/diy/ - Do It Yourself

My repair so far

>>1727428
And that’s like a fuck ton of caulk silicon because I didn’t have a caulk gun so I was scooping it out by finger and applying liberally.

This pic is attempt to reduce water damage.

>>1727429
As you can see everything is soaked. This pic is backside of tank so you can see it didn’t penetrate the tank.

There was this weird fuse box under the sink that I had to take an old fashion fuse out of to shut power off to the heater in 2-3 inches of standing water.

>>1727427
Eat the cost of a new water heater cleetus, and maybe remember that lesson when you're handling guns again.

Remember kids, Negligent
Discharges are 99.9% user error

They hid the shut off valves and one of them has to be between “on” and “off” just right to actually be off. So that was fun to figure out.

>>1727432
Come on man, we can do this. The power of copious amounts of silicon and flex tape; and me not using much hot water for a few months.
I’m looking for help, trust me I’ve punished myself enough for the misfire. I should’ve cycled outside, I know I know. I fucked up. I’m just looking for help that will help more than the potential harm I’ll do by trying to fix this on my own.

>>1727427
this is the most American problem I've ever seen

people like you shouldn't own firearms

This with a layer of flex tape, and then a layer of fiber based duct tape, should hold for 4-5 months, right?

Maybe 1-2 at least?

Any optimistic anons out there?

Could I get a friend who can weld to fix it?

>>1727435
I didn’t even want to own a firearm but shit bigger than me has tried to get inside my house before.
I do my best to be safe, and this was pointed downwards and away from anything I didn’t want to harm as I was emptying the rifle. I don’t have much choice but to lever cycle the rifle and that simultaneously chambers a round and pulls the hammer back. It’s easy to try and go through a motion so common and then suddenly it goes off because you levered it with your finger slightly off position and suddenly you put a bullet through something.

This time it was a chair, desk, and eventually my hot water heater.

I’m asking for help let’s all except the fact that I’m a shit person, I’ve learned my lesson and won’t be handling any firearm inside ever again, I can swear on that.

>>1727438
Accept, please?

The thing is, I’m going to try and DIY fix this one way or another, If someone wants to help I’d appreciate it. I know I fucked up.
Help me not fuck up even more while trying to fix it, please?

Im dehumidifing and keeping the area as warm as I can, I don’t plan on putting anything on top of the copious amounts of silicon for at least another 12 hours. Then it’s off to Lowe’s to get hopefully something a kind and knowledgeable anon can recommend.

Or my back up is to try flex tape.

Or maybe ask a Lowe’s associate but honestly I occasionally find far more knowledge here than what they can offer...

Going to bed finally after a ton of issues. I’m sure this is cake for some of you guys, but I’m a fuckin noob.
I hope I wake up to a few helpful suggestions, otherwise flex tape and crossed fingers it is.

>>1727443
if that dont hold smear a slightly bigger than the hole wood peg with silicone then hammer it in the hole

>>1727427
>I can find 0 entry “wounds” on the other side
30-30 is a shit round for this

Christ, not only are you an idiot but you're a whining bitch boy too. Good luck when you get taken to court for damages at the end of your lease, I'm sure your legal acumen is as good as your firearms safety.

I had better weapon handling skills when I was 12 Jesus man

This is great. If your trying to save that one I would try brazing some sheet metal on it. Maybe over the silicone depending on how bad it melts. If the silicone melts maybe a not so melty Cork and seal up around it. If there's no hot water then you hit a vital organ, and will have to put it down.

ehh shit happens. OP if you have a friend that has a little 110v welder use that. Functionally it will be as good as new. If you can weld halfway decent make a square or round patch that looks like it's always been part of the water heater and paint the whole thing to hide it better. Landlady will never notice it.
I'm skeptical about the longevity of any kind of sealant / tape combo, but you did a great job on the door, so use whatever you think is best.

>>1727427
i dont get it. you can afford to play around with hollow points but you can't afford a couple hundred to pay for your mistake. you sir should not be playing with guns.

>>1727427
What ypu are looking for is epoxy putty.
I'm thinking the silicon pops out the second the tank gets up to temp and pressure. The fact that the glass lining in the tank is now compromised means it has a very short time to live.

>>1727427
Just freaking bypass the heater and take cold showers until you can afford to replace it

It won't hold for long. at least use some metal epoxy.
Until you can weld it, turn off the water anytime you're not gong to be home.

>>1727480
Bottle says the silicon is good up to 400F. I doubt it’ll melt, right?

>>1727488
Thank you, I’ll look for this, do you think I should put the putty over the silicone and see how it holds?

I’m hoping for a temp solution that will last until I get a welder or can afford a new heater.

>>1727497
Will do. Thank you other helpful anon.

>be American water heater
>get shot

>>1727484
Wasn’t playing around, and I’ll be able to afford it in a few weeks but money is tight around the holidays, I don’t expect anything short of welding to be a permanent solution.

>>1727531
This did make me crack a smile in these damp times. Thank you.
-OP

anon, maybe I’m looking at these pictures incorrectly or not seeing something, but it appears you are trying to fix the outer shell. Your water heater had a cast iron tank, surrounded by insulation, with an outer shell. You need to cut out t outer shell and insulation to access the cast iron tank, otherwise it’s very unlikely you’re going to fix anything. Hell, it’s unlikely you’re going to fix anything anyway. I’ve never shot a water heater because they’ve never tried to steal rims off my car or anything, but I would have to imagine if a round hit the actual cast iron tank, it wouldn’t put a hole in it, it would probably crack the tank.

Plant a gun on the water heater, and call the police.

>>1727535
I don’t know a thing about water heaters but warm water was spewing from the hole until I could get the water lines shut off.
Heating element should be intact because I could hear it heating the remaining water as I tried to figure out how to cut the electricity.

(Someone less competent than I wired this place.)

>>1727536
Wouldn’t work, water heater is white. :(

>>1727540
>Someone less competent than I

OP here, this is my plan so far

Cut away at the messy silicon until I have an area to use the water weld, apply that and let it cure for the full amount of time. Slap a piece of flex tape over everything. Refill tank with water, if it holds for a few hours with no leaks then I try turning the power back on.

If anyone has any thoughts about this plan I’d love to hear it.

>>1727543
Yes yes bash me all you want

>>1727540
Right, the water was spewing from the hole, but that outer shell is not the tank. You need to cut out that shell and the insulation and inspect the tank.

>>1727541

>>1727547
It’s very hard to access, I’m going to try my temporary $20 solution today and if that doesn’t work just shell out the $369 to replace the damn thing.

>>1727551
Lmao can’t believe you took the time to make this

>>1727427
Just sell the gun and buy a new tank

Boom two birds with one stone.

>>1727559
Op is stupid enough that he should really put the gun to his forehead and just save himself future troubles.

>>1727562
I’m sure if he tried he would somehow accidentally shoot his microwave or something.

>>1727427
Oooo-oo say can you see

>>1727427
Stick one of those bad boys on there, that's their original purpose.

>>1727562
That was actually my first thought when it happened.

But, >>1727575
Is probably right.

>>1727434
Sell your gun for the new water heater or give it to the owner in exchange. You are not responsible enough to own one.

>let's just leave a lead bullet sitting in my water supply slowly dissolving

Slap a patch on the water heater.

Theres a separate tank on the inside that holds the water. You can see the outside tank.

>>1727609
It’s was my great grandfather’s, sentimental value and whatnot. And honestly, I’m quite safe with firearms, this was just an accident, and to be fair I’m not used to level action. Obviously I’ve learned my lesson here, you guys can stop riding me on that.

I’m going to replace the water heater but it’ll be a month or so before I have the money. So I’m trying to patch it up so it’ll work well enough to take hot showers. I don’t drink the water from this house’s plumbing anyway.

>>1727613
Lever*

Also, Update: I scraped away the silicon that was around the edges and roughened it up a good bit to get it ready for the water weld epoxy.

Now letting it cure. Hoping this will work. Going to slap a flex tape on it for good measure when I’m sure it’s done curing.

Thank you again to the helpful anons that told me about the water weld. IF it works as advertised it should hold for awhile. Says up to 900psi, water heaters only get to about 145.
And up to 300F, water heater only goes to 160.

>>1727544
You have to repair the inner tank like >>1727535
said. That silicone plug in >>1727436 is only on the thin sheet metal outer shell that is really just there to hold the insulation in. No matter what you do as far as repairs in that location, when you turn the water back on it will leak out of the hole in the inner tank and leak out between the tank and the shell you repaired.

I hate gun nuts.

>whoops misfire lol
>don't worry, I'll be careful next time!
>WHY IS EVERYONE TRYING TO TAKE MUH FREEDOMS??

>>1727438
You don't shoot to scare something away. You shoot to kill, you absolute brainlet. If you wanna scare something off, and NOT give it rapid onset lead poisoning, consider blank rounds, or even an air horn.

Now, onto the second issue. Your apprentice silicone-job won't hold. Not to mention, if there really is no exit wound to the heater, you have successfully made sure that there's lead leeching into your hot water supply, thus ensuring that these kinds of dumb actions continue in the future by stupefying future tenants. In short, pony up the $400 and fix your retarded oopsie, you retarded oopsie.

Goddamn I hate that stupid people are allowed to procreate.

>>1727620
Gun nuts are absolutely fine, so long as they're not retarded, like this guy. And he seems like he's not even a gun nut.

>>1727613
>Obviously I’ve learned my lesson here, you guys can stop riding me on that.

>>1727434
Cletus, you gotta buy a new water heater or else your ass is goin to court.

>>1727619
I’m hoping I put enough silicon to semi repair the inner tank, put a decent bit in. Hoping it’ll set with the insulation.

