket to watch which has become quite good and also sometimes mixes in OC tangents in his videos

Hey guys, just invested in Astra today. Feelin' #teamspace up in here

>>15390738
everyone read the posts. if you have that information share it without directing us off site to a place we have to subscribe to.

>>15390743
Holy fucking shit SOMEONE SAVE THIS ANON YOU ARE A FUCKING LEGEND

>>15390723
cool but what's the wavelength? xray? visible? ir?

>>15390723
is this something new? 4 satellite interferometry

>>15390682
EMDS

not be confused with

ESDMD

>>15390745
LMFAO you're that shitty channel with the 8min videos? AHAHAHAHA

>>15390723
so what are the pajeets up to these days? cant let changs outgun them if they want to be space superpower 2023

>>15390732
its EDS, can't change the name anymore

Some cool beach art we saw on the walk

>>15390755
HAH I knew your paranoia would take you there, this is too easy

>>15390743
>your average sfg poster
i would've pictured differently

>>15390743
based

/sfg/ 1 : grifters 0

>>15390743
fucking legend

>>15390761
AHAHAHAHA I CANT BELIEVE YOU ADVERTIZE HERE TOO

>>15390762
He doesn’t even look that bad

>>15390759
this shit is starting to remind me of roswell

>>15390743
how loud was IT? both pre and after detonation

>>15390768
I thought I was PrimalSpace though so which is it paranoid anon?

>>15390743
you look like you could work for nsf kek. have you considered L2 membership?

>>15390743
Holy based

https://twitter.com/EzekielOverstr1/status/1649963512033157120

SPTM sound

>>15390778
FUCK AHAHAHAHAHA YOU KEEP REPLYING IM FLATTERED. BUT NO, YOUR CHANNEL IS COMING DOWN SAD TO SAY

>>15390602
>Fusion has been "right around the corner" for decades now
No, no it hasn't. What the press publishes is not indicative of reality. They created the meme and now use the meme as evidence for the meme's permanence. It is a belief that is divorced from reality and ignores any and all progress.

>>15390787
Which channel would that be, you've now accused me of being 2 different channels its hilarious desu, do you browse /pol/ regularly btw

SPMTs going in and now chopsticks moving? Doomer sisters what went wrong?

>>15390743
based
I imagine "it's over" was written behind that sign, right?

>>15390773

Similar to a jet engine directly overhead. by the time it detonated it wasn't that loud.


Also, I met the most based man in existence after the launch. We were chatting everyone up and this dude came up to me and asked if I wanted a piece of sn11 so now I have a piece of the heat shield.

so now thats done, there was never a spacex source that the hydraulics didn't fail.

>>15390797
>csi starbase = btfo
>hullo = btfo
>r/spacex = btfo

sfg wins again!

>>15390694
Id be surprised if any explanation comes out at all unless they're forced to provide a report to the FAA. They never gave any extensive info on the Starship hop failures.

>>15390808
Basado

>>15390802
Legend, how is your morale after launch? Are you dooming or on hopium?

>2024 - Queqiao-2, Chang'e-6 lunar sample return
ok...
>2026 - Chang'e-7 - lunar hopper
aww shit here we go
>2028 - Chang'e-8 - 3d printer
lol LMAO even

>>15390791
DO YOU BROWSE IN BETWEEN MY ASSCHEEKS REEK OF SHIT YOU FUCKIN PENIS HEAD

>>15390808
literally everyone agreed the tower was fine

>>15390836
Why is china trying to emulate the soviets with a modern twist? do they know how the story ends?

>>15390826
hopium addict here, there was so much "we're so back" energy on that beach I can't wait for what comes next. doomers get the rope

>>15390812
It doesn't need to be extensive, they can just say whether rocks just fucked it, or the staging went wrong or sth. At this point, we don't even really know whether the hydraulics failed or not.

https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1650501722664574978

Rare rocket bathing sounds!!!

