/sci/ - Science & Math

All the crew members have an infovideo about them

Tim Dodd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiS0vdTiECc

Steve Aoki (the first one selected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYbWvBoobfQ

>protagonist is a cute tomboy
>member of crew is a brown skinned milf
why does /sfg/ hate it?

>>15041495
Can't imagine how elated Estronaut is right now

>>15041495
I guess I might as well post all of them:

TOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6iuhxXz20Y

Yemi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coG6kDB9pzc

Rhiannon Adam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUcIL6UvhH4

Miyu (backup crew)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNdNYY5A79o

Kaitlyn Farrington (backup crew)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdZzFVho3IE

Karim Iliya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki2hT1Q0Fhw

Dev D. Joshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h47ScgyFwJ4

Brendan Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hVwdl2S68

First for Scott Manley

>>15041507
>why does /sfg/ hate it?
???????
Only issues are the ninja episode, and the comic relief. Maybe some /pol/ losers hate it for that one episode about brown people wanting to not get murdered IDK.

>>15041532
>Maybe some /pol/ losers hate it
polfags need to be device banned

>Starship man rated
>Starship ready with orbital refueling
>Starship man rate for orbital refueling
>Starship man rated for bellyflop
Dear moon isn't happening till 2030 at least.

>>15041531
This was posted before, but still not sure if this is salt or just making a joke. People don't like Steven Aoki for some reason? In the dearMoon video he seemed pretty chill
https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1600992889403674624

>>15041534
it's scheduled for 2023 you retard

>>15041542
>scheduled
completely meaningless in spaceflight

>>15041544
i think i trust spacex before i trust your ass you pull shit from

>>15041545
>nothing happened with Starship in 2022
>surely everything will happen in 2023

>>15041545
when did SpaceX last reiterate that dearMoon would happen in 2023? Kind of doubt its going to happen before the Polaris missions so 2023 seems to really be out of the question at this pace if they don't just have the missions very rapidly after one another, but even then, Starship hasn't been to orbit yet, there is no visible progress towards man rating it

>>15041545
2025 at the earliest. Starship hasn't launched once and you expect them to send tourists around the Moon in a year?

>>15041491
>Steve guettAoki
>Tim ONIONS

Worst crew ever

>>15041534
Or you can just fucking use a Starship HLS lol
HLS Delta V is on the ballpark of 8.5-9 km/s, all inclusive of radiation shielding, life support.

Free Return TLI is ~3.3 km/s, you can do one then just decelerate the 3.3 km/s back to LEO, one dragon or two bring the crew to the HLS and back.

>>15041554
>random photographers
>b-rate bollywood star
>estronaut
>bunch of hippies
literal clown crew

>>15041511
>Even if NASA had a collective consciousness that was in love with SpaceX, congress has no such thing
I bet if both Texas and Florida governors made a big deal about trying to help SpaceX. The knee jerk reaction of everyone not a republican would be to delay their efforts even more. It's almost better for less people to care about Spacex than more

>>15041541
He's a total hack. He pays people to produce his shitty music (just like David Gaytta and most big names of the industry)

https://twitter.com/segeryu/status/1601150849400836097

>>15041557
Honestly I was prepared for a LOT worse. And somehow this selection is making normies seethe. I think, all things considered, it’s pretty good

>>15041541
Kek Manley is such a faggot.
>oh I'm glad I'm not going to see the moon, I might have to be around someone I don't like.
I wonder if he would have said that about some black rapper?
After this tweet I don't have any respect for the man anyway

>>15041541
>People don't like Steven Aoki for some reason?
I've never heard of him or any of the other crew apart from Estronaut.

>>15041507
Disinterest isn't the same thing as hate. You're trying to make yourself a victim because most people simply aren't interested in the same things as you. Heck, look at >>15041532 who somehow turned disinterest into a /pol/ conspiracy. Watch your cartoons all you want, we don't hate you for what you like, we're just not interested. That doesn't make us haters nor does it make us /pol/.

>>15041541
He's saying Hypebeast zoomer DJ who's infamous for spreading herpes.

>>15041507
literally nobody hates it, it's just 1) 20 years old 2) bittersweet now that yukimura has shit the bed with Vinland

>>15041575
>Watch your cartoons all you want, we don't hate you for what you like, we're just not interested.
You're posting on a website made by weebs for weebs.

>>15041571
>freedom over free speech
I'd love to go swimming without getting wet

>>15041572
I have a vague impression of hering the name before but don't really know anything about him, in the previous thread there were some people talking shit about him and I saw some comments in some other place as well

>>15041561
thats all? sounds pretty normal lmao

>>15041491
where the fuck is ringo starr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6WB9tNOW0

>>15041568
Same. I think they should've gotten some sort of visual artist (as messy as it would probably get in space), but this is fine. The worst of them in terms of celeb status are Aoki and the b-list kpop idol, and I expected worse.
I question the backup crew snowboarder though. Sure you can do tricks and shit on snowboards, but I wouldn't really consider it "art", and certainly not art that can be demonstrated in or enhanced by space.

>>15041579
thats how it started, not really what this site is about anymore

>>15041577
literally everyone has herpes lol, unless you mean genital. if that's the case sounds more like zoomers are mad that he fucks

>>15041584
>I think they should've gotten some sort of visual artist
Nta, but I would've expected that and a fashion designer, given MZ's love for those things

>>15041583
elon vetoed him

>>15041507
i like it a lot but you're posting on the wrong board, or at least in the wrong thread

>>15041533
Same for you trannies

>>15041625
Anime website. Every board is an anime board, thus every thread is an anime thread. No exceptions.

>15041618
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Air_Lines_Flight_553

>>15041628
hasn't been since boards were split between interests and japanese culture

>>15041571
The limits to freedom of speech that are necesary for it not to become a hinderance against general freedom are well known and accepted by even the most fanatic libertarian philosophers, from the early to the moden. It's really sad to see idiots who never read a book in their life thinking they can go for an easy "gotcha" by claiming there's a contradiction by what he said. Stop youre just confirming to be 0.01 in the scale of 0/100 of how qualified you are to have an useful opinion on the matter.