Like I said, going to replace. I’m only half expecting this to work at this point, most likely just going to be enjoying cold showers for a few weeks.

And no, not a gun nut. Yes this was a retarded mistake and I should’ve emptied the extra rounds outside so a misfire would’ve only hit the mountainside. Also I shot to scare because I couldn’t see exactly what it was, pitch black where the noise (and my firewood) was.and I’ve seen black bears around my house. It worked, whatever it was ran off. I didn’t even aim at the firewood I aimed at a tree I’ve used for target practice that I knew it would not go through. I’m not so retarded that I’m out dumping lead into the forest.
Still somewhat retarded obviously.

And don’t worry, not planning on procreating anyway.

>>1727440
>The thing is, I’m going to try and DIY fix this one way or another, If someone wants to help I’d appreciate it. I know I fucked up.
>Help me not fuck up even more while trying to fix it, please?

The fix is to buy a new hot water heater before you cause more water damage you fucking scumbag. Just because you slap some spicy glue on it, doesn't mean it's gonna be "right". You've broken the glass liner inside the tank and you're trying to skip out before the landlord knows whats up. Next time, ND into your brainpan you piece of shit.

>>1727543
He's not wrong. Look at this>>1727431

OP, you're going to have to learn the construction of the water heater to really repair it. Even then it'll probably be too hard. Like some anon said the whole thing mightve cracked.

>>1727642
>Like I said, going to replace. I’m only half expecting this to work at this point, most likely just going to be enjoying cold showers for a few weeks.

My concern would be that your “temporary fix” works for a few days then blows out while you’re gone and floods the house.

>And don’t worry, not planning on procreating anyway.

Lord knows where your dick would end up if you tried to make a baby

>>1727647
Planning on doing as one anon says and cut the water and power to it any time I leave, if it works at all.

I’ll let you all know in an hour or so, if it floods you can keep calling me retarded for awhile.

>>1727644
Not trying to skip out on anything, I’ve been doing more good to this house than bad by far, I’m not that kind of person. She will end up with a brand new water heater. I’d just like to postpone it a few weeks so I will be able to get my family Christmas gifts is all. You make a lot of assumptions about my character because I came to DIY for help, and some anons were insightful. I didn’t know how water heaters worked and it’s worth a shot. No need to be foul.

>>1727620
Guy sounds more coherent than a good half of the internet. Shit happens to everyonre. Meanwhile you pick semi-random, statistically inaccurate reasons to hate your kin and damage society as a whole.

>>1727642
>I’m hoping I put enough silicon to semi repair the inner tank, put a decent bit in. Hoping it’ll set with the insulation.


It's glass, retard. It's full of cracks now. You're fucked and don't even know it yet. Keep posting though. Your eventual assrape gets me moist.

>>1727652
Mate I'm glad you learned a lesson. Dont listen to all the haters itt. Theyre just unhappy people who need to feel better than some rando online.

That being said, messing with the heater will probably just cause more damage. Just buy a water heating coil and use it to warm a large bucket of water. Take showers old-style, using a sponge and splashing yourself while inside the showwer, or fill up the bath if you habe a tub.

>>1727642
>Also I shot to scare because I couldn’t see exactly what it was, pitch black where the noise (and my firewood) was.and I’ve seen black bears around my house.

Oh, fucking great. You're taking "brush shots". Eat a bullet you waste of chromosomes.

>>1727652
>She will end up with a brand new water heater. I’d just like to postpone it a few weeks so I will be able to get my family Christmas gifts is all. You make a lot of assumptions about my character because I came to DIY for help, and some anons were insightful.

Then turn off the water and power, empty it, and suffer with cold water until you replace it, shitbag.

>>1727659
If my fix doesn’t work, that’s what I plan to do, I’ve said that all along. There really isn’t any harm in trying at this point. The water heater when it leaks, leaks straight down onto the ground. The whole under the sink is a mess, hell the whole kitchen is. A mess I’m actually trying to fix, I’ve got my father (electrician) coming up to help basically rewire the entire kitchen for free because I’ve got live wires above the sink where I put dishes away and that bothers him. The place is kinda a shit hole but I like the location and I’m friendly with my landlady. The last tenant wrecked this place.

>>1727656
Thanks for being one of the few positive blokes around here. I’ll be honest, I’m new to the DIY board and this is the first time I’ve lived in a house. (College student in my early 20s, always had apartments prior.) I figured living in a fixer upper cabin up in the mountains would be a good learning experience. And obviously it has, I’ve learned a ton in the past 24 hours.
Including the fact that this board seems to be just as toxic as most of the other 4chan boards, which is disappointing.
But hey; some people did genuinely help without calling me a POS or telling me to kill my self. So maybe it’s not all bad.

>>1727657
Brush shots? Not familiar with the terminology but all I did was take a shot at my target tree after hearing something moving near my woodpile. I didn’t want to harm the creature, bear bobcat or what have you. Just wanted to scare it away, and banging pots and pans has only temporarily worked in the past. And I needed firewood. My method worked and I don’t see what would be wrong with it, other than obviously not emptying the rifle outside aimed at the mountain just incase. I very much get that. Lesson very much learned. But what’s the harm in shooting a target tree that I could actually see, to scare away a potential black bear? A bear I have 0 desire to kill.
I’m
Genuinely asking, not arguing. As I said before I’ve never lived in a cabin on a mountainside and am doing so to learn. If you have a better method please don’t hesitate to share.

>>1727666
>I want 4chan to be reddit: the post
Lmao m8 you're fucking retarded. I would swear it was a LARP if it wasn't for the pics.
Look, if you just fix the outer shell, you'll flood the inside, cause a short circuit and risk electrocuting yourself.
You are acting like a child. You think you'll hide the fuckup you made from your parents by smearing putty over a bullet hole on a water heater. You play with guns yet I bet you don't even know or have the stuff to do basic home plumbing so as to take out the inner tank and try to fix it and put the appliance back together and install it.
This is comedy gold. Maybe you should stop trying to take up hunting and welding and become a comedian.

>>1727679
I’m doing more research as all you assholes are making me rethink shit and I am probably going to attempt to take the tank out tomorrow. Leave it drained. You all are probably right.
And I’ve got plenty of tools. If I can get it out myself it means I can save the installation cost.
My parents passed awhile ago, sorry to disappoint. One of the reasons I’m so fucking retarded when it comes to these things, foster parents don’t exactly give a shit about teaching you handyman stuff. Give me credit for trying to learn.

Also I have no interest in hunting or welding? Don’t know where you got that. Not sure if you read the thread mate.

>misfire
>misfire
>misfire
A negligent discharge is NOT a misfire you caveman. A misfire is a mechanical fault. If you drop your gun and it goes off, that's a misfire. If you get the barrel so hot a round cooks off in the chamber, that's a misfire. Pulling the trigger when you didn't mean to like a drunk Russian is a negligent discharge. Not accidental, NEGLIGENT. Even if you ignore the other three rules, just keeping your fucking finger off the trigger prevents 99.9% of firearm-related mishaps. Fucking dumbass walking statistic.

>>1727686
This was my 3rd time using a lever action rifle, the older kind with no safety and a hair trigger and no other way of emptying the rifle than by cycling the rounds. My finger slipped. Seems yours may have slipped up your ass, as you obviously have something stuck up there.

>>1727669
Here's a protip
You can put your trigger finger outside the guard while you cycle it, and keep your hand against the back of the lever, far from the trigger

>>1727686
Incase you were not aware, lever action rifles require your finger to come near the trigger when cycling, it’s not uncommon.

>>1727692
It was outside the guard, like I said, it slipped. I’m a lever action neophyte and nobody has taught me shit which is why I’m obviously learning things the hard and expensive way.

>>1727620
Yeah they want to ban firearms because of misfires that's it

>>1727659
You're the guy at work that everyone talks shit about when you're not around

op your fix wont work

take a screw driver and dig all the silicone out
take a piece of wood widdle it down till its a little bigger than the hole tapped down on one end to get it started smear some silicone around it then drive it in with a hammer it will deform the metal making the hole bigger making a super tight seal the the wood will swell getting even tighter cut it off flush with the outside paint it white no one will know

Jesus christ...

>shoots hole in water heater tank. Patches only the outer sheet metal shell that basically only holds the insulation around the tank.

Fucking genius right here.

>>1727730
Well I’ve begun to realIze that, which is why I haven’t turned the power/water on it yet. Trying to wade through the shitposts for useful information.
I could potentially do this, was already planning on taking the tank out anyway. At this moment I think I’m going to try and repair it properly, one way or another, and if that fails I’ll have plenty of experience when I buy I new one and have to install it.

>>1727745
Not claiming to be a genius, or to knowing a damn thing about water heaters, thus the thread?

You're lucky you didn't kill a kid. Please toss ask your guns in a lake.

>>1727544
it doesnt matter what you do even if you fix it temperarally you will still get charged for the damages idiot. do you think they are just not going to notice?

>>1727427
Try JB Weld. Or maybe another bullet.

>>1727753
I’m in the middle of nowhere, I couldn’t kill a kid if I nuked myself.

>>1727758
I’ve got that on there now. Might just take the tank out tomorrow and see what I can do, as it seems I probably didn’t fix the issue.

>>1727750

If you actually want to try and fix it so that it might have a snowball's chance of working, then I'd get some tin snips and cut the outer tin work off around where the bullet entry is. Dig out the insulation and find the hole in the tank. If there is a huge split then you're fucked. If it's pretty much a round hole you might be lucky and find a bolt slightly bigger than the hole and tap it out to that size. Put a rubber washer under the head and goop up the threads real good with some red loctite.

Or tap it out to the closest NPT thread and use an actual pipe plug.

