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7162142 No.7162142 [Reply] [Original]

Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22HD, Cintiq Pro 27 - Make sure they have VESA standard mounting holes.

Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 8 years, nothing has changed. Consider reading the amazon reviews, particularly the negative spectrum and you will find some very common themes.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>New iPads
Massively overpriced and overhyped.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

Previous: >>7147562

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>> No.7163249

>>7163139
The nibs are designed to be replaceable, Samsung is just kikey and doesn't include any replacement nibs
If you really want to avoid replacing the nib then you could always get a titanium nib

>> No.7163251

>>7163139
the rubber tip that comes with the S Pen is very hard to wear down against the bare glass surface of the tablet
once it does wear down you only really have two options, either the staedtler noris digital replacement nibs or wacom elastomer nibs, both are priced about the same so try both and see which one you like best

>> No.7163257

>>7163251
What is the difference? I suppose the elastormer are going to feel more, gum like, than the original on the s pen?

>> No.7163258

>>7163257
No the elastomer still isn't as rubbery as the original but it's the closest thing feel wise. The staedtler noris nibs are also slightly rubberized.

>> No.7163304

i hate waiting for my new ipad
i just want my rotating brushes nigga



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7162102 No.7162102 [Reply] [Original]

>Be me
>43 followers on Xitter
>Create KEK fetish art
>I say that I'm gonna develop a visual novel
>VN is about said fetish
>I open patreon for the VN
>25 followers pledge on my Patreon right away
>They pledge the $30 tier (highest tier)
>I'm suddenly making $750 passively
>Min wage in my country is $274.59
>Now I can quit my day job and focus on art
>Feels good anons

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>> No.7162611

>>7162131
>>7162322
>>7162344
NTR
>>7162364
I'm gonna be honest, I changed some info so autistic niggers don't dox me thru Graphtreon.
>>7162364
Yup
>>7162379
Just do it
>>7162384
Did you just call others low IQ and put a sad emoticon along with it? You're a foid.
>>7162385
You're 100% a femoid
>>7162386
Exactly
>>7162388
Now that I think about it they're an Asian woman.
>>7162391
Dumb bitch
>>7162393
Another woman or samefag
>>7162406
Yup it's samefag

>> No.7162615

>>7162102
>mom, dad, when I’m a grown-up I will be a cuck artist who draws cuck porn for other lonely men!

>> No.7162871

>>7162611
what a pathetic sad little man

>> No.7162892
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7162892

>be OP
>be huge faggot
>make personal blog post
>"yeah gaise if you do this u gon make le money because i did"
>doesn't post blog
>doesn't post patreon
>implying it isn't obvious what this porn addict is trying to do
You found a treasure island and you're sharing the treasure with all of us? how generous
almost makes me want to draw NTR porn so that i can get massive patreonbux

>> No.7162897

>>7162385
As a neckbeard sperg I can confirm, I do just walk up to people and ask them if they like to see anime girls tortured and raped and sometimes dismembered, with their brains extracted and placed into servile sex robot bodies that are then forced to call me Master until I grow bored with them, at which point I throw them in an incinerator along with a huge pile of limbless latex encased highschool girls who had their eyes and mouths and nipples surgically modified into vaginas.
I think it makes me somewhat unique in the universe and unique is always valuable, yes.



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7162087 No.7162087 [Reply] [Original]

Should I keep going with this shit?

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>> No.7162171

>>7162087
is this loss?

>> No.7162178

Relatable. You painted these? If so then yeah, keep going yo.

>> No.7162252

>>7162087
a picture worth more than a thousand words, well done op

>> No.7162254

>>7162087
he's just like me fr

>> No.7162306

>>7162087
Hey, I remember those. I think you should keep at it. Looks cool.



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7162003 No.7162003[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why is AI art so trash and makes mistakes like this?

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7162053

>spamming



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7161941 No.7161941 [Reply] [Original]

>get a batch of commissions for 500$
>I'm so self-critical that never show them and keep making edits
>client gets tired of waiting after 6 months and moves on to another artist
>despite being almost done, I still don't show what I got, I lie and tell him I didn't do any art because family stuff.

