/lit/ - Literature

>>20622072
increasingly thinking he's locked and cope

He's right. Nietzsche didn't want to hear the truth about God because he didn't want his illusions of self-grandeur destroyed.

>>20622072
>keyed
I’m killing myself tonight, this is it. I’ve lost all hope

>>20622086
lmao you sussin

>>20622084
More like the other way around.

Also, stop coping, Christfag

>>20622086
Locked

>>20622084
Spbp

>>20622108

>>20622072
>people don't want to hear the heckin' truth!
Ok nietzsche, and what makes you the authority on what the truth in any more than a drunken bum in the street

>>20622108
Thinking Christianity is a cope is cope.
Also nietzche destroyed the possibility of truth/falsehood in his worldview, so that quote is incoherent.

>>20622574
Truth is relative but fear of it being shattered is common and that fear drives a tremendous amount of human behavior typically in the form of various institutions

>>20622634
The fuck are you talking about? The entire point of christianity at all is that it's literally the most effective form of cope.
>dude so what if my life is shit, i am poor and fucked up, and i have no power? This life doesn't matter, i'm sure my humble existence means that i will spend eternity in paradise because the man with the nice words said so!
Giga, giga, giga cope. You should read The Genealogy of Morals. Even just the first part should do you good.

>>20622086
I'm bussing on myself tonight. I have so much hope

>>20622084
True.

>>20622924
Objectively not “the point” of Christianity.

>>20622924
really hate the assumption that everyone wants power above everything else

>>20623029
wasn't the will to power supposed to be an explanation of why if the will to life is our main driver people will risk their life in wars in order to win power?

>>20622084
All that 'self-grandeur' was nothing more than a self-mocking pose you nitwit.

>>20622072

>P-PLEASE USE KEYED WE NEED TO MAKE /tv/ RELEVANT AGAIN

yes. he knew following ones dreams was based, and following the dreams of others was cope. always has been, always will be.

>>20622084
This.

>>20623623
so this is the kinda stuff that goes on in /tv/ huh?

>>20622108
You must be 18 to post here

>>20622634
>Thinking Christianity is a cope is cope.
This. Even atheists wish they could have faith because it's just an objectively better way to live your life.

>>20622574
he actually has a book on that

>>20622072
He really was a brainlet stream after all

>>20622072
he's the poor man's Max Stirner.

>>20622072
Wow, that's deep.

>>20622086
do a flip faggot

>>20622072
No

>>20622084
Your church is full of grifters and pedophiles. No one trusts you.

>>20622084

>>20622084

fpbp

Nietzsche lived the incel life. Thus Spake Zarathustra is isekai.

>>20627094
I like neetzsche but still lost

>>20622924
>Giga, giga, giga cope
Holy cope. Stop being so resentful and just let people enjoy Christianity if they want to

>>20622084
Based. Nietzche's disdain for slave morality was itself animated by another more insidious form of slave morality

>>20627183
>j-j-just let people enjoy things...
>thinking christianity is something to be "enjoyed"
Dumb LARPer. You try so hard to pretend you're a christian because of le cool aesthetics yet you don't even understand what the teachings of your religion are all about.

Have you sold all your shit and donated it to poor people in africa yet? No? Haha you're burning in hell, dude
>Matthew 19:24
>Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

>>20627239
>nooooooo you can't do that! You have to play by the rules I've set for you and weaken yourself
Classic slave moralist mindset

>>20627268
Rules "i've set"? These rules were set by the very son of god of your own religion and are written four different times in your own holy book, dude, LMAO. If you don't wanna be weak then you should've never decided to follow this slave moralist jewish nonsense to begin with.

>>20627277
>Rules "i've set"?
You're literally quoting scripture at me like a schoolmarm, retard. Stop being a resentful slave and let us Chad Übermensch Christians do our own thing

>>20627320
>chad übermensch
>christians
LMAFO.

>christianity chad übermensch, dude
>WAIT WHAT DO YOU MEAN CHRISTIANITY LITERALLY PREACHES SLAVE MORALITY AS THE HOLIEST OF ALL VIRTUES? STOP!!! LET ME LARP IN PEACE!!!

I've never laughed so hard in my entire life. Good job, anon. Even if it's bait.

>>20627239
It's funny how quickly Nietzscheans become Bible-thumping fundies in arguments with Christians. Nietzsche himself often wrote about how the Christians, in a resentful mode, would often use their enemies own principles against them.

>>20627380
>dude you HAVE to play by the rules you set for yourself (which I'm now setting for you (but I'm still not setting you rules)) so I can defeat you easier!
>nooooo you can't break the rules! That's incoherent! That's unfair!
Sad, slavish mindset--Nietzsche would be ashamed. Where's your vitalisitc spirit? Honestly, you just sound resentful at the fact that the Christians defeated the slavish pagan heroes you slavishly idealise. You should *turn away* from this resentful mindset and instead happily affirm life

>>20622924
>>dude so what if my life is shit, i am poor and fucked up, and i have no power? This life doesn't matter, i'm sure my humble existence means that i will spend eternity in paradise because the man with the nice words said so!
This sounds like an incredibly powerful and motivating mindset. No wonder why the Christians conquered the pagan world.