>>15390846
i remember seeing doomposts because the chopsticks hadnt moved

>>15390858
This better be Clear bathing ASMR

>>15390858
cringe

>>15390626
>NASA wants to use Orion?
>Why don't we put Orion within Starship

>>15390858
Absolutely homosexual behavior.

>>15390858
What the FUCK she's a slut????

>>15390863
>IT IS

>>15390854
because they are ussr 2.0 in almost every way. Started out back with their god emperor Mao which was deeply jelly of the vatnik union. To the point of causing mass famine so he could one up SU in food exports and steel production

>>15390871
its a japanese girl thing

>>>/vt/

>>15390858
Cute and funny

>>15390880
She's 20

Clear(ly advertising)

Clear(ily)

i hate vtubers

>>15390858
I'm using this as my alarm for every morning, thanks.

i love vtubers

Shut the fuck up, you god damn faggots.

>>15390900

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

Thots?

martian rovers: do they go beyond vehicles for people to move around in, do they send heavy equipment for moving rogs, digging holes etc?

>>15390908
>Thots?
yeah, here >>15390858

>>15390908
>dead when lunar night comes
who cares?

>>15390912
>progress bad

>>15390076
There is no longer any need to restrict the Long March 9 to conservative and proven technology because there is no longer any need for schedule certainty. Most of China's heavy lifting needs, including their future manned Moon missions, can be performed by the Long March 10 which is planned for 2027. So it doesn't matter if the Long March 9 becomes delayed several years. And so it makes sense for them to aim high with the LM9 and design it to make use of the most ambitious technology they think they can pull off.

>>15390169
At least they might have the benefit of knowing to construct a suitable launch pad from the beginning.

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1650266572483710976

King shit

>>15390858
we won

>>15390858
she is starting an OnlyFans or something?

>>15390928
every major space company ceo browses and gets their memes from /sfg/

>>15390914
progress would be a gizmo that doesn't die without sun for 2 weeks

>>15390858
Wouldn't surprise if one day Elon finds out about Clear's existence and starts promoting her.

>>15390362
The YF-130 has performed hot fire tests.
https://www.space.com/china-test-fire-massive-engine-moon-mars-rocket
However they're probably going to cancel that engine in favor of the 200t FFSC mox Raptor clone they're working on, assuming it passes sufficient technical milestones.

The YF-79 has also been tested.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202209/1274765.shtml

They also built 9.5m diameter tank structural test aricles and 9.5m diameter interconnector structural test articles for the previous design.

>>15390943
we've had a mature understanding of fission since the 1950s

lol the transporter things >>15390797
have little operator seats now. No more sitting on buckets or walking behind it

>>15390944
Why don't you go ahead and spam promote her to Elon if that's your calling. We don't need you here.

>>15390858
>>>/vt/

>>15390055
same >>15388076

>>15390406
NG is arguably a super-heavy class launcher because it would have had a throw weight over over 50 tons to LEO if they had designed it to be expendable. Apparently, BO finally has the BE-4 flight-ready, so likely them. The alternative is CASC and their Long March 10, NET 2027. Afaik Yenisei is suspended indefinitely and effectively cancelled (as if any other outcome was ever likely)

>>15390968
>Apparently, BO finally has the BE-4 flight-ready
*widespread laughter *

>>15390606
Copying just makes sense in this case. If someone invents a car, are you gonna make your own version of a car or come up with some retarded monowheel thing

>>15390882
source?

>>15390989
I made it up (it rhymes)

>>15389345
They have:
* The YF-100K and YF-100M engines have both already performed hot fire tests
* The 5m tank diameter is already in production and use
* They did a structural test article of the first stage thrust transmission structure and first stage tank back in 2020
* The YF-75E is a minor modification of the YF-75D that already exists
* The manned spacecraft did a reentry test in 2020
* The Chang'e 5 was essentially a down-scaled integrated test of an Apollo-style moon landing