I fear criticism to the degree it's a mental illness

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>> No.7162732

>>7162265
Well no shit they refunded if you don't deliver on commissions :s poor people commission too

But yeah the trick is just to remember that non-artist commissioners like me really don't know enough about art to be hypercritical about this stuff, and 9 out of 10 times prefer faster delivers to something that's 100% perfected

>> No.7162770

>this thread again
>as always, bo work will ever be shown
>gullible fools still buy that shit

>> No.7163174

>>7162257
Ai mogs me though

>> No.7163185

>>7161941
Show the art, faggot

>> No.7163244

>>7161941
What's wrong with you. Not trying to be mean. Theyre commissioning because they cant draw well. Just show them your damn work and get your comms done no more than 3 days to 1 week after payment depending on project size. This is ridiculous anon.

Either you want to get paid or you close comms up and dont open them until next year.



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7161897 No.7161897[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

so brave

>> No.7161898

nice artwork and critique cunt

>> No.7161899

>>7161897
this just lessened my hatred for women for a moment, perhaps I won't beat my wife today



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7161823 No.7161823 [Reply] [Original]

Struggling to move over to digital art its fucked. Did my homework on the wiki, been following the ctrlpaint webseries to no avail. I use kritia, somebody help me out setting up some brushes.

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>> No.7161942

>>7161866
the most difficult thing for me to get used to was the difference in feeling with a tablet pen on smooth surface versus a pencil catching the friction on a piece of paper, once muscle memory got used to it i had a much easier time
>captcha: RGAY0A

>> No.7161960

>>7161838
op clearly can't draw trad either, stop coping

>> No.7161973

>>7161838
*prompts*

>> No.7161984

>>7161870
I knew about the stabilizer but this is my first time learning about the dynamic brush tool, holy fuarck this is life-altering

>> No.7162016

>>7161867
Yep, the tool is not your problem.



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7161747 No.7161747 [Reply] [Original]

can someone please red line me? im struggling fml

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>> No.7161916
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7161916

>>7161747
i'm not an expert but, gave it a try

you can probably work a bit more on overlaps to increase the 3D effect and a bit of study for deeper anatomy.
the drawing is pretty good in general, i like it.

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7161920

>>7161916
>bonus gif for before and after<

>> No.7161958

>>7161920
thanks. can you suggest anything for deeper anatomy studies? like this was insanely difficult for me cuz i dont do much weird perspective. i also had problems finding references, i only had one and it was ai and i knew the anatomy was off already. my only almost reference is eric from the little mermaid throwing the spear LOL

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7161967

>>7161920
this was my ref to kinda go by lol. shit quality

>> No.7161982

>>7161958
can't give a long answer right now, gotta wake up early. but basically:
learn it from good refrence, books, video courses, etc. you have download threads around here.



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7161713 No.7161713[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

This is my failed attempt
How do I try to start all over again.
I found that Loomis was too complex
Should I do drawabox again
I am so lost and confused on how to start again and where
I want to be a pro


WHAT COURSES TO USE? WHAT TO USE TO DO IT RIGHT AND IMPROVE THIS TIME?

>> No.7161721

>>7161713
Have you grinded your 2000th floating loomis head?



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7161705 No.7161705 [Reply] [Original]

How come I can get away with drawing Gwen Tennyson on Twitter but any other loli sends people into a seething rage? What is it about this character that makes internet people forget their moral crusading against my art?

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>> No.7162475

>>7161705
literally just draw her, the fuck are you whining about

>> No.7162491

>>7161828
its been 20 years my god

>> No.7162701
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7162701

>>7162491
Got me feeling like that one episode

Seriously why do people like the regular gwen when the older version exists? and the design is way cooler

>> No.7162830

>>7162432
But we're talking about hypocrisy. I don't actually
agree with any of these people. The lines for what fictional character you can and can't draw are clearly arbitrary. Also different versions of Daphne and Velma are portrayed younger, so I think they still count.

>> No.7163250

>>7161705
Because people with brainrot inhabit the internet and seek valudation, aproval and a sense of belonging from eachother, also some people simply like to get pissed off at bulshit.
Just think of how dumb you can be and realise that there are people much dumber and less self aware then you



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7161662 No.7161662 [Reply] [Original]

Should I attend life drawing, or is drawing from photos just as good?

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7162114

>>7161792
real life colors (seen with your eyes) look different than in photos and cameras. Even with high quality photos you will not be able to get some colors that exist in real life. Best way to notice this is when you try to take photos of a sunset or other phenomena where the sky is illuminated in a subtle way. It's almost impossible to replicate that unless you've seen it with your eyes multiple times.

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>> No.7162144

>>7161686
That looks like one oh morpho's anatomy books

>> No.7162147

>>7161808
get 3d models from realistic games like ff7 remake or tekken 7/8

>> No.7163154

>>7162144
No, probably is one of the vilppu books or any of those ancient art books on the sticky...