>>20627386
>having knowledge about the religion you're criticizing is bad
You're simply mad because it's irrefutable proof of my point and of what Nietzsche said: Christianity is 100% about slave morality.

>>20627436
You're clearly not a christian. You LARP as one because in your head, christianity is something powerful, "the strong and mighty christian conquered their enemies". Very Nietzschean. Ironically enough tho this is the exact opposite of what the christ of your religion preaches, lmao.

>Matthew 5:38-41
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
>Matthew 5:44
>But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

You cannot deny this. It's written in your own holy book and the dude who said it is the god of your religion himself, preaching literal slave morality, TOP KEK. All your talk of being a "devout christian" is nothing but LARPing. You don't even know what your "christ" himself said. ROFL!

Also
>saying anything bad about christcuckery means you're a pagan
Lmaoing at the strawman.

>>20623043
Who risks their lives in wars? Random soldiers who happen to be working in the military or happened to get drafted with a huge variety of beliefs and motivations and characteristics culminating in different views about the war, competing sources of information and the current conditions and state of the war itself, etc. And yet not a single one is motivated by power.

>>20623043
>>20628482
You both have a retarded understanding of the word "power." It's not this anthropomorphized meaning referring to human social dynamics when Nietzsche uses it. Everything, literally everything, even a hydrogen molecule, possesses Nietzsche's will to power. It is the drive to grow and dominate what is "outside."

>>20622086
That's selfish, please take OP with you.

>>20627196
kinda obvious.
> mmuuuhuuuhuuuu... christian morality annihilated everything else... muhuhuhuuuuuu

>>20622634
>Thinking that you can magically survive your own death by confessing your disobedience to an apocalyptic jewish faith healer who died to pay a debt that mankind made when a riblady was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple is a cope
>is somehow the actual cope.

Beyond parody

>>20622084
this. nietzscheans are all some weird neopagan/atheist larpers who are spiritually dead but attack others to hold to their faith.

>>20628995
If you held your faith then nobody would care, instead you try to push it unto others like some drug pusher, don't cry when there is a blowback, retarded christcuck.

>>20628995
>attack others to hold to their faith.

Why would anyone need to? Have you given away all your possessions yet as you await the arrival of the apocalypse that could occur at any moment?

>>20626934
Atheists and pagans don't actually believe in the sanctity of children. Your brand of puritanism is only a guise.

>>20622084

what books was he talking about a coming world war.

>>20627508
>noooooo you can't do that! Follow the rules! Make yourself weak!
Slave mindset

>>20628995
This. And atheists/pagan larpers have higher suicide rates, fewer children, lower life satisfaction levels etc. yet somehow Christianity is the sad, slavelike death cult. Not to mention the fact that the decline of Christendom is correlated with all manner of degeneracy like trannies. Indeed, the tranny is the ultimate transvaluation of values, the ultimate Übermensch.

>>20628995
>>20630047
You're fighting as ghost.

>>20622086
That's kinda locked bro

>>20622084
Christ-fags seething makes me feel so much joy. First poster also fucking lol

>>20630561
You will never be a woman.

>>20622086
fogpilled

>>20630561
>

>>20622072
>Adorning ones upper lip with such a massive fagduster
>Had sex ONCE with some prostitute and died a siph-infested raving looney

No wonder incels love this old timey, miserable turbo autist. Lmao. Lmfao even.

>>20630047
Literally all of this is shit you just made up on the spot.

Also, your Messiah had no children, hung around with hookers and was tortured to death. You'd probably classify him as a degenerate as well.

All of that is besides the point though, as the real reason Christianity is dying is because Christtards do none of the things they demand from others, so why don't you go look in a mirror if you want to see the causes of decay, dipshit

>>20631305
Oy vey, you sure showed that filthy goy, Joshua.

>>20631305
Thank you, rabbi

>>20631338
>>20631381
>All of that is besides the point though, as the real reason Christianity is dying is because Christtards do none of the things they demand from others

Here's the central point again, if you don't adress this, I'm going to assume I'm right and I will accept your apology

>>20631395
>you MUST argue within the parameters I set or I win
Or I could just laugh and call you a kike.

>>20631404
No, you should adress what I said, not what your faggy alt-lite cringe worldview wants me to say.

Now, are you going to adress my point, or are you going to admit that I'm right?

>>20622072
He's spooked and illusioned

He's locked.

>>20628995
There is literally no group that isn't "spiritually dead" in 2022 no matter how hard they cope. Secular materialism won, deal with it.

>>20623623
You can't be serious, right?

>>20623623
I thought keyed was from left/pol/

>>20631411
No I don't think I'll do either you pilpuling coin shaver.

>>20631450
Okay, then I'll just assume you're fully aware you're full of shit, and accept your apology. Thank you

>>20631537
I too will accept your concession and return to Israel.

>>20631395
You're going above and beyond the call of duty, rabbi. Thank you again

>>20631549
And you don't adress my point, almost as if you're fully aware you're full of shit

>>20631544
I thought I was supposed to be the Jew

>>20631646
>semitic semantics
This is literally why your great grandfather died twice on the masturbation rollercoaster before your mom was born.

