/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15022748
what

>>15022756
OP is a faggot. Even more than usual.

What do people think of once-around quasi SSTO (aka no circularisation, one orbit landing back to the launch point)? If you're not sending people into space, that seems a better choice, you need less systems for long in orbit stay, you have a built in quicker turnaround, you have a higher payload, and it's not like most payloads are supposed to be sent to a reference 200km circular orbit, and a SSTO's performances collapse pretty quickly with each additional hundred of m/s of dV

Pic related, yuro drop test demonstrator of an early 90s hopper project.

>>15022784
late 90s- early 2000s* sorry

>>15022784
No

I just built an SSTO spaceplane that can reach the Moon and with enough fuel any part of the Solar system.
Why can't NASA and SpaceX keep up with me?

>>15022797
why? Your full-SSTO is basically going to be useless at anything but sending tourists and cubesats into space.

>>15022813
>I just built an SSTO spaceplane that can reach the Moon and with enough fuel any part of the Solar system.
That's clearly not RSS.

> there is a photo of WvB in a spaceplane but no photos of him in a capsule
capsulefags are done here

>>15022815
Because it's the basis for space fighters.
Good luck trying to get off Earth with my ships raining hell on your fragile, fuel-filled rockets.
And if cargo is the problem I have a cargo design too.

Space will be mine.

>>15022784
If you have a first stage capable of doing most of the grunt work for reaching orbit already then just make it the reusable first stage of a heavier launcher. This still means dealing with most of the reentry concerns and inefficiency of an SSTO and would still force anything you're launching to have an upper stage with decently high thrust to weight.

What will go wrong?

>>15022828
But then it won't be able to land back at the same point, so you need another downrange landing site, which slows reuse (unless your downrange landing site is another launch and processing site), and it limits the launch inclination. You also run the risk of having a low launch TWR which may make it non-viable without adding more engines.

>>15022836
That seems too complicated, and doesn't seem like it'll achieve much beyond going to the Moon and back.
Here's my concept art for a mission to invade the Moon.

>>15022836
>SLS scrubs multiple times in a row and HLS loses too much fuel to boil-off waiting in Lunar orbit

>>15022842
Is there ANYTHING that can beat the Space Shuttle in aesthetics?

>>15022840
>But then it won't be able to land back at the same point
I mean, if you're going with a space plane design it should be able to glide back to the launch site after getting pretty far out there. Or just use some leftover fuel on a retrograde burn like Starship is planned to do.
>You also run the risk of having a low launch TWR
In the most literal sense possible maybe. My point was that a launcher like you describe would have a significantly worse payload fraction than one which just acts like a 'normal' reusable first stage. The first stage plane/rocket itself could be scaled down and still launch more mass into orbit.

>>15022846
You are worried that the one flying a flawless mission is too unreliable compared to the ine that keeps exploding?

>>15022861
The way it's structured, actually yes. Starship can take as long as it damn well pleases but once it's in lunar orbit there's a time limit. Of course this rests on the assumption of Starship being able to launch fairly consistently.

Fuck capsulets and fuck spaceplanefags. Dedicated SPACE ships are the best

>>15022853
Space shuttles full of hot chicks.

>>15022825
His "ferry rocket" was a spaceplane, no less:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AuRjJ0Gfs

>>15022853
Should have added a parachute at that point

>>15022909
The indifferent cruelty of the universe when the indomitable human spirit launches to orbit anyways

>>15022836
this might actually be the best approach. spacex gets alot of launches for starship, we get a fuel depot, sls contractors get paid, we get a space station around the moon, and nasa gets a ton of cargo options for a moon base. everyone wins.

>>15022819
Irrelevant.

>>15022927
best *realistic* approach where SLS has to do something to keep artemis funds flowing, yes. SLS was supposed to be crew launcher, gateway builder, cargo launched, and lander launcher. 75% of this has now been delegated to SeX which is a HUGE reshuffle
Best overall approach would be the death of the orange rocket and doing commercial crew vehicle (granted this would probably delay everything by like a decade. But it could probably be done with dragon some way or another sooner)

>>15022836
>NRHO
>SLS/Orion
It has already gone wrong.

:^)

>>15022931
Merchant
Purchase
Goy
Wrong
Refund
Nope
Problem
Solution
Knife
Friend
Calming
Polite
Alternative
Offer
More
Careful
Threat
Close
Whisper
Laugh

>>15022935
berger posted an article earlier where it was suggested that dragon will be the one carrying astronauts to starship hls instead of orion

>15022942

>>15022748
>Welfare queen
Oops, wrong image

>>15022855
My other point is that downrange landing suck, there's a reason why F9 tries to do RTLS anytime it can, and Starship is planned to do it. But doing so limits your payload since you have to cancel all your velocity and then add it back the other way around, wings can help you, but that has repercussion on the whole design. So the question is where are the sweet spots in logistic, economics and design between the extreme of SSTO and the TSTO doing RTLS?

