/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2431664
Boots and shoes like your pic require fabrication skills and tools that are way beyond "the fundamentals of leatherworking" the same way that making your own analog wristwatch from scratch is way beyond the fundamentals of metal working.

>>2431696i know the pic is related, but i'm happy with simpler boot desing that only requires the fundamentals and development of those fundamentals

if you don't mind dressing like a renfaire attendee there are many historic styles of footwear that can be made with basic leatherwork

>>2431719
I prefer a full layer of leather, but i could start with some roman sandals

Also, no kinky shit please

>>2431727
consider the humble turnshoe

>>2431728
Thanks, one question, how is the wood sole made?
So in case i have to replace it, i just repair it myself

>>2431732
you can do a leather sole.
there are hard, thick leathers specifically for use in boots soles that you might use, they will be hard to work though.
with moccassins what they used to do was use a double layer of regular leather on the sole and repair or replace the outer layer whenever it wore through.

>>2431697
Then >>2431719 has it right, you'll be limited to things like moccasins and soft boots without more advanced skills and tools. Look up some videos on how traditional hard soled shoes and boots are made and you'll see just how specialized the equipment is and how easy it is to mess things up beyond repair.
It's not impossible to do it by hand but that equipment was developed because handcrafting required years of training and even the most highly skilled cobblers need lots of time to craft a single pair of shoes.
Even moccasins are time consuming, worth the effort but harder to make right than they look.

>>2431738
Great, my plan was making the top part on a shoe shaped sack, taking two layers of leather, joining then, and making with it the top part, and the soke with wood where i add to the sole leather to make it last longer
Also, wich sort of leather is recomended for?, full grain?, the main focuss is a fit-on-all, working on winters and summers, while requiring little to no care

>>2431744
leather is skin. it always needs care.
you're not going to make bulletproof work boots with a skiver and some thread.

>>2431749
Is making boots that can endure a lot of, and being easy to repair and maintain

Great boot makers on YouTube.

>>2431744
Always use full-grain calfskin if at all possible.

>>2431664
the job of a cobbler is one of the harder ones, depending on what you make it out of youre taking the job of a leatherworker, tailor, and carpenter all in one, and the sewing patterns are difficult as a fuck up may result in 30$ lost because the boot is unwearable

>>2431728
>>2431732
>>2431738
please use a plastic sole or something, youre going to spend a lot of effort on this and if you make a leather or wood sole its going to tear up real quick, this is what it will look like after a little bit of walking on concrete

>>2432589
>plastic
Rubber is way better. Alternatively use leather soles and sole protectors and you won’t end up like this autist.

>>2432589
In that case, wich type of sole is better for constant usage, and easy repair

>>2432589
That's normal and desirable, actually.
slick leather has no grip.

>atemp
>tutorias
>whearing
>simoler
>fundamentald
>onw
>desing
>soke
>focuss
I suggest learning how to spell before putting any of your time into hobbies.

>>2432858
I mean, what i want is a easy to repair sole, so instead of spending money on new shoes, i just swap out the outter sole

>>243300
>>2433003
Typing in a phone is utterly uncofortable, and i do a lot of spelling errors because of that, sorry if it is hard to read because of the spelling errors

>>2433004
Having to routinely repair your soles because they wear poorly will not save you money.

>>2433007
ok, then are there any way to craft a sole that allows for replacable soles, what i was thinking was a scre or something, i'll draw it

>>2433009
>>2433004
You have to go all out and set your ambitions high
Make a pair of welted leather boots.

Buy some Vibram outer soles (they arent super expensive and they are polymers that will outlast literally anything else you look at)
Then just make the rest by hand out of leather.

You can repair the outer soles on welted boots, thats the whole point.
But its not a 5 minute project so you only want to do it after 5-6 years (which is why you buy good outer soles in the first place).

Bootmaking will give you all sorts of skills
The uppers will give you a ton of skills in which you can make all sorts of other leather projects
The lowers will give you skills which you can repair or build other footwear with.

You can buy pic related for $120 on ebay and get started

>>2433023
You got what i wanted, is there any handmade or 3D printable alternative to it, for now what i have is a usual sewing machine
I don't want to use anything that i can't use on a tabletop
and as cost effective as possible, with tools that could be used for more proyects

Get on the youtubes and google
Brian the bootmaker
Bedos leatherworks

you need to learn about how shoes are constructed first
You need to understand how to make or use a last
heel and toe counters
midsole , sole . shank , heel , lining ,vamp , gemming , and the welt

all that stuff
also women are horrible people and you cannot trust them

>>2433082
I've been checking up with rose anvil to see the anatomy of a shoe, also thanks anon

>>2433073
This machine is a lot smaller than it looks, and can be used for all of your leatherworking needs.
Unless your usual sewing machine is a fucking monster built for leather, it will not welt shoes.

Sometimes you need to buck up and pay the money for the right tools.
Youll spend twice as much in the long run trying to do it the wrong way.

>>2431696
Every single thread here
>how do I learn to do x
>well you'll never know how to do x because other people have already done it

>>2431664
OP, you'll never ever be able to do anything if you try to ask someone one more knowledgeable about the best way to do it.