Oh, and kuudos to Tim, i guess he won' be called soistronaut anymore

>>15041583
>>15041623
i agree, losing a beatle would be too much of a loss for the human race, on the other hand these canarie... i mean these brave individuals are willing to risk themselves for the advancement of science

>>15041632
cope, seethe, and deorbit

>>15041639
Find another thread to sully, you troll-demon!

>>15041636
Bro he's 82, he can well die in space

>>15041649
William Shatner flew to space this year and he's 91

>>15041646

>>15041658

>>15041662

>>15041664

>>15041665

>>15041593
if you post your address i will come pay you a visit man. you can give me herpes. what do you say?

>>15041491
what the fuck even is "rhiannon adam"?

>>15041667

>>15041507
>why does /sfg/ hate it?
Who said I hate it? I love it. Fuck off and stop trying to find some angle that makes you a victim.

>>15041671

>>15041670
irish photographic artist exploring the place between fact and fiction, dystopia and utopia

>>15041635
>The limits to freedom of speech that are necesary for it not to become a hinderance against general freedom are well known and accepted by even the most fanatic libertarian philosophers, from the early to the moden.

>>15041676
>irish
Sure that's what the passport says but what is she/he actually? Mongolian with eyelid surgery?

>>15041541
Even as a sarcastic "joke", that's a vile comment from Scott. Absolutely shameful.
>>15041571
Maybe he should go back to his own country if he hates America and our constitutional freedoms so much.

Y'all some retards. Scott is a fan of Aoki that's why he put the reddit sarcasm thing after his message.

>>15041691
ok tranny

The future is now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6nPzDhDiU

>>15041695

>>15041676
>irish photographic artist exploring the place between fact and fiction, dystopia and utopia

>>15041700
you have to go back

>>15041557
Clown crew for clown world. Wonder how much is going to be streamed/recorded, tim trying to make conversation with these colossal fags is going to be the height of comedy.

>Oh w-wow c-cool song Aoki
>S-so anyway have you heard about aerospikes?

>>15041711
>projecting your own social dysfunction onto giganormie tim dodd
kek

Croatia

>>15041718
kill yourself and leave

>>15041491
>the second czech person in space is a gay nigger

>>15041557
this is nowhere and i mean NOWHERE near as bad as it could have been

>>15041676
>Irish

lol

Lmao even

Perhaps a little kek too

>>15041545
reminder elonino muskerino said we'd be on mars by 2020 lol

>>15041728
Very true, instead of eyeball rending suffering it's just kind of cringe. Not a single tranny and only 1 w*man is kind of a W desu.

>>15041635
I want to understand how the fuck is freedom of speech a hindrance against general freedom.
>idiots who never read a book in their life
OOHH LOOK I READ BOOKS I"M SO SMART
I'm not gonna give away my freedoms because you think you are smart.

>>15041740
>and only 1 w*man is kind of a W desu
real gay nigga hours

>>15041727
hey, I've seen that movie

I do not want spacex to get stretched thin, but at the same time imagine how crazy it would be if they entered the MIC aircraft sector. In some other timeline they have a crazy fast/maneuverable fighter with advanced computers, and a rocket powered interceptor

>>15041740
>only 1 w*man is kind of a W
we could have had a bimbo who doesn't mind showing skin demonstrating zero g jiggle physics you fool

I'm reading Maezawa's wikipedia and he's a total glownigger plant
Billions of dollars from mail order albums and a gay clothing line? Yeah right
It's safe to say this le moon grift is NEVER happening

>>15041750
Haha yeah bro I love giving trillions of dollars to contractor kikes to drop bombs on random brown people for israel rather than buying actual infrastructure or an actual space program.

>>15041718
kys ustasha turk
serbia number one

>>15041750
In that timeline they have a project pluto nuclear ramjet bomber that only carries giant hydrogen bombs

>>15041738
red dragon will land in 2005

>>15041760
Red dragon would have been the shittest timeline anyway

>No SpaceX because Elon blew his money on making a meme greenhouse on Mars that no one gave a shit about

>>15041762
mars greenhouse is still happening...30 years late.

>>15041738
His timetable is still way more on track compared to NASAs so what’s the big deal

should i watch season 1 of senpai and just not touch the rest?

>>15041753
back to /pol/ retard

>>15041748
>the plot is about gay niggers going down to earth and freeing men by killing all women
unbelievably based

>>15041766
cope cucklette

>>15041767
KEK gottem, fäm

>>15041771
no i literally typed it out lol

>>15041776
Ah shit that’s less funny :(
anyways my opinion is that S1 isn’t even worth it. But still try it out and make the decision yourself

>>15041767
Just skip ahead whenever it's two women talking, you don't miss anything important.

>>15041727
>first one is member of commie party in EU parliment
not like this czechbros

inb4 JPL conspiracy

>>15041697
So much for low cost stamping. Morphing into a rocket built no different than any other.

should astronauts be administered stimulants before flight

>>15041545
You must be new to spaceflight. Every date means no earlier than (NET). Enjoy the ride.

>>15041788
For real. How can these goons (or really anyone at this point) look at starship development, see the crazy amounts of stress and pressures those tanks can hold even with orc tier construction, and not change the way they build rockets
I don’t expect someone like ULA to change, but Astra and Blue Origin should be taking notes

>>15041791
No. They do bring some on every flight though.

>>15041752
yeah a missed opportunity

>>15041783
this pretty much

>>15041783
little sexist dont you think?

When does the Starship orbital test happen? Wikipedia says in early december but early december already passed and we are now in middle december

>>15041807
2 weeks

>>15041807
Q2 '23

>>15041807
14 days

Dear Moon,
How are you? I miss you. I miss being on you and making a mess of you. Thrusting into you. I never wanted to leave you. I want to come back to you.
I love you,
Mankind

>>15041807
late december

>>15041807
February 31st, 202Ɛ

Another waste of trillions of dollars. Why don't they just launch more probes? Those are incredibly cheap.

>>15041801
source?

>>15041786
>>15041823
Is insight finally dead or something?