Both of these things would require a bit of skill, some tools, a hell of a lot of luck, and at least two brain cells... So it's not looking too good for you Anon.

If you manage to patch the tank so that it doesn't leak then I would leave the hole in the outer skin open for a while to observe the plug and make sure it doesn't start leaking after a while.

When you're sure it isn't going to leak then you can patch the hole in the outer tin with a piece of flashing cut slightly larger than the hole and some pop rivets on the corners. Paint to match.

I must admit I’m very interested in an update from Quick Draw McGraw here, I want to know if it’s possible to temporarily patch a water heater that you shot with a gun. Please update OP.

>>1727774
Thank you, I will see how bad things are tomorrow when I drag the thing out, but I will definitely keep this in mind.
you’re right, I probably lack the skills needed. But one doesn’t acquire skills by not making attempts, even if they are futile. I’m going to watch some YouTube videos, read some guides, and see what my best option is and go from there. Taking all helpful posts from here into consideration.

And before people start talking more shit, I know I need to replace it. But I have 3 days off, not enough money atm, and a challenge that’ll require me to learn shit to even attempt.
Let me have that.

>>1727780
I’ll update tomorrow, it’s below freezing currently. I’ll attempt to fill the tank to see if my shitty fix did anything at all. Failing that I’ll remove the tank and go on to plan B. Whatever that is.

>>1727774
have you ever cut a water heater up? the tank is thinner than you think theres no way he could tap it and even get a single thread.

wood wedge drive that fucker home with a big hammer it will work. I used that trick to get out of the woods with my jeep when I put a hole in the fuel tank with a rock

>>1727774
I would be very hesitant to tap an old cast iron water heater tank. OP how old is this thing? Older tanks were usually toast after 15-20 years, nowadays you’re on borrowed time after 9-10.

>>1727786
if your taking it out just buy a new water heater they are not that expensive you might get lucky and find a used one on facebook or habitat for humanity

>>1727792
what turn of the century water heater are you using that its cast iron?

all the ones I have fucked with were just stamped steel

>>1727795
Oh, ok. Well I still wouldn’t try to tap one, especially if it’s older.

>>1727792
Oh it’s newer and not cast iron I don’t think, you can probably tell as well as I can from the pictures. It seems to just be steel, at least the outter layer.
There also seems to be a defunct one on the other side of under sink underworld that I am assuming is defunct? Not sure if it’s even a water heater though, just anolder looking tank of a similar size.
To be clear, a lot of things about this place are very odd.

>>1727794
I didn’t consider looking for used, thanks for the advice.

I’m super skeptical about the whole wooden tap thing, would that actually work? I am decent at wittling and have some good heartwood laying around. But it seems barbaric to the point that you could be trolling me? Either way of it leaks tomorrow that could easily be plan B or C.

>>1727800
If*

>>1727800
it will work wood makes good plugs because it swells I have used it on the bottom gas tanks without the silicone and it works
you could also take the skin off and the insulation and weld a patch over it but will forever looked dicked because nothing will go back like it was it never does. you need to hold in about 100 psi of pressure

>>1727794
You may have just saved me a bunch of money didn’t have.

>>1727805
beat em up on the price and you could probably get it for 100 bullshit them about the anode rod and other shit

>>1727427
Use a tubeless tire repair kit to plug inner tank. Twist two plugs together so it fills hole. Done.

>>1727809
Tubeless tire kit as in for bike tires? Sorry I used to do cyclocross and am not sure if this is also an upscaled thing. Or if that’s what you mean.

>>1727806
I’ll update if they actually reply, if they do I’ll probably go ahead and buy it ASAP and see if I can’t figure out how to install it. Luckily I don’t have to cut copper tubing, it’s all plastic stuff.

>>1727427
this is why guns should be banned. forget about school shootings, the average US citizen is too retarded to be trusted with one. rights were a mistake.

>>1727821
Ha, he shot a hot water tank, not a school bus.

>>1727544
>If anyone has any thoughts about this plan I’d love to hear it.
Just tell the fucking landlord. It's her house anyway so she doesn't want some fucktard ruining it and causing thousands in water damage because he was too embarrassed to be an adult about a fuckup he made

Jesus fucking christ dude you have no idea how much this is going to shit up your life. Just come clean and tell her what happened. She probably has money for stuff like this and you can get on a payment plan

>>1727826
You clearly didn’t read the thread

>>1727828
I did, some retard with a gun was a retard. Hopefully he can retard his way in to the 150 needed for a new water heater until he retards another hole in it

>>1727824
>From 2006-2016, almost 6,885 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings. In 2016 alone, there were 495 incidents of accidental firearm deaths.
>Accidental gun deaths occur mainly in those under 25 years old. In 2014, 2,549 children (age 0-19) died by gunshot and an additional 13,576 were injured.

>>1727831
That’s just people, appliance shootings are vastly underreported. It could be in the millions.

Tap a 12 gauge shell in the hole call it good

30-30 lever action with a HAMMER....how the fuck do you accidentally discharge it? Why are you unloading it inside?

>>1727831
Some of those accidents aren't accidents. Taking your enemies hunting is the oldest trick in the book.

>>1727814
For automotive tires. What the fuck man? You must be our OP

>>1727831
It's easy to pluck numbers with no frame of reference.

>>1727432
^this

sell something and buy a water heater, it's the right thing to do.

>>1727613
You tried to fix a fucking water heater with silicon and duct tape, then turned to this dumpster fire site for advice. You dont have the intelligence to know if you've learned anything. Get rid of that gun before the next round hits a person you retarded fuck. Then take cold showers until you save the money. In other words, man the fuck up!

>>1727789
Yes I have, and I'd still try it. Pipe plug would be a better bet because it will wedge in tighter as you go. Hopefully since he shot it, it will be pushed inwards in a cone shape and give him a bit more meat to work with as long as he keeps it around the same size of the bullet hole. Kinda like one of those friction drilled holes that makes the wall thickness of tubing thicker for threaded fasteners...

>>1727821
Go back to china you commie fuck

>>1727854
Wow! Diarrhea kills the shit out of people.

>>1727691
Never load a gun unless you're in an area where you can safely shoot it. If you're going to fuck around for the love of god get some snap caps. Lever action rifles can be unloaded more safely by cycling the action with your finger away from the trigger and not letting the rifle go into battery (the bolt fully closed) The lifter and ejection will still work, but it won't fire a round. But again. DON'T LOAD IF YOU CAN'T SHOOT.

>>1727620
OP isn't much of a gunnut if he was he would have checked to see if it was loaded or at the very least treated the gun like it was loaded from the start.

>>1727691
>My finger slipped
Yeah ok. And my dick slipped into your mom, it was an accident I swear! If you knew there was no safety and you HAD to cycle the gun to empty it, why the shit would you have your finger near the trigger at all? Why not just put all of your fingers in the loop or just work it with your thumb to prevent the possibility of a fuckup? Oh right, because you're a fuckup and you don't want to admit it and take your community ass chewing like a big boy.
>Seems yours may have slipped up your ass
Too bad your head slipped up your ass at some point otherwise your whole dilemma would have been avoided, and apparently it's still lodged right the fuck up there still.

>>1727696
In case you weren't aware, most if not all lever actions from the last few decades will not allow the trigger to release the hammer until the lever is fully locked, because if it isn't then the gun is somewhere between chamber unlocked and round out of battery. Plus even if it doesn't have that kind of safety, there's the little fact that the cocking implement would be in the way of the hammer at all times except while fully locked. Neither of which apply to op by his own admission btw. So no, it is not common, in fact it's almost damn near impossible. But discounting all of that, your trigger finger has this magical ability to be straight while the others are not, thereby allowing it to not sweep the trigger during the cocking motion, not that it matters in the slightest since you can't set the gun off, but still.

>>1727831
>Apx 330 mil in usa
>0.00021% died this one specific way
>over 10 years
>Multiple surveys estimate us gun ownership about 12 guns per head (averaged)
>You know it's easily double that, maybe even triple
>But let's stick with 12:1
>That's 396 million guns
>396 000 000
>And 99.9982323...% of them managed to not accidentally kill someone for 10 whole years

>>1727920
>But, if it saves just one life!

>>1727920
Derp, meant 1.2 guns per person
Math was done with correct number

>>1727427
I'll save the idiot lecture but the lack of trigger discipline that caused this is reason for a serious re-evaluation of your gun handling habits. Like seriously, I'm surrounded by live ammo here, never had an ND, neither did my father or his father before him.
> Semi-permanent solution
Cold showers until you learn how to handle guns better.
> Permanent solution
You punctured the outside wall, went THROUGH the insulation, and punctured the inside. The water heater is under 40-50 PSI of pressure from the mains alone. No amount of silicone goop, flex seal, and JB weld is going to be able to handle hydraulic pressure and heat. A radiator patch kit for a car MIGHT work but given this is potable water, and a serious hole, even that would be a temporary fix. If it's a glass lined tank, don't even bother. New water heater is in the cards, and best you do it before the home owner finds out lest you get sued for destruction of property, or some other insane nonsense.
> Muh I cant afford it
Hope your credit is OK because now is the time you use it.
> Get approved for a credit card that has 0% APR for 12-18 months, or for home depot / lowes store credit; same thing.
> Buy water heater, install; all is well in the world again
> make minimum payments keeping in mind you have a 0% interest rate until it's paid off.
Easy.
>>1727642
> Also I shot to scare because I couldn’t see exactly what it was
> Emptied the extra rounds outside so a misfire would’ve only hit the mountainside.
If you weren't a redneck before, now you are; congrats op.

>>1727799
You could use a screw with a nut on the other side and some glue to keep the water in.