Clearly there's a first one in the 1.5-3 km/s of horizontal speed that the falcon 9 uses at MECO which allows downrange landing a few hundred km which is logistically manageable from the cape with barges, but it comes at the drawback of a huge S2 that is heavier than many launchers. If you try to increase the mass ratio between S1 and S2 then you inevitably will have a downrange landing further away, you can also manage with a simple transatlantic flight with a landing in Europe/Africa but it limits inclination choice and you still need to bring the booster back. So there *must* be a point where the hassle of landing the booster thousand of km away isn't worth it and you bite the bullet and design a quasi-ssto that can come all the way around earth, either on a purely ballistic trajectory or a mix of ballistic and glide.

Reusable solid boosters that self-recover by helicoptering back.

Y/N?

>>15022961
Yeah I saw it. What the hell did he mean by that lol. If starship ends up with enough dV to return to LEO without TPS/aweobreaking I will shit my pants. That will be one powerful fucking rocket

>>15023026
NO
quit throwing out absolutely retarded ideas.

>>15022748
>CIA front
that's jeff benis

>>15023026
YES
keep throwing out absolutely based ideas.

>>15023028
>If starship ends up with enough dV
Has anyone done the math? We know the isp of Raptor 2 and the mass of HLS can be estimated.

>>15023026
So Roton with a SRB?

>>15023021
>there *must* be a point where the hassle of landing the booster thousand of km away isn't worth it and you bite the bullet and design a quasi-ssto that can come all the way around earth
Honestly I don't think there is. The upside of a multistage design is simply too high and the cost of needing to turn around (or be recovered elsewhere) is way less than having to go almost all the way to orbit.

Anything going on today?

You should read it.

>>15023081
I will open pdfs on /sfg/

>>15023081
Oh, I forgot to change the name.
>Critical Analysis and Review of Current Mars Mission Scenarios for SpaceX Starship

>>15022853
Why not just flap it's wings?

>>15023059
quick calculations that might be wrong:
It would need ~10,000 m/s of dv. Launch mass of 1300 tons and ISP of 400 for the engines would mean it could have around 100 tons of total dry mass total. I'm going to say it maybe could do it but not with its full stated payload. That's also pretty much best case scenario.

It could also be used to carry Dragon all the way to lunar orbit and then put it back into an intercept with Earth's atmosphere which I think is a more reasonable mission plan.

>>15022853
x-70

Seems like there was an ~20 min long global Starlink outage

>>15023081
DLRs logo is so simple yet so elegant

>>15023064
it would have worked idk what you fags say

>>15023081
>deboonking musk's ramblings
low hanging fruit really

>>15022748
Fuck jannies. Fuck rape ape. Fuck gook moot.

in how many hours are the SpaceX launches

>>15023081
>German Aerospace Center

>>15023158
>Falcon 9 | HAKUTO-R Mission 1, Thu Dec 1, 2022 08:37 UTC+0
Now convert to your time zone and do the math.

4hrs till Neuralink livestream event

>>15023105
And if you squint, it's almost swastika

>>15023169
>Now convert to your time
that's why I asked in how long so I don't have to do the hard thing

>>15023172
TASTY
BANANA
SMOOTHY

>>15023076
unrelated to spaceflight but if you care about elon related stuff, neuralink update is happening in 4 hours and is going to be streamed with a Q&A

>>15023175
lol

When is Zubrin going to get back to Mars instead of riding the Ukrainian train forever?

>>15023172
inb4
>elon is late
>'order of magnitude'
>'production is hard'
>'the machine that makes the machine'
>'no monkeys were tortured, I love monkeys'
>'it's going to blow your mind'
>'symbiosis with AI', 'merging with AI'
>'incredible talented team', constantly praising his employees
>commercial use in the next 5 years
>will cure tinnitus
>comments on how it can simulate sexual pleasure, elon giggles
>analogy with phone already being an extension of our hands
>talk about input speed, thumbs too slow
>'AI is dangerous'
>'please apply', 'the main purpose of this is for recruiting'

>>15023196

>>15023196
Dr Z would be quite a controversial figure if he were a billionaire like Musk.

2 more time units

>>15023202

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH I FUCKING TOLD YOU PRINTING WAS THE FUTURE. EAT IT

>>15023254
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-icon-advance-lunar-construction-technology-for-moon-missions
>https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-icon-advance-lunar-construction-technology-for-moon-missions
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-icon-advance-lunar-construction-technology-for-moon-missions
>https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-icon-advance-lunar-construction-technology-for-moon-missions

>>15023199
For me it was the lady at the starship update who asked a long winded question, followed by awkward silence, followed by:
>I zoned out

>>15023081
>Starship Mars colony debunked because SpaceX isn't developing mars life support yesterday
You know, the world has 9 billion people that could do something about it.

>>15023081
I didn't read it.

So, Tesla must be building that secret lunar rover that will be used for the Artemis missions as we speak, right? Or what happened to that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YreDYmXTYi4

2 hrs

>>15023342
You mean cybertruck?