>>2433124
What the hell are you even saying, that's what everyone desires when getting knolege, to know the best techniques for doing something

there's noone on this world that doesn't want to learn from experts

>>2433073
>3D printable alternative

Look at the massive cast frame. How on earth will you achieve that stability with 3D printing? You would need massive amounts of plastic. This thing costs like 4 or 5 rolls of filament. It probably needs (like any chinese machine) a lot of rework to be in good working condition but that seems to be a lot of machine for $120.

>>2433023
>You can buy pic related for $120 on ebay and get started
Started on a machine repair project. Those things never work out the box.

>>2433263
A brainlet cliche here is telling someone if they were serious about learning something they would actually try to learn something about it instead of posting here asking about where they should start learning about it.

>>2433108
he only takes things apart , he has no idea how to make a boot

>>2433124
>Every single thread here
>>how do I learn to do x
>>well you'll never know how to do x because other people have already done it
Nothing in the post you are responding to said anything even remotely like that, only that making boots like that is advanced and esoteric leatherwork thats at the opposite end of the learning curve from beginner projects.
Nobody said that it's impossible to learn, why do you feel the need to misquote people and claim they did?

>>2431664
That's not bad for a first attempt.

>>2433684
They work fine, there is a learning curve for any new machine.

OP see if you can apprentice with a cobbler

>>2433775
Sorta agreed, how is that tool called, and a manual one wouldn't ust work fine
>>2433782
I can agree, but first i should get used to the basics

For now the only thing i don't get is the sole making procces (the inner and middle sole)

>>2433870
watch bedo for that

>>2431719
>blue board

>>2431696
You are a fucken faggot. Bet you’re a christcuck zionist too, amirite?

>>2431664
Update since the last post, started doing some minor leatherworking, i like it, and i consider that i could do some stuff correctly, but it would look like dogshit, any recomendation of a guide on how to make the leather look better?

>>2431719
I made these FOR renfaire. They suck. The toe part is uncomfortable.

If one wants to start with boots, look up "Viking turn shoes" and make those.

It would not be too much more work to add a vibram sole to a pair.

>>2432589
Use a leather sole, suede down. Then glue vibram to it.

If you are gonna try making boots, go for it, but I recommend a chukka boot like this. I am working on making a set (as first shoes other than those "Roman" sandals).

You will need a belt sander and some wood to make the molds, but this construction avoids some of the most difficult steps in normal welting since it is a simple stitch-down welt.

>>2433023
That thing is a shit!
>Got it, kept breaking thread.
>Bobbin doesn't have tensioner spring.
>Order spring part for the actual Singer machine from Japan since this is chink copy.
>get proper tension
>still breaks thread.
>go online and find advice
>sand down all burs and rough edges
>attempt to sort out timing
>still breaks thread
>fuck this thing.

You are better off shopping for the antique singer model (? Cant recall) that it is based on.

>>2433121
After fucking with that machine to no avail, i welted my shoes with a drill press and saddle stitching.

>>2437088
Buy a stitching pony, buy a simple "leatherwork kit" from Amazon with a fork punch and a wheel thing for indenting your stitching line. Practice the double-needle saddle stitch (always overlap the same direction to keep the 'slant' of the stitches the same.)
Take some scrap leather and some pennys or dimes and make some heavy-duty "thimble" rings... make it a double layer with the coin in between and stitch around the coins to hold it in place.

>>2437898
It is what i did, later on i'll do a recap of inventory

What if you buy a pair of boots that are meant to last forever and be resoled, then wear the soles out and replace them?

>>2432589
Use a tire

>>2438187
I prefer to go by my onw standars, and the fact that i've did it myself, is more of "why making your onw tools instead of purchasing then"
Also, ignoring tool prices, is cheaper doing then yourself than bying then

>>2438152
RECAP OF MY TOOLS
-speedy stitcher sewing awl
-beveler (flat cut not rounded)
-cutter
-Stitching Roulette
-rubber cement
with of course a cutter, a mallet and rubber cement

>>2431664
https://youtu.be/tar8M_9EGt8
Making the soles looks like it fucking sucks

>>2437890
>Viking turn shoes
look neat, but i don't think they'd last one day at a ren faire on my feet.

Shoe thread up, lucky me.
Reposting from >>2440587

The midsole of my shoes has eroded unevenly and it's "jagged", like a rocky landscape.

Is there some sort of material that I can fill the gaps with, so it becomes flat again? Maybe some epoxy? Some sort of foam that solidifies?

I am lost. Please, send help. I don't want to have to remove the "hills" and lose the midsole.

>>2433005
If your phone keyboard doesn't autocorrect, install one that does. Nobody types properly on the phone, but autocorrect (in your language) does most of the work there.

>>2440589
Forgot the pic

>>2440589
You need to identify what your midsole is made out of
My guess is ground cork and glue
Are you going to take the shoe apart ?

>>2440694
These are some trainers. I removed a bit and it seems to be made of white fibers. Reminds me of paper or cardboard.

Can I just remove the remaining midsole, cut out the shoe's profile in cork from a corkboard and glue it inside?