>>1727427
You just hit the reservoir dog.
That shit ends pretty messy

>>1727438
>suddenly it goes off because you levered it with your finger slightly off position
Keep your goddamn booger hook off the bang switch. Jesus Christ.

>>1727911
He knew it was loaded.

All of this could've been avoided by having a clearing bucket full of sand.

>>1727662
>I’ve got my father (electrician) coming up to help basically rewire the entire kitchen for free
>>1727683
>My parents passed awhile ago, sorry to disappoint.
Fucking ghost electricians, man!

>>1727838
>ome of those accidents aren't accidents. Taking your enemies hunting is the oldest trick in the book.

Wife

>>1727949
That one got me to pretty sure he mentioned foster parents though, fucking Cuckstralia wish I could accidentally my water heater too.

>>1727613
>And honestly, I’m quite safe with firearms
The available evidence says otherwise, dumbass.

the thing is water heaters are double walled

you have the inner tank thats the part thats heated which is surrounded by fiber glass insulation then you have the outer shell

oh and that fuse box is out of code

electrical fire waiting to happen

One thing's for sure: Next time I'm changing any appliance I'll shoot it first and make a thread asking how to fix it.

>>1727428
Thats quite the bukake silicone job, but is not proper for water heater. It needs to be replaced.

>>1727433
Holy shit this place looks like a meathook abortion from electrical to plumbing... everything.

>>1727427
Are you really the same ducking guy who repaired his door with foam? You’re a ducking legend man

>>1727531
Such is life when around retards handling arms. That cannot into basic safety like boogerhook off the bang switch.

Maybe he will get lucky and a short and a fire can burn the entire residence down?

>>1727666
This is board culture no matter where you go here. There are very experienced and supremely knowledgable people here... but there are also retards. You alone must evaluate the advice and decide what to do as is true of anything.

Annon you did something supremely retarded, you should expect the lumps that come with that. You are lucky the neglegently discharged round did not damage something more critical and/or precious.

I have enjoyed this thread... both your persistent posting and the sarcastic and entertaining responses. Take your lumps for you deserve them. Learn from this experience and be glad it was not more serious.

I would have recommended cutting away outer shell in that area carefully to reveal inner tank for inspection and temporary repair. That is the tank you need be most concerned about... the outer skin is just there to seal the insulation between inner and outer tank.

Dont make a silicone bukake ... just the high temp water weld stuff applied liberally to the affected area and spread out to give it as much surface area to hold to as possible.

The ultimate Punchline is it needs replaced and the annon who recommended the 0% intrest credit card from lowes or homeless despot is probably your best option. ...

>>1727815
PEX is childsplay plumbing... should be easy.

>>1727535
OP LISTEN TO THIS GUY. THERE IS A TANK INSIDE OF A TANK, WITH A LAYER OF INSULATION BETWEEN THE TWO. THIS KEEPS THE HOT WATER HOT FOR LONGER. YOU HAVE TWO HOLES TO REPAIR, THE INSIDE TANK, AND THE EXTERIOR SHELL. PULL OUT THE INSULATION FROM THE HOLE AND YOU'LL SEE THE SECOND TANK THAT ACTUALLY HOLDS THE WATER. RIGHT NOW IF YOU TURN THAT ON, YOU WILL GET WATER ALL OVER THE INSULATION AND THEN THE INSULATION WILL GET INSIDE THE ACTUAL WATER TANK

>>1727854
why did it leave out abortion?

>>1727428
Lmao silicone ain’t gonna hold against 50+ psi water pressure. Silicone is only good for drainage purposes.

>>1728012
I am indeed that same retard.

Also this is how I fixed the broken lock since Lowe’s doesn’t sell pocket door handles.

>>1728019
Yeah, had I not made this thread I would have waited 24 hours for the silicon bukkake job to try and then tried to fill the tank and would’ve gotten water everywhere... again. And would’ve been a day behind.
I’m scouting the local ads on Craigslist to see if I can find a used one cheaper, but other than that the credit card sounds like it may be a good idea.

And I definitely deserve the lumps, though nobody could curse my name more than I have in the past 24 hours.

Welp, going to take my nice frosty shower and see if I can take this tank out. No idea how I’m going to to do that considering where it’s at. Seems like that red panel is nailed in, and here I am without a crowbar.

>>1728007
It’s really just the kitchen, but yeah the wiring is definitely not up to code at all. Apparently they remodeled every part of the house like 5 years ago, but stopped at the kitchen. So I’m trying to help finish up that, at least so it’s safer. Landlady said I could make whatever upgrades I wanted as long as I didn’t change her color red of her cabinets, was very firm on that. Strange lady, doubt she even knows how bad it really is as she lives hours away.

>>1728154

>"doubt she even knows how bad it really is"

You don't say Anon...

>>1728178
Okay that really cracked me up, thanks anon.

Really hoping baking soda vaccuums up as easily as people say it does.

>not drilling the hole out, tapping it, and adding a bolt or plug with some thread dope
I am not reading this whole thread, but did anyone suggest this? The tank is already tapped in a few places. What’s one more?

>>1728194
Those tanks aren’t tapped, they weld a threaded connection on.

>>1727932
So do I have to go buy my own confederate flag or will I get it in the mail?

>>1727620
Cry more, euronigger

OP here, having trouble getting this wooden panel off to actually access the tank. Only thing that seems to be holding it in place are what I assume are tiny nails on the side. Pic related. I can’t access the nail without really digging into the wood it seems like, and that would be doing more damage.

>inb4 just shoot them out.

Only have a box of ammo and it seems like it would be a bad idea to discharge a firearm indoors.

>>1728275
You can have the wooden panel when you pry it from the cabinets cold dead hands.

>>1728286
well I already shot it, shouldn't it be dead by now?

OP here, another update is a managed to find one with the right dimensions for $130. just gotta drive 2 hours to pick it up, and figure out how to remove this panel without tearing the wood up.
But things are looking up because I certainly couldn't afford to shell out $400 + a plumber, will try to pick it up tomorrow and give updates. Still need help with this panel, anyone think I could cut the nails somehow?

>>1727666
>Including the fact that this board seems to be just as toxic as most of the other 4chan boards
Go fuck yourself you redneck retarded nigger who can't even hold a fucking gun without fucking up the house that isn't yours

>>1727942
This
>>1727427
Sell your gun(s) to pay for your fuck up. You shouldn't own any anyway if you can't take responsibility.

>>1728303
>You shouldn't own any anyway if you can't take responsibility.
This whole thread is OP refusing to take actual responsibility

>>1728275
small prybar gently lift the wood up you wont be able to pull the finish nails theres no head

>>1728304
Right. That's what I'm getting at.
To have an ND is one thing, it's another to refuse to acknowledge its solely your fault and to fix any issues that arise from your mistake.

>>1728308
All the retarded kiddo had to do was come clean to the landlord and he'd learn a valuable lesson.

Hey OP, what are you going to college for you top-tier retard?

>>1728199
Why would you weld a thread? Use locktite

>>1728311
Picture something like this welded to the tank.

>>1728308
Huh, how am I refusing to acknowledge and accept that it’s my fault/responsibility? I’ve done that several times. I fucked up big time, and learned my lesson.
I am literally here trying to fix the issue that arose from me fucking up.
I have already arranged to buy a new water heater and finally figured out how to remove the panel to gain access.

At least I’m not doing some of the things I could, which is blame it on the past tenant and say it’s leaking and have her foot the bill for buying and replacing a new one. Something she wouldn’t even question after how badly the other tenant treated the place. (There are other bullet holes around the house that certainly weren’t from me.) I’m not asking family, friends or hell anyone for money to cover the cost or help me install it.

I’m asking for nothing but advice on how to best fix my mistake from people who presumably have more knowledge on the subject than me. And if you haven’t noticed, I’m following what I think is decent advice, generally going with multiple people saying the same thing. I’m fixing my mistake. So fuck off with your mighteir than thou attitude if you’ve got nothing helpful to add. I’m a dude that made a stupid mistake and is trying to fix it. Don’t act like you’ve never fucked up in your life.
>>1728310
Telling the landlady, if I could even easily get in contact with her would just cause her stress and possibly money. If a plumber were to come and look under the sink I don’t know if he’d even do the job with all the the way out of code wiring down there. Then she would have to pay an electrician and I’m already trying to fix that for her free of charge.
Not sure why all of you think I’m this terrible person, but I suppose that’s your opinion to have.

I’m majoring in Chemistry. So yeah, my skill sets lie far from home maintenance. But I’d like to learn. Thought I made that clear.
Tomorrow I’m going learn how to install a water heater

>>1728323
>I’m majoring in Chemistry
God help whoever is cursed to share a lab with you full of dangerous chemicals if you can't even handle babbys first rifle

>>1728323
Funny I've never launched lead anywhere other than down range. You tried to blame the gun for your retardation, you tried to blame you being inside, tried to blame cycling the action and your finger is 'slightly off position'. What happened is you pulled the trigger of a loaded gun in 'your' home and it wasn't aimed where it should have been, squarely between your eyes. Your the type to say it's not my fault I killed a. Family while drinking and driving, I was drunk and couldn't make a decision!
You can try to be a grown up by telling you landlord, they'll probably just get it fixed and keep your security deposit. Or just pay your deductible for your renters insurance, you were at least grown up enough to get insurance right?

>>1728323
>Telling the landlady, if I could even easily get in contact with her would just cause her stress and possibly money
That's what being a fucking landlord comes with you turbo-tard

>>1728325
I’ve got over 200 hours of lab experience so far and other than a broken vial or two I’ve had few mishaps and none that harmed anyone.
Shit happens sometimes, I am learning from my mistake. Not sure how else to appease all of you who just want to pile on the insult train but I do appreciate the advice some anons have given. I’m a book smart kind of guy, obviously firearm and home maintenance retarded kind of guy.

