/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2744239
Retarded.

You’re so much better off going 18V. Unless you never want to cut a 2x4.

I know a lot of people want Milwaukee Fuel without paying M18 Fuel prices, but Ryobi 18V will sell you a full size 7-1/4” circular saw and a leaf blower. Run that 12V multitool through anything hard and the battery will get nice and toasty.

Also the compact 18V tools are about as small as the 12V tools as long as you don’t run a big 8.0 battery on it. The 12V lineups were introduced as a supplemental lineup for people who already have 18V tools but want a couple specialty compact tools with less power for limited jobs. They’re not meant for people who really want to be on Team Red but don’t want to spend $200 on a drill.

>>2710691
If you’re going to buy 12V, M12 is the only lineup worth a damn. Every other 12V lineup has like <10 tools.

But don’t get the 12V as a main lineup, they have some balls compared to old tools but they’re meant to be specialized compact tools for certain jobs, like a sparky or HVAC guy who wants a light impact driver for pulling screws off panels, but the 18V impact is in the van for when he needs to sink anchors and stuff. All of the 18V/20V tools are like twice as powerful as the 12V, and you think the 12V drill is doing ok in aluminum or the hackzall, but if you use the 18/20V right after it, you will see a huge difference.

Also for tools that are sold in 12V and 18V, especially if there’s a subcompact 18V version of the tool, stick a 2.0Ah battery on the thing and it’s not any larger than the 12V. The brushless 18V tools are getting so small.

Pic related is a 12V brushed impact driver in the middle, and then a babby subcompact 18V impact driver with a smaller body that has a good chunk more power, and the 3/8” stubby impact wrench right there is good for like 250ft-lbs.

>>2704440
You didn’t read “subcompact”… it’s an important word in that sentence. Pic related, 12V compared to subcompact 18V. It’s nice to be able to use the same battery across all the tools. It’s not worth getting on a 12V platform for a drill and impact if you’re already bought into an 18V platform that offers compact tool.

>>2704475
Those cheap Ryobi 5-1/2” saws are nothing compared to modern brushless 7-1/4” saws with a 4.0+ battery. The better cordless circ saws, the last generation or two, they’re pretty much a replacement for corded saws assuming you’re not ripping tons and tons of plywood with one battery.

>>2641740
Milwaukee just dropped new “compact” drills and an impact driver that are like the Atomic. They’re a nice replacement for 12V IMO because the bodies are the same size and if you can get something like those DeWalt Powerstack packs or even a 2.0 battery, they’re the same damn size as a 12V with a 4.0Ah pack and pretty close to the same power in the battery. Plus they have like the power of a full sized 18V brushed tool.

The little 18V impact driver in the pic ended up being way better than expected. It gets all of its power from a high speed motor, so it will put out good torque when you’re on the trigger, but it can handle finesse jobs way better than the full size 2000in-lb 18V drivers. Even at low speed, those high power impact drivers will wreck small fasteners because the hammer and anvil and spring are just too large.