>>15023346
Ok, so it will most probably be some Cybertruck variant? Reusing lots of same components, makes sense I guess.

>>15023342
the lunar rover WILL be built by the legacy contractor GM

>>15023081
academics get the fucking rope

>>15023342
gem

>>15023342
>Musk: We will bring Tesla to the Moon
>NASA: BUT YOU DIDNT WIN THE COMPETITION
>Musk: Yes and?

>>15023365
>nooo you can't just bring a modified tesla for the astronauts to use, it's not safe. complete a 1-million-page review, wait some years and we might consider letting you do it... only with a complete different design approved by NASA™
I can already see it. Maybe Yusaku or some other billionaire can just pay for dearmoon2 and play bumper cars on the Moon.

>>15023254
>The contract runs through 2028 and has a value of $57.2 million.

>>15023375
JPL will offer Moon rover for $4 billion.

>>15023377
Its actually a lot for a small company. Not only would they make profit, they'd bring back prestige to their company which would boost their valuation/investment grade.

Why are there 2 different European space agencies with overlapping and non overlapping members?

>>15023411
ESA is made up of European countries, a few contribute, most don't. The other is some EU retardation, like most EU retardations.

>>15023411
>EUSPA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Agency_for_the_Space_Programme
huh, wasn't aware of their existence

>>15023081
>This achievement would pale any human spaceflight mission that has occurred in the past six decades
>the past six decades
Those Germans are hiding something, something big.

>>15023411
>european
>european union
there
Uk, Switzerland, Norway are in esa, not euspa

>>15023426
Six decades ago was 1962. Gagarin became the first man in space in 1961.

>>15023426
>>This achievement would pale any human spaceflight mission that has occurred in the past six decades
>>the past six decades
It will be by far the most important and significant achievement in the history of our species.

>>15023437
Wow, we put people on a frozen irradiated rock, so great! Wowzers! *everybody forgets it happened with three months*

>>15023411
>>15023425
The initial aim of the European Union (EU) was to make the European Space Agency (ESA) an agency of the EU by 2014.[8] While the EU and its member states fund together 86% of the budget of ESA, it is not an EU agency. Furthermore, ESA has several non-EU members notably the United Kingdom which had left the EU while remaining a full member of ESA. ESA is partnered with the EU on its two current flagship space programs, the Copernicus series of Earth observation satellites and the Galileo satellite navigation system, with ESA providing technical oversight and, in the case of Copernicus, some of the funding.[9] The EU, though, has shown an interest in expanding into new areas, whence the proposal to rename and expand its satellite navigation agency (the European GNSS Agency) into the EU Agency for the Space Programme. The proposal drew strong criticism from ESA, as it's perceived as encroaching on ESA's turf.[9]

In January 2021, after years of acrimonious relations, EU and ESA officials mended their relationship, with the EU Internal Market commissioner Thierry Breton saying "The European space policy will continue to rely on ESA and its unique technical, engineering and science expertise,” and that “ESA will continue to be the European agency for space matters.[9] If we are to be successful in our European strategy for space, and we will be, I will need ESA by my side." ESA director Aschbacher reciprocated, saying "I would really like to make ESA the main agency, the go-to agency of the European Commission for all its flagship programs." ESA and EUSPA are now seen to have distinct roles and competencies, which will be officialized in the Financial Framework Partnership Agreement (FFPA).[9] Whereas ESA's focus will be on the technical elements of the EU space programs, EUSPA will handle the operational elements of those programs.[9]

Basically, a beurocratic grift, as all EU endeavors.

>>15023432
If they left out the Moon landing I assume they'd leave that out too. It's much more likely that they know about Hitler's secret Pluto bunker.

>>15023411
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Canada collaborates with ESA.

wir waren

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1598106762850500609

>>15023377
That is a lot for a small printing company.

>>15023529
disappointed yet again :(

>>15023529
fucking piece of shit

>>15023202
well at least you picked high quality content for your shitpost

>>15023529
SpaceX is FINISHED! ITS OVER.

>>15023343
40 minutes

>>15023624
also, sfg is dead

Neural-link is a dead end and waste of time.
Do not chip beings, never chip brains.

>>15023633
Wake up, David. You're in a coma.

30min
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598127347932090370

>>15023643
we get it

>>15023445
>irradiated
retard

>>15023625
There's nothing happening.

>>15023343
>>15023643
This better be some actual cool shit with human testing.

>>15022853
Starship is a spaceplane
Q.E.D

>>15023658
Depends on what you mean by cool shit. The r/d is cool by itself. The product being on human would be cool next stage of development. Last year it was the money's turn to dance. Today, I hope its a human.

>>15022813
NASA can't clip parts

>>15023019
obviously the fact that those companies are welfare queens makes spacex not a welfare queen.
>/sci/ - Science & Math

/sfg/ bros, I saw a quick flash of light going down the sky a few minutes ago. It was green, with a tail and lasted for a few seconds. Was it a shooting star?