Just so everyone knows, I will never again in my life allow or handle a loaded firearm in my house, unless it’s a life or death emergency. Have 100% learned this lesson.
I grew up around a lot of liberals. And I’ve had to teach myself everything I know about using my first rifle so far.
Or learn the hard way like I am doing now.

>>1728332
I blamed myself for everything and at least had the sense to keep the rifle pointed away from anything living, which I do at all times.

Yes I have renters insurance but the deductible is too high to use for this.

>>1728335
>Just so everyone knows, I will never again in my life allow or handle a loaded firearm in my house
That's an even more retarded stance to take. If your buddy wants to bring a loaded gun in your house are you going to sperg out at him and say no because you were a retard?

>>1728339
If op had just left it loaded it would have been fine

>>1727613

>hot showers

just take cold showers or go to the YMCA. I'm no water heater expert but imagine what happens when you do hack job and somehow something else gets damaged because of flooding/etc. You might feel like an asshole now, but you'll really feel like an asshole if that happens.

>>1728339
I’d ask him to unload it outside, or keep the clip in the car? But I don’t have any friends that own firearms. (Liberals)
It was more intended to say that I would not be keeping my firearms loaded inside.

And yeah, I could have left the last round in, but it makes me nervous as my gf has had suicidal tendencies in the past. I keep it unloaded, and put a trigger lock on it when I’m not home. But I’m sure there isn’t something retarded about those actions as well, just wait.

>>1728347
I don’t think I could do more of a hack job than whoever installed it and the wiring under there. It doesn’t seem that hard to install a water heater when dealing with just plastic tubing. Plus as I said earlier my father is coming this weekend and if it doesn’t look right he will know how to correct it. Plus you all will get to see what it looks like before I cut the water and power back on, and if it looks terribly done I’m sure I’ll be told. If too many people tell me it’s shit and to kill my self I’ll just wait until he gets up here to help. It’ll be done right, I’ll make sure of that. And you lovely and super polite gents will be free to critique.

>>1728351
>I’d ask him to unload it outside, or keep the clip in the car?
Because you assume he's as irresponsible as you? You don't need to go full liberal pussy mode because you fucked up once
>It was more intended to say that I would not be keeping my firearms loaded inside.
Just keep your finger off the trigger. I've had two loaded guns sitting in my room for years now that haven't mysteriously shot a hole through my water heater
>But I’m sure there isn’t something retarded about those actions as well, just wait.
The fact that you need to use the protections meant to keep literal children from mishandling guns is incredibly telling. I'm almost curious about your opinions on Trump but I already know

>>1728337
40g installed is probably 1kish.

>>1728368
deductible is 1.2k, if my method works it'll be less than $200 to replace, with a newer model at that. My dad told me to never pay another man to do a job that you could do yourself. And from the research I have done, installing a small water heater is relatively simple as long as long you aren't dealing with copper tubing.

>>1727427
It's a pressure vessel, your only option is welding a patch over it or replacing it. There are more elaborate solutions we use in industrial application but they are way more expensive than a new water heater. And they will be noticable.

Stop playing with guns if you can't control them, it's a lot harder to stop a leak in a human.

>>1728358
My gf has mental issues that makes those protections necessary.

I don't particularly like the guy, he is poorly spoken, is obviously narcissistic, and has little experience in the job he is doing. So my stance on the person is that I wouldn't have a beer with him, but some of his policies I agree with. Some I do not.

I work with this kind of stuff, I have seen fiberglass matting and resin patches work on small water heater cracks, but they leak eventually. Thing with water heaters is the pressure. They build when heating water, even the pressure just from your water main can be up to 90psi so a patch won't be ideal and will leak

>>1728382
So I have here learned, replacing it tomorrow it looks like. Not trying to repair anymore at all.

And I wasn't playing with it, but for the nth time, duly noted, lesson learned, etc.

>>1728388
At this point a patch is out of the question anyway as I already arranged to get a new one. Installing it will just be the tricky-ish part.

>>1728392
Installing a water heater is piss easy. For npt fittings use blue monster ptfe pipe dope. Gas fittings can go together fine with the yellow teflon which is cheaper but make sure you wrap it right. Any flare/compression fittings go together dry. Does everything hard piped line up?

>>1728393
I am not familiar with the term "hard piped", but all the tubing I see is flexible, don't even see hard PVC tubing. It is electric so I won't have to worry about anything natural gas related.

>>1728393
I saw on some youtube how-to video that they sell installation kits at lowes for this sort of thing, do you think that would be worthwhile?

>>1728399
Hard piped means ridgid piping directly connected to the unit. If it's flex hose you shouldn't have a fitment issue. Is there a cord with plug connected to the water heater or will you need to terminate the connections?

This is the top of the heater with some sort of insulation I haven’t yet disassembled. So I’m not 100% sure what I’m working with yet.

>>1728399
>>1728406
Example of hard piped

These are the two water connections I had to turn off in order to stop water flow to the tank.
Note that the one in the very back is really shitty because apparently it has to be positioned precisely in the “middle”, sorry I don’t know the technical terms, but basically it confused me because it seemed like turning it one way or the other both had water going through it. Until I had it positioned perfectly perpendicular to the hose.

>>1728412
It is definitely not that, there wouldn’t be room. Working with a space maybe 35” high by 24” wide by 30” deep.

>>1728406
As for electrical connection I assume I have to terminate, but I have never even seen a fuse box like the one they are using. Pic related somewhere above. I had to pull out a fuse to get it to stop trying to heat. ill post a pic here in a moment.

I had to yank this out to cut power. Not electrocuting myself during tomorrow’s operation is obviously my top concern at the moment.

>>1728411
>>1728415
Looks like it might be hard piped but won't know till you remove insulation and expose the connection. At least if they don't line up it's PVC so they'll be cheap and easy so you can rerun the pipe. If you need to, of course. The pipe should be CPVC but the pipe in your pic looks too white(cpvc has a yellowish color) but it may be a lighting issue. PVC and CPVC have incompatible fittings so you need to make sure which it is, but once again only an issue if the connections don't line up.

>>1728415
That valve is a ball valve, known by some as a quarter turn valve. That's how they operate, different than the standard gate valve.

>>1728417
It's how the pipes connect to the water heater, not how long they are.

>>1728418
>>1728420
Can you show a pic of where the power gets to the unit?

>>1728428
This is about as good of a shot as I can get

>>1728428
>That valve is a ball valve, known by some as a quarter turn valve. That's how they operate, different than the standard gate valve.
Well that valve can go fuck itself, took a good 2-3 minutes of carefully adjusting to get it to where it was actually off.

>>1728431
Where does that cord end?

>>1728433
Ball valves are great, they should have 2 nubs on them that stop the handle in the right spot. Sometimes a loose handle can cause them not to make contact when they should, or they broke off or it's a cheap valve.

>>1728431
What I mean is where does the other end of the cord go?

Gotta go to bed bro, I'll check back tomorrow. Just wondering how they wired it up so I can make some suggestions if you need them.

>>1728438
It goes directly into that mess of a fusebox, as pictured above. Its one of the many tangled off white cords in this >>1728420

>>1728453
Can follow the cord and see if I can find which fuse it is wired into, if that'll help?

>>1728454
>>1728449

I went ahead and took two more picture for you Incase you look at this in the morning, I’ll be trying disassemble after I go drive for 4 hours to get the new one. So depending on the guy probably not until later on in the evening.
I do very much appreciate the input.

The marked wire is the that goes from there, directly into the picture above where it vanishes under a panel covered in goop.

>>1727427
Shut off the water and don’t use it . Shower at a friends house for the cost of non working hacks .
When you can afford it , get someone to do a water clean up and hot water heater replacement .
By the time you’re done throwing money trying to patch it . You probably could have had it replaced .

>>1728479
Already did a water clean up and I’m going to attempt to replace tomorrow.

>>1727535
yes this Anon is speaking truth. what you need to be worrying about is the tank under the insulation. probably easier if you look for free scrap electric water heater on CL that doesn't leak and swap the heating elements. I forget how much pressure is the norm on tank but any patching you try is probably not going to work

>>1727427
>I’m renting
I hate you fucks. I'm going to pray to my lord and saviour, Jesus, that someone in this thread recognizes you and calls your landlord and you get evicted and put in jail.

>>1728531
Is that what Jesus would say?

First note: turn off water to entire house while working on it.
Pex plus sharkbites will work for you. (everyone will say shit here, but sharkbites are ok in wall, fully legit unless local code says otherwise, I'd trust push fittings over ProPress myself)

Instead of rushing and messing up, you can use extra length to hook it up while it's not under the cabinet, and just a piece of romex, wirenuts and electrical tape to extend the electricity.
Get a water heater pan for it too. Duct tape the pan drain hole until you're gonna install everything properly (running a drain for the pan)

If you are trying to fix things up and do it right, clean it out under there, repair/replace wood, install a drain pan with a drain ran somewhere if possible. Clean up/replace wiring. Seal the walls up inside. You might want to try and reroute the plumbing, even if you just use an extra bit of pex and a sharkbite ballvalve, so there is a valve you can access easily. Turn the cabinet panel into an access panel that can be removed with just a few screws, don't nail it back in.

-Identify the greyish looking pipe, is is PolyButylene? PB is banned, lots of class action suits, the stuff fails in unexpected ways,etc. If it is PB, see how much is there and how hard to replace. There are sharkbite fittings made to connect PB to pex properly and safely.

>>1728533
Even Jesus would evict a shitbag like you.