>>20631688
No dumbfuck, you clearly just made a mistake here >>20631544

You clearly wanted to tell me to return to Israel, but now it appears as you're going to do that.

That's great, haha

>>20631625
>address my point! Not an argument! Not logical!
Sure thing Mr. Shapiro

>>20631338
>rabbi
>>20631381
>>20631404
>>20631450
>>20631544
>>20631549
>>20631688
>>20631942
Based
>>20631797
>>20631646
>>20631625
>>20631537
>>20631411
>>20631305
Cringe

>>20629992
If you don't wanna be weak don't convert to religions that preach weakness. It's as simple as that

>>20632154
>preach weakness
>conquers the pagan world
curious

>>20632225
The church did that because they aren't christians. They're glorified pagans who are driven by the will to power just like everybody else--they don't follow JC's teachings of slave morality when it isn't convenient for them. Church and christianity are not the same thing. Christ himself literally said this:

>Matthew 5:44-45 - But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven [...]

"Conquering" the enemies is a contradiction to this teaching, and therefore the Church is not christian. Any denial of this fact is cope.

>>20632249
>They weren't *real* Christians--they broke the rules!
Lmao. Nietzscheans becoming Bible-thumpers before our very eyes

>>20622084
>Nietzsche didn't want to hear the truth about God
You're right. He was a devout Christian as a young boy and the death of God was quite devastating to him, so much so that he had to become his own god to cope with the loss of an all-unifying principle.

>>20632249
>Love your enemies
Nothing contradictory there. The Christians demonstrated a profound love for the pagans by permanently putting them out of their misery

>>20632508
That was cringe ngl

>>20632500
Nietzsche mentions the bible the entire time during all of his work when he throws shit at christfags.
The fact that literal atheists know more about the "holy book" than even the people who claim so strongly to be devout followers of it should be telling. 4chan tradfaggism is all LARPing.

It's bizarre the phenomena that happens before our very eyes these days: 4channers who are supposedly christians actually follow the philosophy of Nietzsche (strength and power as virtues), and twitterfags who claim to be atheist actually follow the slave morality of christianity (muh love everyone and strength is bad). The "christians" are the new nietzschean atheists, and the "atheists" are the new christians.

>>20632512
(you)

Many people make the mistake of reading what the Bible says in Exodus 20:13, “You shall not kill,” and then seeking to apply this command to war. However, the Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice; murder.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12, 15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11). So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but only murder. War is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a necessary thing. In a world filled with sinful people (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Sometimes the only way to keep sinful people from doing great harm to the innocent is by going to war.

In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to “take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). Deuteronomy 20:16-17 declares, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them…as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Also, 1 Samuel 15:18 says, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.” Obviously God is not against all war. Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).

Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).


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It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?

War is a terrible thing. Some wars are more “just” than others, but war is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). At the same time, Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, “There is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17). The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to conflicts, and praying for a minimum of casualties among civilians on both sides (Philippians 4:6-7).

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>>20632532
Who cares what a zoomer fag like you thinks?

>>20622072
>Nee-Chee: I don't believe in God bruh! No Cap!
10 years later...
>Nee-Chee: DOIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIiiii! I iz DioOOOONYSOOOOOOOOOOOS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
HAAHA
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AHAHAHAHAHA
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This Polish retard literally refuted his entire life's work by his own example.

>>20632683
You don't understand Nietzschean philosophy

>>20622072
He's a bit wrong;
People RARELY want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

I'm gonna need to hear the truth though, (unless it'd get me in trouble) because I'm sick of this shit.

>>20632712
>I'm gonna need to hear the truth though
the truth isn't something a person can tell you

>>20632719
>the truth isn't something a person can tell you
By your own logic, you must be lying then.

>>20632712
truth about what

>>20632734
I can create a sentence too, that doesn't make it have meaning
the truth is something you learn, it isn't something someone tells you or something that you can preach. it isn't something that anyone confidently attains. can I "teach" you enlightenment?

>>20622072
People who protect their beliefs are only hosting parasites. True beliefs are invincible to scrutiny.
>>20622084
Neither Nietzscheans nor Abrahamics.

>>20632749
>made up Plato quote
>is a pagan
>has childish beliefs
Checks out

>>20629517
Well fucking obviously Athiests and pagans don't believe in the sanctity of children, since "sanctity" is a religious concept to begin with. This is the basic argument christians use of
>how can athiests be moral of morality comes from God?
Which is just laughable to someone who doesn't already believe in it to begin with. Even Kantian arguments can refute this dumbass "problem".

>>20622084
holy based

>>20634500
>so many words to say you support grooming

>>20634835
For Kant, "goodness" follows "rightness." What is good is good because it is the expression of a rational will, because it is achieved in accord with the universal principles of reason. The protection of children from sexual perverts falls within universal reason as it can become a categorical imperative. Wanting to see children safe and protected is then a product of human reason.

>>20632694
Mall ninja shit

>deleted my old keyed memes folder because I thought I wouldn't need them anymore
>see this thread

>>20635149
>ever deleting anything
There's your mistake.