/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Well, I can say with some authority that teflon does not stop the covid.

>>2751661
I don't think teflon has been used in nonstick cookware for decades now. In the US, it was banned in 2002

>>2751706
>it was banned in 2002

no it was not you lying dog faced pony soldier

>>2751708
Ohh my apologies, my liege! It's only been TEN years in the US! The date I gave was the overall date that most manufacturers halted production!! What a grave mistake that I made!!!

Oh wait, that means your concerns are still without merit. whew!

>>2751716
Wow.... You're really gonna double down on stupid when you fucked that up that bad, huh? Oh well, you do you I guess bro. I'm sure it doesn't matter, just like you say.

>>2751718
S-s-sempai, I b-b-beg your f-f-orgiveness!!!

>>2751708
Not teflon, but teflon derrived from PFOA.
The danger of teflon isnt PFOA, but fact teflon itself is toxic when overheated.

>>2751718
you know he's not wrong. just because it was officially banned does not mean that manufacturers stopped using it earlier. they can do that you know?

>>2751802
Again, wow... This guy's >>2751740
mistress seems to be Victoria Justice, and your sticking up for him? Smhlmao.

I've been using the same frying pan since 2011, and it's much less nonstick than it used to be, and all I've got since then is massive hair loss, some kind of dermatitis, and moderate erectile dysfunction. I'd say it's fine.

Actual teflon poisoning is very rare, and it is usually from people forgetting about teflon pans and letting them burn a bunch of fumes in the atomosphere, causing a fever and shortness of breath lasting a day or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNNKhVoUu8

>>2751661
The only idiots that get it are the dudes that hold the bolt Teflon in their mouth while chamfering the end on their 3d printer

Whenever you fuck with a Bowden tube just wash your hands

Also don’t cut Teflon tape with your teeth

>>2751875
>Also don’t cut Teflon tape with your teeth
Who does this?

>>2751744
there is no reason to ever ingest anything with fluoride in it - it's a terrible chemical with no biological purpose

>>2751661
Rare enough but since you don't need to cook with Teflon try not being retarded and use cast iron or steel. Commercial grills don't need that shit so neither do you so why would you want it?

Of course you want it anyway and will use it anyway so why did you even bother asking?

>2024
>not using stainless cookware

Not gunna make it

>>2751913
Fluoride reduces tooth decay in poors

It's fucked and it's not going to get any better. There was a news story about a town in Minnesota where a bunch of high school kids were getting rare cancers because they were down river of the 3M plant. There were whisleblowers...the companies covered it up and continued to poison us. This family lost their daughter and are still saying shit like, "I know people that work at 3M, they are good people." They aren't though...they're evil, selfish, greedy cunts.

>>2751913
Its naturally occurring in spring water in over half of the country.
The conspiracy theory and off the grid types who are vehemently opposed to it being re-added to treated municipality water somehow always ignore that fact.

Thats literally how they found out flouride is good for your teeth. The half of the country with natural flouride had way better teeth than the other half which didnt.

When you go innawoods, you gonna make sure there isnt natural flouride where you take up residence?

>>2751661
Anyone who hasnt seen it yet should watch this documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJFbsWX4MJM

>>2752686 paraphrased it, but its way way worse than it sounds. Its mind boggling how wreckless and blatant they were, but still poisoned the nation anyways.
Makes you wonder about all the goyslop companies and their additives in processed foods.

>>2751661
Generally not serious, and self-resolves in a day. And as long as you don't do something dumb like leave an empty pan on a burner set to high, you're very unlikely to ever encounter it.

You guys don't wanna know how much Teflon is used in the food industry. We have rotary molders for making mozz cheese into blocks and the molds are all Teflon coated with seriously thick coatings.
We always have a couple of them out getting recoated.
Guess where the Teflon went.
It's slowly abraded and ends up in the cheese.