>>1728335
> I will never again in my life allow or handle a loaded firearm in my house.
unless it’s a life or death emergency.
So it's the guns fault, and people now need to suffer because of your accident? Please. Are you going to ask the cops to disarm if they come into your home too?
You learned the wrong lesson. The right one is called *trigger discipline*. Loaded guns are fine, bad discipline is not. Learn good discipline, and this would have never happened. Punishing other people and yourself for a lifetime just increases the chance of it happening again. I'd rather you did exercises with live ammo, an hour a day EVERY DAY until you got this right instead of following this new "rule" you're forcing yourself to follow.

Send pics of current hookup, at least replacing the water heater is the ez part.

Funnest thread I've been in for awhile. Can't water heaters explode? Is there any chance OP will be vaporized during his back alley abortion of a "repair" job?

>>1728543
>being this rustled because somebody else decides he doesn't want a loaded gun in his house

>>1727427
>I can’t afford a brand new 40 gal water heater for a house that ain’t mine.

Listen here you fucking nigger, you are the one going illegally discharging a firearm in a house that isnt your and youre the one that shot a water heater that wasnt yours. this is YOUR mess to clean up. This isnt a tank that rusted out, YOU FUCKING SHOT IT. PAY FOR IT.

>>1728541
You don't even know me. I'm not OP. You don't believe in determinism?

>>1727431
>fuses
>fucking ductape
>some other weird tape that dont look electrical
>is that cloth coated wire comming out the bottom?
>>1727433
>blue plastic to copper brazed to copper threaded to brass threaded to copper brazed to copper to white plastic
jesus fucking christ

>>1727613
>safe with firearms
>shooting through the fucking house because you got spooked

>to be fair I’m not used to level action
>lever action made me shoot through the walls

>>1728553
It is pretty funny. I'm thinking of shooting a hole in mine to see if the pipe thread or tire repair would work. I think a tire plug would definitely. Not sure if wall thickness is so great for the other but maybe with a rivnut. I guess these faggots have OP beaten into doing the right thing. I'm glued to my seat.

>>1727431
>fuses in 2020
>fucking ductape
>some other weird tape that dont look electrical
>is that cloth coated wire comming out the bottom?
>>1727433
>blue plastic to copper brazed to copper threaded to brass threaded to copper brazed to copper to white plastic
jesus fucking christ

>>1727613
>safe with firearms
>shooting through the fucking house because you got spooked

>to be fair I’m not used to level action
>lever action made me shoot through the walls

In OP's defense. Those guns are kinda good for unintentional discharges.

>>1728553
Yes, probably not.
Its more likely that its leaking inside the tank still and the fiberglass insulation is going to soak up the water and the whole tank is going to fill with black mold that will inevitably start getting served with every use of the tap.

>>1728566
Has anyone told /k/ about this? I don't know how to use internets.

>>1728566
>definding op
ok now youre incompetent by association.
If the guns are prone to discharging themselves then they shouldnt be loaded in the fucking house.

>>1728569
Famous last words bucko. I have more guns than I can count for longer than I can remember. Never had a problem but, I'd be a fool to think I never will. I know a guy who knows a guy who was a gun smith for almost forty years before he accidentally shot him self in the stomach.

>>1728564
You, my friend, have have the satisfaction that after I install a new water heater; I’m going to fuck with the old one as much as I have time for. In the end, I will set it far up on the mountain side painted in some sort of bright color so I can use it as a plinking target for awhile. At least I know it’ll catch all the lead.

>>1728565
I didn’t do the wiring.

I did fuck up and shoot while spooked.

Question is, which one has a better chance of killing someone?

OP here, honestly this all may be a blessing in disguise but I’m reading more and more about how dangerous the wiring is down there.

So maybe almighty god decided to teach me a lesson about electrical safety and when to request landlady move to a breaker box.
Praise be the lord.

>>1728556
Read the thread friend, he has clearly come to this decision.

>>1728535
Thank you rare helpful anon, your words will be taken into consideration.

>>1728531
Op:
Fuck your lord and savior mine is obviously stronger otherwise he would not allow this thread to begin with and my landlady would be phoning me up a we speak.

>>1728531
>my *landlord and savior*!

Fixed that for you, you incapable cuck of a human being. Learn to do some things yourself or get the fuck off this board as it obviously isn’t meant for you.

>>1728555
This.

>>1728351
It's a magazine, not a clip.
Just fucking tell your landlord, retard. I've been in the same fucking position you were in and that's what I did. You probably won't get your deposit back, but that's kind of the point of having a deposit. Be more careful with your gun next time. You can keep it loaded, it's not gonna go off by itself. It went off this time because you made a retarded mistake. Learn from it.
Don't try to fix the water heater yourself. You have no idea what you're doing with it and you likely won't have the necessary tools to do so anyway.

>>1728593
Having read further, I see you went and replaced it. Glad you didn't try to repair the heater.

>>1728345
kek

Ok Ive had enuff of you punks any one of you like to meet in person and run your cum dumpster ill show you how my water heater felt

>>1728617
You should stick your penis in the hole when it's warming up. Might be fun for a min.

>>1728568
Oh yeah. We’re here

>>1728323
>majoring in Chemistry.
Hey fellow chemist anon

While were on the topic of giving you advice, either major in physics/ChemE or make sure you take extra classes to havr marketable skills.
>be me
>get a phd in chem
>all my friends are rich now while Im stuck 5 years behind salary/savings wise

>>1727666
You're alright anon, I'd buy you a beer if you lived anywhere near the bay area.
Heck, send me your paypal and Ill buy you a beer wherever you are.

>>1728696
yesthisistotallyop@gmail.com
A beer costs about 50USD here btw. :^)

>>1728504
Bleach that entire area to stop and prevent mold

>>1728583
>it’ll catch all the lead
Maybe not without water in it. Please do update posts.

>>1728696
OP here, That other guy obviously isn’t me to I hope you didn’t send him any money lol

Getting ready to take another cold shower and then finish prying this panel off before going to pick up the new heater.

I’d take you up on that offer but I’m nowhere near the Bay Area and I don’t even remember my paypal info it’s been so long since I used it.

>>1728692
I’ve been hearing that from multitple people and it’s depressing. I have been considering minoring in geology though, I figure maybe that might help and I’m actually interested in it.

>>1728738
True about the water, but I figure the insulation and 4 layers of metal should be enough, guess we will find out. Soon as I pull it out I’ll just take it out back and shoot it again for good measure. I’ll keep everyone updated don’t worry.

>>1728718
Oh I already know, I had a mold issue during the summer months when the humidity got really high. I’ve had two dehumidifiers running in the kitchen since it happened, still have them going even though everything is drier than a camel's asshole in a sandstorm.

>>1728835
Hm that email did seem suspicious...

Anyway Godspeed.

>>1728188
That rug is fucked unless you wash it, it will mold from the underside.

>>1727438
You are a piece of shit. You have an excuse for firing a gun negligently, and an excuse why you shouldnt have to replace something you ruined. So you come here hoping to get help screwing over your landlord.

Fuck you.

Get rid of the gun you ignorant hillbilly fuck. Skip buying video games for your fat girlfriend's half black kids and replace the thing that belongs to someone else that you destroyed through negligence.

>>1728947
oh my the land lord what will he ever do did with his deposit

>>1728947
Shup foo!

>>1728936
Rug has been fucked since we moved in, are probably going to ditch it and replace it anyway.
>>1728947
Woah, man, chill. Read the thread, I took full responsibility for my stupidity.
And fully intend to replace it, that’s actually what I’m coming here to update you guys on. I spent the last 5 hours on a quest to get a replacement and succeeded. I bought it for $130 from an actual plumber. He said the cold water side looked as if it had leaked in the past but when he got there it was working fine and not leaking. He had just taken it out of a house two days ago, only reason they got rid of it was they were upgrading to a tankless system. He was kind enough to give me an extra fitting to replace the one that possibly had leaked in the past, to ensure it wouldn’t.
He also spent about 45 minutes giving me advice on how to install it and the do’s and don’ts of PEX, what tools I would need, how to shut off water to the house in a way where if the valve that may not have been touched in years starts leaking after I adjust it, I can call the city to have them fix their own thing. How to shut it off from the meter I suppose. I don’t know all the terminology. Also told me to call him if I had any trouble or had anymore questions.
Then went on to show me a map of an old fishing spot he used to go to when he was younger. Back off some abandoned logging roads that are apparently basically in my backyard as he grew up around where I live. It was a genuinely pleasant interaction and I told him I’d go looking for it when it warmed up and send him pictures if I found it.

Anyway, here’s a picture of the replacement so all of you can stop worrying that I’m going to fuck over my landlady.

>>1729068
Oops, forgot the picture.

I had planned on trying to do the job today but he advised me to start on it in the morning since I’ll probably have to make several trips to Lowe’s and they were closing as I got back towards home because we were talking for so long.

>>1729069
And don’t worry guys, I’m going to repaint and touch up any areas I scuff the paint. Already had planned to do that because I had mice problems and tried to use duct tape to seal the cabinets as I knew they were coming in from there.
(Yes that was a stupid solution, but I needed one to put my gf’s mind at ease after she screamed when she saw it pop out.)

To reiterate, I’m fixing this the right way. Not fucking over anyone, that’s really not my style. And I genuinely would like to learn how to do this.

>>1729068
>stupidity
You ain't stupid. You live and learn. Whoever hasn't fucked up, just got lucky.

I thought you said it was a 40 gallon unit. That is not a 40 gallon unit. A 40 gallon water heater stands about 5 feet tall.

>>1729087
Not all of them? some are wider and shorter, as to fit in spaces such as the one I am forced to work in.