>>15023019
Welfare gods*

Every dollar that goes into SpaceX, SpaceX competitors get $1000.

Final correction before last moon flyby underway

>>15023019
Besides Boeing, all of those companies are functionally just extensions of the US government.

And that's a good thing

>Waiting on Neuralink
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15023019
I get fucking mad when people go "hurr rich man get subsidies" while everyone else gets away with THIS
>Verification not required.

>Elon is late
what a surprise

>>15023694
Its not because "rich man bad" but rather "rich man who voices his opinions and disagrees with our stupid ideology BAD"

>>15023658
>>15023646
>>15023643

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YreDYmXTYi4

So what ever happened with the Near Earth Asteroid Scout that was launched via Artemis a few weeks ago and never heard from? Granted it was just a cubesat but it's still a JPL project. You would think something put together by JPL wouldn't fail so easily.

>>15023658
probably still monkes. Maybe monke bro spells the gamer word with his mind.

two weeks?

>>15023720

I stayed up for this and now its going to be like 50 minutes late or something? lmao
why didn't i just watch it in the morning

Blue Origin just reached orbit!!!

>>15022840
>>15022842
>>15022826
>>15022815
>>15022784
all were faggot

>>15023682
...and again

IT'S LIVE

>>15023701
It's happening.

MUSIC

ITS HAPPENING

>>15023694
lol, same with old legacy automakers, they were quite literally bailed out, but people would rather be angry at Tesla, the green, eco-friendly, EV company, for taking that $465m federal loan 13 years ago, even though they repaid it 9 years earlier and with interests. And let's not forget about that whole fucking scandal where almost the entire industry was falsifying emissions tests, giving two shits about the environment. Do people care about that? Nah, Elon's jet's fuel consumption is more important, let's boycott Tesla instead wtf

2 mins

>>15023739
Majority of people dont have principles, they just virtue signal to the tune of [current thing]

>/sfg/ - neurology and AI

That's some good music

>https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1597458584232939525

ELON WHAT THE FUCK

something is happening finally

>email notification sound
lmao

>>15023749
i like tentacles

>>15023753
>literally the Matrix

>>15023411
typical europoor bureaucracy and fucking around while wasting money and accomplishing nothing

>>15023753
Reminds me of 17776

>>15023694
I recorded this webm

Nothing more comfy than watching a spaceflight, or tangentially spaceflight-related livestream with sfg anons.

This sounds like Clustertruck music.

>>15023768
Anons reacting to quirky or otherwise noteworthy events during livestreams makes me crack up

>>15023779
Is there any other board with a thread going?

One thing I love about Musk's companies, is that all their keynote intro music is genre savvy as fuck and on point. No one else holds a candle to this.

>>15023783
any other board or general is going to be filled with pseuds and conspiratards

>>15023783
/g/ and /pol/

>>15023779
/sfg/ is the only thing that beets the WSB shitstorm for me

>>15023788
>>15023789
confirmed

>>15023783
/pol/ has one, half full of scizos, /g/ has one, half full of commies

>>15023768
this is about as tangiental as it can get, at least with Tesla you can bullshit about rovers and batteries on Mars

The music okay, but I feel like it's going to be a letdown after this much blueballing

>>15023788
>>15023789
Spot on

>>15023789
>/g/
Elon man... BAD!

>>15023793
>>15023801
Kek

>>15023789
>>15023794
It's too bad /x/ isn't getting in on the action. There's some real potential for fucked up shit in neuralink's future

>>15023785
It really sells what kind of business he wants to do. I can't think of other rocket launchers with music this good during their streams.

>>15023795
If you can't imagine a connection between a brain-computer interface and space flight then you probably can't imagine an apple in your head either

>>15023798
They'll probably show some cool R&D stuff, but nothing that mind blowing. You have to be realistic with your expectations.

>>15023795
but this will let us bring our waifus with us on the way there

NEURALINK INVENTED PREDICIVE TEXT
wait this isn't a /g/ apple keynote thread

>>15023795
>implying Starships aren't going to be controlled by neuralink

>>15023795
That just means you haven't learned how to think like Elon yet. Remember: Everything is related to Mars.

Finally

>>15023795
telepresence operated humanoids, powersuits.. idk maybe

starting at last

>>15023104
Hmm, what could bring down the entire network but a software deployment fuckup

I wonder what this one will be about. Hopefully we can extrapolate to the point of shitposting about Martian cyborgs. Oh hey musk man is there.

>>15023783
There's a thread on /gif/. No, wait, that's just the usual monkey torture thread.

Will it be kino?

>w-wwe-were-I'm g-gonna

>>15023019
>>15023045
>noo, spacex is not a welfare queen company and elon is not a CIA front!

>>15023820
Tesla bots. Remote controlled human-like workers.

>Presents Joe Rogan being controlled by a chimp

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1598106762850500609
>After further inspections of the launch vehicle and data review, we're standing down from tomorrow's launch of @ispace_inc's HAKUTO-R Mission 1; a new target launch date will be shared once confirmed
When will it launch?