>>15041806

>>15041807
early december 2023

>>15041697
Very Nice.
Lets's see RFA's rocket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO8FLm0B3go

>>15041829
>t. retard
You can get insight into something without what will turn out to be a program that is much more expensive than it needs to be. Sending people into space is incredibly expensive and yields very little insight relative to probes.

>>15041848
>>t. retard
>that post

>>15041718
kek, bye brazil, let's see...
https://spacenews.com/croatian-space-industry-players-eye-european-u-s-export-prospects/
>Croatian space industry players eye European, U.S. export prospects
>Last February (2018), Croatia’s government signed a cooperation agreement with the European Space Agency. Croatian industry players hope the agreement could pave the way for a closer cooperation with their European counterparts and generate foreign orders.
>“The cooperation agreement with ESA could bring benefits and business opportunities to successful Croatian companies. The Croatian space industry is at an [early development stage]. This cooperation agreement … is the first step [for Croatia toward] becoming a full ESA member, and Amphinicy [Zagreb-based satellite software developer] has been supporting this process from the start,”
and still nothing to show. croatian astronauts into space when? doesn't look good hrvatskabros...

>>15041848
I’m just asking if InSight finally bit the dust holy shit anon calm down you are deranged

>>15041848
I don't remember the source, but with experiments with humans in the desert they reached the conclusion that manned exploration still gets more stuff done than robots.
In the other hand, the robots stay there for much longer.

>>15041857
>In the other hand, the robots stay there for much longer.
Yes but they work SUPER slow and the amount of science is proportional to lower mass and budget constraints. A human can unironically do in a week what would take a lander 5+ years to do

>>15041857
>more ambition gets more done than less ambition
don't need a NASA study for that it's axiomatically true.

>>15041866
>>15041867
The whole point here is money. You don't need to get the whole rover back.
I'd just like to know how to quantify how much "science per dollar" a manned mission would do vs a rover.

once a certain investment threshold is reached manned may become cheaper.

>>15041877
End of discussion.

>>15041884
>better suited for our life
so we need to wait to FTL

>>15041884
>kraut infighting
lmao
Anyway, this was back in 69, rover technology has gone a long way since then. I wouldn't be surprised if probes with AI get so advanced they make manned spaceflight obsolete.

>>15041507
is the broken cyrillic on purpose? It would say PLAINTEZ if the N were backwards.

>>15041892
no one tell him what cyrillic script is based on

>>15041894
um, archaic greek?

>>15041892
it's greek you moron

>>15041892
>PLAINTEZ
THEY KNOW

>>15041902
well that's just silly, who even reads greek? like a million greeks, that's who. what's next, indonesian?

Went down a rabbit hole. Started with the RD-0410. Higher performance in terms of exhaust temp and isp compared to NERVA. According to the wikipedia article, the 0410 is now seeing an evolved design in pockocmoc’s TEM nuclear tug. Which makes no sense to me because TEM is nuclear electric? So they basically took a nuclear thermal rocket and frankensteined it into a nuclear reactor without thrust? Lol

Nuclear is barely better than chemical. Stop it with this cringe

>>15041924
Both reactors sort of have the same goals.
Maximize joules transferred to working fluid per kilo of reactor mass.

>>15041926
I was just googling for the pure autistic curiosity for nuclear material used in/tested for space. I don’t think nuclear thermal is better than chemical or something like Maxar’s PPE. I do love uranium and plutonium as elements though

>>15041914
Is that a joke? Indonesia is like 3rd most populous country after China and India

>>15041926
>he doesn't know

>>15041930
That’s a good point. Still though, any cargo deliveries for the next ~100 (maybe more?) years will only need to go to the moon and mars at most. As I said above it’s better to run off of chemical or solar. Is there really any advantage to building a tug in the first place? If you have something like Starship then I don’t imagine a reason or need for it, unless I’m missing something here

>>15041946
With a tug you can maybe get away with only refueling in earth orbit so no ISRU and way easier logistics.

>>15041926
Stop salting the wound, our nuclear queen Sam Briton was just charged with grand larceny stemming from another theft and an arrest warrant has been issued. This is so hecking awful... I can't even...

>>15041960
This is what started me down the rabbit hole today LMAO
>>15041957
If you’re already producing fuel on, say, the moon or mars wouldn’t it be easier to refuel there where you can reasonably SSTO instead of going to the gravity well that is Earth and needing at LEAST a two stage rocket to fight its way up to you to refuel you?

>>15041491
Why they hell would you bring women with you into space. That's just a recipe for disaster. Every go hiking with a woman?
Plus all those whores will be fighting over the white guys and those poor chinks will get zero action. Imagine the drama.

>>15041980
Have sex

>>15041980
>>15041746

>>15041980
Women are also the nastiest people out there when it comes to personal hygiene. Imagine how unbearable and ogre-like they'll be physically.

>Safe affordable fission engine (SAFE) were NASA's small experimental nuclear fission reactors for electricity production in space.
>400 kW thermal and 100 kW electrical power
>The fuel was uranium nitride in a core of 381 pins clad with rhenium. Three fuel pins surround a molybdenum–sodium heatpipe that transports the heat to a heatpipe-gas heat exchanger.
>The working fluid used in the reactor was a helium–xenon gas mixture.
>The project was funded with discretionary money in the lab's budget and done mostly outside the researchers' normal work.
This is way cooler than the kilocuck project

>>15041807
Q1 of 2023 which means maybe in 2023

>>15041985
No

If NASA let ULA continue working on their propellant depots, SLS would not be needed today.

Let that sink in.

>>15041985
>pic
the spiciest beanbag chair

>>15041992
>Imagine how unbearable and ogre-like they'll be physically.

bruh

>>15042025
We live in a society

>>15042025
you don't care about the jobs, anon? classic muskrat

>>15042068
Is that Peter Beck?

>>15041534
Man rating is literally irrelevant you retard.

>>15042025

>>15042077
Yes

>>15041750
VERY fast plane flying at incredible hihg speed

Ok but can someone PLEASE fund the plasma magnet sail test mission so we can build a real cycler thanks.

>>15042080
thought he only played the gluey flute

Is drunk driving illegal on the Moon? Like if SpaceX landed me there with whiskey and a rover would there be any penalty for getting wasted and driving around?