>>1729079
Thanks mate, appreciate it. I am learning quite a bit this week.

>>1729089
Still looks too small in pics. Will it even fit under the countertop?

>>1728584
lol at this point its hard to tell.
The electrical work has been fine since 1920, got a long record of bot starting a fire for 100 years and counting. Id wager itll be fine for a few more years.

That repair on the water heater however is concerning.
Water heaters have an inner tank, then a layer of insulation, then an outer shell.
It looks like you patched the outer shell, and the inner shell isnt really sealed. So the insulation cavity could fill up with water up to the point of the bullet hole. Every bit of insulation above the water hole will wick up water like a sponge. The dame and airy insulation will grow mold which will eventually grow and spread inside the tank. Eventually a small amount will reach the main tank cavity and possibly make its way through the pipes and into a kids glass of water.
Sure tanks get hot, it might kill them, but I dont know if they actually get THAT hot. Its a "water heater" not a "boiler". It does not imply the water will be sterile. Once you consider that these tanks are literally mineral traps then this becomes a real concern.

>>1729091
God I hope so, but it is the same exact dimensions as the one that is there, maybe .5 inches taller, but the height is the one area I have a few inches of wiggle room. It will be a pain in the ass, and if you look at the above pics I think it shows how clearly the one that is there was literally just shoved into the opening, and that they cut metal from a crawlspace behind the counter in order for it to fit. Thus the mice issues.

>>1729097
Which is why I have opted to replace and not repair, as per this boards very helpful advice. :)

>>1727620
Yeah gun nuts are so much worse than the millions of texting/drunk drivers.

>>1729097
problem with that type of old fuse box, from what I have read, is that people insert fuses that exceed the amperage of the wiring, leading to possible fire hazards. I have not fucked with the fuses until this point, and ironically half the fixtures/outlets in the kitchen don't seem to work anyway. Maybe a blown fuse? I have not yet pressed my face into mice shit to check the individual glass fuses, but will soon enough.

>>1729182
Ironic in the sense that I can't start a house fire if I can't even turn the kitchen overhead light on.

>>1729126
gun nuts are not the problem, people being stupid with guns and causing negligent damages or sometimes injury or deaths are the problem. Those people should be either better educated or not allowed to own firearms.

-Actual OP

And I agree that I should be better educated, though this incident has sure brought me to class. But also I do not disagree with mandatory gun safety training as maybe a high school course, or something offered for free before purchasing a firearm.
I really do not want to start the whole debate back up and summon all the /k/ haters but people need not to be ignorant when handling dangerous tools.

A lesson I have learned.

(and of course drunk drivers, lightening strikes, and plane crashes might outnumber the statistics of gun mishaps, but they are different issues and should be viewed as such.)

anyway, I am done with my homework, going to take another cold shower, hopefully my second to last, and head to bed. If all goes well I will install the new tank, roll up and ditch the carpet and order a new one, retouch the paint on the cabinets, and all will be well for a fraction of the cost it could have been. SPECIAL THANKS TO THE ANON THAT SUGGESTED CHECKING FOR USED TANKS. I now have a licensed plumber I can call for help if needed and that alone is probably worth the 4 hour drive and $130.

Thank you once again to the helpful anons.
ill provide further updates tomorrow afternoon, well wishes to you all.

>>1729097
Luckily, nobody drinks hot water.

>>1727436
The problem you have is that you don't understand how a water tank is constructed. The outside metal skin is not the tank. There is an inner tank, and you need to remove the outside skin to get to it. If you know a welder, maybe he can seal that inner tank, but they need to hold pressure, because they can blow up if they overheat.

Don't be a dumbass that tried to save $300 and blows his house up.

Just buy a tank, and chalk it up to firearms safety education.

>>1729097
>>1729218

That had to be some high mineral content water, like well water to be that nasty. I've cut up water heaters for the sheet metal a couple times and there was hardly anything in them at all. And they were in service for 7+ years.

>>1729224
way to read the thread dumbass

you can see all the retards on this board

>>1727774
This. this is your best bet at actually enabling the tank to work again even temporarily.

>>1727854
This chart is a little deceptive. Many of those deaths from various illnesses are actually the result of malpractice and medical errors of all kinds, ranging from misdiagnosis to cutting major arteries during surgeries. Medical malfeasance as ~3rd leading cause of death in the USA.

And anon thought retards with guns were dangerous.

>>1727940
Can't get a nut inside the pressure vessel that's larger than the hole.

>>1728071
Clever girls.

>>1728275
Well, anon, if you can find a flat bar, you can insert it between the wood to pry off the trim piece, but you aren't going to do that without damaging the paint. You need some of that paint to be able to finish the job without doing the one thing the landlady told you not to do.

>>1728420
Do consider cutting the main power before inserting that fuse.

>>1728458
Jesus. That thing is ancient.

>>1728533
If Jesus had rented to the stupid people I have, he would. Have you ever seen a house where crackheads bashed holes in the walls so they could wrap chains around the electrical wires, rip them out with a pickup truck, and sell them for crack money?

I have. Jesus would crucify them.

>>1728564
.30-.30 bullet is more than 7.5mm. I really doubt hard you could seal such a large hole with rubber plugs meant for a tire.

>>1728566
Every gun is good for NEGLIGENT discharge, caused by lack of familiarity and practice with said firearm.

There is no excuse for not knowing how to use a tool you're using. bractice makes berfect.

>>1728584
Honestly? That fucking wiring.

>>1729229
You aren't wrong. I posted before reading any of the thread beyond the OP. Unaware others had caused him to understand this, and prevented him from allowing water to reach the electrical connections and burn his house down.

>>1729249
Yeah that’s the only way it looks like I’m going to do it, I’m going to bring a drawer to lowes to see if I can get the color matched. As I said earlier, I already needed to touch up some other areas. And well, there are plenty of scuffs that I didn’t cause that I might as well get while I’m at it.

>>1729253
Here’s the thing, I already tried cutting what I thought was the main power for the house from the breaker box. Everything in the house turned off EXCEPT anything connected to that fuse box. Is there something I’m missing? I mean obviously there is, but how else does one cut the power? Can I do it from the meter outside?

I did take out, and replace that fuse a few times though to make sure it was what turned off the heater, so I think it’s fairly safe. Either way I’m doing it with one hand behind my back and my fingers crossed.

>>1729503
Just for extra style points, get yourself a pack (or grab some from your doctor's office when they make you wait in the exam room) of exam gloves. They're non-conductive, and keep your hands clean to boot.

>>1729532
The fuse is designed to be taken out and replaced safely, but then, .30-.30's are designed to unload safely, and you seem to have a tendency for your fingers to slip in just the wrong way.

OP I would not use a cylinder as a target. The tendency for ricochet off a round surface is high. Not really bad mouthing you or your shooting skills, as that has been overdone already.

Its just a general principle and shots slightly off to the left or right will ricochet off the angled surface. This may not present a problem at all if you choose a suitable backdrop (which there is no excuse for not doing) except not scattering pellets of toxic lead across a place innawoods.

>>1729538
oh man that toxic lead so toxic it will kill you just looking at it from 50ft
whats with people being so butthurt when you shoot a gun inside this thread is almost 300 post of asshurt

>>1729542
Dude I have been eating shit I riddled with lead since birth. I'm not some kinda nogunner. Basic principles of environmental consideration just recommend not spraying toxic chemical, such as lead, when easy to avoid.

>>1729538
You know that they just dig lead out of the ground right?

>>1729559
Sure, generally not wherever vibrant ecosystems are though, because lead is poisonous. Also, anon is leaving, and won't be likely to dig up his spent bullets.

There's just no point in setting up a round steel cylinder as a target that will almost certainly cause bullets to ricochet. It's not even primarily scattering lead residue innawoods, but the scattering of projectiles into the immediate area where sooner or later something's gonna get hit by one that you didn't intend to shoot.

Just a series of bad ideas prone to variously catastrophic accidental negative impacts.

>>1729260
.30 is 7.62 (nominal .308) and the suggestion was to use two pligs twisted together.
>>1729262
Show me who is perfect you creation of nature. Jeff Cooper is responsible for the training of nearly all modern techniques and he accidentally shot his gas meter. Are you better than him? I don't think so. Your stupid notions are good for keeping safe but they are not true to real life. I have never done anything dumb with a gun but I have realized that I was being dumb and seen others not realize it. I'm sure, if we went shooting, we would see each other acting like idiots. if you don't know this, you don't know dick. OP has learned his lesson better than a lot of us. I hope we won't need to.

>>1729567
He said he was putting on hillside. Lead can be found in beautiful places such as the ozarks. You can't show me a picture of someone with lead poisoning because it isn't that harmful. People are walking around with bullets in them. Animals shit it out. If you were using a lead spoon every day for 50 years, you might have a problem.

>>1729588
not even you need to get the lead into a form the body can absorb you would actually be fine from a lead spoon. its when it gets dissolved in water and alcohol when its a problem. same deal with mercury but mercury was banned because what it does to aluminum they dont want it to be a common thing anymore because if it spilled in a plane the plane would break in half mid air

>>1729579
I still doubt those plugs will work. Just a gut feeling, since the steel being plugged has no give unlike rubber tires.

I make no claim to perfection, and you are picking hairs with a common phrase meant to encourage seeking to be perfect. I have been using firearms since I was a small child, and while I have never discharged on negligently, people learn by doing, or die because they don't. OP did learn, and that's a good thing.

Practice with his firearm will improve his ability to handle it safely. That is my point.

>>1729588
You may ignore general principles upon which to determine what practices are acceptable to you. I proceed to base my actions in this matter on two general principles: 1) lead is toxic, and 2) ricochets are bad.