>>15023821

anyone else made popcorn and finished the entire bag before Elon even started talking?

Daddy's here :D

Oh fuck his mind is already in la la land, too much autism

Is he going to put AIs in people's heads?

Oh no. Please don't lead with "let's allow the AGI to enslave us."

It's cool and currently their business model is "sell armless people an interface for computers" to reinvest in the Neuralink project.

>>15023838
Clearly he doesn't have Neuralink installed

>>15023827
HE IS JUST LIKE ME

>>15023834
no i dont buy popcorn outside of the movie theaters that have the best quality stuff available

https://twitter.com/FutureJurvetson/status/1598144528979922945

I wonder if Elon banged her

>>15023843
Hahah

>>15023790
>WSB
I remember my sides went to Pluto's orbit due to laughing so hard after reading the comments during that 1-million-mile battery livestream, oh god kek

>>15023846
In-vitro fertilization. He donated the sperm, she donated the eggs and there was a surrogate that produced twins.

>>15023846
ivf

>>15023850
He can't keep getting away with it!

love their short-term goal, and I think that's a much better direction to take the product as a whole. Just the idea of being able to solve some brain/spine injuries by using this is insane

>>15023846
Uuuuuh is that a chair? Are they going to strap musk into a chair and install neuralink into his head on the livestream?

>>15023852
But what if she was the one who said "I want to have your babies"?

LOOK MORTY

when non invasive option?

Oh God.

He is so reddit it hurts

Ok, this is epic

wow he watches Rick & Morty? He's just like me!

IM A PICKLE
PICKLE RIIICK
jesus

puking rn

>rick morty
fucking reddit man at it again

Oh no...

OH FUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>15023861
100%

PICKLE-POWERED STARSHIPS

goodbye frens, currently dying of cringe

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>>15023861
He's covering all his bases. Plebbit for the masses and turning twitter into a Antarctica Ice Shaping Forum.

There he goes.

>>15023861
definitely the pure essence of an older reddit. Like ~2010-2012 reddit.

>I could have a buttplug in RIGHT NOW and you wouldn't even know

But how good is the ping tho?

I'm both easy and hard

Move that fucking screen a little more to the left, it triggers me.

>>15023884
0

What the fuck did I miss

>>15023883
delet this

this autist is gonna cause the armageddon and people are applauding him

6 months for the first human experiments, but how long will it take to get FDA approval?

>no humans yet
It's shit. Go home.

>Going to the moon, very hard
It's over, he admitted it

>>15023892
not my problem if you see yourself there anon

I'll sperg out a little, what are Scott manet politics again? Is he the typical libtard who happens to like space shit?

>6 months
see you guys in 2030

I feel like an ultragigachad knowing that I can speak much more eloquently than Elon Musk.

>>15023899
This stream is now spaceflight

So it was the monkey writing that text, not a human

/sfg/ - show-and-tell forum general

>>15023908
bit disapointed its not human, but surprised monkey was doing this

>a quadriplegic or tetraplegic human

I hated these things in System Shock 2

>>15023903
I think he is like a 2010 atheist who went to general mainstream progressivist politics after the atheist movement died down.
He is not a psychotic queer but vaguely goes along with it because academia supports it for example.

They had it match that sentence too, right?

Uh oh now the blind rights activists are going to go after him

>sort of like a StephenHawking type situation
Bwahahahahahahahah

monkey likes doing the demo
does not need to be strapped in
name is Pedro

>>15023926
That would be a major achievement actually. Stephen Hawkins ability to write a sentence ran at a rate of 1 word every minute. Getting that down to say even 5-10 seconds would be absolutely huge.

I wonder if they can make an army of neuralink-equipped monkeys to mass produce Starships

>>15023931
Oh I know. It was the first thing I thought of (literally, Stephen Hawking came to mind first)
It's just the way he phrased it that made me laugh

>>15023921
yeah
they prompt the monkey via video and it uses its mind to move the cursor to the highlighted button

>>15023931
It'd be neat to give invalids their natural abilities back, but never stick these accursed things in the heads of able bodied men.

DJ DADDY IS HERE

>Matrix comparison
let's fucking go

>>15023936
Why can't a mentally healthy adult be free to choose brain chips?

>>15023933
Gotcha.

>>15023936
I would suspect that by the time the first real journey to Mars where people are sent, they may be optionally asked if they would like Neuralink interfaces so that they can stay connected with the Starship and hab/rover at all times. I would bet that even SpaceX's starship space suits towards along the late 2020 timeline, would probably be integrated with neuralink hubs.

>>15023783
/n/

>>15023939
Many zoomers havent seen the original Matrix

>>15023936
>Chop your limbs off to reduce mass and metabolic rate
>Restore ability with Neuralink
The future will be mecha astronauts

>>15023940
You can choose heroin if you want to, it doesn't mean I'd recommend it.