>>15042096
historic photo of the foundation of /sfg/

>>15042079
Imagine letting your entire space program ride on some old faggot boomer like that.

What would reusable rockets look like if SpaceX wasn’t here?

>>15042129
Like Falcon 9

>>15042129
SpaceShip Two, maybe new shepard or equivalent, one or two struggling american/chinese newspace smallsat launcher with some meme parachute reuse project, that's about it.

>picrel
weren't the EAP made less sturdy after it was realised their reuse wasn't economical?

>>15042129
Was anyone else pushing for rocket recovery besides SpaceX?
Anyway, my guess is that they would attach wings to the booster stage.

>>15042129
probably what they always looked like

>>15042129
Nothing, in fact NASA would be seething because the government would still be having to cuck and buy Soyuz seats.

>>15041628
posting anime is fine on any board b/c it's an anime website, sure
that doesn't mean every board or thread has to be interested in it you dolt
if you show up to a sports club during a football game and start talking about tennis, you're not going to get much interest

>>15042141
There’s been a lot of reusable concepts over the year, but company Kistler was the closest to bringing it to fruition desu.
>Two stage kerosene launcher
>First stage performs a boost back burn and lands under parachute
>Second stage has a heatshield and lands under parachute too

>>15042151
SpaceX not existing wouldn't have made kistler magically succeed.

>>15042151
That's a pretty interesting concept. Very low fuel requirement compared to a self-landing rocket I'm assuming.

>>15042153
I know I just thought it was interesting. We really ended up in the best timeline

>>15042155
Yep, but it’s probably not very scalable. Imagine trying to parachute land a Starship first stage.
Also, landing a thin rocket body on dry land with parachutes and airbags might damage the structure. Believe it or not, Falcon 9 landings aren’t that bad with regards to stresses on the rocket

>>15042160
Oh yeah I'm well aware. SpaceX rockets don't stress the frame much compared to smacking onto the desert or ocean surface. It's still an interesting concept all things considered though, since it could be done in a country without the technological prowess to make self-landing rockets.

>>15042155
It starts with lower fuel requirements for a smallsat launcher and rapidly exceeds the fuel requirements of propulsive landing for larger rockets.

>>15042139
>weren't the EAP made less sturdy
Possibly
There were indeed two versions of EAPs. I never thought about it since they never seriously tried reusing them.

https://youtu.be/zXSvn2Kcb6M
these guys are the NSF killer

NASAs biggest mistake was upgrading Orion to a heavy piece of shit that can only fit on a super heavy lift rocket under a cost-plus contract. If SeX never came around they could have easily just paid for Atlases, even if Constellation was still cancelled.

>>15042175
Their biggest mistake was trusting Boeing. The dirty B sidelined SLS from any chance of using Orion for ISS crew delivery, and if they only went with Starliner-Atlas V for ComCrew they would STILL be waiting for astronauts to return to the station

>>15042141
Hmm in the mid 2000s you also had Hopper, the "official" recommandation for a post-Ariane 5 launch vehicle that was basically a spaceplane first stage + expandable that would land in africa or europe from kourou, a few drop tests of a scale model were done in sweden
There were some ideas of a reusable Liquid-Propellant booster for Ariane 5, but they were all far in the future.

There was the DARPA FALCON Small Launch Vehicle program, SpaceX actually participated in it, there were some reusable or air launched (including spaceshipone-launched) proposals.

>>15042175
Orion is retarded. The separate LES adds so much mass, and while I don’t think the AJ-10 and associated tankage would be needed for just an LEO ship i’m not sure removing those would shave enough mass off to get it on an Atlas or Ariane

https://twitter.com/7riskelionJihad/status/1601236446207086592
EARTHER guys don't LOVE the pussy - EARTHER guys ONLY wanna dress up like SAILOR MOON and try to fuck the SNORLAX Pokemon

>no archive posted for 2+ weeks
did he dieded?

>>15042206
Being a RUSTSUCKING beanpole peckerwood isnt Coo

>>15042206
Being a RUSTSUCKING beanpole peckerwood isnt COO

>>15042228
EARTHER

>>15042221
its over’

>>15042230
I am an ARYAN living in FLAT space far from any SHITBOX gravity wells

>>15042221
exam week right now I think, probably has to finish some projects as well
or its coming soon

LOL exploration upper stage delayed

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1601344995302297610

Oh no artemissisters...

>>15042251
it was a mistake apparently
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1601344995302297610

>>15042250
>>15042251
Foiled again by Berger’s shit reading comprehension

>>15042221
He was drafted and sent to Ukraine.

>SN8 launched 2 years ago
https://youtu.be/2hcs-QbD_DA

>>15042262

>>15042256
F for Finnanon ;_;

>>15042180
To be fair, a big reason they can't just launch and dock is that between the (actually working) SpaceX crew and cargo missions, the are likely to be no open docking points.
But even without that, they still have the problem of a limited number of rockets left to launch on.

Road closure on 16th
>anticipated testing activities

>>15042273
i love to see boosters stuck in the ground

Other than electron launching NET dec 13, what else do we have for december?

>>15042273
donde esta la biblioteca?

>>15042276
Hakuto-R M1, Japanese and Arab mission to the Moon.

>>15042079
>Elon say depot
>Starship blocked by FAAA until Shelby retires

>>15042279
https://www.cameroncountytx.gov/order-closing-boca-chica-beach-and-state-hwy-4-december-15-2022-and-in-the-alternative-december-16-2022-or-december-19-2022/

Would you travel to the moon/mars when the time comes?

>>15042284
If NASA (or some company) decides to train oil drillers as astronauts, then I certainly will.

>>15042280
Fuck, I had forgot about that.
>>15042284
I have no chance of going to space since the moment I was born as a thirdie without any outstanding skills or money. But assuming I have the means somehow, I would fucking go as long as it is not a one way trip.

Is Cost Plus Content anon dead?

T minus 31 hours
https://youtu.be/UaaF0IgzGSI

>>15042281
>until Shelby retires

https://spaceref.com/space-commerce/peregrine-aces-vibration-acoustics-testing-for-upcoming-lunar-journey/

Astrobotic let's fucking gooooooooo

>>15042310
Peregrine Aces Vibration, Austistic Testing for Upcoming Lunar Journey

>>15042310
>The landing legs are fixed
Someone tipped over in KSP

>>15042304
January 3, 2023.

