/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15350364
mostly

>>15350364
I thought so and then I’ve been around the talented tenth in medicine and they seem like full people and I like them more than striver whites so IDK

I think technically if you can breed with them they're not a separate species.

>>15350374
Why is /sci/ proven time and again to be so retarded

>>15350374
That’s just middle school biology. Just about every Central American cichlid fish can hybridize and have fertile defect free offspring and they are separated by millions of years in some cases. Same goes for most pythons. Things from different continents can produce viable offspring

>>15350364
There is no objective definition of species, so people can argue for whatever terminology they want. Rather than getting caught up on word choice, we should just measure genetic variations among human groups and compare the results to those of other animals

>>15350393
Chickens can cross with pheasant and Guinea fowl creating inter family hybrids

>>15350364
>do black people constitute a separate species
They are a subspecies, not a separate species.
>that are cognitively inferior
They tend to be. If you are taking about the igbo elite, they will be smarter than your typical religious white trash.

>>15350401
Oooh, you almost went three whole sentences without going full-'selfrighteous atheist'. Maybe next time.

>>15350364
Yes, and this has been genetically proven.
Humans share 95% of their DNA with Chimps, basically the rest 5% makes us human.
White Europeans share 4.7% out of this 5% exclusively with Homo Neanderthals, only 0.3% with Homo Sapiens.
Sub-Saharan Africans are majority Homo Sapiens with some Ghost DNA (search it up) that only they have.
Asians are majority Homo Erectus with some Neanderthal mixture.

>>15350397
This is not true. The academics have shyed away from doing so for obvious reasons, during earlier 20th century and before, of course our understanding wasn't that accurate, but today we know that species is basically a group of animals that can produce with each other and produce genetically healthy offspring.
Tigers and Lions can produce with each other but don't produce genetically healthy offspring.

>>15350401
There were and are various homo species.

>>15350409
Not self rightous, just pointing out that religious people are different. Facts are facts. Religious people have lower iq is a well established scientific fact. There is something about them that takes away their ability to think logically. If you want to compare black iq to white iq, it can depend on which subgroups you are comparing.
Are religious people a subspecies?

>>15350410
Scientists are far too cowardly to actually test if they can interbreed with Chimps. We may never know

>>15350374
You know the whole idea of species is man-made right? It's not a law of psychics. We made that distinction. Nature does not. Just saying.

>>15350427
This is again not true, read this>>15350415

Blacks are not a seperate species. They are part of the human race. But they are less smart. Test after test has proven they have a iq deficiency compares to other humans. About 15 points. That's pretty sizeable.

>>15350364
are you telling me blacks are not superior!!!???
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaPJ9houyc

>>15350364
Just look up the definition of the word species
>A group of closely related organisms that are very similar to each other and are usually capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring
Says it right there. Things that can breed and produce fertile offspring are the same species

>>15350434
Humans aren't a single species.

>>15350397
>There is no objective definition of species
Yes there is. There may be edge cases but apart from that it's very clearly defined

>>15350415
The other important bit is that those offspring can themselves produce offspring. Some things of different species can breed but the offspring will be infertile in which case they're different species

>>15350441
lions and tigers are not the same species and can produce fertile offspring

>>15350450
Yeah that's included in being genetically healthy.
>>15350733
Their offspring isn't genetically healthy
> Panthera hybrids tend to experience a higher rate of injury and neurological disorder than non-hybrids, ligers and tigons may develop health issues. Organ failure issues have been reported in ligers, in addition to neurological deficits, sterility, cancer, and arthritis.
Look up outbreeding depression, we have seen similar phenomena in white-asian hapas, they have very high rates of mental illness, miscarriage etc.

>>15350751
Hapas are also very socially maladaptive, many incel shooters are hapas for example. Interracial offsprings also can't take bone marrow donation from any single parent in case of anaemia and other diseases that require it. It becomes very difficult (impossible) to arrange it for them.
Even Blood donations don't work across races, for example in UK, there is an extreme shortage of blood for blacks, because they rarely donate, most blood banks have blood of white britishers which doesn't suit the blacks, the government had to start a special drive for this.

>>15350751
>Their offspring isn't genetically healthy
wow I haven't seen back peddling and goal post moving of this magnitude in some time. What you said was wrong, you don't know what you are talking about and can go ahead and stop posting now. btw polar bears and grizzly bears produce fertile offspring as well

>>15350364
>do black people constitute a separate species from white people that is cognitively inferior?

Separate species don't have the capacity to learn the same languages while also catching the same viruses/ illnesses easily without multiple generations of mutations. That kind of cognitive-immunitive similarity isn't present elsewhere.