>>15023946

>>15023946
Dystopic but not a terrible idea

>>15023950
The kino EVA suit

>>15023950
thankfully his nipples were spared

>>15023952
kek

If Neuralink works out SpaceX won't be needed anymore. With Neuralink we can spend all our time in exciting virtual worlds instead of suffering the hardships of space. This also resolves the Fermi Paradox.

>>15023945
When every mentally deranged schizo makes reference to the pills it doesn't give me a desire to watch. Every fucker from nazis to commies likes to use that comparison to validade their bullshit.

>>15023950
2050's most able-bodied ESA astronaut

>all right who wants to go first

>Who wants to see some insertions?

>who wants to see some insertions

>"who wants to see some insertions?"
oh yea, now we're talking

>>15023950
Are these hooks capable of manipulating a self-facing shotgun? Asking in case something bad ever happens to me.

who wants to see some insertions, anons?

Live demo of the surgery robot on a brain proxy

>>15023956
hahahahahahahahahaha
faggot, stay on earth loser, we don't want you anyways.

>>15023959
kek
>>15023964
he could probably manage with some string and tape

remember guys, you have no pain receptors in the brain, so you wouldn't feel any of this

>>15023971
Thanks Elon

first insertion

>>15023966
Reminds me of the old copypasta about Zuckerberg touring a detroit auto plant and buying it out to impromptu convert an employee into a "man-car"

>>15023961
>>15023962
>>15023963
>>15023965
hivemind, we'll become one with neuralink

>>15023971
can we add some?

>Neuralink production in Austin
>Giga Austin
>SpaceX

Oi

>>15023963
Bold move
>so this is what it will look like when the robot is punching holes into your brain

be honest, would you all become early adopters if given the opportunity?

>tfw I live in austin
fuck all of you, I'm getting a gen I
East coast, west coast, and flyover state fags need not apply

>>15023985
if I couldn't move my arms I would

>>15023985
no, that's what the disabled are for

>>15023985
No

>>15023936
just want a non-invasive cap that you can use to jack into powerarmor. Tesla PMC soldiers will be outfitted in these.

>>15023985
No.
I'm going to be a very late adopter, if I'll ever.

>>15023967
The problem is that I and most other people will stay on Earth in our virtual worlds. You won't have the labor force or industrial base to build space colonies and what not. Neuralink and other similar products will be far more appealing than the most addictive opioid drugs and it's already damn near impossible to get people to stop doping themselves up.

I wish Boring Company presentations were like this as well :(

No neurajunkies allowed in the /sfg/ o'neill cylinder

What the fuck is this guy saying? What even is this accent??

>>15023994
this. I mean we have fucking Lasik available right now that's safe and reliable and I'd never have to worry about glasses/contacts for 20+ years. And I still haven't scheduled an appointment

>>15023985
I will never adopt this vile abomination, I'd rather die a savage with my mind intact and my own than live with this sickness.

smartphone, juul, tesla (etc) batteries explode occasionally. Kek imagine your little neuralink battery popping after too much time online
Or more dystopian: imagine someone like rogozin got an implant and spacex sent a message for it to self destruct

>>15023950

who are these shouting people
shut the fuck up please

>>15024001
all frogs are irredeemable

>>15024001
I think he's a frog

holy shit it's a white guy

So fucking weird how similar the curser movement is to a regular mouse

>>15024001
monkey training

>>15024011
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's fr*nch.

>>15024005
I mean, almost everybody has their phones with them all the time 24/7 nowadays. Not much different, though it would be a head-shot in this situation lol

>>15024003
what if you were paralyzed?

wtf, his name is pager? I thought they were saying Pedro

God damn, 7bps. That's pretty good in a year to 2x the performance. But, they need to go from 7bps to around 1Kbps. That would likely give you enough to actually manipulate your phone like a normal human. You probably need ~1-500Mbps to be able to control the body.

>>15024015
he's just like me...
(fuck you we're whiter than you)

>>15024017
I would hold my breath and suffocate myself

Bros, I have to be honest, I'm scared about the bronies. Remember that time Carmack read a pony fanfic about a pony AI taking over the world by putting them all into a virtual world? With stuff like this >>15023995 I think they're actually a legitimate danger.

OI VEY GIVE BANANA

finally a white guy with a normal voice

>monkey language

>>15024024
thats pretty gay dude

>>15024030
Actually, it's called AAVE now.

>>15023979
California lost all these and more

BLISS CHADMAN NOW IN STAGE

>>15024031
>nooo you have to remain in the flesh prison until you naturally expire!
Nah

>>15024035
I suspect that Elon will eventually move Twitter HQ to Texas.

>>15024031
speaking of gay dudes...

Ayo this is fucking cool, it's all just a bunch of software problems

This keynote is fucking amazing. It may not shit over decades of BMI interface, but its basically Carl Sagan's explanation-ing what has been locked away inside of university research labs for decades and behind super complicated and wordy papers, to the masses. For that reason alone, Neuralink is gonna shit all over the BMI market. It's breaking the academic elitism wall that has existed in this field for decades.