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1601335130357780482
Aeon R gas generator test video. This engine has a ways to go, but it's definitely further along than Archimedes. They also did a WDR for the stacked Terran 1.

Anyone know of any good oldschool spaceflight documentaries on youtube? I love the comfy aspect of these archived films. As an example, this 1980s fearmongering nuclear war NFB Candada film is great. It overhypes every aspect of nuclear war but the industrial-style footage of ICBMs and soldiers in the bunker is great stuff. Plus the kino synth music at the end
https://youtu.be/dl4yW_X5xsk

>>15042319
>elon promises the best NYE party ever in the High Bar if it launches by the end of the month

>>15042330
>using the robotic assembly arm to do a champagne pour on a tower of glasses a hundred feet high

>>15042329
I think the Moon Machines one is on yt in parts

>>15042294
>thirdie
What the fuck is a thirdie?

>>15042347
someone from a third world country
also, welcome tourist

>>15042347
Someone from LA

>>15042349
>tourist
I was here before /sfg/ even became a general

>>15042347
You have to go back

>>15041403
He was a comedian before being president, in clown world you can never be too sure

The earth’s core is 2.5 years younger than its crust wtf

>>15042401
the fountain of youth was on Theia, haven’t you heard?

>>15042399
It's a Ukrainian national humiliation ritual to make them die for some gay comedian.

>>15041491
Post the real crew rather than this edit.

>>15041835
>I'm sorry I wasn't listening, can you repeat the question

>>15042434
kek

>>15041491
Is any of them capable of doing this?
I was promised it was going to be fancy art with the moon on the background, but now it looks it will be just a party for rich hipsters.

>>15042450
no theyre all cuckold voyeurs

>>15042347
Lives in a shithole country like the UK.

>>15042450
Starship will have no windows

>>15042455
and no women either

>>15042434
Lindy wearing his full suit of armor in space would be kino

both backups (plus one who isn't listed here) will fly
screencap this

>>15042475
certified retard

>>15042475
what do you mean by this

>>15042434
Thunderfoot being on dear moon would be honestly hilarious.
Even funnier if it wasn't voluntary and he just wakes up from a drug coma after launch.
He gets roped into a group live stream with the others and is just constantly getting mocked by chat and forced to eat crow.

>>15042486
Big Brother: In Orbit

>>15042486
They wake him up and tell him he’s in NASAs new Mercury II craft, and once he’s done gloating about how great it is they tell him he’s in a Starship

>>15042486
>spends the entire trip arguing that everyone's going to die on reentry

Rogozin is in this video lol
How’s he doing?

>>15042434
Abby Shapiro in zero gee would be great

>>15042455
Very based. You can see the Moon easily from Earth. It's being close to it that matters.

>>15042523
His current status isn't related to spaceflight.

>>15042523
why do they do this goofy shit, this is almost africa tier

>>15042499
We have to get Elon to fund this.

>>15042486
i want them to have a literal crow and i want them to strap him down and force feed it to him from the far side of the moon

>>15042543
I take it you've never seen an American defense industry conference.

>>15042555
the B21 reveal was badass. Fedor on a remote control quad at 3mph is not. even putin looked sad

>>15042562
Fedor is based what the fuck are you talking about

>>15042562
If you've ever had to sit through a "future soldier" presentation where some shmuck in digicam walks around with hydraulics taped to his legs you'd know what I mean.

>>15042567
fedor is total shit

>>15042570
i’m trans btw

>>15042570
>>15042567
>>15042562
>tfw named fedor

>>15042584
m'lady

>>15042527
We need to do this. For science.

>>15041884
a self sustaining colony moving at constant 1g acceleration could fly to a meme sized black hole in less than 100 years, settle in as low of an orbit as possible, and comfortably live until the heat death of the universe

we can barely go to the moon and retards waste time talking about colonies around black holes

>>15042629
The math wouldn’t be too hard to do, but i’m pretty sure by the time you flew out there on 1g, swung around something this big, and flew back on 1g the sun would already be a white dwarf and the earth would have been consumed long ago once you take the absolute fuckload of time dilation into account. This would only take 2-3 generations from your reference frame which is crazy

>>15042629
would something this big evaporate before you could reach the singularity? I’ve heard larger black holes evaporate quicker, and i’ve also heard you can comfortably cross the event horizon of supermassive black holes

>>15041884
>muh scientific data
I don't want spaceflight to collect endless trivialities about astronomical bullshit
I want spaceflight to get away from this shithole planet.

>>15042629
What would be your power source around the black hole?

>>15042644
tidal energy harnesser

>>15042644
Just bring 100 tons of uranium. The universe would an hero before you ran out of fuel

>>15042641
>i’ve also heard you can comfortably cross the event horizon of supermassive black holes
Yes, it's easy, but it's a one way journey. It's like getting pegged by your gf - there's no coming back.

>>15042649
Of course but you wouldn’t be instantly torn apart like you would with a smaller mass one. Just comfortably floating toward your spooky destiny watching the universe fold in on itself and play in fast forward

>>15042641
DAMN imagine falling in, the whole thing evaporating, and getting shat out in a universe where all stars have burnt out and maybe even protons themselves have decayed. Grim

Holy yikes.
One brap and every single one of Musk's experimental slaves are dead before even reaching Mars.

>>15042670
>implying that it won't have years of launches and landings by the time this configuration will ever happen
ok doomer

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-commits-to-future-artemis-moon-rocket-production

>NASA has finalized its contract with Boeing of Huntsville, Alabama, for approximately $3.2 billion to continue manufacturing core and upper stages for future Space Launch System (SLS) rockets for Artemis missions to the Moon and beyond.
>Under the SLS Stages Production and Evolution Contract action, Boeing will produce SLS core stages for Artemis III and IV, procure critical and long-lead material for the core stages for Artemis V and VI, provide the exploration upper stages (EUS) for Artemis V and VI, as well as tooling and related support and engineering services.