>>1729598
lead is not toxic thats a myth

>>1729594
>That is my point.
Point taken. Unfortunately, OP was brought up gunless. Even if I hated guns, I would still want my child to understand them, so this doesn't happen.
>>1729598
Ok. Guess you're right. Not SO bad though.

>>1729605
[citation needed]

That's a fairly profound disagreement with science generally accepted presently. Lead in gasoline, lead water pipes, lead pigments in paint, and lead solder for copper plumbing has all been expensively eliminated from the market, and ongoing efforts to end the use of lead bullets continue, and significantly increase cost of products.

Why would this be a meme?

>>1729619
copper will kill you even faster but no one talks about that
also it takes way less for a gram of water to kill you than a gram of lead think about it

you are controlled goy

>>1729620
Copper is far harder than lead and is dissolved in water much more slowly, decreasing it's rate of injury when used for plumbing nominally for it to be safe on the scale of human life spans.

>It takes way less for a gram of water to kill you than lead

Trolling? I am convinced that hundreds of millions of dead on battlefields refute the possibility of this being potentially factual.

>>1729588
One of the best explanations for the drop in crime in the end of the20th century is that the 1st world switched to unleaded gasoline.

Everyone used to have lead poisoning

>>1729624
water you just have to breath in lead requires it to be shot by massive chemical energy meaning anything going that fast is deadly

battlefields all around the world by your logic everyone should be dead by all the billions of stray bullets around the world

>>1729663
You breathe in water in your every breath. I note water vapor is up to 4% of the atmosphere. I am extremely doubtful that breathing in a gram of H2O is even conceivably fatal.

Yes, I was trolling you regarding battlefield application of lead pellets.

Still, you provide zero evidence lead is not toxic. Troll for troll bro.

>>1729629
Well, that's a very interesting idea. The legalization of abortion has also been credited for this. I have a theory that the increased affordability of microwave ovens in the mid 80s made people fatter.

>>1729667
Not him but really. I've googled the shit out of that. Nobody has lead poisoning.

>>1729670
HFCS and the increased availability of processed foods certainly contributed to increased obesity.

>>1729674
Have you looked at claims lead paint chips retarded children, that lead water pipes and cookware, and lead solder on copper water pipes caused brain damage?

I would be pretty surprised if there was some grand conspiracy level bullshit regarding lead toxicity.

>>1729676
>I would be pretty surprised
I guess you would.

>>1729680
Not an answer. KYS troll

>>1729683
Those are troll words. How many retarded boomers do you know?

>>1729711
Just you, and thankfully I don't know you.

>>1729588
It’s a mountainside actually, up here. Kinda hard to tell because of the fog but it is pretty steep the further you go up. And there is nobody anywhere near ricochet range. Plus people often misunderstand ricochets, as the bullet loses most of its velocity upon impact. Demolition ranch did a good video on that. I had always thought ricochets were much worse than they are.
And yes, I OP, watch gun channels.
Demo ranch, forgotten weps, Hickok45, iraqwarveteran, 22plinkster, JoergSprave if you can consider him a “gun” channel... maybe a few I’m forgetting. It’s the physics of it that facinates me. So while I’ve got little to no hands on experience I’m not completely clueless about firearms in general.

The whole lead toxicity thing I can’t really weigh in on, though I will say that I put my paper targets on a fairly large tree and they don’t seem to penetrate it fully, as there are no exit wounds unless it’s on the very side.
Which I thought wouldn’t be the case but I guess 30-30 isn’t great for penetration, especially since they are round nosed.
Also I don’t shoot my only rifle off all the time, a practiced with it a few times to get the feel, but the ammo is too expensive to be firing off. I probably ought to practice more though, based on some comments here.

Just got back from getting a bunch of PEX tools. Way more than I needed for this but I figure I’ll return what I don’t use.

The access panel is hampered by about 1/4inch of some kind of shitty wooden flooring so I am waiting until my dad gets here with some power tools I don’t have so can take it off without damaging it. Also picked up paint to repaint any scuffs. I’ll keep updating, if I have to I’ll make a before and after thread if this one dies. Bought a new carpet that’ll look 10x better than that old shabby one too, in the same color red as the cabinets and microwave. I think tomorrow night after all is said and done the kitchen will be better off than before I shot it up.

>>1729819
This is turning out to be a good thing.

>>1729865
only really annoying thing is that they were out of red PEX 1/2" so I had to go all blue and I guess.... note which is is which? I donno how a plumber would handle that.

>>1729935
Use a marker to write "red" on one

I’m sad this thread is almost over.

>>1730065
Thread may be almost over but the actual work is just about to begin. Just finished clearing everything’s out of the way so we have some workspace, pops should be arriving within the hour.

>perhaps he’s wondering why you would shoot a water heater before taking it to the junkyard

It’s been a long day and if this thread dies I’ll make a before and after one tomorrow sometime, but basically everything went swell. We made one single 1” cut and other than that the access panel was gently removed. The Brad nails were removed with pliers and then we reassembled with a nail gun.

I’ll post some pics. Maybe make a before and after thread tomorrow when we get the floor really clean and the new carpet over it. Also talked to landlady and owned up to my shit. Keep in mind she’s like 67 and I also cleaned out her cabinets, gave her a much newer heater, and even went ahead and fixed some of the unsafe wiring and installed a new over sink light and fixed the outside light. I’ll also be touching up her entire kitchen paint wise, and the new carpet is hers’. Obviously my dad was helping but he did make me do all of the work that only required one person. He uh, knows how to teach a lesson.

But the entire water heater repair seems to be about $185, I’ll know for sure tomorrow when I go and return 80% of what I bought. But much less than I thought. I have alas not yet shot my old heater to see if it’ll go all the way through, I’ll do that tomorrow. Once pops left and I could take hot shower I did than and then poured myself a stiff drink. So I will be handling no firearms tonight .

(I’m not THAT retarded.)

The amount of mice shit on this was beyond disgusting. This is what was left after I scooped most of it into a trash can. And my dad and I carefull carried it outside as to not drop more pellets on the ground.

Was a really tight fit but we got it.

I keep saying we but my dad purposely stood by and just watched and laughed at me during 90% of this. If it makes anyone feel better.

Than when we were at Lowe’s and I was buying different sized nipples he of course had to have this exchange:
Cute girl: “how has your day gone so far?”
Dad: “oh well you know, this dumbass shot up his water heater, so you know.”

And I’m just red faced. And then we had to go BACK and see the same cute chick who of course recognized us. And was like “so, what did he shoot this time.”

Fucking embarrassing. But I deserve it.

This is kind a bad photo as it’s mostly a before of the floor... you can see we’ve got the panel back on. Took 5 min with a nail gun. The floor is super gross to the point I broke the Swiwfer (sp?) mop after about 5 min of scrubbing. (This was not from us.)

We aren’t quite done, tomorrow we will touch the paint up, get a heavier duty tool to purge the floor and then put down the new carpet.
If you knew the landlady you know she’d be happy because she was already super happy about me fixing the water heater and even offered to reimburse me. Which of course I declined. (She’s like a literal kind old grandma leasing out the house she raised her family in) and she respects respect. We are on good terms, my deposit is fine. Everything worked out, I only spent about $190, and all of this is in large part and thanks to many of you who guided me on the right path. So, genuinely, thank you very much. I have learned quite a bit this week, but all’s well that ends well.

Again I’ll post finalized pics tomorrow if this thread is even still breathing.
This is a before of the floor cleanup. But you can see all the woodwork is properly put back together.

OH and at 7:30am this morning I realized a good way to take at least warm showers (ish) without a water heater. At least at my place.
As here has I guess mini space heaters/fans built into all the bathrooms, which are super nice as it gets cold as fuck, particularly in the mornings when it’s cold. So I figured out I could put a punch of jugs and a garden waters bucket(?) I don’t know the term. But a bunch of water on the top shelf of my mirror/cabinet setup. Heat rises and whatnot. After a few hours the jugs of water are nice and warm. Ready to use.

And I wish I had thought about that 3 days ago but I know I deserved the painfully cold showers.

>>1730639
Thank you for the update and for, um, being you. You seem like a good person. This awful site would be better if there were more like you on it.
I raise a glass to you and to this thread.

Everyone please pour out a little liquor for our fallen water heater homie and this thread.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=edaBh-VNTBQ

>>1729218
People will often use it for hot coco or for boiling food, using hot water gets it up to temperature a little faster. Its also convenient in baking when you need mildly hot water around 120F.

>>1730984
Nobody should use hot water for cooking or drinking.

>>1730993
O man if you think thats bad
never eat at a restaurant ever I have seen some things mainly the machines like icecream machines were the mix had overflowed and accumulated inside over time the machines were swarming in maggots but cedar fair waited till they could not could the ice cream free of the maggots dont even get me started on ice machines

OP here, this thread is dead but I’m going to make a new thread to show updates/before and after. It’ll have a... similar cover imagine. If anyone checking this is interested.

>>1727527
Probably shouldn't put it over the silicone

>>1731222
Way to read not even 10% into the thread before replying, champ.

>>1731230
Lol this
-OP

Also, OP here, how do I archive this? I think I’d like to send a link to this thread to my dad someday if he ever needs a good laugh.

Comment on new thread if you know how or have a link?

>>1729069
Good job, OP. I had lost faith in being a potential landlord, but rock on.
As for the discharge, my grandpa once said he was thrilled when his kids came home and said they had their first fender bender.
That meant they got their heads out of their ass and wised up -- a lot better than them never waking up and wrapping the car around a tree.

Good job op, I'm sure you'll be immortalized in the annual /diy/ gore threads.

>>1731245
Your grandpa sounds like a wise man.