Biggest issue with teflon is the industrial waste that was being dumped straight into a river

>DuPont dumps wastes directly into river
>Bunch of people get sick but don't want to sue because most of the people affected were employed there and didn't want to lose their job

>>2752865
grim

Teflon, PTFE, whatever. They're possibly going to be understood to be terrible for health at some point in the future. Possibly they aren't and it's all a spook. I do know I feel a lot better after 15 years of almost entirely avoiding non-stick cookware, but I've done a bunch of other big lifestyle changes in that time as well so it could be absolutely nothing.
However, non-stick cookware is very easy to get away from, or at least minimize the damage from/to it. Cast iron cookware will last you a lifetime and is almost as good for non-stick behavior as long as you follow a few rules in handling it (no detergents, hot water rinse only, no aggressive scrubs e.g. brillo). I've had cast pans for 10+ years and never needed to re-season them. In that sense, non-stick cookware is a big fucking scam of planned obsolesence. Expensive, flimsy, and the coating chips off after a few years of use.
I view avoiding non-stick cookware on about the same level as thoroughly rinsing produce before cooking/eating it. Maybe glyphosate isn't harmful to us, but it's a minimal hassle for a potentially huge benefit if it is.

>>2752942
I only avoid non-stick because only cheap garbage pots and pans have it.
Only raw cast, enameled cast, and ply stainless for me.
Cooking in a crappy nonstick aluminum pan is dreadful

>>2752845
A lot of it goes away when scrubbing or even gently washing the piece. On a production line I would not be surprised if it gets washed several times a day as opposed to a kitchen where it might just get wiped clean between two orders.

>>2752723
but now that fluoridated toothpaste is available at even my local gas station they really don't need to add it to the water supply

>>2754439
the point of fluoridated water is legal waste disposal
has nothing to do with dental health

>>2754621
>has nothing to do with dental health
Is that why its specifically added into every toothpaste?
Waste disposal?

Is it God himself disposing of waste when he puts it into natural springs?

>>2754633
why do you think your appeal to nature is some sort of gotcha
natural springs contain all sorts of trace materials that are harmful to health in bigger quantities
makes no sense to add them to water

radium was also specifically added to toothpaste
probably because toothpaste is one of those cosmetics we dont actually need and they need to convince you of just how much you need it

>>2754656
>why do you think your appeal to nature is some sort of gotcha
I dont dare spit in gods face as you do

>>2754657
why dont you throw your electronic device into the lake anprim

>>2754658
Electronics were gods will, to spread the word

>>2754659
electronics are literally demons trapped in silicon

>>2751832
You’re a faggot

>>2754701
Pls check you're privilege normie

>>2754621
>the point of fluoridated water is legal waste disposal
This is the dumbest thing I've read all week/10

>>2752845
> re-coated
That’s pretty fuckin stupid
PTFE is relatively inexpensive, and it’s a bit like HMWPE (or like those polyethylene cutting boards).
You can get blocks, or sheets of it and make the whole mold out of PTFE instead of trying to recoat things with it. Obviously, it doesn’t stick very well to anything, so it’s a fundamentally stupid idea. Those coatings have other shit in them, and usually tiny particles of ptfe suspended in it.
Anyway, solid ptfe is very tough, and one of the most chemically inert things in the world, so I think that stuff is safe.
Coatings are very questionable.
Also, the *precursor* chemicals used to make it are very very bad indeed.
The finished product, I think, is very safe, and you do want to keep it away from extreme heat, so nowhere near it’s breakdown temperature.

>>2755845
The idea is it comes from fly ash from industrial smokestack scrubbers.
It’s kind of like you can get ethanol from crude oil, but I’m just not comfortable drinking that.
Fluoride is crazy expensive, my city stopped fluoridating and saved millions.
Before that, usually several months out of the year, our fluoride levels actually exceeded federal limits due to natural fluoride in the water sources (it runs through fluorite rock, for example).
Neither the fluoride camp or the anti-fluoride camp even brought it up.
There was one study that was released that said cavities went up, but I actually read it, and it was hilarious—I presume the “scientists” that made it are now working at mcDo.
Their main argument was kids in satellite towns using city water can’t afford toothpaste (but can afford coca cola, tats, piercings and puberty-delaying treatments).
Fluoride does work, to some degree, and does kill cavity causing bacteria too (it’s poisonous) but it’s not worth the cost, and no reason to put it in water.

>>2754621
based retard.

>>2755861
>it's a waste product
>no wait it's crazy expensive
>It does nothing
>No wait, it actually does something
>Anyway I'm going to complain about poor people
You are why the world is going to shit

bump serious thread by concerend anon

>>2751661
it's in all of us, only clean blood found was in an archive from sold-iers in the korean war. The replacement with "GenX chemicals" are even better.

>>2752942
You can't just wash away glyphosate, or any other pesticides that have been absorbed into the produce.