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7161660 No.7161660[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

ANYTHING THATS ON UR MIND RIGHT NOW GO!



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7161645 No.7161645 [Reply] [Original]

Make nsfw makes you learn anatomy and upgrade your skills.
You do not only make money out of it, you gain popularity that attracts companies.
Only idiots like pic related belive the contrary.

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>> No.7162846

>>7162802
Every single person typying UOH in twitter is a deranged pedophile with 50gigs of cheese pizza in their phone. They're not random trolls shitposting loudly, not at all.

>> No.7162848

>>7162809
And now they're alcoholics, or junkies or gamblers. Because addicts are failed people, not victims of stimuli.

If you put them in a padded room they become addicted to banging their head against the wall.

>> No.7162868

>>7162848
Are addicts fated to be failed people by genetic predetermination? Should they attempt to change, or should they just continue to self destruct? Is the idea of a "failed person" simply another self-defeating self-soothing blackpill and a means of shirking one's responsibility by offloading the cause of one's failure to externalities?

You failed at your dreams. Oh well, it wasn't your responsibility anyway, so you might as well keep failing. Why change when you were doomed from the start?

Do you see where this mindset inevitably ends? It's a self fulfilling prophecy, every time. This is the mindset of the coom artist, the alcoholic, the junkie, and the gambler, because they are indeed suffering from the same impulse control problem. But ask a junkie or a gambler or an alcoholic that knows they have a problem, and they will admit that continuing to do what they've always done is not healthy. They want to change, and those that make an effort are rightly regarded as noble.

Coom artists stay stuck in the denial and bargaining phase for longer than the average junkie because it takes longer to bottom out. When they do bottom out (and they always do) that's when some sort of change can be made. Spit back out the blackpill and take control of your life.

What baffles me about coom artists in particular is that they're good artists. They KNOW they can grind their way to a skill, they know that with enough self control and willpower, they can create and evolve their skills. But when it comes to the matter of their porn addiction, they just can't seem to apply the same self evident logic. "Yeah, I can be a great porn artist because I have great self control and skill to draw, but I will never be able to stop my addiction to porn because I'm genetically incapable of it, I'm a failure, I'm weak, I will never succeed so why should I," etc.

It's a fucking waste. Imagine the varieties of meaningful works these artists could have made. Squandered on anime tits.

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7162913

>you aren't allowed to criticize porn if you produce porn
>you aren't allowed to criticize porn if you were addicted to it
>you especially aren't allowed to criticize porn if you're not a consumer
>you just should like porn and get excited for next porn
Honestly, once this irrationality and gaslighting will reach the normie sphere, you will see people go and kill adult industry workers, pornographers, actors, etcetera.
It happened with the trannies, as in no one was and is allowed to criticize the legbets, and it will happen with porn because any single negative opinion about it, must be challenged and discredited as dishonestly as possible.

Most porn whiteknights have shit taste as well and can't see the appeal of erotic imagery unless it's peak in-your-face-extreme-fetish-vulgarity.
Imagine consuming porn 24/7 and damage controlling any and all opinions against unhinged and unbridled ever present porn in the digital landscape, and then you jerk off to cuckold inflation furry anal vore while praising the nth gacha anime girl drawing as the second coming of Christ.

Honestly, porn should be gatekept from the masses, so actual people can enjoy it.
And if you want it so bad, it'll be 450 buckaroos for a pixelated half a titty picture.
lmao imagine coomers actually taking bank loans so they can commission some twitter tranny artist to draw their retarded diaper fetish.
Even worse, they commission an AI pajeet.

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7162922

>>7161645
Cool image OP



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7161546 No.7161546 [Reply] [Original]

So what happened? Any advice?
How could I improve and become a pro? What to use anyways?

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>> No.7162019

Can anyone tell me how to start all over again and this time improve?

>> No.7162029

>>7162019
start with something you enjoy drawing

>> No.7162163

Printer paper + clipboard. Start doodling more with ink. It will be ugly at first but creativity is a muscle that gets stronger with use. Stop watching videos on YouTube about "how to start a sketch book" etc. Pentel High-Tec pens are nice. Draw a rabbit holding a knife. Draw a bunch of bananas, draw Moana, draw a comic panel of a snake cult doing snake cult stuff, draw circles. All on the same page. Draw while watching TV.

Never have beens online will only pull you down. Learn how to relax with a pen and have fun. Stop caring so much.