>>15042692
What keeps them from producing something like 2 SLSes a year?

>>15042692
holy grifting

>>15042695
NO! THEY HAVE TO BE IN ALABAMA!

>>15042692
>procure critical and long-lead material for the core stages
more like long-dead material

>>15042692

>>15042695
>8 billion a year on SLS

>>15041546
>simulation of the view floating in space to human eyes roughly 10^20 years in the future after all stars have burned out.jpg

>>15042749
don't get me wrong, I hate SLS, but if they are going to grift then why can't they do it frequently?

>>15042763
what do you mean

>>15042774
NTA but If Boeing gets $X billion per SLS, why not launch more per year to get more money?

>>15042692
>As part of the contract NASA may order up to 10 core stages and eight exploration upper stages total to support future deep space exploration missions.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15042798
It's not THAT much compared to the total cost of an outer planets mission, at least it's only ten. SLS + EUS has big fucking fairings, and easier complex payload integration, it's not 100% retarded for flagship science missions. It's got some limitations, but it fits pretty neatly into the current NASA structure. At least they've mostly given up on trying to push this as America's primary heavy / superheavy launch vehicle. They wanted to maked dozens of this piece of shit.

>>15042798
Wish they could put Europa Clipper back into SLS and just stick Orion in a Starship for Artemis 2.

>>15042805
Holy fuck when did they stick it on Heavy?
Why are they not using SLS for a direct shot? It's literally the only thing it's good for. Is it the goddamn SRBs again?

>>15041750
SpaceX is already getting MIC bucks for possibly using Starship for Point to Point rapid deployment

>>15042798
When is NASA gonna use hybrid vortex rockets for maximum BOOSTING?
Update your ICBMs, 'bama

>>15042284
This can't possibly work. If they can land this thing on the Moon why even bother with SLS and Orion and Gateway? Just load all the astronauts up on Earth, refuel and fly to the Moon directly.

>>15042808
>when did they stick it on Heavy?
what do you mean
>Why are they not using SLS for a direct shot?
IIRC it was because of the availability of SLS for Artemis missions plus something about vibrations, because of this it went to the Falcon Heavy and will take longer to arrive. Might be only time I got pissed that SpaceX got a launch, but again it's SLS' fault.

>>15042818
can someone please think of those poor defense contractors?

>>15042749
Based on the given contract 2 SLS a year would be less than 4 billion.

>>15042808
>Why are they not using SLS for a direct shot?

Literally billions cheaper.

>>15042818
>If they can land this thing on the Moon why even bother with SLS and Orion and Gateway?

Because Congress won't fund Artemis if it SLS/Orion isn't part of it.

>>15042808
The decision was made a while ago. Like 2-3 years now. It was an SRB shaking + cost + can’t do more than 1 SLS a year and they need them all for Artemis problem

>>15042827
They will do the first Artemis landing as the contract says, then say "fuck off" and do a bajillion commercial landings on their own dime

>>15042824
2 SLSs should be less than half a billion

>>15042820
>what do you mean
I was 90% sure Europa Clipper was flying on a direct trajectory on SLS, I guess I hallucinated it. Falcon Heavy really isn't suited for this sort of thing, somewhat annoying. It's possible the SRBs would simply destroy the orbiter though, they really limit what can actually be flown on SLS.

>>15042824
The contract isn't for a full rocket.

>>15042826
Heavy makes the mission only ~30% cheaper and SLS would cut the transit time in half. Sure, if you only look at the launch vehicle cost the difference in price is absurd, but these sorts of tradeoffs are something I'd be willing to make.

>>15042828
Annoying, that's pretty much the last reason for SLS to exist. Whatever, I give up, at least we'll have real heavy lift capability soon. The only reason SLS needs so much thrust is because Orion is fat as fuck, just split it out into three Dragon launches, and save 40 billion.

>>15042836
>that's pretty much the last reason for SLS to exist
Yeah. I’m not sure how Starship stacks up against a Block 2, especially for anything past the asteroid belt. I’m sure it’s pretty similar (maybe even better?) But it’s certainly better than FH, packing a lot of power but going with the measly kerolox upper stage. Lucky for me europa is less interesting than Titan and Venus so I’m not too bummed about the switch. Plus SLS is so fucking expensive i’m glad Clipper isn’t riding on it

>>15042836
>Heavy makes the mission only ~30% cheaper

Flying Europa Clipper on F9H instead of SLS literally saves NASA $2 billion.

>>15042840
If it means anything a Starship would blow the top off of even a Block 2 SLS for something like a Jupiter mission. Even WITH full reusability. You could send up your payload with a kick stage that outperforms Exploration Upper Stage

>>15042840
DIVH is always overlooked when this pic is posted. It makes me wonder if Tory would ever take a Vulcan Heavy configuration seriously. One day FH will be retired after Falcon is finally laid to rest, and that will leave only Starship as a heavier lifter as SLS will be overbooked for Artemis. New Glenn might be flying by then, but if Vulcan Heavy is cheaper than NG then Tory can cuck BO—AND throttle their engine production at the same time

>>15042855
I think Vulcan requires at least two SRBs when flying tanks full. Might be wrong. I know Vulcan can fly boosterless but aren’t the tanks partially empty then?
Two BE-4s have similar thrust to a single RD 180 (4800 kN vs 3800 kN)

>>15042857
I’m only basing this off the fact that ULA has shown Vulcan Heavy. Idk is this was just then being cheeky, or if it has to fly with partial tanks in order to do this. But I assume they crunched numbers at some point and figured ‘eh it could work in theory’
(I was trying to find that pic of tory with the model in the background but I can’t find it. I just crawled in bed and now i’m phoneposting)

>>15042860
Holy ESL I apologize for that post. I’m sure you can read between the retardation of my typos lmao

>>15042855
>DIVH is always overlooked when this pic is posted

Despite having a hydrolox upper stage the DIVH has less throw than an F9H. Read the NASA source selection, it is unable to do the Europa Clipper mission.