>>15024039
yes, embrace the freedom of merging with the machine

>>15023956
I'm going to have a full-brain interface while also experiencing the hardships of space

Gigachad Avinash has arrived

could you use a neuralink to continually give yourself orgasms?

>>15024035
California is literally becoming Hell on Earth. Even the shittiest middle class house costs $1 million and then you have to put up with homeless people encamped everywhere and human feces all over the sidewalk. Also running out of water.

>>15024057
Once they figure out which parts of the brain is tied to which nerves in your dick or clit, and can MiTM the process; then yes.

>>15024050
>university research labs
>locked away
>academic elitism
Maybe if you're a brainlet but then why would you care about this presentation.

Hooooly shit this is amazing

>>15024053
You'll have to stay near Earth otherwise the latency will be too great for a realistic virtual reality experience. Might as well just stay on Earth.

>>15024057
can't wait to see death by orgasm when this glitches, lol

>>15023985
Only if I became disabled

this sounds just like the pre-mainstream adoption conferences for VR/AR tech

>>15024057
Dude you are the dead end, this guy >>15024053 will inherit the universe

>>15024067
there are actually people who have dozens of involuntary orgasms a day, and they say it's absolute hell

feeling like AI day 2.5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirehead_(science_fiction)

>>15024057
you would just need to cum with it in a couple times, so it could replicate the brain patterns

>>15024051
The machine can suck it, I will hurl a sharpened stick through its face.

>>15024057
Hedonists were right. It all will come down to us implanting ourselves with reality-simulating devices for the sole purpose of bringing us pleasure.

N
1

Imagine people who get paid in good feelings

>>15024084
We swear it will work the 5th time. .

>>15024085
I will go hunt/gather in the wilderness if this is the future, no thanks society I'm out

>>15024083
oh 100% that'll happen, at least for a non-minute portion of the adopters. Not everyone is shackled by the pleasures of the flesh though, there are still some explorers in our species

>>15024085
it's the pride and satisfaction of keeping the board clean

What the hell is this accent? Aussie who has lived in America too long?

The one other moat that Elon has created that most people don't realize, is that he's forcing all these people across Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and soon Twitter, in the way HE thinks with all his autism on full blast. So every person that works at his companies and then leaves to build their own companies, is basically creating alternate equivalent of the original Musk companies. Which then like a virus, is spreading that style of thinking across the country and world.

Look at this shit: https://www.figma.com/file/WO90O5hVi53C0zATfEhHlN/Tesla-%2F-SpaceX-Alumni-Map

Keep an eye on all these companies for the next 10 years. Especially for investment opportunities if they IPO.

>>15024089

>>15024066
who says I'm interfacing with the internet?

>/emg/

>>15024092
https://airtable.com/embed/shrckYHg4jnVHad0b/tblh79NYEcpqeKGIc?backgroundColor=blue

Grid version.

>>15024083
>>15024085
>>15024088
>hedonists become paid in pleasure so that they become useful worker drones
>normal people continue living good lives
This sounds great.

why am I still watching this? I have an iq under 100, literally none of this shit is being captured in my brain

>>15024088
I meant any kind of pleasure. For instance, the pleasure of exploring and discovering the vastness of the cosmos. You could simulate all that and, on top of it, block or erase your real memories so that the experience feels more genuine and basically no different from actually doing it.

>>15024098
hell, I guess if you can neuralink a garbage man to make shit smell good it doesn't sound that bad

>>15024099
Apply to be a test subject to unlock those last 10 points Anon

>>15024099
after the 10th version of this is put in your head, you will too understand how it functions
humanity will become cyborgs

Me with my neuralink AI gf (I haven't left the house in 62 days)

hi josh

>>15024100
I was more talking about turning violent retards into useful human beings.
>make shit smell good
Probably just make it not smell bad. There's probably a reason we evolved to not desire to smell it. Don't want to encourage doing things that might cause harm.

>>15024087
There will be no more wilderness. The entire Earth's surface will be covered with tenements and shacks just like the Kowloon Walled City. Inside these miserable hovels will lie billions of motionless people hooked up to Neuralink. They awaken only to eat and shit/piss before plugging themselves back in to live as gods in their virtual worlds. Sometimes they don't even bother with getting up to relieve themselves but in their virtual worlds they don't notice the smell.

>>15024105
Digital Tulpas. . .

>>15024101
makes me think this shit will inevitably have to be regulated, wouldn't do the powers that be any good for all their worker bees to be in a slack-jawed paradisaical trance sitting on their couches at home

lol elon is shitposting on twitter, I guess all of this is old info to him so he doesn't care

>>15024111
Not in our lifetimes unless Elon brings out the mechawomb omega x next presentation (100 reuses)

>>15024111
A fate befitting of the e*rther menace

>>15024105
>okay you see this? This anon is a retard. He thinks space planes will work. Here I’m opening up wojack_62.png. Now I’m replying to him

>>15024114
his spiel at the beginning was just a big recruiting effort, nothing more

>>15023765
17776 is required /sfg/ reading

All the biotech companies around the world right now are probably like: "FUCK FUCK FUCK, WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT OUR SHIT LIKE THIS COMPANY, WE COULD HAVE HAD THE PUBLIC ON OUR SIDES."