>> No.7162187

>>7162019
you can't, you were born with no talent because of your genes

>> No.7162225

>>7161644
What about the 10+ year permabeg?
Did he die too?



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7161461 No.7161461 [Reply] [Original]

Uh oh! 5 months into 2024, years is almost over and you are already old as fuck but you did make it in time right? WELL POST YOUR FUCKING PROGRESS.

Only NGMI bitches post here without posting their progress

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7162305

i need to start making money

>> No.7162310

>>7162305
Start trying color at the verry least.
You could also try different ways of rendering besides the hatching.
You're pretty good at that so try something new.
It'll help your hatching aswell.
Still a cool selfportrait there in 2024, kino.

>> No.7162314

>>7162305
There's something very awkward about some of your composed scenes. Stiff, maybe? I'd do more life figure studies.

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7163237

cum

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7163240

Not much progress but it is progress in the end.



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7161350 No.7161350 [Reply] [Original]

*Solves drawing*

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>> No.7161955

>>7161356
By not being black

>> No.7161991

He has a good course.

>> No.7162262

>>7161991
his nma course? He also offers critiqued sessions on comicbookpro but its not really clear how many actual critiques you get (i think just one for 15 minutes or so)

>> No.7162276

>>7161437
5:46
>He's a pretty big guy.

>> No.7163293

>>7161350
Not japanese, so I don't care.



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7161340 No.7161340 [Reply] [Last 50] [Original]

There's plenty of porn artists who primary draw straight art yet all their real sexual experiences are either with men or MTF trannies, even though cherry picked Twitter artists aren't exactly a good representation.

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7163107

>>7162687
Pain and pleasure or pleasure and pain?

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7163120

>>7162396
I never realized that reading these threads is actually like I'm listening to a flat earther that is honestly oblivious.
like it's hard to find authentic relationships and like, I get why some of these anons are obsessed with sex. weirdly more obsessed than my trans friends who probably make more money and are happier than some of you by the way, sorry.
>friends with gays and trannies
Yeah anon I have what's called a "robust network" and it's why I don't struggle to find work or really want for anything.
I can safely say my life is significantly better than most of ya'll's because I do whatever I want and find success. Including being weirdly accurate about my guesses when it comes to sexual orientation.

All of you are homosexual, by the way.

>> No.7163123

>>7163120
>ya'll's
I wish you had used that word sooner so I could stop reading.

>> No.7163128

>>7162853
>>7162847
Gays hate them because most bi's are down low and dont really take them seriously as romantic options basically just use them as cheap fucks and fuck off while the gay takes blame for messing up the relationship or whatever when they get caught cheating. While women hate them because it ruins their perception of them as men as well as the fact that their friend groups my look down on them for being with bi male they also wont hesitate to use your sexuality as emotional leverage like this anon said>>7163026. Women also dont like the idea of a man possibly leaving them for another man it makes them feel like they've failed in someway as a woman

I can only speak for the bi male experience though I dont know if bi women face the same hate or problems as the males do

>> No.7163176

>>7163128
Yeah, women pretend to be LGBTQ "allies" but they're generally more homophobic than your average hetero male.



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7161202 No.7161202 [Reply] [Original]

https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/84822008-4514-9724



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7161201 No.7161201 [Reply] [Original]

I find it easier to draw for long hours, when I see someone else also drawing instead of wasting their time.

Do you guys know of any streamers that show themselves drawing? I'm NOT looking for streams like pic related, where it's just a screencap - I want to see the person behind the canvas as well. Something like Bob Ross, but longer and with more focus on drawing/digital than traditional painting. It would be a dream come true to have a live cam of an mangaka, but I doubt that's gonna happen

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>> No.7161908

Maybe these would work? It's just their hands in view but you might get something out of it:
https://www.youtube.com/@MINJYE/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@NOMA-/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@animesijyuku/videos

>> No.7161921 [DELETED] 

>>7161201
Just look up people drawing trad then?

>> No.7162375

>>7161908
They do work, thank you! :D Especially the first one, since those streams are a bit longer.

>>7161829
>doesn't know about mirror neurons
>calls others retards

>> No.7162387

>>7162375
>mirror neurons

literally anything but opening and anatomy book at studying huh. This place is hilarious.

>> No.7162556

>>7162375
>can't connect something being drawn to someone drawing them
>not retarded



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7161122 No.7161122 [Reply] [Original]

an art for all..
optical orifice
https://youtu.be/zMKbNqzViYo