>>15042836
>I guess I hallucinated it
It was going to be that initially, but they changed it because Artemis would need those SLSes

>>15042862
Makes sense it’s essentially just a Block 1 SLS sans giant meme boosters and a sustainer stage, both of which get that DCSS (ahem, ICPS) a pretty hefty head start

>>15042862
I wonder how much that air force raptor upper stage would have improved FH

>>15042868
It was considered when SpaceX had only built a sub scale 1/3rd size Raptor back in 2016. The Air Force liked the smaller Raptor because it had a Merlin level thrust. SpaceX saw it as a dead end

>>15042860
https://spacenews.com/ula-studying-long-term-upgrades-to-vulcan/

Just a trade study, a "what-if" versus any actual plan. They note that there is no single customer or existing plans for space that could possibly need payload sizes that exceed even Falcon Heavy's capabilities

Just keep in the back of your mind that NASA tries to encourage companies to reuse vehicle designs they built and flew for somebody else (or developed on their own initiative) via "on-ramp" provisions. If the next-gen space station wants to go heavy, or somebody goes crazy for single-launch constellations, they'll fund this monster and NASA will suddenly find itself with more launch capability than they know what to do with, which is a good problem to have

It won't be sustainable because Vulcan will never be fully reusable, but it might be doable

>>15042284
Why are they wearing flight suits instead of actual space suits? Why does it look like the Moon has an atmosphere?

>>15042434
damn this would be based

>>15041491
>rhiannon adams
>photography artist
am i supposed to believe that bitch has an eye for beauty with a haircut like that?

https://yallpolitics.com/2022/12/09/senator-wicker-seeks-u-s-senate-hearing-following-musk-release-of-twitter-files/

Space flight related because Sen Wicker and Sen Cantwell are both part of the same space flight committee.

>>15041491
very racist setup, need more Tyrone and his BBC

i hope this bunch of 50yaks will make a touchdown to check out if the face of the moon is as soft at they say

>>15042434

i thought about this, but the team should be a lil more diverse

>>15042998
pretty sure Steven Hawking and pope John Paul are dead

>>15042998
Why specifically pope John Paul?

>>15043057
Poland can into space!

>wake up
>check news
>nothing happened
>at all
it's gonna be dead today isnt it

VA259 patch

>>15042998
>>15043005
and who's that other guy on the bottom row?

>>15041914
>be dumb
>make excuses for it
good way to stay dumb forever

>>15041937
USA?

>>15042478
>>15042479
There are back ups for a reason. The likelihood of some random "free thinker", photographer, african refugee, etc. changing their mind after several years, or deciding they don't like training, or deciding they have higher priorities is a lot higher than, for example, active duty US military officers and test pilots doing the same. Plus, at least one of these goofballs will be too stupid to finish training without hurting themselves.

I hope the Japanese girl goes, if only because the other two are ugly.

>>15042629
Where would you get the energy to accelerate a city to near the speed of light? If you say staging I will shit your pants.

>>15042763
>>15042774
>>15042785
Only so much funding is politically viable. They promise to produce the minimum necessary to capture all available funding, then go over budget and beyond deadlines to get more.

>>15043138
I haven't actually bothered to google it
4th most populous country, after China India AND The United States of America

>>15043158
probably the same place where you would get energy to live off of when orbiting a black hole

>>15041491
>entire crew is people who barely qualify for wikipedia articles
did nobody good apply?

https://twitter.com/nathanoseroff/status/1601315964980965376

>>15043255
Literally who?

>>15043261

>>15043209
Its called a publicity stunt for people whose careers are totally fucked, and want to engage the perceived risk (despite the real safety margin).

>>15043264
Looks like a faggot

>>15043255
>>15043264
I don't know who that is, why I should care what they have to say, or why you put this in front of the rest of us here today.
Well anon? Care to explain yourself?

>>15043279
I don't know. I merely pointed out that this is literally fucking who.

>posting shit takes from literal whos on twitter
never change, /sfg/

>>15043280
>>15043283
I demand an answer from the anon who posted
>>15043255
Account for yourself, coward

>>15043283
It's a 4chan-wide issue.

>>15043289
to show an anecdotal reaction to the crew, there seems to be a lot of skepticism towards it probably mainly due to the connection to Musk
I wonder if the general vibe towards Musk is going to change at some point

Dvach has jokes

>>15043302
tl:dr i was bored lmao

>>15043302
kys. you have to go back

>>15043304
they have pretty damn good ones. The way google crudely translates russian to english (combined with generally hilarious russian sayings and ways of talking) make me crack up
I peek in on dvach from time to time

https://twitter.com/planetdr/status/1601318399660826624

>>15043304
So how about that Angara putting stuff into proper orbits.

>>15043328
>landing date 2034
>this is assuming zero slips
It’s fucking over I simply do not care about this mission

>>15043336
It's an amazing mission to be fair. But yeah as a college student who could be married with kids by the time it actually lands I don't particularly care about its specifics.

>>15043336
>tfw you're in your 40s when dragonfly lands

>>15043302
I find your explanation lacking and deduct 10 points from you anon.

reddit is right, there is no plan to communicate with dearmoon. spacex will have to build out communications infrastructure first.

what's the largest apparent size in the sky of a celestial body in the solar system
I know the moon is really big but jup might look larger when you're standing on one of it's moons

>>15043417
Imagine going to the moon but still being forced to interact with e*rthers the whole time, revolting

December 10, 1964 (58 years ago)
• A Titan IIIA launches Transtage on its maiden test flight. This stage featured 2x AJ-138s
December 10, 2006 (16 years ago)
• STS 116 sees the launch of Discovery to the ISS. First Swedish and Scandinavian astronaut. P5 Truss Segment added to ISS

>>15043429
Goofy little bird

>>15043425
You will never be self-sustaining

>>15042842
Two billion is approximately what percent of six billion? The current cost has balooned to five billion, so the launch cost would be an even smaller percentage of the mission. I want direct missions and I'd be willing to pay for it, rockets aren't everything. If it was between Falcon Heavy and Starship, and Starship somehow cost two billion, there would still be an argument to be made to fly a direct mission on Starship to save years on transit and make the mission vastly more capable.

>>15043429
>>15043436
Looks stupid. Why is it shaped like a tit.