>>15024105
Digital waifus will be standard issue on Starships to keep the crew sane enroute to Mars.

>>15024124
I dont think any other biotechs do anything like these. Neuralink isn't a regular biotech company. Its a combination of Tesla/SpaceX mindset applied to the company. A highly unique company.

https://youtu.be/SNaaHvSkP2Q?t=1208
>mars starships will need moon roggs to safely make the journey to get mars roggs

god damn dat ass Christine.

I thought she was barefoot for a second there.

I want her to remove my meningeal membrane, if you catch my meaning

this was much more impressive than I thought it would be, the level of detail is on par with AI 2.0
these probably work well as a recruiting effort
also allows the actual engineers to get themselves out there instead of just elon talking always
too bad something like this is probably impossible for SpaceX due to ITAR

>woman
I sleep

>woman comes on
>cringe levels spike

>Everyone in the CIA is watching the stream

>>15024094
You could build a vr host supercomputer anywhere in the solar system but you could only interface effectively with the ai npcs and the few other people who live out there. Virtual worlds still need people and most people will still live in the Earth/Moon system. Even the Moon is too far away because the round trip communication lag is about 2 seconds.

>>15024111
All cool and dandy until an asteroid hits the planet and there are no more simulations nor any gods. So I suppose such a civilization, if they really care about keeping on living their best dreams, will have to at least assure their existence in the real world. That's why sci-fi stories like Matrix don't make much sense, zero space capability. Unless we are already talking about some Type III civilization that have ascended past chemical bodies and are just some giant, condensed energy being spread throughout the universe that has merged all individuals into one, or something like that.

>women comes on
>number of people watching the stream spikes

>>15024136
Every alphabet soup agency on the fucking planet is watching this stream.

>>15024132
Seems like a weak spot. The bit with the implant is literally a hole where the skull is missing.

>woman comes on
>my dick spikes

>>15024110
>I was more talking about turning violent retards into useful human beings.
racist

she's cute

>>15024142
yeah, I was wondering about that, too.

>>15024138
>All cool and dandy until an asteroid hits the planet
This explains the Fermi Paradox

>>15024148
back off, elon probably called it.

>>15024152
>probably

>woman comes on
>switching from insert to abort and back at 20 Hz

Holy shit this has got to be the woman that gave elon her eggs. This is a spitting image

I volunteer, mommy

holy shit stop

>tfw no awkward half asian neuralink waifu

>>15024152
The harem grows

What did she say? I zoned out

>>15023698
>>15023739
if leftists had morals, they wouldn't be leftists
this has been the case since the dawn of that perverse religion

this is how we survive the Dark Forest, space travel and interstellar messaging will never be attempted again

>>15024158

>>15024161
kek nice one

>>15024163
>dark forest
Never bring that pseud shit to /sfg/ ever again.

>>15024142
>>15024149
they'll fix it when they get closer to actually making the thing

>>15024168
cam awn man, there's no spaceflight discussion at this hour

>>15024161
I don't see myself in there

don't care, not getting it

>>15024172
The success of this platform has HUGE implications on the future of space travel. This is a worthy divergence.

any space art bros in here?

carrot top went blonde

Holy shit red blood cells are huge.

they did surgery on a grape

>>15024174
don't care, you're getting it

>they did brain surgery on a grape

bruhhhh they did surgery on a grape

>>15024176

Tungsten coated in what?

holy fuck. They're living up to Elon's magnitude order improvements on every front.

>>15024035
California is minority white. It was obvious that it would happen.

Just remember that there will be a thunderf00t video debunking this by tomorrow

>>15024191
Texas isn't exactly a bastion of whiteness either.

why are they cutting through people's skulls if they can just implant it into grapes?

>>15024188
I heard an i, maybe iridium?

>>15024174
you will get the brainchip and be happy

>>15024194
They're working to change the process to avoid doing that, specifically by avoiding to puncher the dura.

People don't realize how close we are already. Direct brain link will push this over the edge. Welcome to Cyberpunk 2022.

>>15024137
Your imagination is stunted

>>15024188
Uranium.

imagine the smell

>>15024188
cum

My mind is blown from the presentation so far. This is off the charts amazing.

>>15024137
I'm sure there will be some way around it, eventually.

>>15024198
Cyberpunk 2077 is a pretty good timeline desu. It only sucks for the E*rthers; humanity is developing and prospering better than ever in space.

>Leslie
I would

>>15024161
kek gross elon wouldn't touch that woijickckckckci yenta

Man this whole project is a whole sets of engineering challenges from all different sorts of fields