>>15350830
>birdflu
>not robin flu
>not cardinal flu
>not bluejay flu
>not chicken flu
>bird flu
you are a moron

>>15350837
>completely ignoring my statement about cognitive-immunitive similarity.

Do all those bird species also have the capacity to learn each other's language?

>>15350842
No other animals but humans have a language you absolute fucking moron/ Your level of stupid is beyond comprehension. It is like a black hole of idiocy sucking in everything intelligent in its path and bifurcating it into retarded gibberish

>>15350845
>animals don't have languages

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_language

>>15350853
Did you even read this moron? JFC you are an idiot

>>15350853
kys you absolute moron

Many researchers argue that animal communication lacks a key aspect of human language, the creation of new patterns of signs under varied circumstances. Humans, by contrast, routinely produce entirely new combinations of words. Some researchers, including the linguist Charles Hockett, argue that human language and animal communication differ so much that the underlying principles are unrelated.[1] Accordingly, linguist Thomas A. Sebeok has proposed to not use the term "language" for animal sign systems.[2] However, other linguists and biologists, including Marc Hauser, Noam Chomsky, and W. Tecumseh Fitch, assert an evolutionary continuum exists between the communication methods of animal and human language.[3]

Aspects of human language

Human and ape, in this case Claudine André with a bonobo.
Human language contains the following properties. Some experts argue these properties separate human language from animal communication:[4]

Arbitrariness: There is usually no rational relationship between a sound or sign and its meaning.[5] For example, there is nothing intrinsically house-like about the word "house".
Discreteness: Language is composed of small, separate, and repeatable parts (discrete units, e.g. morphemes) that are used in combination to create meaning.
Displacement: Language can be used to communicate about things that are not in the immediate vicinity either spatially or temporally.[5]
Duality of patterning: The smallest meaningful units (words or morphemes) consist of sequences of units without meaning (sounds or phonemes).[5] This is also referred to as double articulation.
Productivity: Users can understand and create an indefinitely large number of utterances.[5]
Semanticity: Specific signals have specific meanings.[5]

>>15350364
Different subspecies, yes. Yes they are cognitively inferior. As are all except East Asians and Jews.

>>15350441
Yes, now look at grizzly bears and polar bears.
This is a soft science.
In any case it doesn't matter what taxonomy says. Blacks are vastly distinct from whites, in such a way that is generally inferior.

>>15350751
>they have very high rates of mental illness
I am fairly certain hapas have lower rate of mental illnesses than East Asians.
And the women are fucking gorgeous too.
IRegardless, that specific pairing is not nearly as dysgenic as whites with other races, as East Asians, especially the Japanese, are a similarly intelligent and capable race.

>>15350857
>animals don't have language because their language is different than human language.
That's way animal language is not called human language.

>>15351323
animals do not have a language you stupid fucking retard. but let's say they do for the sake of argument, African grey parrots and your average jungle parrot are not the same species and can both speak not only their "language" (which they dont have) but they can speak all HUMAN languages as well. Stop trying to salvage your idiotic premise you pulled out of your ass, it just makes you look like even more of an idiot

>>15350364
No.

Black people constitute a separate subspecies of human that is, on average, less cognitively able than other subspecies of humans.

A German shepherd isn't a separate species from a chihuahua just because it's larger, stronger, and smarter. And there is enough cognitive variation within races that there are many blacks who are cognitively superior to the average white, and many whites who are cognitively inferior to the average black.

The very real difference in group trends does not translate to a universal hierarchy of superiority, and the fact that the average person of any race is way too fucking retarded to process this fact is exactly why we have to go through the whole retarded dog and pony show of pretending all races are exactly the same in every way except skin color.

>>15350401
>typical religious white trash.

hey at least they can make a civilization!

>>15351832
>And there is enough cognitive variation within races that there are many blacks who are cognitively superior to the average white, and many whites who are cognitively inferior to the average black.

let's see a person with substantial african ancestry in the chess top 100, mr. lewontin fallacy! please and thank you

>>15352031
>using the chess top 100 as an example instead of straight up IQ tests which is what we are talking about
Lmao. even the bell curve shows a small part of niggers are above the average IQ, their average IQ is lower but there still are individual who distinguish themselves in IQ tests.

>>15352043
Maurice Ashley, or even Emory Tate
Not top 100 but almost guaranteed to be better than (you) will ever be, and better than >99% of humans who have ever and ever will exist
Chess really doesn't say much about raw intellectual power anyway

>>15352031
Do you consider the chess top 100 to be average intelligence?

If not, why do you think that has any relevance to my statement?

>>15352106
Woops, meant for
>>15352031