>>15043463
I have no clue. I’m not even sure how it brings a payload up

>>15043421
jupiter viewed from metis has an angular diameter of about 57 degrees. mars viewed from phobos also comes in really high at about 40 degrees because phobos has such a tight orbit.

>>15043475
I would have an existential crisis standing on phobos

>>15043478
>standing
>on phobos
[x] doubt

>>15043478
>>15043483
you don't stand on phobos, you dock to it

I wonder if once space stations are common place will there be a high g station that you could spend a few days at as a therapeutic similar to a sauna. Would there be any health benefits to stressing your whole body moderately through long term higher gravity?

>>15043268
>>15043264
I just know at this point

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/12/boeing-expanding-cs-prod/
>Boeing, the prime contractor for NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) Core Stage, is adding two new work locations at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in Florida as the company looks to support increases in the production rate of the launch vehicle. The completed engine section structure for the third Core Stage is being transported by barge from NASA’s Michoud Assembly Facility (MAF) in New Orleans to KSC, where Boeing will now outfit the most complicated element of the SLS inside the Space Station Processing Facility (SSPF).

>After the rest of the third Core Stage unit is completed at Michoud, it will also be barged to KSC, where final assembly will be moving into High Bay 2 of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at KSC. The large volume of the VAB High Bay will allow Boeing to store completed Core Stages without interfering with continuing production, which frees up more space at Michoud to expand operations there for production of the new Exploration Upper Stage (EUS) for the next generation of the SLS vehicle.

Article says Boeing thinks they can do 2+ per year with the new facilities

>>15043518
>$8.2 billion per year

>>15043429

>>15043417
I point this out whenever someone asks me what the next big space opportunity is. A private DSN will be needed if anything leaves Earth orbit that isn't government-backed, as actual DSN time is expensive

The only question is are they going to do it in orbit? It's not like there isn't precedent, there are enormous sigint satellites as well as just simple telecom ones up there that could do something like what is needed

So is Lockheed going to build MADV or what

>>15043524
kys gervaisposter

>>15043554
TBD, probably not. National Team is either going with MADV or they are just going to stick what is essentially an Orion hull on top of a blue moon (this could technically be a MADV but it would require a huge blue moon stage which BO is not going to do)

>>15043550
Yes either laser or radio dishes on a few Starlink V2. Really not that hard now that they're setting up for hosted payloads anyway.

>BO’s National Team Artemis page doesn’t even have a lander shown
>Literally just a map of the US with contractors
Beyond gay and sovless, and pure congressbait

>>15043568
>no nebraska
>no north dakota
This is completely unacceptable. I can't believe the have the gall to call themselves the national team and leave out such important states.

>>15043336
Get used to it lol, planetary missions work in the scale of decades

>>15043568
i dont get it, it's like they havent changed strategy at all. and it worked so well the first time

>>15041750
SpaceX has never developed an aircraft (no F1, F9 and Starship don't count). When they were gonna air launch F9 they had stratolaunch do the plane.

>>15043591
New Horizons and Lucy were launched with the expectation that several people on the team will retire before the missions reach their destinations

They specifically recruit new postdocs for the science teams to carry on the work

>>15043581
Complain to your congressman about it

>>15043592
To be fair their problem wasn’t congressional district stretching last time (if anything this helped them secure a second chance with SLD in the first place)
Their problem was that they were too expensive and NASA had no money

>>15043500
If you want a high g environment why do it on a station? A centerfuge on earth would likely be better. Now I could see stations having progressive rings where you start at 1 g and work your way down to lower g. And the opposite for moving up to prepare to return to planet side. I could see a higher g being used to shorten the time. Say a week in 1.5g before going planet side instead of a month at 1 g. Something like that.

>>15043615
Anon the goal of space flight autists is to get the cost/kg down so low that you can do shit like this in space just because you can
Plus I imagine at some point it would be way easier to build a giant spin station in space compared to an equivalent machine on earth. Way less stress on the hardware your size isn’t really limited. There’s probably a limit when doing it on earth or some other gravity well like mars or the moon

>>15043550
https://www.intuitivemachines.com/lunar-data-services
behold

>>15043615
Because getting a constant acceleration in one direction on Earth that's greater than g is pretty much impossible. I mean maybe in theory you could spin it at a variable rate such that the vertical component of the centripetal acceleration always overcomes g, but in practice it would probably have noticeable variations and lead to motion sickness.

>>15043641
The soviets build an artificial gravity spin experiment and ran it for months (years?) but it’s just way more complicated to do this on earth after a certain size and duration

Has someone Everyday Astronaut's spreadsheet saved? The one we vandalized

Could you slap a space plane on Starship and some boosters on the side and have that be a cheaper space shuttle?

>>15043741
Why not just put a space shuttle on top of the booster

>>15043750
Why not just tape two space shuttles together and have THAT be the heavy lifter?

>>15043660
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15IUqIstCg2n8r8jMvI9O8Yqjm8cdlaHj_E-yS5TsjQ8/edit?usp=drivesdk

>>15043750
What if you put a Space Shuttle on top of the booster, but widened it to be the same diameter as the booster for more cargo capacity? There's no real runways for it to land on, but you might be able to flip it at the end of the glide once you've burned off enough speed and land it propulsively, could be worth looking in to.

>>15043741
Starship is a space plane

>>15043750
It would be like 1000+ tons of propellent short of reaching orbit.
>>15043758
What if you take a spaceplane and remove the the wings because horizonal landing is an unnecessary complexity that only hurts payload? Is there a name for something like this?

>>15043753
The Soviets actually thought about using a modified Buran-class as a liquid fly-back booster for one of their orbiter proposals.

>>15043768
Horizontal landing is an unecessary complexity, but you still want wings for aerodynamic stability during re-entry and landing. They just don't need to be as big. Think of something like a dart, maybe with some control surfaces near the tip. You still want a large heatshield surface though, like the shuttle, so maybe stick some thermal tiles on one side.

The fact that SUSIE has crew AND cargo shows it’s already not going to be cost effective, because if it were you could afford two launches to do crew and cargo separately

>>15043772
What the fuck

cursed Space Shuttle tshirt I just saw at Wal-Mart